FabSwingers.com forum: Looking for exceptional males only

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Luck of the draw, partner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still a choice though isn't it ?

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By *he devil wears pradaWoman
over a year ago

gosport ish

It's called preferences op

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

Don't see this on any mens profiles "exceptional women only" and how do you know if your exceptional....one persons trash is anothers treasure and all that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Don't see this on any mens profiles "exceptional women only" and how do you know if your exceptional....one persons trash is anothers treasure and all that."

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

Simple really - if that's the case then the exceptional male needs to decide if he's so tired of wanking that he'd meet someone who is the polar opposite of what he finds attractive just to dip his wick! Some will - some won't!

I prefer to meet the ones who won't! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

Grandiose Delusions can manifest itself often in places like this in certain individuals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all supply and demand. Fab is for the most part a simple 'sex site'. Yes, yes there is a social and connection element for many but the highly sexual nature of it results in large supply of guys relative to couples and especially single females.

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Hypothetically speaking, if there was a massive guy shortage on here then the 'purchasers' would not be able to be so choosey. Or if they were they would not get many, if any, meets. This is because the small number of guys would be meeting the higher calibre couples and single fems.

I'm going to get 'blasted' on here for saying it but there are many fems in couples and single fems on here that would not get anywhere near the same attention on a conventional dating site as they do on here.

The continual validation via 'oh you're beautiful' comments in chat rooms and numerous emails every day must be quite addictive and can lead to the 'Princess syndrome' we have all seen on here. I totally get it, after all guys will frequently say anything to get a shag and hey, there aren't any dates or cinema visits to endure in the process.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I'm exceptional - every time I've messaged a profile that states it I've had no response!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all supply and demand. Fab is for the most part a simple 'sex site'. Yes, yes there is a social and connection element for many but the highly sexual nature of it results in large supply of guys relative to couples and especially single females.

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

You are so right on your last point about the 'Princess syndrome'. Stood at the bar in Chams a while back I overheard the lady of a couple talking to her fella about how they could get anyone in there that night since they were a couple. I'm not joking when I say she really was [being polite] a beast! Her fella looked average yet she insisted it would be herself that pulled and he should thank her for their luck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have this on my profile, purely because I have a very good man at home, anyone I meet has to at least be his equal, it may sound aweful to some, but I'll happily wait months for someone that matches my criteria, and vice versa, quality over quantity every time. Just because it's a sex site doesn't mean standards have to be lost.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."
succinctly put!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It puts me off to read terminology like that. Apart from anything else "exceptional" is so subjective. By all means describe what you're looking for, but I think "exceptional" indicates someone who thinks they're a cut above. I think I'm a cut above plenty of people, I'm not going to make myself look like a dick putting it on my profile though.

The men I've met who I consider to be exceptional wouldn't describe themselves that way - if my profile stated that, I'd never have met them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I avoid such profiles.

Not because I don't consider myself exceptional. More to do with there's a chance there not exceptional

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have this on my profile, purely because I have a very good man at home, anyone I meet has to at least be his equal, it may sound aweful to some, but I'll happily wait months for someone that matches my criteria, and vice versa, quality over quantity every time. Just because it's a sex site doesn't mean standards have to be lost."
I think you've missed my original point. My original post was highlighting that there are some who believe they're better/cleaner/more attractive than most when clearly they're not! You REALLY don't fall into that category!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take it by you putting that on your profile that you have only "exceptional males" contacting you then?

If thats not the case then its pointless having it on your profile surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to browse the Verifications and see if they really do seek the exceptional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to browse the Verifications and see if they really do seek the exceptional

That's what I mean about subjective - I read so many profiles where they talk about how picky they are and are happy to wait for quality, and the people they've met aren't what I'd be looking for at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to browse the Verifications and see if they really do seek the exceptional

I'll 2nd that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course, no one is saying there can't or should not be 'standards'. However, the OP was observing that quite often those seeking the exceptional are perhaps not so themselves.

My point was that the market forces of fab, in terms of single guy numbers relative to couples are market forces that apply to fab alone. It's a niche sub culture of seemingly uncomplicated sexual gratification.

Your comments re waiting for the right meet also highlight the evolutionary biological differences in attitudes to sex held by males and females.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Phew that's ok then as I am unique

and so is Pooch

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I tend to browse the Verifications and see if they really do seek the exceptional

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Of course, no one is saying there can't or should not be 'standards'. However, the OP was observing that quite often those seeking the exceptional are perhaps not so themselves.

Your comments re waiting for the right meet also highlight the evolutionary biological differences in attitudes to sex held by males and females."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I'm anymore exceptional than anyone else?

But some people who know me would probably disagree and think I am and some no doubt would say I'm not?

But one thing I am certain of is the fact that if a person has a Grandiose self appreciating profile they would never get the opportunity to find out if I am the "exceptional male" they are looking for or not ?

Again each to their own and its only my personal opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

Very well articulated i must say. I am holding out for the golden fleece, or equivalent without going down the path of sticking it anywhere even if i was allowed to. ( This is because i'm not 6ft, i wont shave my chest and i don't have a BBC ).

This site allows a whole range of people to meet other people who they otherwise may not have met or if they did, would not know they shared similar wants, needs or desires. However despite the many men there are on this site i will continue my hunt for the perfect $#@!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take exception to males who think they are exceptional, its one more filter as far as I'm concerned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

Isn't it your/my/there prerogative to be particular ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do have to confess to raising a wry smile when the overvaluing back fires.

