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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). " Have you got a link to the research? | |||
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"if gravity doesn't exist there is no point hiding 'under' anywhere, surely? " I didn't say it didn't exist. | |||
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"if gravity doesn't exist there is no point hiding 'under' anywhere, surely? " The theory of what gravity is. We know what gravity does to a high degree of accuracy. We just don't know exactly what it is. | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). Google Professor Erik Verlinde from the University of Amsterdam and/or Verlindes Hypothesis of Gravity. Have you got a link to the research? " | |||
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"if gravity doesn't exist there is no point hiding 'under' anywhere, surely? The theory of what gravity is. We know what gravity does to a high degree of accuracy. We just don't know exactly what it is." Don't ask me. It's all double dutch to me Something to do with dark matter filling the gaps that gravity doesn't or something. Anyway, you're trying to suck me into a black hole. I'm going back under the table. | |||
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"if gravity doesn't exist there is no point hiding 'under' anywhere, surely? The theory of what gravity is. We know what gravity does to a high degree of accuracy. We just don't know exactly what it is. Don't ask me. It's all double dutch to me Something to do with dark matter filling the gaps that gravity doesn't or something. Anyway, you're trying to suck me into a black hole. I'm going back under the table." Sorry! I'll take my nerdy arse away! | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong a guy called Newton 1643 to 1727 penned the theory of gravity " Different theories. I could type it out but it's easier if you use google. Thanks ever so | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). " You say "it may be wrong" but it could also be right, you'd make a great journalist...... for The Sun | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). You say "it may be wrong" but it could also be right, you'd make a great journalist...... for The Sun " I'm a Scouser so I wouldn't. I wouldn't even wipe my arse with their rag let alone work for them. | |||
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" Hi guys I think a few of you have misunderstood the O.P's post, He is saying the theory of gravity is flawed and that DARK MATTER may not exist, Which has profound implications in the world of physics, Not that gravity is all of a sudden going to stop lol O.P Do you have a link to the journals this relates to ? Or an article as a starting point ? Thankyou xx" I can't do the link thing but if you search for Prof Erik Linde of Amsterdam that will turn up his hypothesis. I think | |||
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" Hi guys I think a few of you have misunderstood the O.P's post, He is saying the theory of gravity is flawed and that DARK MATTER may not exist, Which has profound implications in the world of physics, Not that gravity is all of a sudden going to stop lol O.P Do you have a link to the journals this relates to ? Or an article as a starting point ? Thankyou xx I can't do the link thing but if you search for Prof Erik Linde of Amsterdam that will turn up his hypothesis. I think " Correction. Prof Erik Verlinde. | |||
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"He got it 99.9% right.. One part doesn't quite stack up, but not bad for the crazy ol bugger.. Any theory is partially flawed, hence why it's a theory.. It's the law of decreasing lies.. Eventually we may know the truth.. " . Or the truth as we know it at the time!. . I can't remember who I was reading at the time but they explained it best that Einstein didn't prove Newton wrong he was dealing with gravity as we know it, while Einstein was dealing with it at light speed (ish).... We might just find something similar going on here | |||
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"He got it 99.9% right.. One part doesn't quite stack up, but not bad for the crazy ol bugger.. Any theory is partially flawed, hence why it's a theory.. It's the law of decreasing lies.. Eventually we may know the truth.. . Or the truth as we know it at the time!. . I can't remember who I was reading at the time but they explained it best that Einstein didn't prove Newton wrong he was dealing with gravity as we know it, while Einstein was dealing with it at light speed (ish).... We might just find something similar going on here" Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics | |||
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"if gravity doesn't exist there is no point hiding 'under' anywhere, surely? The theory of what gravity is. We know what gravity does to a high degree of accuracy. We just don't know exactly what it is." It keeps us grounded lol | |||
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"He got it 99.9% right.. One part doesn't quite stack up, but not bad for the crazy ol bugger.. Any theory is partially flawed, hence why it's a theory.. It's the law of decreasing lies.. Eventually we may know the truth.. . Or the truth as we know it at the time!. . I can't remember who I was reading at the time but they explained it best that Einstein didn't prove Newton wrong he was dealing with gravity as we know it, while Einstein was dealing with it at light speed (ish).... We might just find something similar going on here Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics" . | |||
