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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lorry deliberately driven into Christmas market.

How awful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's happened ??

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's breaking news. 9 dead so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just read about it

Deliberet attack

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Also appears to be a shooting in Zurich.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

And we were worried about a post office strike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fucking evil bastards. It's a wonderful city, especially at Christmas time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Today has been a full news day. The Russian ambassador to Turkey was also shot dead earlier today in Ankara.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not good it happen and they wonder why alternative for germany gain popularity.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

A friend of mine from college is in Berlin - still waiting to hear if ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is live video from the rt channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtJID-N94Is

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

So sad,so much suffering in the world.Thoughts with them all ;(

Miss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My prayers are for those who have lost their lives and their loved ones.

Horrific.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fucking hell !!!

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"A friend of mine from college is in Berlin - still waiting to hear if ok

Just heard he is ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no doubt it was Muslims

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims "

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims. "

I'd assume they were Muslim before they were terrorists. Or maybe not. Or maybe we don't know who did it or why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims. "

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims "

And so the circle continues! It's this kind of ignorance that terrorists look to provoke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

Embarrassing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

Now is not really the time when there is very little information and people are dying!!

However your comment is completely flawed and baseless - there are terrorists and evil doers of every creed, colour and religion, please don't fan the flames with inaccuracies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Such a terrible thing to happen

those poor families! The future Xmas season's that will be marred

So sad xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Terrorists appear in all areas of our world IRA,Basque,IS,Bader Meinhoff,even the mafia can be classed what is fact is that 100% of terrorist acts are carried out by about 1% of those people associated with a religion,class country or race lets not judge

Only my _iew,

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By *44bertCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?"

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great post take care merry xmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

IRA Arnt muslim

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis. "

Exactly where I was going with this.

Now more than ever we all need to reach out and talk to each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You for real understand the concept of the thread its about making an assumption that if its terrorists they must be muslim why should that be terrorism exists in all parts of the world religion etc

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Stand back!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Fab outrage in progress!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"no doubt it was Muslims "
maybe its a home grown terrorist like that nice white christian boy timothy Mcviegh you know the one the blew up oklahoma !

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By *44bertCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis.

Exactly where I was going with this.

Now more than ever we all need to reach out and talk to each other."

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Won't be the last I doubt...

Troubled times all around us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No not at all just my _iew

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

They Might Be Giants will need to rewrite the end of Flood now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With you bro

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims maybe its a home grown terrorist like that nice white christian boy timothy Mcviegh you know the one the blew up oklahoma !"

Or Anders Breivnik, the crazy shooter in Oslo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims "

What a ridiculous small minded comment.

So all Muslims are terrorists. Ridiculous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims "

Nae danger,muslims love Christmas.

My money's on the grinch being responsible!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are of one mind thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

Nae danger,muslims love Christmas.

My money's on the grinch being responsible!"

Another mindless idiot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

Only most of the ones you hear about.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

Nae danger,muslims love Christmas.

My money's on the grinch being responsible!"

That's just inappropriate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

Nae danger,muslims love Christmas.

My money's on the grinch being responsible!

Another mindless idiot "

Hey,who hates Christmas more than the grinch!

My logic is flawless....clearly!

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By *infullyNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Staines

Fucking that, why bring up religion in a time of grieving? Don't you realise that these terrorists don't represent Islam at all. They've been caught drinking, having sex with prostitutes, taking drugs, and you're telling me they represent Islam. If they were Muslims, why would they be killing their own kind in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and multiple places in Africa.

Rant over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

Nae danger,muslims love Christmas.

My money's on the grinch being responsible!

Another mindless idiot

Hey,who hates Christmas more than the grinch!

My logic is flawless....clearly!"

But a comment in poor taste when people are dead

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Back to the point of this thread though - what a terrible and pointless tragedy to happen at any time of the year, but made somehow worse by it happening so close to Xmas.

My heart goes out to all those affected by it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back to the point of this thread though - what a terrible and pointless tragedy to happen at any time of the year, but made somehow worse by it happening so close to Xmas.

My heart goes out to all those affected by it."

Yes I second that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back to the point of this thread though - what a terrible and pointless tragedy to happen at any time of the year, but made somehow worse by it happening so close to Xmas.

My heart goes out to all those affected by it.

Yes I second that "

Me too

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

Tar and feather with that attitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh god

Our Thoughts are with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything about this thread is just sad including the idiotic and insensitive posts on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

Nae danger,muslims love Christmas.

My money's on the grinch being responsible!

Another mindless idiot

Hey,who hates Christmas more than the grinch!