Seen it a few times when the 'meet today goes up' with the usual tag comments of 'six-pack', ten inches, endless stamina and such like are required.

Later on the status update of 'bloody no shows' or 'timewaster' are posted in the obvious throes of disappointment because the 'perfect' guy either vanished or just didn't show at all.

Chances are the very high calibre, young(er) guys on here are actually attached in some way shape or form and are 'chancers' on here looking for a bit or titillation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course, no one is saying there can't or should not be 'standards'. However, the OP was observing that quite often those seeking the exceptional are perhaps not so themselves.

Your comments re waiting for the right meet also highlight the evolutionary biological differences in attitudes to sex held by males and females."

I hadn't seen it like that, may change it enlighten of how it seems to be veiwed by others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why change it? As a 'single fem' you have all the power on here and can set your own agenda entirely without fear of restricting your options. You're also not bothered about meeting every week either.

Not having to be concerned about how others _iew your profile narrative is the essence of female privilege on here. Best enjoy it.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Yeah people say they are fussy...but really aren't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course, no one is saying there can't or should not be 'standards'. However, the OP was observing that quite often those seeking the exceptional are perhaps not so themselves.

Your comments re waiting for the right meet also highlight the evolutionary biological differences in attitudes to sex held by males and females.

I hadn't seen it like that, may change it enlighten of how it seems to be veiwed by others."

As an additional observation, as far as single fem profiles go your's is specific and yet polite - not an easy balance to get right!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

Just becasue someone isn't stereotypically beautiful doesn't mean that they have to let anyone that wants to put their penis in their vagina.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think that's what the OP was getting at to be honest.

He was coming from a _iewpoint of observation rather than entitlement.

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By *dge of HeavenMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

"Yeah people say they are fussy...but really aren't "

I do try to be ...

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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Of course, no one is saying there can't or should not be 'standards'. However, the OP was observing that quite often those seeking the exceptional are perhaps not so themselves."

To him maybe. To others they may be amazing.

Just ignore the profile that you don't think you'll fulfil and move on to those who you might.

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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago

Retirement Village

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

Each to their own really. Im happy with not being exceptional and just average joe. At least when someone meets they dont expect an adonis

No point questioning OP, accept someones preferences and if you dont think you're that exceptional person they are after don't bother trying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think that's what the OP was getting at to be honest.

He was coming from a _iewpoint of observation rather than entitlement."

Oh I understand. What he was actually *observing* was that some women he thinks are ugly want to bang fit blokes and he thinks they don't deserve it. Amirite?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've got the best looking silhouette I've ever seen OP. Phwoar

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By *entle giraffeMan
over a year ago

Minehead

"I don't think that's what the OP was getting at to be honest.

He was coming from a _iewpoint of observation rather than entitlement.

Oh I understand. What he was actually *observing* was that some women he thinks are ugly want to bang fit blokes and he thinks they don't deserve it. Amirite?"

Always

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think that's what the OP was getting at to be honest.

He was coming from a _iewpoint of observation rather than entitlement.

Oh I understand. What he was actually *observing* was that some women he thinks are ugly want to bang fit blokes and he thinks they don't deserve it. Amirite?"

Possibly yes, but that is not my _iew.

There is no 'deserve' about it. Fab economics make it entirely possible due to the supply of guys in numbers terms.

As I stated earlier, the women on here, be they part of a couple of single, are part of a sexualised niche culture that empowers them greatly.

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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago

Retirement Village

"You've got the best looking silhouette I've ever seen OP. Phwoar

He does have public pics, have a gander

You have a lovely bottom btw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think that's what the OP was getting at to be honest.

He was coming from a _iewpoint of observation rather than entitlement.

Oh I understand. What he was actually *observing* was that some women he thinks are ugly want to bang fit blokes and he thinks they don't deserve it. Amirite?

Possibly yes, but that is not my _iew.

There is no 'deserve' about it. Fab economics make it entirely possible due to the supply of guys in numbers terms.

As I stated earlier, the women on here, be they part of a couple of single, are part of a sexualised niche culture that empowers them greatly.

And when they don't conform to what the blokes want, the blokes write bitchy forum posts about them. Hey, it's entitled patriarchy in action!

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Anyone can search for whatever they like.

Just because the people in question aren't supermodels doesn't mean they can't wait to find a George Clooney look-alike.

It's their choice in what they are looking for.

I would agree the phrase 'exceptional' can give rise to its own issues, in terms of the impression it gives, and also the type of people who will reply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"As I stated earlier, the women on here, be they part of a couple of single, are part of a sexualised niche culture that empowers them greatly."

And who's fault is that? I don't want to be part of a sexualised niche. I'm happy to be treated the same way as everyone else, and have meets with men who believe I am human, and not some unpaid prostitute who is expected to have sex.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power."

Scuse my language, but that's bollocks. If that was the case no man I messaged would turn me down. My opinion would be law on here. Neither are the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody's fault. And does it need to be anyone's fault?

