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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas." I must confess I have a bad habit of the break thing It also bugs me the tits with only one headlight or no headlights but fucking fog lights only. | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. I must confess I have a bad habit of the break thing " Take a spank as punishment | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. I must confess I have a bad habit of the break thing Take a spank as punishment" Spank taken | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. I must confess I have a bad habit of the break thing It also bugs me the tits with only one headlight or no headlights but fucking fog lights only. " Having your foot on the brake can lead to increased rear end accidents at junctions. As the idiot behind sees your brake lights go off and starts moving when you haven't. I always use the handbrake if I am sat for anytime. My pet hate is rear fog lights when you can see the twenty cars in front and the fog is not thick. It's a shame there is not more police to enforce these rules such as using front fogs only in poor visibility conditions. | |||
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"I got a fine for leaving my fog lights on when it was not foggy 80pounds could have just told me to turn them off but he was a tit" I'll bet you don't forget to turn them off now though. | |||
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"I got a fine for leaving my fog lights on when it was not foggy 80pounds could have just told me to turn them off but he was a tit" Nobody likes being fined but if the police done this more often people would stop breaking small laws. | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas." There do seem to be loads of drivers who won't use the handbrake. Either footbrake as you say or ride the clutch. Lazy buggers! | |||
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"I got a fine for leaving my fog lights on when it was not foggy 80pounds could have just told me to turn them off but he was a tit" Good man, wish more were fined! | |||
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"I got a fine for leaving my fog lights on when it was not foggy 80pounds could have just told me to turn them off but he was a tit Good man, wish more were fined! " Paying the police share holders fines...Gestepo Nation.. | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. There do seem to be loads of drivers who won't use the handbrake. Either footbrake as you say or ride the clutch. Lazy buggers! " I don't ride the clutch as my car is stop start I just sit with foot on break out of habit not laziness | |||
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" Oh and by the way my car is not fitted with a handbrake " I don't know of any car that doesn't have a secondary brake (hand, electronic, pull lever etc) what do you drive. | |||
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"If you have a car with stop start then when you have your foot on break the engine shuts down. You have to keep your foot on the brake because when you lift it the engine starts. If you were to apply the handbrake and take your foot of the foot brake then you have to re start the engine before you can drive off, you would then be behind me with your hand on the hooter because all of us with the technology would be starting the ignition. Oh and by the way my car is not fitted with a handbrake " Mine and other cars I've driven with start stop only stop on the clutch I can only imagine yours is an automatic hence only working on foot break | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas." Sorry .... I wont do it again | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. Sorry .... I wont do it again " Thank you. I'm in no need of mobile corrective eye surgery at the moment | |||
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"What gets me with the fog lights thing is there is a light on the dash showing the driver that they are on but they still don't turn them off just like the indecator thing clicking away as well as the light and they drive for miles with it still going " Don't be so sensible, who actually checks their instruments while they're driving. It's not as if they give you important information after all. | |||
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"What gets me with the fog lights thing is there is a light on the dash showing the driver that they are on but they still don't turn them off just like the indecator thing clicking away as well as the light and they drive for miles with it still going Don't be so sensible, who actually checks their instruments while they're driving. It's not as if they give you important information after all. " they're too busy on their mobiles to be checking anything else | |||
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"If you have a car with stop start then when you have your foot on break the engine shuts down. You have to keep your foot on the brake because when you lift it the engine starts. If you were to apply the handbrake and take your foot of the foot brake then you have to re start the engine before you can drive off, you would then be behind me with your hand on the hooter because all of us with the technology would be starting the ignition. Oh and by the way my car is not fitted with a handbrake Mine and other cars I've driven with start stop only stop on the clutch I can only imagine yours is an automatic hence only working on foot break" Your correct its an automatic have driven auto cars for at least 30 years. Still getting used to the stop start as only had it a month Have always put car in neutral and hand brake (Hate predictive text )on. on since I learnt to drive | |||
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"I find they never bloody use them when it's foggy, and we can get real pea souper weather here sometimes. " Love that part of the world. Born in Hereford, yeah the Severn and the Wye can throw off some thick fog! | |||