My logic is flawless....clearly!

But a comment in poor taste when people are dead "

Aye my posts are rarely in good taste,n it's obviously a terrible thing to happen,regardless of religion or motive.

This should go without saying of course.

Virtue signaling's all well n good but it's about as helpful as a thousand likes for starving Ethiopians.

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By *he Devils Daughter!Woman
over a year ago

some where in yorkshire

"Everything about this thread is just sad including the idiotic and insensitive posts on it. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

Now is not really the time when there is very little information and people are dying!!

However your comment is completely flawed and baseless - there are terrorists and evil doers of every creed, colour and religion, please don't fan the flames with inaccuracies."

As yet there is no evidence for or against it being terrorists of any kind..... remember the bin lorry in Scotland? It could have been a similar accident. There are no facts yet....just speculation.

Far too many opinions based on no facts whatsoever!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As yet there is no evidence for or against it being terrorists of any kind..... remember the bin lorry in Scotland? It could have been a similar accident. There are no facts yet....just speculation.

Far too many opinions based on no facts whatsoever!"

Oh, stop it! Our modern age of 24 hour news and constant political punditry has taught me that if I want my opinion to be heard I need to make lots of predictions with as few facts as possible.

Prediction+circumstantial evidence=attention

We can even make prime time news if we predict hard enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back to the point of this thread though - what a terrible and pointless tragedy to happen at any time of the year, but made somehow worse by it happening so close to Xmas.

My heart goes out to all those affected by it."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis. "

racism ???? never knew Muslim was race

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis.

racism ???? never knew Muslim was race

Not even going there as this thread is about a terrible tragedy that has happened not fingerpointing in the style of Britain First...

...suggest some respect is shown to the victims and their families instead of trying to blame anyone whether that be a race or a religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis.

racism ???? never knew Muslim was race

Not even going there as this thread is about a terrible tragedy that has happened not fingerpointing in the style of Britain First...

...suggest some respect is shown to the victims and their families instead of trying to blame anyone whether that be a race or a religion."

1, watch your mouth as you have no idea how I feel about it...my family just got back from Germany tonight and was worried to death about them and truly do feel sorry for the people over there

2, anytime anyone say's anything about muslims even though most of the attacks are cause of them, their labeled a racist by limp wristed liberals

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

So what do you want the Muslim community to do? Do you blame all muslims?

Growing up in N Ireland during the 70s and 80s, I can fully sympathise with the Muslim community who are subject to this kind of ignorant racism on a daily basis.

racism ???? never knew Muslim was race

Not even going there as this thread is about a terrible tragedy that has happened not fingerpointing in the style of Britain First...

...suggest some respect is shown to the victims and their families instead of trying to blame anyone whether that be a race or a religion.

1, watch your mouth as you have no idea how I feel about it...my family just got back from Germany tonight and was worried to death about them and truly do feel sorry for the people over there

2, anytime anyone say's anything about muslims even though most of the attacks are cause of them, their labeled a racist by limp wristed liberals "

Enough, thank you.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

If it is the wish of so-called Islamic State to cause a backlash against Muslims in Europe by stirring populations in German, France, the UK and the rest...

...then they are succeeding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem as John Simpson put it - is that you have a returning defeated, radicalised and rejected army who want to seek revenge - I wholeheartedly support civilians in Syria but if they are foreigners who left to fight a Jihad and security services have clear evidence of that - should we let them back in? Would you want to live next to them?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"The problem as John Simpson put it - is that you have a returning defeated, radicalised and rejected army who want to seek revenge - I wholeheartedly support civilians in Syria but if they are foreigners who left to fight a Jihad and security services have clear evidence of that - should we let them back in? Would you want to live next to them?"

There is a war on Facebook in Glastonbury about the housing of 2 - yes TWO - Syrian families who have been let in under the government amnesty.

It's frankly disgusting the things people are saying.

They shouldn't be allowed here. We're wasting tax-payer's money. They're terrorists. They should go home. They shouldn't be allowed to live near each other.

These are people.

Fleeing war.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Fleeing from a war where so-called Islamic State trains children as young as 7 to kill.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-using-more-child-fighters-than-feared-as-suicide-bombers-and-soldiers-after-brainwashing-at-a6883626.html

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

And you blame Muslims?

This is the same shit as Paris, and I post the same response.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

2015

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Just substitute 'Paris' for 'Berlin'

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By *andS_GlasgowCouple
over a year ago

Giffnock

horrendous !

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"horrendous !"

As you were.