It's just the sexual market place in operation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I take exception to males who think they are exceptional, its one more filter as far as I'm concerned

Just this. If someone believe they're exceptional then chances are that they'll be a total arse. We much prefer the more 'normal', real type of person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

Took the words right out of my mouth..buyers market really

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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago

Retirement Village

"As I stated earlier, the women on here, be they part of a couple of single, are part of a sexualised niche culture that empowers them greatly.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

"Why change it? As a 'single fem' you have all the power on here and can set your own agenda entirely without fear of restricting your options. You're also not bothered about meeting every week either.

Not having to be concerned about how others _iew your profile narrative is the essence of female privilege on here. Best enjoy it. "

I must have missed the memo that gave the ladies the power,..

Everyone on here has the same 'power(s can have their own agenda and reasons .. Guys who know their self worth exercise that in the same way as couples and single ladies.. It's the guys who are desperate anddon't that can make it appear ladies have all the power by jumping through hoops and hoping the lady might give them the 'privilege' of a meet..

I'm happy as a bloke to wait until a lady who ticks my boxes comes along

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to browse the Verifications and see if they really do seek the exceptional

my point too! "

Was it? I read your point as being that ugly people shouldn't be asking for exceptional, only good looking ones. My point is exceptional is so subjective it's meaningless.

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

They are not your type so move on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power."

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

Some are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

Scuse my language, but that's bollocks. If that was the case no man I messaged would turn me down. My opinion would be law on here. Neither are the case."

OK, perhaps not 'all' the power - I was talking in absolutes there which is not helpful.

However, you have significantly more 'purchasing' power than the men.

For example, you put up a 'meet today' along the lines of need cock now come and bang me and see how many messages you get.

If a guy puts a similar meet today up I would suggest the responses to your post would be tenfold his.

Good? Bad? Neither, just how it is.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine."

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power."

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

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By *nfamyMan
over a year ago

Goole

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

They've have the goods, they make the rules.

Infamy xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine."

It's not their problem, far from it, it's in male nature for the most part - can't fight tens of thousands of years of evolutionary biology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

Scuse my language, but that's bollocks. If that was the case no man I messaged would turn me down. My opinion would be law on here. Neither are the case."

Yes I agree entirely with everything you have said od She who has to be obeyed.

I've run you a bath surrounded by candles and a glass of your favourite tipple awaits you on the side.

Anything else I can do for you my Lady?

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine.

It's not their problem, far from it, it's in male nature for the most part - can't fight tens of thousands of years of evolutionary biology."

Yes, poor pathetic men can't control their penises and women are just taking advantage of that fact.

Jesus fuck. You couldn't make this shit up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex."

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

Scuse my language, but that's bollocks. If that was the case no man I messaged would turn me down. My opinion would be law on here. Neither are the case.

Yes I agree entirely with everything you have said od She who has to be obeyed.

I've run you a bath surrounded by candles and a glass of your favourite tipple awaits you on the side.

Anything else I can do for you my Lady?

About bloody time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine.

It's not their problem, far from it, it's in male nature for the most part - can't fight tens of thousands of years of evolutionary biology."

If it's not a problem then why the complaints?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol."

So true.

Plenty of people here are looking for relationships. They'll claim they arent like fools and yet you'll find hundreds of threads through the search function of people asking "can you have a relationship on fabs".

I have noticed that I have..."characteristics" which mean my inbox is probably more active than most. Its amusing how many people want to have their cake and then eat it and then call YOU terrible for not allowing it.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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By *rientaldazMan
over a year ago

NorthWest

My mum says im handsome

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all."

There's a difference between saying a site is empowering, and saying women have ALL the power. The former is true, the latter is not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

People only have the power others give them. If desperate men are having sex with people they don't like, that's their fucking problem not mine.

It's not their problem, far from it, it's in male nature for the most part - can't fight tens of thousands of years of evolutionary biology.

Yes, poor pathetic men can't control their penises and women are just taking advantage of that fact.

Jesus fuck. You couldn't make this shit up.

Men can control their penises but probably _iew the sex transaction somewhat differently for reasons of biology.

Women can take advantage of who they want and when they want. Their choices and more power to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all.

There's a difference between saying a site is empowering, and saying women have ALL the power. The former is true, the latter is not."

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop."

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex."

LOL all your politics is misappropriated nonsense from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed. Please dont pass it off as anything resembling legitimate social science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude."

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"My mum says im handsome"

Does she fab your pics?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop."

There's a saying a lot of men on here use a lot:

'Those men ruin it for the rest of us'.

And the majority of women say 'no, they don't. Those men are the reason the good ones stand out'.

Then you're saying you choose to behave pompously because of some bad women. You're right, it is a loop, but only for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude."

You dont have to. Wont make it go away. But do realize that its remarkably common. Even in the ones who claim they dont or tell you what you want to hear. Power ALWAYS corrupts.

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners.

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over a year ago

"So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

There's a saying a lot of men on here use a lot:

'Those men ruin it for the rest of us'.

And the majority of women say 'no, they don't. Those men are the reason the good ones stand out'.

Then you're saying you choose to behave pompously because of some bad women. You're right, it is a loop, but only for you."

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude.

You dont have to. Wont make it go away. But do realize that its remarkably common. Even in the ones who claim they dont or tell you what you want to hear. Power ALWAYS corrupts.

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners."

Nope. It's us with the vaginas who hold the power. Sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all."