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"He got it 99.9% right.. One part doesn't quite stack up, but not bad for the crazy ol bugger.. Any theory is partially flawed, hence why it's a theory.. It's the law of decreasing lies.. Eventually we may know the truth.. . Or the truth as we know it at the time!. . I can't remember who I was reading at the time but they explained it best that Einstein didn't prove Newton wrong he was dealing with gravity as we know it, while Einstein was dealing with it at light speed (ish).... We might just find something similar going on here Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. " Make some sense. Dare ya | |||
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"If anyone needs to know about complex legal issues, medical emergencies, particle physics, philosophy or religion, the forum has many experts who are willing to pass on words of wisdom " In fact I know all about all 5, so I'm particularly useful | |||
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"He got it 99.9% right.. One part doesn't quite stack up, but not bad for the crazy ol bugger.. Any theory is partially flawed, hence why it's a theory.. It's the law of decreasing lies.. Eventually we may know the truth.. . Or the truth as we know it at the time!. . I can't remember who I was reading at the time but they explained it best that Einstein didn't prove Newton wrong he was dealing with gravity as we know it, while Einstein was dealing with it at light speed (ish).... We might just find something similar going on here Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya " . Too busy making a brew | |||
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"He got it 99.9% right.. One part doesn't quite stack up, but not bad for the crazy ol bugger.. Any theory is partially flawed, hence why it's a theory.. It's the law of decreasing lies.. Eventually we may know the truth.. . Or the truth as we know it at the time!. . I can't remember who I was reading at the time but they explained it best that Einstein didn't prove Newton wrong he was dealing with gravity as we know it, while Einstein was dealing with it at light speed (ish).... We might just find something similar going on here Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya . Too busy making a brew " *as Captain Picard* "Tea, earl grey, hot. Think you can manage that, ensign?" | |||
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"If anyone needs to know about complex legal issues, medical emergencies, particle physics, philosophy or religion, the forum has many experts who are willing to pass on words of wisdom In fact I know all about all 5, so I'm particularly useful " Don't forget about buying a decent bottle of wine | |||
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" Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya . Too busy making a brew *as Captain Picard* "Tea, earl grey, hot. Think you can manage that, ensign?" " . Earl grey!!!. far too colonialist for me to keep in stock. | |||
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" Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya . Too busy making a brew *as Captain Picard* "Tea, earl grey, hot. Think you can manage that, ensign?" . Earl grey!!!. far too colonialist for me to keep in stock. " This the utopian future, the closest thing on American TV to communism, ensign. We gave up colonialism centuries ago. Remember the Prime Directive? Anyway, me and Riker were going to take an away-team to that alien planet down there and we were looking for a fine young fella to come with, you know, someone who doesn't usually appear on the bridge and is likely to buy the farm.... I mean, return covered in glory. Get your phaser, ensign. | |||
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" Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya . Too busy making a brew *as Captain Picard* "Tea, earl grey, hot. Think you can manage that, ensign?" . Earl grey!!!. far too colonialist for me to keep in stock. This the utopian future, the closest thing on American TV to communism, ensign. We gave up colonialism centuries ago. Remember the Prime Directive? Anyway, me and Riker were going to take an away-team to that alien planet down there and we were looking for a fine young fella to come with, you know, someone who doesn't usually appear on the bridge and is likely to buy the farm.... I mean, return covered in glory. Get your phaser, ensign. " Stop making Star Trek so sinister. | |||
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"If anyone needs to know about complex legal issues, medical emergencies, particle physics, philosophy or religion, the forum has many experts who are willing to pass on words of wisdom In fact I know all about all 5, so I'm particularly useful Don't forget about buying a decent bottle of wine " the most important subject of all! | |||