*sighs*

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By *liciaKLWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"no doubt it was Muslims "
muslims? the report said it was a polish guy in a polish truck

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By *liciaKLWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

2015"
well said....at least you have the sense to not blame it all on muslims like some other small minded people on this thread

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By *liciaKLWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

IRA Arnt muslim"
neither are the KKK who are an all white christian organization (apparently)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has to be said, though, that Germany's policy of mass, uncontrolled and 'celebrated' immigration has been and will continue to be a disaster for the country.

They need to stop it now and get a handle on the problem.

Latest reports are that the truck driver was a male of middle eastern origin. It is the same M.O as the Nice truck attack - extremely difficult to defend against and anticipate.

It is also a stated tactic of ISIS to smuggle those planning terror attacks through Germany's 'open door' policy.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it."

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you Diamond Joe - very very well put

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

When I did hear of the attack earlier in the evening, my first thought was that's very similar to what happened in nice.

It has since transpired that the driver according to sources at a German newsoutlet is a Pakistani that claimed asylum in Germany in February

Also the company that owned the van said they lost contact with van 3 hours before attack

With that 93% of the population of Pakistan being Muslim, I would say more than likely that the person involved was Muslim, does that mean he is Isis or affiliated to another terrorist organisation we don't know, he could be a lone wolf

It also doesn't mean that all muslims are bad as they are not. In the 70s Ira was an Irish terrorist organisation. A lot of genuine Irish that were in England at the height of troubles, changed name, accent as being Irish was asking for trouble

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's within all our power as to whether these bastards win or not.

Recognising what we have in common with each other, compassion and respect will always defeat these dark forces. Division allows evil to prosper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

But, equally, the la la 'we don't have a problem' attitude and let us put plenty of 'likes' on sympathetic facebook posts achieves the square root of nothing either.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

But, equally, the la la 'we don't have a problem' attitude and let us put plenty of 'likes' on sympathetic facebook posts achieves the square root of nothing either.

Of course there is a problem - there are people dying in Aleppo, Mosul, across Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Turkey... all over.

But I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

You're looking at it all wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thankfully my friends in Berlin have all checked in safe. Comiserations to the family and friends of those who are not so lucky.

As for the terrorists we currently hear about in Western Europe, that is probably connected to Western Europe invading countries and arming and training terrorists or freedom fighters if you support them, to destabilise countries or overthrow governments.

If you send a £ to a refugee charity, keep in mind your government sent several of your tax £'s to cause the misery the refugees are fleeing. Don't stop helping, but remember it when you next get a chance to vote.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

But, equally, the la la 'we don't have a problem' attitude and let us put plenty of 'likes' on sympathetic facebook posts achieves the square root of nothing either.

Of course there is a problem - there are people dying in Aleppo, Mosul, across Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Turkey... all over.

But I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

You're looking at it all wrong"

They need us to hate each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

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over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

But, equally, the la la 'we don't have a problem' attitude and let us put plenty of 'likes' on sympathetic facebook posts achieves the square root of nothing either.

Of course there is a problem - there are people dying in Aleppo, Mosul, across Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Turkey... all over.

But I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

You're looking at it all wrong"

OK, what's your solution then. Love and hugs all round?

So, in the mind of the terrorist, "....too much love on social media today, better postpone the atrocity!" Yeah right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

But, equally, the la la 'we don't have a problem' attitude and let us put plenty of 'likes' on sympathetic facebook posts achieves the square root of nothing either.

Of course there is a problem - there are people dying in Aleppo, Mosul, across Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Turkey... all over.

But I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

You're looking at it all wrong

OK, what's your solution then. Love and hugs all round?

So, in the mind of the terrorist, "....too much love on social media today, better postpone the atrocity!" Yeah right."

Well the bombs and bullets haven't worked so far....

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

But, equally, the la la 'we don't have a problem' attitude and let us put plenty of 'likes' on sympathetic facebook posts achieves the square root of nothing either.

Of course there is a problem - there are people dying in Aleppo, Mosul, across Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Turkey... all over.

But I sincerely believe that the threat to our nation, or even the Western world, doesn't come from terrorist fucks but how we respond to them.

You're looking at it all wrong

OK, what's your solution then. Love and hugs all round?

So, in the mind of the terrorist, "....too much love on social media today, better postpone the atrocity!" Yeah right."

Islamic State is a medieval death cult - it cannot survive.

The Russians have got Syria. The US et al should pull their fingers out in Iraq. A regional settlement - including Assad at the table - needs to be found to stop Syria hemorrhaging refugees and a huge amount of money needs to be spent reconstructing a bunch of countries.