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"If you have a car with stop start then when you have your foot on break the engine shuts down. You have to keep your foot on the brake because when you lift it the engine starts. If you were to apply the handbrake and take your foot of the foot brake then you have to re start the engine before you can drive off, you would then be behind me with your hand on the hooter because all of us with the technology would be starting the ignition. Oh and by the way my car is not fitted with a handbrake " What car do you drive as every car has a mechanical brake applied to the rear brakes. It just may be controlled by a button. In that case a lot if manufacturers have added the feature to allow you to hold the car without the foot brake. | |||
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"If you have a car with stop start then when you have your foot on break the engine shuts down. You have to keep your foot on the brake because when you lift it the engine starts. If you were to apply the handbrake and take your foot of the foot brake then you have to re start the engine before you can drive off, you would then be behind me with your hand on the hooter because all of us with the technology would be starting the ignition. Oh and by the way my car is not fitted with a handbrake " Get rid of it before its 3 years old then.....hand brake i's a generic term for a parking brake you muse have one of those | |||
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"I don't get this whole dazzled by front fog lights thing, never in 20 years of driving have I ever been dazzled by front fog lights (I use them all the time at night when in unlit b roads btw). Rear fogs on the other hand are dazzling when people use them when it isn't foggy." Then you are a poor driver. The point of headlights is the throw light as far down the road as possible as that is where you should be looking. The point of fog lights is for the left one to illuminate the kerb and the right one to throw light just in front the the front bumper so that the light does not bounce back in the fog and dazzle you, and so that you can drive slowly following the road immediately ahead and by following the kerb. You should not be looking there when the night is clear and there is no need to illuminate that part of the road. It is also illegal and carries a £30 fine. | |||
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"I totally agree with you, one of the things that really annoys me is cars coming from slip roads and expect you to move over I'm sure it says in the highway code give way to traffic from the right" Honest I've had transits that look like they sideswiped a chieftain tank..Nobody messes around with a battle scarred long wheel base transit pulling out or over on you as they know who doesn't bottle it | |||
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"What gets me with the fog lights thing is there is a light on the dash showing the driver that they are on but they still don't turn them off just like the indecator thing clicking away as well as the light and they drive for miles with it still going " but the light fingy is pwitie and matches my phone | |||
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"This and poorly adjusted headlights that may as well be main beams. Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. There do seem to be loads of drivers who won't use the handbrake. Either footbrake as you say or ride the clutch. Lazy buggers! " Who cares?? If this sort of thing gets you sufficiently unhappy then I wonder that you are given control over a vehicle of your own. | |||
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"Low level front fog lights are not dazzling. They are designed such that they put light on the road surface as opposed to scattering it in the air/fog where it diffuses and can cause even worse visibility. The rear fog lamp can be dazzling a little but I think there is an element of socially perpetuated overreaction going on here. " It's not so much the dazzle from the rear fog lights, but the fact that they are the same intensity as the brake lights, so it is difficult to see when the car in front is braking, | |||
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"Low level front fog lights are not dazzling. They are designed such that they put light on the road surface as opposed to scattering it in the air/fog where it diffuses and can cause even worse visibility. The rear fog lamp can be dazzling a little but I think there is an element of socially perpetuated overreaction going on here. It's not so much the dazzle from the rear fog lights, but the fact that they are the same intensity as the brake lights, so it is difficult to see when the car in front is braking, " It's not. There is one fog lamp and they are to the side of the car. There is always a brake light in the centre of the rear of the car. If there are two bright lights lower and one in the centre of the top on, then the car is braking. If there is only one light on and the car is not slowing down, it's probably a fog lamp If you are so close you don't have time to look, you are too close. | |||
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"Low level front fog lights are not dazzling. They are designed such that they put light on the road surface as opposed to scattering it in the air/fog where it diffuses and can cause even worse visibility. The rear fog lamp can be dazzling a little but I think there is an element of socially perpetuated overreaction going on here. " May I ask why they are called fog lights if your ok to use them when not foggy. As for not dazzling try having a 4x4s fog lights in your rear view mirror when there's no poor visibility so no reason for them to be on. There's simply no reason to use them unless a) it's foggy b) they are your turning lights like many cars now have. Surely the headlights should suffice to light the road ahead. | |||