As posts like the opening one here prove, the place is still full of men who think they are entitled to have whatever they want, and that women who dare to ask for that *they* want are just begging to be slagged off or ridiculed.

If this place was somewhere that women held all the power, I wouldn't get unkind and nasty messages from blokes when I turn them down. I wouldn't be told I'm ugly on a regular basis, and that they wouldn't fuck me anyway. I wouldn't be asked if I'm a man or a woman because I don't have my tits out on my profile. And when I had a picture of me with short hair I wouldn't have got messages that told me that no real man would ever consider fucking someone who was so unfeminine.

Men still hold the majority of the power on swinging sites. That's why the primary fantasy is one of bisexual women fucking for the husbands pleasure, or possible a man fucking his wife (as long as there's a bit of cardboard between their dicks if they try DP in case they touch). Bisexual men are considered lepers by many - they somehow threaten the status of the heterosexual man as top dog. Women who who have opinions are told that they should, in fact, not have opinions.

And that's before we got onto the fact that environments like swinging clubs are set up men's pleasure. The premium nights are for couples and single women - lesbians ahoy! And if they let single men in then they're often restricted heavily and vetted beforehand. Can't have the women fucking too many single men now, can we? Even worse - imagine if the single women decided to only fuck the single men instead of the couples! Who would he watch then with his wife?

And I've written before about how single men being charged more money makes it 'reassuringly expensive' and then encourages a sense of entitlement in person. They've paid for the experience so they're damn well going to get it.

And then there's the attitudes on the forums. Single women aren't *real* swingers, they're just people who are shagging around. You're only a *real* swinger if you're in a heterosexual relationship and you're sharing your wife with others.

And on that point - why do wives never share husbands? Why is the wife always treated as the property? Why is it always the wife who is shared with other men? Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?

You see, if you look a little closer then you'll see horrid gender stereotypes all over the place. All these stereotypes do is reinforce that it is, indeed, men who have the power.

You do not get sexual power just because you are a minority on a swingers site and can turn a few blokes down. It's far more complicated than that. In fact one could argue that if women had all the power here then there would be *far* more women here. I would suggest that the numbers would be roughly equal. However swinging doesn't exist in a bubble, and outside social oppression still comes into play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

There's a saying a lot of men on here use a lot:

'Those men ruin it for the rest of us'.

And the majority of women say 'no, they don't. Those men are the reason the good ones stand out'.

Then you're saying you choose to behave pompously because of some bad women. You're right, it is a loop, but only for you."

They're not bad. Being shallow doesnt make you a bad person. Only human. BUT due to the very nature of swinging, it does mean that physical/sexual organs and attributes will take precedence. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. We all know its the dudes with the height, good looks, muscles and big dicks who will gladly tell you that there is PLENTY of interest to be had. There is a reason why they tell men who struggle to stand out to "go to socials"...because you'll need to show a great/outgoing personality to not get lost in the pack.

I think its fascinating actually. Life gives and takes away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude.

You dont have to. Wont make it go away. But do realize that its remarkably common. Even in the ones who claim they dont or tell you what you want to hear. Power ALWAYS corrupts.

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners."

So who has the power and is being corrupted by it? I have the power and am corrupting men by turning them into pompous arse holes? Or my husband has the power and is corrupting me into being up my own arse and therefore turning otherwise charming men into cunts?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

The problem with threads like this, is that a few vocal unrepresentative people pop up, with oddball comments.

Then ensues comments about 'men' being like this, 'couples' being like that, 'females' being such-and-such.

OK there are some people who fall into certain stereotypes.

But, these people don't speak for the rest of that group and certainly shouldn't define how the rest of us deal with each other.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners."

Make your mind up.

I must admit I seem to lack this all encompassing power some people think I have. Must find a male to come and rescue me.

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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago

Retirement Village

"I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners.

Make your mind up.

I must admit I seem to lack this all encompassing power some people think I have. Must find a male to come and rescue me. "

On my way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners."

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude.

You dont have to. Wont make it go away. But do realize that its remarkably common. Even in the ones who claim they dont or tell you what you want to hear. Power ALWAYS corrupts.

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners.

Nope. It's us with the vaginas who hold the power. Sorry "

No.

Interrupted85 is actually very right and I was mistaken. Just because you've been shagged by a few dudes doesnt mean much. Here is where our opinions ddiverge though, I think those very gender stereotypes exist because men will always be men. Its amusing how often people here, women especially, claim that they're all about fukking as much as they can and then, always seem to end up with only 2-4 sexual partners that they see regularly.

Women will simply never see sex the same way men do. Never. Its the very reason why, as a man, I can cum much, much more easily than a woman. Its because my criteria for sexual satisfaction is much less complex. Women try to deny this really at their own expense.

I believe that there are ALOT more single people who will take a single guy who cant fuck them amazingly than 10 guys who can fuck you only moderately well. But this opinion makes me a massive misogynist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its the very reason why, as a man, I can cum much, much more easily than a woman. Its because my criteria for sexual satisfaction is much less complex. Women try to deny this really at their own expense. "

Mate, speak for yourself. It takes me less than twenty seconds to get myself off.

I don't think many blokes would brag about that though.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post."

Sorry, but that long post has so many negative stereotypes and mis-representations in it, I can't copy and paste and reply to each one.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post.