That last bit might be pie in the sky but if you don;t ask, you don't get.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually there has been great success here. Good intelligence work by our intelligence communities has prevented and foiled many attacks.

Germany needs to get a handle on immigration now!

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over a year ago

Putin has been spot on concerning Syria and the Middle East in general. Our meddling created Islamic State.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Your fear is existential.

Your chances of dying in a terrorist attack is about the same as dying from a bee sting.

Not saying it isn't a threat but I don't see the g'ment spending hundreds of millions or introducing news laws to combat the menace of bees.

It has more to do with our reaction to perceived threats.

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over a year ago

I never said 'new laws' personally, but, there is a place for controlling who comes across your borders and the Germans, courtesy of Merkel have got this very, very wrong.

Well funded and professional intelligence services also play a part.

The skill-set of MI5 and MI6 were honed during the Irish troubles and are a legacy we are perhaps benefiting from today.

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

it will be revealed he was

1/Asian.

2/Was working alone and no ties to any organisation or religion.

3/He is suffering from a mental illness!.

It is what they keep telling us after every terror attack but keep forgetting we can see the pattern that is he is 1/.Moslem,

2/.working with an intelligence network who placed him there and promiseissiond him 100 virgins reward for this suicide mission.

3/.Yes Islam is an illness followed by inbreds.

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

"Putin has been spot on concerning Syria and the Middle East in general. Our meddling created Islamic State."

USA created Islamic State with funding from CIA through Hillary Clinton & Barak Obama.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I did hear of the attack earlier in the evening, my first thought was that's very similar to what happened in nice.

It has since transpired that the driver according to sources at a German newsoutlet is a Pakistani that claimed asylum in Germany in February

In which case Merkel now has even more blood on her hands. German police have reportedly thwarted a number of other murderous plots but arrogant Liberal fuckheads like her don't see it as their responsibility however so instead of resigning today she'll now be looking forward to the New Years Eve rapefest by her other vile guests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Fucking that, why bring up religion in a time of grieving? Don't you realise that these terrorists don't represent Islam at all. They've been caught drinking, having sex with prostitutes, taking drugs, and you're telling me they represent Islam. If they were Muslims, why would they be killing their own kind in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and multiple places in Africa.

Rant over"
because an imaginery friend in the sky told them to kill followers of another imaginary friend in the sky after reading a book written by people in power to subjugate the masses thousands of years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will be more to come over the following couple of weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread "

Eye opening and jaw droppingly stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread

Eye opening and jaw droppingly stupid. "

I scrolled up (as I often do I start a thread) and gave up quickly.

RIP all those killed. It's sad more people are interested in fuelling their own hate filled ideology rather than showing any respect to the dead

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over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

They also upload video footage of *incidents* to feed and confuse the social medla fear frenzy. So whilst we want to know what's happening what you _iew on YouTube isn't necessarily what is happening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread

Eye opening and jaw droppingly stupid. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread

Eye opening and jaw droppingly stupid.

I scrolled up (as I often do I start a thread) and gave up quickly.

RIP all those killed. It's sad more people are interested in fuelling their own hate filled ideology rather than showing any respect to the dead"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shocking ............ just shocking.....RIP xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is this world coming to?

Our condolences to all who have been affected by this sad and tragic event

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My favourite city,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try not to let it affect your other prejudices though, its probably unhealthy for people like you to consider more than one thought at any one time, especially while swallowing or blinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try not to let it affect your other prejudices though, its probably unhealthy for people like you to consider more than one thought at any one time, especially while swallowing or blinking"

Reply and quote

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Very sad

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By *ouple4biMMFCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Putin has been spot on concerning Syria and the Middle East in general. Our meddling created Islamic State.

USA created Islamic State with funding from CIA through Hillary Clinton & Barak Obama."

Just a little to add to this mind glowingly short term _iew. Surely you can go back a little further - Reagan funding Bin Laden, The British using Afghanistan and Pakistan to grow opium for trade with China, the fact that you can grow nothing in these regions of any value except these crops...

What I think is stunningly obvious is that on both sides: Islamic extremists, Brexiteers and Trumpers (why is the latter so apt?) the one thing that all have in common is a belief in simple solutions and a stunning lack of education combined with self belief that excludes all common sense.

What is tragic is that this and economic depression are strikingly similar to the problems of the 1930's

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread

Eye opening and jaw droppingly stupid.

I scrolled up (as I often do I start a thread) and gave up quickly.

RIP all those killed. It's sad more people are interested in fuelling their own hate filled ideology rather than showing any respect to the dead"

Sadly true and agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently the man dead was the Polish driver who had stab wounds. How on earth do you stop someone who hijacks and kills a driver, how could you trace what was obviously a perfectly innocent driver and company?