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"Low level front fog lights are not dazzling. They are designed such that they put light on the road surface as opposed to scattering it in the air/fog where it diffuses and can cause even worse visibility. The rear fog lamp can be dazzling a little but I think there is an element of socially perpetuated overreaction going on here. May I ask why they are called fog lights if your ok to use them when not foggy. As for not dazzling try having a 4x4s fog lights in your rear view mirror when there's no poor visibility so no reason for them to be on. There's simply no reason to use them unless a) it's foggy b) they are your turning lights like many cars now have. Surely the headlights should suffice to light the road ahead. " Fine, but it's not the end of the world. It does little or no harm. | |||
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"Can cause harm if who was being dazzled hit something or someone. " Yes but that doesn't happen when people are driving otherwise safely. | |||
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" What car do you drive as every car has a mechanical brake applied to the rear brakes. " Just to be pedantic ...'Proper' Land Rovers don't. They have a transmission brake (to reduce the chance of mud and crap stopping the actual brake from working) but same effect The biggest problem I find at the moment are morons who leave it all up to the car. Fog and the sun trying to burn it off is not that dark and the car just thinks it is overcast and puts no lights on at all. Add that to a perfectly camouflaged silver car and you have an accident just waiting to happen. | |||
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" what gets my goat is when i've been following someone for miles and miles....THEN they switch the fog lights on!!! I KNOW YOU'RE THERE YOU PILLOCK!!!! " So true, then because the're not needed they dazzel you, my answer is Main Beam !!!! | |||
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"Low level front fog lights are not dazzling. They are designed such that they put light on the road surface as opposed to scattering it in the air/fog where it diffuses and can cause even worse visibility. The rear fog lamp can be dazzling a little but I think there is an element of socially perpetuated overreaction going on here. It's not so much the dazzle from the rear fog lights, but the fact that they are the same intensity as the brake lights, so it is difficult to see when the car in front is braking, It's not. There is one fog lamp and they are to the side of the car. There is always a brake light in the centre of the rear of the car. If there are two bright lights lower and one in the centre of the top on, then the car is braking. If there is only one light on and the car is not slowing down, it's probably a fog lamp If you are so close you don't have time to look, you are too close. " Incorrect, I have rear fog light on my car but NO 3rd centre brake light, this is how it came from the Ford factory !!!!!! | |||
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"Can cause harm if who was being dazzled hit something or someone. Yes but that doesn't happen when people are driving otherwise safely." And part of driving safely would be to turn off the fog lights and only use when it's actually needed. | |||
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"If you're really being dazzled by a fog light you could just back off from up their arse. I can think of lots of times when I've thought 'twat' to somebody without their lights on, but not for leaving a fog light on." I'm actually talking about front fog lights which I think is quite obvious. Like you say I too have thought 'twat' to someone without their lights on. | |||
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"If you're really being dazzled by a fog light you could just back off from up their arse. I can think of lots of times when I've thought 'twat' to somebody without their lights on, but not for leaving a fog light on. I'm actually talking about front fog lights which I think is quite obvious. Like you say I too have thought 'twat' to someone without their lights on. " Too be fair I've probably thought 'twat' to people with front fog lights on without knowing that's what they were. I just thought they were on full beam There are so many bloody lights now. But yes the worst are the ones who don't use them when it is actually foggy. | |||
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"I don't get this whole dazzled by front fog lights thing, never in 20 years of driving have I ever been dazzled by front fog lights (I use them all the time at night when in unlit b roads btw). Rear fogs on the other hand are dazzling when people use them when it isn't foggy. Have you ever been dazzled my somebodies front fogs? If not what's the harm in using them? Then you are a poor driver. The point of headlights is the throw light as far down the road as possible as that is where you should be looking. The point of fog lights is for the left one to illuminate the kerb and the right one to throw light just in front the the front bumper so that the light does not bounce back in the fog and dazzle you, and so that you can drive slowly following the road immediately ahead and by following the kerb. You should not be looking there when the night is clear and there is no need to illuminate that part of the road. It is also illegal and carries a £30 fine." | |||
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"I don't get this whole dazzled by front fog lights thing, never in 20 years of driving have I ever been dazzled by front fog lights (I use them all the time at night when in unlit b roads btw). Rear fogs on the other hand are dazzling when people use them when it isn't foggy. Have you ever been dazzled my somebodies front fogs? If not what's the harm in using them? Then you are a poor driver. The point of headlights is the throw light as far down the road as possible as that is where you should be looking. The point of fog lights is for the left one to illuminate the kerb and the right one to throw light just in front the the front bumper so that the light does not bounce back in the fog and dazzle you, and so that you can drive slowly following the road immediately ahead and by following the kerb. You should not be looking there when the night is clear and there is no need to illuminate that part of the road. It is also illegal and carries a £30 fine." I too find it annoying almost as much as drivers going around with one light missing. FFS a bulb doesn't cost that much to replace! | |||