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"Ok, so it's a theory that re-imagines gravity with a non-Newtonian, non-Einsteinian model, in the process neatly oblivating the Dark Matter conundrum. This theory has been floating around (so to speak) for a few decades but has past the first hurdle of not being disproved by observation. And now the science bit: . "Erik Verlinde, a theoretical physicist at the University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands, has been developing a competing model of gravity that borrows heavily from quantum mechanics, relativity, information theory and string theory. It also builds on controversial models of so-called modified gravity, such as the Modified Newtonian Dynamics (MOND) theory of Mordehai Milgrom. Verlinde’s calculations fit the new study’s observations without resorting to free parameters – essentially values that can be tweaked at will to make theory and observation match.By contrast, says Brouwer, conventional dark matter models need four free parameters to be adjusted to explain the data. “The dark matter model actually fits slightly better with the data than Verlinde’s prediction,” says Brouwer. “But then if you mathematically factor in the fact that Verlinde’s prediction doesn’t have any free parameters, whereas the dark matter prediction does, then you find Verlinde’s model is actually performing slightly better.” New Scientist, Dec. 15th" | |||
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"Humbug! Everyone knows Newton invented gravity when a load of apples fell on his head." Exactly and Einstein and this new fella are just trying to cash in on his invention, but can't work out how he did it. | |||
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" Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya . Too busy making a brew *as Captain Picard* "Tea, earl grey, hot. Think you can manage that, ensign?" . Earl grey!!!. far too colonialist for me to keep in stock. This the utopian future, the closest thing on American TV to communism, ensign. We gave up colonialism centuries ago. Remember the Prime Directive? Anyway, me and Riker were going to take an away-team to that alien planet down there and we were looking for a fine young fella to come with, you know, someone who doesn't usually appear on the bridge and is likely to buy the farm.... I mean, return covered in glory. Get your phaser, ensign. " . Stop following me round with your bullying opinions of sci-fi shows... Everybody knows star trek was actually about imperialism!... Fascist | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). " who cares as long as it works | |||
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" Can always rely on you for some insightful astrophysics. Make some sense. Dare ya . Too busy making a brew *as Captain Picard* "Tea, earl grey, hot. Think you can manage that, ensign?" . Earl grey!!!. far too colonialist for me to keep in stock. This the utopian future, the closest thing on American TV to communism, ensign. We gave up colonialism centuries ago. Remember the Prime Directive? Anyway, me and Riker were going to take an away-team to that alien planet down there and we were looking for a fine young fella to come with, you know, someone who doesn't usually appear on the bridge and is likely to buy the farm.... I mean, return covered in glory. Get your phaser, ensign. . Stop following me round with your bullying opinions of sci-fi shows... Everybody knows star trek was actually about imperialism!... Fascist " Worf, take this man to the Brigg. I'll get my own tea. *goes to replicator* Tea, earl grey, hot. *wanders off muttering about if you want a job doing properly... this would never have happened if Tasha Yarr were still onboard...* | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). who cares as long as it works " It would explain where the 'missing' 95% of the universe is/isn't | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). who cares as long as it works It would explain where the 'missing' 95% of the universe is/isn't " i've never needed or felt i've missed any of that part of the universe so far so i'm still good with not knowing where it is really..it can stay lost as far as i'm concerned | |||
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" It would explain where the 'missing' 95% of the universe is/isn't i've never needed or felt i've missed any of that part of the universe so far so i'm still good with not knowing where it is really..it can stay lost as far as i'm concerned " That's what they said before discovering that electric stuff, america , penicillin, and other weird things | |||
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"If there's no gravity in space then how come all the planets don't float away?" I thought there is gravity everywhere? The only reason you float around in a spaceship is it is travelling in the same direction and at the same speed as the astronauts so there is no relative movement? Or am i wrong? | |||
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"If there's no gravity in space then how come all the planets don't float away? I thought there is gravity everywhere? The only reason you float around in a spaceship is it is travelling in the same direction and at the same speed as the astronauts so there is no relative movement? Or am i wrong? " I'm not sure if you're joking ,sorry | |||
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"Pilates shows me that gravity is really not my friend... " But Pilates fly planes to defeat gravity! | |||