Sorry, but that long post has so many negative stereotypes and mis-representations in it, I can't copy and paste and reply to each one.

MrB"

Please do. My heart aches to hear your disagreement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners.

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post."

Yes because, interestingly enough, a lot of feminist theory actually makes a lot of sense. Its only that the Steinem wing of feminism pretty much bastardized the movement and gave us the modern clusterfuck that is the third wave.

It cannot really be denied that deeply misogynist attitudes are commonplace in most men. Madonna/whore complexes, sexual shaming, the fine line between dominance and abuse, the issues with consent...problem is it never really expanded much of the insight beyond simply claiming that all male sexual attitudes are damaging.

But they're not entirely wrong either.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I must be an exceptional female, as I have a very male attitude towards sex. I'm happy with quantity (hence my visiting swinger clubs. the more the merrier!), happy to just shag n go, happy not to hang around afterwards.

Maybe I should add 'exceptional' to my profile. See if I can rile up a few more people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners.

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post.

But they're not entirely wrong either. "

Psst. I'll let you into a little secret. I'm not a third wave feminist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all.

You see, if you look a little closer then you'll see horrid gender stereotypes all over the place. All these stereotypes do is reinforce that it is, indeed, men who have the power.

True... Also a large majority of women are coerced into swinging by their male partners to please them and to "keep their man happy" when in reality the women would much prefer not to share their patner or be shared by other men for their partners amusement and enjoyment.

Sad but true and its naive to think that this doesn't happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I must be an exceptional female, as I have a very male attitude towards sex. I'm happy with quantity (hence my visiting swinger clubs. the more the merrier!), happy to just shag n go, happy not to hang around afterwards.

Maybe I should add 'exceptional' to my profile. See if I can rile up a few more people.

*le sigh*

I always want to message you after you post things in the forums, but you have blocked everyone of my sex.

Perhaps the block feature means that the women on here really do hold all the power.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's called preferences op "

It's called chancing your luck.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Maybe I should add 'exceptional' to my profile. See if I can rile up a few more people.

*le sigh*

I always want to message you after you post things in the forums, but you have blocked everyone of my sex.

Perhaps the block feature means that the women on here really do hold all the power.

And I'm outside your age range. We really do have the power! The power...to...filter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you whats fascinating. They claim that women have all the power in swinging. I disagree. I think its actually in the hands of the husbands/boyfriends/partners.

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post.

But they're not entirely wrong either.

Psst. I'll let you into a little secret. I'm not a third wave feminist."

Yeeeeah...no feminist I meet is an actual feminist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

You shouldn't get blasted mate because you're absolutely right. This is where the thread should end, no need for anymore debate.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

But they're not entirely wrong either.

Psst. I'll let you into a little secret. I'm not a third wave feminist.

Yeeeeah...no feminist I meet is an actual feminist

Mostly because it's a hugely wide label to try to apply to one person...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all.

You see, if you look a little closer then you'll see horrid gender stereotypes all over the place. All these stereotypes do is reinforce that it is, indeed, men who have the power.

Sad but true and its naive to think that this doesn't happen."

Thank you.

EVERYTIME I meet a cuck couple, the male is WAAAY more into it than the woman is.

Maybe I am wrong, but most of the couples I met were in this category and most of the single women I met where masquerading the fact that they were in need of relationships. I found that the true nymphomaniacs were always 1. older (and possibly divorced with children) and 2. the exception rather than the rule.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

You know what's hilarious? After saying that I learned all my lessons from gender studies courses and Buzzfeed, you just agreed with what I said while I was writing my long post.

Sorry, but that long post has so many negative stereotypes and mis-representations in it, I can't copy and paste and reply to each one.

MrB

Please do. My heart aches to hear your disagreement."

Thanks for the patronizing request, I'll answer anyway:

" the place is still full of men who think they are entitled" - maybe lots, but not full.

"the primary fantasy is one of bisexual women fucking for the husbands pleasure" - can't you believe they do it for their own pleasure? Odd statement from a bi female.

"Women who who have opinions are told that they should, in fact, not have opinions." - never heard anyone say that in a club or in a forum.

"The premium nights are for couples and single women - lesbians ahoy" - why premium? nights with single guys are just as busy and popular. Lesbians comment is meaningless.

"Can't have the women fucking too many single men now, can we? " except on greedy girl nights and mixed night and GB nights, all of which are equally popular.

"Single women aren't *real* swingers, they're just people who are shagging around. You're only a *real* swinger if you're in a heterosexual relationship and you're sharing your wife with others." - some people make this comment but is about singles in general, not single females.

"Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?" - they don't.

Your post is the most demeaning towards women I have seen. You have twisted anything and everything to portray a situation that does not on whole exist.

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By *ischief ManagedCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Couldn't have put it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all.

You see, if you look a little closer then you'll see horrid gender stereotypes all over the place. All these stereotypes do is reinforce that it is, indeed, men who have the power.

Sad but true and its naive to think that this doesn't happen.

Thank you.

EVERYTIME I meet a cuck couple, the male is WAAAY more into it than the woman is.

No need to thank me but thanks anyway

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Sad but true and its naive to think that this doesn't happen."

A large majority of women are coerced??????