It is designed to stop the immigration policies Germany has and justify the beliefs of ISIS, so that they can recruit again. I shouldn't think that Isis or whatever new name they come up with will find it hard to recruit young men from Allepo.

We need a Nelson Mandela figure for the middle east

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Christ there's some eye opening statements on this thread

Eye opening and jaw droppingly stupid.

I scrolled up (as I often do I start a thread) and gave up quickly.

RIP all those killed. It's sad more people are interested in fuelling their own hate filled ideology rather than showing any respect to the dead"
this

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Apparently the man dead was the Polish driver who had stab wounds. How on earth do you stop someone who hijacks and kills a driver, how could you trace what was obviously a perfectly innocent driver and company?

We need a Nelson Mandela figure for the middle east"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another very tragic attack.

Unfortunately these things will continue to occur until humans stop thinking that religions have solutions to complicated problems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims "

No doubt. But they will be mentally ill. Not just a vile cancerous cult

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over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

IRA Arnt muslim"

He said most.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

IRA Arnt muslim

He said most. "

Entirely depends on one's definition of terrorist.

Nelson Mandela (father of the nation, ender of Apartheid, all-round good egg) pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station.

The definition of terror and terrorist are highly subjective.

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over a year ago

Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

9/11 is the most deadly terror attack in the history of the USA the second most deadly ? The Oklahoma Bombings. The people who did this ? NOT MUSLIM

Just because more recent attacks have been by Islamic extremists doesn't mean all terrorists are Muslim. Terrorism is underlined by issues in a culture and country so the only reason most recent attacks seem to be by groups from Islamic counties are because they are the countries currently in turmoil

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over a year ago

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse."

are you Caucasian ? Does that automatically make you a member of the KKK?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse."

only takes one person to hide behind or use their distortion of a religion or their country and act beyond the pale..

been going on for a couple of thousand years..

so has ignorance too..

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

every word written to divide, is a win for the hating minority.....l

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"every word written to divide, is a win for the hating minority.....l"

this..

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"every word written to divide, is a win for the hating minority.....l"

They need us to hate each other

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse."

*shakes head in dismay* Tarring all Muslims with terrorist acts is like tarring all Catholics with the despicable crimes of some of it's priests or all Baptists with the Westboro ethos...need I go on? Just because a minority carry out an act in the name of their religion does NOT mean the whole of that religion is responsible.

I find it sad that this thread has become about bigotry and hatred and not horror and compassion for the victims of the events that happened in Berlin last night.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"every word written to divide, is a win for the hating minority.....l

They need us to hate each other"

agreed, some on here i swear must be wanking themselves silly whenever such a vile attack occur's which feeds their hate..

in other news 2 also innocent people are severely wounded and one other less so after being shot at a mosque in Zurich..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse.

I find it sad that this thread has become about bigotry and hatred and not horror and compassion for the victims of the events that happened in Berlin last night."

this..

the logic that is applied by those who are wanting to feed their own hate is that all men must be rapist's, all priests and football coaches paedophiles and all doctors and nurses murderers..

its beyond ignorance..

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

time to rise up show balls and get rid of the terror groups ....people forget the IRA was made up of less the 1000 people....most of them well known...we could of wiped them out but the do gooders were in charge ...shoot first ask laters shit happens....these people hurt/ killed are not targets ...these terror groups are so vile ...kill the barstards now

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over a year ago

"time to rise up show balls and get rid of the terror groups ....people forget the IRA was made up of less the 1000 people....most of them well known...we could of wiped them out but the do gooders were in charge ...shoot first ask laters shit happens....these people hurt/ killed are not targets ...these terror groups are so vile ...kill the barstards now"

But that's what sets us apart from the animals who do these things is that everyone has the right to a fair trial.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

But that's what sets us apart from the animals who do these things is that everyone has the right to a fair trial.

agreed..

what also sets us apart is the ability to think and apply logic, to assess and consider before acting..

well with most of us..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So in your world if I have a suspicion you're a terrorist I can walk up and shoot you and kill you and then if I found later I'm wrong it's just a case of oops sorry

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over a year ago

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse.

are you Caucasian ? Does that automatically make you a member of the KKK?"

The KKK is not a way of life for white people. They are a scum group of mostly American fuck wits.

Islam is a way of life. It's an instruction on how they live their lives.

funny we live in a life where people scream I'm afraid over Trump and Brexit but have a million excuses for the risk that's very real.