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" It would explain where the 'missing' 95% of the universe is/isn't " Yes, this is the basic problem of the Standard Model. Hubble's observations concerning the speed of rotation of galaxies doesn't match the amount of matter we can see (they rotate so fast that they should fly apart but don't, ergo there must be something else holding galaxies together), hence adding first Dark Matter and then Dark Energy to the mix to account for the 'missing' 95% of energy in the universe necessary to make it work within our existing framework. So we keep adding bits on to the Standard Model. Or, as I've been arguing down the pub, maybe we've misunderstood something really basic. Maybe it was gravity. We'll see. | |||
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"Galaxies do fly apart because of their speed but they do it slowly. It's why we have spiral galaxies. " spira galaxy sounds like some beautiful bastard of a chocolate abomination does it not | |||
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"Galaxies do fly apart because of their speed but they do it slowly. It's why we have spiral galaxies. spira galaxy sounds like some beautiful bastard of a chocolate abomination does it not " That's Milky Way. | |||
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"Galaxies do fly apart because of their speed but they do it slowly. It's why we have spiral galaxies. spira galaxy sounds like some beautiful bastard of a chocolate abomination does it not That's Milky Way. " Milky Way contain dark matter as they don't weigh enough for their size. | |||
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"Galaxies do fly apart because of their speed but they do it slowly. It's why we have spiral galaxies. spira galaxy sounds like some beautiful bastard of a chocolate abomination does it not That's Milky Way. Milky Way contain dark matter as they don't weigh enough for their size." Which is where the doughnut-shaped universe comes in, although you can ignore the implications of spaghetti theory either | |||
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" That's Milky Way. Milky Way contain dark matter as they don't weigh enough for their size. Which is where the doughnut-shaped universe comes in, although you can ignore the implications of spaghetti theory either" Doughnuts and spaghetti? Are they mad? | |||
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"Is it safe to come out yet " Yes, we've sorted it all out. | |||
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"Is it safe to come out yet Yes, we've sorted it all out. " Phew. Physicists are a feisty bunch. | |||
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"Is it safe to come out yet Yes, we've sorted it all out. Phew. Physicists are a feisty bunch." I'm not sure there are that many actual physicists in here. | |||
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"Is it safe to come out yet Yes, we've sorted it all out. Phew. Physicists are a feisty bunch. I'm not sure there are that many actual physicists in here. " Actually, I've fot a Brian Cox book and google! What else is there to it? | |||
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"Is it safe to come out yet Yes, we've sorted it all out. Phew. Physicists are a feisty bunch. I'm not sure there are that many actual physicists in here. Actually, I've fot a Brian Cox book and google! What else is there to it? " | |||
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"Humbug! Everyone knows Newton invented gravity when a load of apples fell on his head." So until Newton invented gravity stuff just floated around? | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). " I was still under the impression that we believed in newtonian theory of gravity not einstein, or thats what i learnt at college anyway all acceleration due to gravity =9.81ms/s | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). I was still under the impression that we believed in newtonian theory of gravity not einstein, or thats what i learnt at college anyway all acceleration due to gravity =9.81ms/s " Newtons theory is 'true' but only holds so far, because of what Einstein added. The 9.81m/s figure is the value on earth, due to earths particular mass and our distance from its centre, it is a different figure on different planets. The theory is universally true, just gives different figures due to different masses and distances. | |||
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"but what happens if we consider gravitational force to be carried by a QM particle dependent on the vibrational state of a single dimensioned object? Surely that would solve all the issues and unite gravity with particle physics " I dont think so. | |||
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"Einsteins theory on gravity may be wrong. Initial experiments show that our understanding of physics may be flawed. Apparently dark matter does not exist. I'll just leave that there. (grabs tin hat and shelters under kitchen table). " At the end of the day does it really matter. My feet remain firmly planted on the ground, that's all that counts. | |||
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"If there's no gravity in space then how come all the planets don't float away?" if there was no gravity a planet wouldn't float away it would drop at a rapid speed like dropping a brick off a roof but on a bigger scale we float through space due to gravity. | |||