This is nonsense.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

You need to think about things from the couples perspective. For many this is about living out fantasies and so what is the point in compromising? Not everyone considers building up a conquest sheet of quantity over quality. From our point of _iew we would rather not bother than compromise for what we want in any way whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?" - they don't.

Erm...what??

Here's is the problem a lot of women have on here...you mistake sex for an understanding of the male mind. If you think that statement doesnt apply to almost every man out here then you know nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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By *edzyWoman
over a year ago

Aberdeen

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

Agreed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Indeed!

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?" - they don't.

Erm...what??

It was the male have replying. You might want to fuck other mens 'property' - I don't even accept the notion in the first place, and what you believe applies to 'almost every man' is just your opinion. Most people we have met, enjoy playing together, seeing everyone having fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

love this thread, on the flip side Andrew has a singles profile which he uses now and again but he has turned lots of women and couples away as if he does not want to spend a few hours of his time massaging a lady and giving her multiple orgasms with his yoni massage and oral skills he wont. on here his single profile is sensual yoni massager,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So basically guys UP YOUR GAME

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"love this thread, on the flip side Andrew has a singles profile which he uses now and again but he has turned lots of women and couples away as if he does not want to spend a few hours of his time massaging a lady and giving her multiple orgasms with his yoni massage and oral skills he wont. on here his single profile is sensual yoni massager, "

Are you for real ? Absolutely amazing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Life isn't fair at times and neither is fab

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It's words on a profile, do with them as you please.

I for one don't care if they put it.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I find this thread interesting as it reveals a fair few assumptions which on closer examination do not hold true.

1. Not all men will say anything to get a shag.

2. Not all women are princesses.

3. Some men think they are entitled to sex, most do not think or even say that.

4. Some women think they are entitled to be choosier on the site, in the scene than they would be in real life. That is about perceived supply and demand as somebody aptly pointed out earlier.

5. The "exceptional" male (and arguably the "exceptional female" - I would love to see that being sought on a male profile!) is very subjective and means different things to different people.

Different people value different things - for me exceptional (and I would not specify this term in my profile) would mean exceptionally intelligent and witty. Just an example!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I use the term 'exceptional' on my profile but it's about what I personally think is exceptional. It isn't about looking for the elite, the top dog, those better than others, the biggest or the best. It's something that I personally feel is exceptional about a person. That could be their humour or their personality etc. What I see as exceptional somebody else may not. Each to their own, but this is my way of expressing it.

We look for different things in people and can word our profiles how we choose in order to find what we're looking for. I've seen what I consider to be worse things on profiles than the word exceptional.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?" - they don't.

Erm...what??

Its not my opinion. Remember

1. You're part of a very small niche, we all are, swingers are not common

2. The vats majority of users on this single site are single men/those playing away

Possession is a very important part of the male ego. Its what most relationships and exclusivity are built on. Mutual sexual exclusivity. As swingers, you go against that...but, even then, you'll tend to find that for many men watching their partners engage in sex is more of a turn-on/fetish than it is about concepts of egalitarian "enjoyment".

What blows my mind is when people take the small swinging community and try and apply it to most men, even on here. Most men really cannot stand to see their partners with someone else and most people do not like the idea of partner swapping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A stated, a lot of women here think they gain some kind of magical respect or appreciation when they open their legs. You would think that people still have the mentality of 17 year olds here sometimes.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?" - they don't.

Erm...what??

Its not my opinion. Remember

1. You're part of a very small niche, we all are, swingers are not common

2. The vats majority of users on this single site are single men/those playing away

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Why to men always want to fuck another mans property?" - they don't.

Erm...what??

Its not my opinion. Remember

1. You're part of a very small niche, we all are, swingers are not common

2. The vats majority of users on this single site are single men/those playing away

Two points.

1. We are talking about the situation in swinging, not in general.

2. The possesion thing isn't a male thing. Jealousy is a big issue for people entering swinging, it is dedinately not a male preserve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop."

You mean you get a big ego because fit women want to fuck you and say you're exceptional?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A stated, a lot of women here think they gain some kind of magical respect or appreciation when they open their legs. You would think that people still have the mentality of 17 year olds here sometimes. "

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you? "

Nope.

Why should I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you?

Nope.

Why should I?"

Why shouldn't you?

What are your thoughts about women you have sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you?

Nope.

Why should I?"

You meet the wrong women then.

Or actually, no, maybe you meet the ones who are right for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you?

Nope.

Why should I?

Why shouldn't you?

What are your thoughts about women you have sex?"

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you?

Nope.

Why should I?

You meet the wrong women then.

Or actually, no, maybe you meet the ones who are right for you."

Keep fighting the good fight there

I'm sure the maidens will reward you with sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

Whether you get blasted or not, there's definitely got to be some truth in this. Respect to you for the honesty!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't respect the woman who open their legs for you?

Nope.

Why should I?

You meet the wrong women then.

Or actually, no, maybe you meet the ones who are right for you.

Keep fighting the good fight there

I'm sure the maidens will reward you with sex

Thanks for the advice. It's very much appreciated.

Anything else you could add to help?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think I'm anymore exceptional than anyone else?

But some people who know me would probably disagree and think I am and some no doubt would say I'm not?

Again each to their own and its only my personal opinion."

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging. "

Respect should be the default starting position.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

I'm exceptional...

Exceptionally ugly

Exceptionally fat

Exceptionally ill endowed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging.