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"Dip the rear view mirror, thats what that function is there for,,,,,,,,,,,," Agreed, but then why should people have to adjust their mirror just to suit a bellend who thinks their front fog lights make their car look better. As the previous poster put up about the highway code. Fog lights are there to help when visibility is reduced. | |||
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" Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas." One of my cars is an auto so that's my excuse for keeping the brake on | |||
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" Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. One of my cars is an auto so that's my excuse for keeping the brake on" No parking brake and neutral on it? | |||
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" Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. One of my cars is an auto so that's my excuse for keeping the brake on No parking brake and neutral on it? " I wondered what that button was for!!! | |||
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" Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. One of my cars is an auto so that's my excuse for keeping the brake on No parking brake and neutral on it? I wondered what that button was for!!! " One of youre cars!!....i only have one | |||
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" Oh and wankers that sit on the brakes at traffic lights/queues, burning red laser beams into my retinas. One of my cars is an auto so that's my excuse for keeping the brake on No parking brake and neutral on it? I wondered what that button was for!!! One of youre cars!!....i only have one " They serve a purpose | |||
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"There was bad fog on the A34 southbound last Saturday. A lot of cars, and some lorries had NO lights on. This is far worse in my view. Also, many lorries have uselessly dim rear lights in comparison with cars. Why is this?" Agreed with you on this, but part of my annoyance with the use of fog lights is most of the knobhead who drive with them on at night don't use them when they actually need them. | |||
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"This thread should get a gold award. How come??" Because every overreacting Snowflake deserves an award for being such special and clever souls? | |||
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"This thread should get a gold award. How come?? Because every overreacting Snowflake deserves an award for being such special and clever souls?" Driver safety isn't over reacting but if you think it is then carry on as you are? | |||
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"There was bad fog on the A34 southbound last Saturday. A lot of cars, and some lorries had NO lights on. This is far worse in my view. Also, many lorries have uselessly dim rear lights in comparison with cars. Why is this?" Agreed! When you consider how hot VOSA or whatever they call themselves are with lorries regarding condition and inspections, it`s surprising they haven`t called for lights to be upgraded. Even more so when you consider it doesn`t take very long at all for lorry rear lights to get mucky and with driving time restricted they can`t always be pulling over at every services to clean their lights! | |||
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"This thread should get a gold award. How come??" Cos ...... it made me realise that I needed to gen up on fog lights where's and whens on my car ...... so Ta x | |||
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"Sitting with your foot on the foot brake at traffic lights is dangerous as if you are impacted from the rear your foot will come off the brake and the car will move. This would be considered a 'major' in the UK driving test. When stationary the handbrake should be applied. In my experience also, travelling several thousand miles per month with my work, the reason that idiots often forget to switch off their foglights is either due to their car being a poorly maintained Cyclops without them, or their hand is too busy operating their mobile phone instead of the controls within the vehicle!!!" What about those cars without a handbrake and automatic lights? Nothing to do with Maintainace or being on the phone | |||
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"My lower lights used turn on automatically in my last car, doesn't always mean they are fog lights. " There will have been a switch you did not find Only fog lights are allowed to be on with side light. extra "driving lights" are only allowed on with main beam, and must go out automatically when on dipped beam | |||
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"Sitting with your foot on the foot brake at traffic lights is dangerous as if you are impacted from the rear your foot will come off the brake and the car will move. This would be considered a 'major' in the UK driving test. When stationary the handbrake should be applied. In my experience also, travelling several thousand miles per month with my work, the reason that idiots often forget to switch off their foglights is either due to their car being a poorly maintained Cyclops without them, or their hand is too busy operating their mobile phone instead of the controls within the vehicle!!! What about those cars without a handbrake and automatic lights? Nothing to do with Maintainace or being on the phone" It's amazing that you were able to be in two cars at once so often to read the service book and see what the driver is up to. Some of the worst drivers I know drive professionally. Adding that you drive lots each week doesn't put you on a higher plane of knowledge than us commoners. It simply means you spend more time driving than other. But that could be more time driving badly... | |||
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