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"If there's no gravity in space then how come all the planets don't float away?if there was no gravity a planet wouldn't float away it would drop at a rapid speed like dropping a brick off a roof but on a bigger scale we float through space due to gravity." I'm not the best at interpreting online sarcasm but please say this is a joke | |||
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"If there's no gravity in space then how come all the planets don't float away?if there was no gravity a planet wouldn't float away it would drop at a rapid speed like dropping a brick off a roof but on a bigger scale we float through space due to gravity. I'm not the best at interpreting online sarcasm but please say this is a joke " Now look what you've done! No man with such a bad understanding of physics can stay on the site... | |||
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"If there's no gravity in space then how come all the planets don't float away?if there was no gravity a planet wouldn't float away it would drop at a rapid speed like dropping a brick off a roof but on a bigger scale we float through space due to gravity. I'm not the best at interpreting online sarcasm but please say this is a joke Now look what you've done! No man with such a bad understanding of physics can stay on the site... " I was really hoping my string theory comment would attract the ladies rather than push him away (terrible puns most definitely intended) | |||
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"Here's the thing.. The single BS thing is the denial that gravity exists and that we don't understand physics. I don't understand Physics but I don't NEED to understand physics to know it fucking exists. Whether gravity is a force of nature, the law of attraction or some demonic tendency dragging us towards the hell of the earths core... the gravity is there, and it's real, it EXISTS and it has a reason and it also has a cause. Look hard enough, we'll find that cause, and that will be the truth and /debate ended about whether it does or doesn't exist right there and then.. We can't stamp your feet and scream: "Yeah we don't understand science" or "yeah Science got it wrong." .. " I don't think anybody in the thread or the world is denying gravity exists. The discussion is about its source. Like many scientific discoveries, once that is known and understood, it will help us in our technological progress. e.g you might get a levitating skateboard etc. | |||
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"Here's the thing.. The single BS thing is the denial that gravity exists and that we don't understand physics. I don't understand Physics but I don't NEED to understand physics to know it fucking exists. Whether gravity is a force of nature, the law of attraction or some demonic tendency dragging us towards the hell of the earths core... the gravity is there, and it's real, it EXISTS and it has a reason and it also has a cause. Look hard enough, we'll find that cause, and that will be the truth and /debate ended about whether it does or doesn't exist right there and then.. We can't stamp your feet and scream: "Yeah we don't understand science" or "yeah Science got it wrong." .. I don't think anybody in the thread or the world is denying gravity exists. " You're STILL doing it. Guys, I don't know if this is the husband or the wife commenting but one or both of you really need to start reading threads properly. Read the comments. | |||
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" You're STILL doing it. Guys, I don't know if this is the husband or the wife commenting but one or both of you really need to start reading threads properly. Read the comments. " Not that it makes any difference, but it's the man. I have read them, were was the denial of gravity? The only questions were about its origin / detail. | |||
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"Gravity is one of the most fundamental forces in the universe. What do you get when you remove it? Gravy " my gravy ends up as dark matter | |||
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"Gravity is one of the most fundamental forces in the universe. What do you get when you remove it? Gravy " Clever. | |||
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"Gravity is one of the most fundamental forces in the universe. What do you get when you remove it? Gravy Clever. " I’m glad someone appreciates me | |||
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"Gravity is one of the most fundamental forces in the universe. What do you get when you remove it? Gravy Clever. I’m glad someone appreciates me " I do I do. | |||
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"Einstein’s theory??????? is that relative ?" Albert says e = mc square! Did he write that song? | |||
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"Einstein’s theory??????? is that relative ? Albert says e = mc square! Did he write that song?" yes, it had mass appeal | |||
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"Einstein’s theory??????? is that relative ? Albert says e = mc square! Did he write that song? yes, it had mass appeal" Ha ha!!! | |||
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