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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I had the idea a week ago to ring the old folks home over the road from me and see if there was anyone that had no familly that would like to join us on Christmas day. I rang them today to ask and they said unless i was a regustered cearer and had insurance them they couldnt let anyone come. So do old folk bot have the right to do as they please anymore. I mean its not like we all owe old folk anything is it. They didnt fight a war for us. Makes my blood boil.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Unless they're nonagenarians, chances are, no, they didn't fight in the War for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What exactly is boiling your piss OP? The fact that they maybe classed as vulnerable adults who need safeguarding and the care home is trying to look after them? Do you seriously think it is appropriate to let you in just because you want to go?

There are plenty of other charities that need help at Xmas time. Maybe chose one of them instead of attacking people who are just doing their job.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

It might be a specialist care home, housing dementia or altimeter patients. Most old folks homes would be secured housing so random people can't just walk in. You probably wouldn't want someone with dementia in your home either - much as it's a kind thought, they would get disorientated quickly causing arguments or in some cases even attack. You'd then be the subject to police enquiry.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'm imagining the OP helping little old ladies across the road whether they need it or not

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

What a kind thought.

What kind of home was it ?

It may be a home for people with social or emotional or mental problems.

The care home can't just 'wheel' them over without considering a lot of things.

These days great care is taken to make sure that the elderly and children are not left in the care of the untrained or unmonitored.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It might be a specialist care home, housing dementia or altimeter patients. Most old folks homes would be secured housing so random people can't just walk in. You probably wouldn't want someone with dementia in your home either - much as it's a kind thought, they would get disorientated quickly causing arguments or in some cases even attack. You'd then be the subject to police enquiry. "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm imagining the OP helping little old ladies across the road whether they need it or not

What about big old ladies ?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I had the idea a week ago to ring the old folks home over the road from me and see if there was anyone that had no familly that would like to join us on Christmas day. I rang them today to ask and they said unless i was a regustered cearer and had insurance them they couldnt let anyone come. So do old folk bot have the right to do as they please anymore. I mean its not like we all owe old folk anything is it. They didnt fight a war for us. Makes my blood boil."

Replace vulnerable elderly person with child in care. Care homes are constantly in the news for the wrong reasons. Do you honestly think itca good idea to let an old person go off with anyone?

There are dozens of organisations crying out for volunteers...check them out!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I see your point about autonomy. My parents are very elderly but luckily with help remain at home. The number of people who assume that age = mental incapacity is staggering. I can't tell you how many times professional people talk to me about parents even though they're present.

However the home will have a duty of care to their residents and also to you they're doing the right thing. If you get the ball rolling now you will be able to invite a resident for Christmas 2017

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I'm imagining the OP helping little old ladies across the road whether they need it or not

What about big old ladies ?"

Don't you start

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What exactly is boiling your piss OP? The fact that they maybe classed as vulnerable adults who need safeguarding and the care home is trying to look after them? Do you seriously think it is appropriate to let you in just because you want to go?

There are plenty of other charities that need help at Xmas time. Maybe chose one of them instead of attacking people who are just doing their job."

Let me in where???? I wanted to know if any of the residents would like to join me and my familly for the day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice thought OP

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just because they are old it dosnt mean they are all venerable. Some of them are very sound and are only there due to disabilities and no familly. So if a grown adult chooses to go out for the day who are they to stop them.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Just because they are old it dosnt mean they are all venerable. Some of them are very sound and are only there due to disabilities and no familly. So if a grown adult chooses to go out for the day who are they to stop them. "

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please. "

Let's assume they are far from vulnerable. They've got all their faculties and are physically active. .........

Hi Mabel, Do you want to share your Christmas day with all the other people here that you know and get on with or some strangers over the road who you have never met and have no idea of their political or religious leanings. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please. "

I think you will find that they can do as they believe.

Sad though it may be, were the owners of the home to act as agents, they would be responsible if anything went wrong.

A nice gesture but I understand why the home will not help.

Perhaps you could offer to help in the kitchen or dinng room instead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please. "

Because there are alot of unscrupulous people out there. Not saying that is your motivation OP but it will be some peoples. Working with vulnerable elderly or children is a mindfield. Rules are put in place to safeguard the people who need it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please.

Let's assume they are far from vulnerable. They've got all their faculties and are physically active. .........

Jesus. Whats wrong with people.