Respect should be the default starting position."

Once again, if you think respect is the default position among MANY men you're in for a rude awakening. If you haven't experienced it already.

There is no reason why someone having sex should make me respect them. Common courtesy and politeness? Yes. Respect? No.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging.

Respect should be the default starting position.

Once again, if you think respect is the default position among MANY men you're in for a rude awakening. If you haven't experienced it already.

There is no reason why someone having sex should make me respect them. Common courtesy and politeness? Yes. Respect? No. "

You said no one is owed respect. Do you deserve any respect?

I think everyone does, unless their actions change that.

You are unverified in a year, maybe this is a reason?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Patriarchy eh?

Not in here, women have all the power.

I do not think you understand the politics of gender and sex.

Please enlighten me. But I always considered sites like FAb to be very empowering for women in term sof their status and the choices that result from that. I have no problem with that at all.

There's a difference between saying a site is empowering, and saying women have ALL the power. The former is true, the latter is not."

Completely agree - it's what we make of it for ourselves to some degree. As it's often a numbers game it must be empowering for women, (which isn't a bad thing) but the fact that women call the shots to more of an extent than in perhaps other areas of life is a simple case of having a lot of choice, so not surprising when they pick the best of the bunch in their own eyes. I'm very lucky being part of a couple where my other half is gorgeous and gets a lot of male and female attention, so people get to know me as well when we visit a club, whereas if I was on here as a single I imagine i'd get a lot less interest on the basis of not being an adonis. I'd suggest the guys get to socials and clubs and let others see the real person, rather than just a photo to give themselves a far better chance of success. Complaining about it (imho) just makes us look even less attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging.

Respect should be the default starting position.

Once again, if you think respect is the default position among MANY men you're in for a rude awakening. If you haven't experienced it already.

There is no reason why someone having sex should make me respect them. Common courtesy and politeness? Yes. Respect? No.

You said no one is owed respect. Do you deserve any respect?

I think everyone does, unless their actions change that.

You are unverified in a year, maybe this is a reason?"

Not everyone wants or feels the need to be verified to prove they are worthy of being a member of FAB?

Some people find verifications complety pointless.

Again that is a personal preference and choice and should have no bearing on this whether this gentlemans comments are any less valid than someone who has been verified?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have seen it too more and more, because dating is the new swinging lol.

So true.

So many women in the casual sex/swinging world dont realize they empower pompous attitudes like mine due to their own shallowness. An amusing feedback loop.

As a woman there is absolute no fucking way I'm taking responsibility for your pompous attitude."

Yeah, I think you got that attitude all on your own...

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging.

Respect should be the default starting position.

Once again, if you think respect is the default position among MANY men you're in for a rude awakening. If you haven't experienced it already.

There is no reason why someone having sex should make me respect them. Common courtesy and politeness? Yes. Respect? No.

You said no one is owed respect. Do you deserve any respect?

I think everyone does, unless their actions change that.

You are unverified in a year, maybe this is a reason?

Not everyone wants or feels the need to be verified to prove they are worthy of being a member of FAB?

Some people find verifications complety pointless.

Again that is a personal preference and choice and should have no bearing on this whether this gentlemans comments are any less valid than someone who has been verified?"

In some circumstances maybe.

But, if someone unverified in a year decides to give online swinging advice, I personally will take it with a pinch of salt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread sounds like it got juicy but I can't be arsed to read it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on the woman. No one is owed respect. The odd thing is that people on here seem to think that men are suddenly going to stop being men because its swinging.

Respect should be the default starting position.

Once again, if you think respect is the default position among MANY men you're in for a rude awakening. If you haven't experienced it already.

There is no reason why someone having sex should make me respect them. Common courtesy and politeness? Yes. Respect? No.

You said no one is owed respect. Do you deserve any respect?

I think everyone does, unless their actions change that.

You are unverified in a year, maybe this is a reason?"

I notice people like to use verifications as some kind off barometer of success/respectability. Kinda comical.

And, in truth, I found that a lot of people seem to think that the fact they want to have sex with me means that they can act anyway they like. They dont have to respect me...and they dont. I simply choose not to meet them in this case.

I have found a lot of others arent so stringent. Its kinda hard to be when the idea of exceptional seems to be based largely on looks and cock size (we can pretend otherwise...but who are we fooling?). I turn down ALOT of meets as I am pretty strict with what I am willing to do and how far I am willing to go.

But if you want to ignore that for a verification, be my guest.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"This thread sounds like it got juicy but I can't be arsed to read it.

Tbh it turned into a ridiculous, who runs fab, men or women, type thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread sounds like it got juicy but I can't be arsed to read it.

Tbh it turned into a ridiculous, who runs fab, men or women, type thread."

Yeah, that does sound ridiculous - it's clearly me.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I like exceptional males please

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over a year ago

"I like exceptional males please

That counts me out then

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I like exceptional males please

That counts me out then

Says who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I notice people like to use verifications as some kind off barometer of success/respectability. Kinda comical.

But if you want to ignore that for a verification, be my guest."

No problem with being selective, that's what this thread is about.

But you are handing out a lot of advice from a position of being unverified in a long time.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

I'm exceptional at being me so does that count?

as the song goes "nobody does it better,makes me feel sad for the rest"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like exceptional males please

That counts me out then

Says who?