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

"It is not Paris that we should pray for. It is the world.

It is a world in which Beirut, reeling from bombings 2 days before Paris, is to covered by the press.

A world in which a bomb goes off at a funeral in Baghdad and not one person status update says ‘Baghdad’, because not one white person died in that fire.

Pray for the world that blames a refugee crisis for a terrorist attack. That does not pause to differentiate between the attacker and the person running from the very same thing that you are.

Pray for a world where people walking across countries for months, their only belonging on their backs, are told they have no place to go.

Say a pray for Paris by all mean, but pray more, for the world that does not have a prayer for those who no longer have a home to defend.

For a world that is falling apart in all corners, and not simply in the towers and cafes we find so familiar.

2015"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse.

are you Caucasian ? Does that automatically make you a member of the KKK?

The KKK is not a way of life for white people. They are a scum group of mostly American fuck wits.

Islam is a way of life. It's an instruction on how they live their lives.

funny we live in a life where people scream I'm afraid over Trump and Brexit but have a million excuses for the risk that's very real. "

You are saying that all Muslims are bad people when it's a minority . Your point is as ridiculous as me suggesting all white people are racist and support white supremacy

And yes trump in power does scare me because it encourages ignorant behaviour and beliefs like many displayed in this thread

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

Lmao

What do you propose to do with the likes of Hilary Clinton who created, funded and armed ISIS and such like? Don't forget the biggest terrorists are in government and they fall about laughing at the little people they set against one another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brainless, mentally ill religious nutsacks butcher innocents for absolutely no reason?

Pointless, irrelevant modern religion strikes again! But nothing will be done of course, so, until next time

And the time after that...

and the time after that...

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"The suspect in the Berlin lorry attack that killed 12 people and injured 48 others has denied any involvement, Germany's interior minister said."

"The man being held is believed to have arrived in Germany from Pakistan at the end of last year."

"... the suspect arrived in Germany on 31 December last year, and later turned up in Berlin in February. His asylum application had not been completed..."

"German media have identified the man, citing security sources, as a 23-year-old named Naved B."

I pray that the count does not go any higher. 12 innocent people just before Christmas is terrible enough

I hope Mr B. has a long time to reflect on his religion and what he has done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no doubt it was Muslims

No. It possibly is terrorists who happen to be muslims.

funny that most terrorists seem to be muslims isn't it

IRA Arnt muslim

He said most.

Entirely depends on one's definition of terrorist.

The definition of terror and terrorist are highly subjective. "
.

The definition of a terrorist is clear, mendela was a terrorist, it's his ability to realise that and change to a non terrorist means that singles him out for the plaudits he rightly gets

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over a year ago

"Brainless, mentally ill religious nutsacks butcher innocents for absolutely no reason?

Pointless, irrelevant modern religion strikes again! But nothing will be done of course, so, until next time

And the time after that...

and the time after that...

"
.

Sadly I think that's about as good a summary as anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"... some on here i swear must be wanking themselves silly whenever such a vile attack occur's which feeds their hate... "

The politically correct mind-set is clearly becoming increasingly deranged in its passive acceptance of and search for excuses for the now regular, world-wide, koran-inspired slaughter.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"... some on here i swear must be wanking themselves silly whenever such a vile attack occur's which feeds their hate...

The politically correct mind-set is clearly becoming increasingly deranged in its passive acceptance of and search for excuses for the now regular, world-wide, koran-inspired slaughter."

Yawn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

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That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it."

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As Rachel Woodcock said: "It's not religious ideology that causes problems -state- imposed atheism was a defining feature of brutal 20th century regimes led by Staline, Tito, Mao Zedong and pol Pot among other, which resulted in the suffering and murder of millions.

Christians alone were executed for their beliefs by ATHEISTS intent on purging religion from the soviet union.

Religion, unfortunately, provides a useful cover and powerful motivator for the evil-hearted.

That religion can be so markedly different in the hands of the power-hungry, as opposed to the altruistic and virtuous, really says more about human psychology than it does about religion."

Religion is certainly invovled in so many conflicts but to say that religion is responsible is a distortion of the truth !

What is interesting to see is how anti-religious people religiously defend their _iews.

I just put that here :

Non-religious dictator lives lost:

Joseph Stalin : 15,000,000

Pot Plot : 1,700,000

Kim II Sung : 1.6 million

Tito : 570 000

List non exshautive.

Comprendra qui pourra

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"... some on here i swear must be wanking themselves silly whenever such a vile attack occur's which feeds their hate...