Most of them will be with their own family and some will be left in the home alone. I just thougjt it would be nice to ask if any of them would like to come for dinner. There are far to many selfish self righteous twats in here. Maybe if you wasnt all so self absorbed the world wouldnt be in such a state. Obviously not aimed at everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please.

Let's assume they are far from vulnerable. They've got all their faculties and are physically active. .........

Jesus. Whats wrong with people.

I didn't notice any self-righteous twats in this thread. Just common sense.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Well, for a start they're too old and frail to stop you so it shouldn't be hard

Ha ha ha ha. But seriously why are they not allowed to do as they please.

Let's assume they are far from vulnerable. They've got all their faculties and are physically active. .........

Jesus. Whats wrong with people.

No of course not. Just aimed at the sanctimonious , don't get it, self righteous , self absorbed twats.

Remember...... a pensioner is for life, not just for Christmas.

I hope you get your pensioner O.P. It's a lovely idea.

( I hope they are okay with foul language xx )

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

El oh 'ell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another good intended thread destroyed

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Not all ild people are vulnerable why do you keep saying that.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Maybe you could visit them and spend time chatting. Not sure if that's allowed but an alternative

Good luck

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

It's a nice idea.

Unfortunately the home has no idea who you are. What you do, if you are able to cope with an old persons needs of whom you have no idea about and nor them you.

It comes down to safeguarding that's all.

It's sad that nice thing don't happen anymore.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Another good intended thread destroyed "

How was it destroyed ?

How should it have panned out ?

What should people have said ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Another good intended thread destroyed

How was it destroyed ?

How should it have panned out ?

What should people have said ?"

One question at a time please

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Another good intended thread destroyed

How was it destroyed ?

How should it have panned out ?

What should people have said ?

One question at a time please"

Fair enough.

How was it destroyed ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have loads of folk in home I work without family.they don't have 1 visitor from one end of year til other.very sad

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless they're nonagenarians, chances are, no, they didn't fight in the War for you.

My grandad is in a home and always spends Xmas at my parents for dinner. And to see in his birthday which is Boxing Day... this year he's 96 this year!

So there's still plenty living in homes

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some "

You said most...... now is it most or some ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We have loads of folk in home I work without family.they don't have 1 visitor from one end of year til other.very sad"

And in your experience do you think those people would like the chance to visit someone and have dinner cooked presents given and just a fun afternoon doing what they like.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"We have loads of folk in home I work without family.they don't have 1 visitor from one end of year til other.very sad"

Millions of lonely people in an overpopulated world. Regardless of where they live.

Unneccessary really x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some

You said most...... now is it most or some ?"
i can see your going to be trouble lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

being disabled and alone simply makes then vulnerable - i work in a specialist home for dementia and brain injuries and most have dols in place but some dont and if they wanted to in theory they can go wherever they want - i would have suggested going in to the home as a volunteer but you need to be police checked yourself to do that -

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some

You said most...... now is it most or some ? i can see your going to be trouble lol"

Nooooooooo im a nice old lady.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Unless they're nonagenarians, chances are, no, they didn't fight in the War for you.

My grandad is in a home and always spends Xmas at my parents for dinner. And to see in his birthday which is Boxing Day... this year he's 96 this year!

So there's still plenty living in homes "

Exactly. I would hate to think of my nan all alone over Christmas and would hope there would be some decent people about to try to help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have loads of folk in home I work without family.they don't have 1 visitor from one end of year til other.very sad

And in your experience do you think those people would like the chance to visit someone and have dinner cooked presents given and just a fun afternoon doing what they like."

Lot of ones I mind are bed bound so wouldn't be able go out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some "

Oh dear you are revealing your true colours spectacularly OP. This is why safeguarding policies are in place. To protect the vulnerable (yep that word again) people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have to have an indepth crb check every sux months so thats not a problem. This is just a simple assisted living home. No mental health or anything like that. Obviously id not exoect to be able to take a menatlly ill person into my home nor anyone with and health issuses. But there are plenty that are fine and will be just sat there lonely.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some

Oh dear you are revealing your true colours spectacularly OP. This is why safeguarding policies are in place. To protect the vulnerable (yep that word again) people. "

Amd i can see your just out to argue and get attention.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

"Iv not been on the forums long but in that short time iv come to understand that most of you are infact dickheads. Not all of you just some "

You may have realised in that short time that you can't abuse people if they disagree with something you say.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Might be best to leave it there

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