All the profiles who say they're looking for exceptional!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I notice people like to use verifications as some kind off barometer of success/respectability. Kinda comical.

But if you want to ignore that for a verification, be my guest.

No problem with being selective, that's what this thread is about.

But you are handing out a lot of advice from a position of being unverified in a long time."

Advice? More like an observation. You're perfectly entitled not to listen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place.

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

I notice people like to use verifications as some kind off barometer of success/respectability. Kinda comical.

But if you want to ignore that for a verification, be my guest.

No problem with being selective, that's what this thread is about.

But you are handing out a lot of advice from a position of being unverified in a long time.

Advice? More like an observation. You're perfectly entitled not to listen."

Do you even lift bro? hahahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

I know... we need to just stop denying ourselves, Kinky!

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I like exceptional males please

That counts me out then

Says who?

All the profiles who say they're looking for exceptional!"

Mine doesn't say that

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place."

It is found on lots of profiles, doesn't mean that's what women want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like exceptional males please

That counts me out then

Says who?

All the profiles who say they're looking for exceptional!

Mine doesn't say that

Maybe you're the exceptional one then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place."

Oh, come on. Are you now arrogant enough to think that you speak for every single person on Fab!?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place.

Oh, come on. Are you now arrogant enough to think that you speak for every single person on Fab!? "

Nail on the head

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

El oh 'ell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place.

It is found on lots of profiles, doesn't mean that's what women want

So women say one thing and mean another? Last person who said that to me was a misogynist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 'conventional' dating areas there is much more of a balance but then the sex is not up front in the same way it is on here.

Guys, however are not put on a pedestal in the same way."

If guys didn't shag any type of 'purchaser' then you wouldn't have women on the pedestal you think they are.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"It is found on lots of profiles, doesn't mean that's what women want

So women say one thing and mean another? Last person who said that to me was a misogynist

Not sure how on earth you reached that conclusion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no problem with people having preferences, I would encourage it as it stops me wasting time on someone who would never have any interest in me.

What I don't understand is when someone says they only want to meet "exceptional" guys but gives no definition of what exceptional is to them, I mean am I supposed to be a mind reader? Exceptional is a subjective thing, say you only want to meet guys over 6'3" and I know not to bother you. Say "exceptional" and I have no idea. I would tend to presume I'm not exceptional so wouldn't message but in their opinion I might be and everyone then loses out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place."

Is it but so what? We're here for fulfilling fantasies not handing out charity fucks.

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over a year ago

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place.

Is it but so what? We're here for fulfilling fantasies not handing out charity fucks."

ah bollix the sally army lied to me

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I have no problem with people having preferences, I would encourage it as it stops me wasting time on someone who would never have any interest in me.

Exceptional is a very vague concept and worthless on a profile for the reasons you just gave

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

This one's going into extra time.

Can feel it in ma bones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place.

Oh, come on. Are you now arrogant enough to think that you speak for every single person on Fab!? "

This is what I mean. You're essentially asking why I am arrogant enough to see what people generally write on profiles?? This is an NSA sex site, its stands to reason that said site will attract those looking to "fulfill fantasies". For many people these fantasies involve a look, not a personality. Cant remember the last thread which was about how awesome kind and respectful men were. Nope, we have BBW's/BBC/BWC/tattoos/good looks.

What are you saying? A sex site is not driven by the physicality of sex? You cannot be serious

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

what if my real name was Al and I was known for making exceptions would I then be known as exceptionAl?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"This one's going into extra time.

Can feel it in ma bones.

An I can in my handbag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They think it's all over...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen this quite a lot lately. Usually followed by 'I/we are very choosy'. And then you look at their pics.......

So are you saying you are less than exceptional OP?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"This one's going into extra time.

Can feel it in ma bones.

An I can in my handbag

Not convinced by the rest of the field here but I'd give Superfreak a tryout.

See if he lives up to the hype.

Now wouldn't that be amusing?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Exceptional males are ones who don't feel they have to boast about how great they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place.

Is it but so what? We're here for fulfilling fantasies not handing out charity fucks."

What?

Tell that to the woman who dislike the fact that I think the same way you do. This is not pityfucks'r'us, its Fab. The sought after will be the men who stand out. No one out here is trying to fuck a good personality.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Exceptional males are ones who don't feel they have to boast about how great they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9CeC3yrcG4

Just sayin'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Endosaurus

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Nah, admin went to bed already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fecking knew it

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Something vexes thee?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I love it when guys tell us that we're all actually on here because we want a complex relationship and not just sex. It's awesome

Yes, and that we're all desperate to meet a guy just because he's ripped "

Honestly?

Are we really going to pretend "fit", "ripped", "gymfit", "above 5'10-6'", "big cocks", "BBC" isnt to be found on tones of profiles?

I do love when clowns on the forum sit here and try to pass off this delusional reality that Fab is not an incredibly shallow place."

You're right, the people of the forum are generally far different from the general consensus on the rest of the site, which makes a lot of the general forum opinion invalid in a wider context.

But generally speaking - if you think someone is a minger then don't message her and you won't be disappointed when she turns you down for someone hotter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go on then Joe you can have it

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

You ruined it!

I left it open for Lib's magnificent reposte!

*as Cpt. Mainwaring*

Stupid boy.

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