The politically correct mind-set is clearly becoming increasingly deranged in its passive acceptance of and search for excuses for the now regular, world-wide, koran-inspired slaughter."

wrong and again ignorant as most of what you pop up with whenever there is innocent blood spilled, actually no..

only when its the blood of innocent western or white people does your banal and blinkered rhetoric spout forth its predictability..

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"As Rachel Woodcock said: "It's not religious ideology that causes problems -state- imposed atheism was a defining feature of brutal 20th century regimes led by Staline, Tito, Mao Zedong and pol Pot among other, which resulted in the suffering and murder of millions.

Christians alone were executed for their beliefs by ATHEISTS intent on purging religion from the soviet union.

Religion, unfortunately, provides a useful cover and powerful motivator for the evil-hearted.

That religion can be so markedly different in the hands of the power-hungry, as opposed to the altruistic and virtuous, really says more about human psychology than it does about religion."

Religion is certainly invovled in so many conflicts but to say that religion is responsible is a distortion of the truth !

What is interesting to see is how anti-religious people religiously defend their _iews.

I just put that here :

Non-religious dictator lives lost:

Joseph Stalin : 15,000,000

Pot Plot : 1,700,000

Kim II Sung : 1.6 million

Tito : 570 000

List non exshautive.

Comprendra qui pourra

J'ai bien compris et tous est vrai mon ami!!

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By *eefyBangerMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

Merkal should be up on trial for genocide. She has caused this with her open door policy. I understand that there are genuine refugees but all it takes is just one which has been proven

I'm also fully aware that there are native European terrorists in amongst us but why then increase the risk.

Refugees welcome? Not in my book

If this makes me a racist then so be it

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over a year ago

"Merkal should be up on trial for genocide. She has caused this with her open door policy. I understand that there are genuine refugees but all it takes is just one which has been proven

I'm also fully aware that there are native European terrorists in amongst us but why then increase the risk.

Refugees welcome? Not in my book

If this makes me a racist then so be it"

Keep jizzing in your pants, politic isn't made for you mate.

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over a year ago

"Merkal should be up on trial for genocide. She has caused this with her open door policy. I understand that there are genuine refugees but all it takes is just one which has been proven

I'm also fully aware that there are native European terrorists in amongst us but why then increase the risk.

Refugees welcome? Not in my book

If this makes me a racist then so be it"

my parents were refugees...glad folk like you don't have much sway

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Merkal should be up on trial for genocide. She has caused this with her open door policy. I understand that there are genuine refugees but all it takes is just one which has been proven

I'm also fully aware that there are native European terrorists in amongst us but why then increase the risk.

Refugees welcome? Not in my book

If this makes me a racist then so be it"

So to prevent one bad apple getting through you'd throw away the whole barrel and leave them to rot? What a charmer!!

Whilst it would of course be preferable that the bad apples were kept at bay or filtered out, it's not always going to be possible, and should never be at the cost of human life by turning people away who would otherwise die. In fact by your argument if she had a closed door policy would Merkel be guilty of an even greater genocide than you suggest, as she'd be signing the death warrants of those she turned away?

*sighs* thank gawd this thread only has twenty or so posts left in it

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

Yes, luv.

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!”

~ Brian Cox

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

Yes, luv.

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

~ Brian Cox"
That is why political correctness is killing the world slowly for not accepting other _iews and hence why it have gone the way it has in the world.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

Yes, luv.

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

~ Brian Cox"

But you have not demonstrated anything to the contrary. You have simply stated your opinion, nothing more and nothing less. So did Shag. However you ridiculed him and he refrained from retorting. Now, what does that say about you?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

Yes, luv.

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

~ Brian Cox

Again, scroll up, I was pointing out to Shag that he missed the salient point of my argument from earlier.

Have a read.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Most dangerous people in the world. The Muslim race is on the march and won't stop until they get what they want.

Peaceful religion my arse.

I find it sad that this thread has become about bigotry and hatred and not horror and compassion for the victims of the events that happened in Berlin last night."

Sadly, every thread about an atrocity does that now.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

glad to see the do gooders are also swingers...fair trial etc etc ....did the xmas shoppers in berlin get a fair trial.. lets see what comes home to roost with all these migrants etc .....bet mrs turtle fells good today ...oh lets help the poor economic migrants ...poor people ...fuck them let them kill each other ,shit happens

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

Yes, luv.

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

~ Brian Cox

Again, scroll up, I was pointing out to Shag that he missed the salient point of my argument from earlier.

Have a read.

You have made no salient points. Only your opinions. Some, I think which are OK and others, I think, are pure drivel with absolutely no substance

You are entitled to your opinion and others to theirs. You just look like some kind of a bully in a playground; sad, that you need to belittle people to make your 'salient points'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christians alone were executed for their beliefs by ATHEISTS intent on purging religion from the soviet union.

Religion, unfortunately, provides a useful cover and powerful motivator for the evil-hearted.

That religion can be so markedly different in the hands of the power-hungry, as opposed to the altruistic and virtuous, really says more about human psychology than it does about religion."

Religion is certainly invovled in so many conflicts but to say that religion is responsible is a distortion of the truth !

What is interesting to see is how anti-religious people religiously defend their _iews.

I just put that here :

Non-religious dictator lives lost:

Joseph Stalin : 15,000,000

Pot Plot : 1,700,000

Kim II Sung : 1.6 million

Tito : 570 000

List non exshautive.

Comprendra qui pourra

"
..

What's the official recognised punishment for apostasy under Islam?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm 99% sure that if a terrorist wanted to attack they would find a way to get into a country even if there was No immigration

Also the suspect is an asylum seeker not an economic migrant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christians alone were executed for their beliefs by ATHEISTS intent on purging religion from the soviet union.

Religion, unfortunately, provides a useful cover and powerful motivator for the evil-hearted.

That religion can be so markedly different in the hands of the power-hungry, as opposed to the altruistic and virtuous, really says more about human psychology than it does about religion."

Religion is certainly invovled in so many conflicts but to say that religion is responsible is a distortion of the truth !

What is interesting to see is how anti-religious people religiously defend their _iews.

I just put that here :

Non-religious dictator lives lost:

Joseph Stalin : 15,000,000

Pot Plot : 1,700,000

Kim II Sung : 1.6 million

Tito : 570 000

List non exshautive.

Comprendra qui pourra

What's the official recognised punishment for apostasy under Islam?

What is your point ?

And if it is to say that religion is bad, reread then rereread and maybe rereread what I have wrote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Merkal should be up on trial for genocide. She has caused this with her open door policy. I understand that there are genuine refugees but all it takes is just one which has been proven

I'm also fully aware that there are native European terrorists in amongst us but why then increase the risk.

Refugees welcome? Not in my book

If this makes me a racist then so be it"

Do you think it makes you a racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"glad to see the do gooders are also swingers...fair trial etc etc ....did the xmas shoppers in berlin get a fair trial.. lets see what comes home to roost with all these migrants etc .....bet mrs turtle fells good today ...oh lets help the poor economic migrants ...poor people ...fuck them let them kill each other ,shit happens"

Your lack of compassion towards another human is disgusting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your lack of compassion towards another human is disgusting."

My blocklist gets fed

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It was the ISIS, they claim responsibility for it.

Of that I have no doubt - but they do it to provoke people into fear and mistrust and changing ourselves more than they ever could.

That's the bit you don;t see.

That is right and we all knew it was them that was behind it.

Yes, Shag.

*pats Shag on the head*

Run along and rejoin the class now?

Please don't be patronising

Your opinion is no more valid than his and you are no more intelligent than him

Sorry to have to say this but this makes you appear rather silly

Yes, luv.

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

~ Brian Cox

Again, scroll up, I was pointing out to Shag that he missed the salient point of my argument from earlier.

Have a read.

You have made no salient points. Only your opinions. Some, I think which are OK and others, I think, are pure drivel with absolutely no substance

You are entitled to your opinion and others to theirs. You just look like some kind of a bully in a playground; sad, that you need to belittle people to make your 'salient points'"

Wotevs

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Anyway, there are some more victims and their families, under all this Fab Outrage

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Anyway, there are some more victims and their families, under all this Fab Outrage"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38356058

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People like you are why humanity is fucked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyway, there are some more victims and their families, under all this Fab Outrage

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38356058"

My thoughts go with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

History will judge merkel hard

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Not sure what being a so called "do gooder" and being a swinger has to do with anything?!

Will be the same thing that's come home to roost with previous generations of migrants going back centuries....a richer and more cosmopolitan world where people are hopefully more aware and accepting of other cultures and beliefs.

Asking if the shoppers in Berlin got a fair trial is like asking if the victims in Oklahoma killed at the hands of a white Christian got a fair trial, or the victims of widespread child abuse at the hands of some sections of the Catholic church got a fair trial....i.e. pointless!! Of course they didn't and no-one in their right mind would suggest that they did or that what has happened to them is right. But just as you can't do that you can't blame an entire religion for the actions of a minority who say they are acting in the name of that religion!!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"History will judge merkel hard"

No, history will judge Blair and Bush for starting this whole shit storm in the first place.

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