FabSwingers.com forum: The media and swinging xx

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why do the media think they have the god given right to "expose" people who are doing nothing more than enjoying life??

They seem ta get a kick out of juicy stories aimed at people who dont conform to the "Norm" (whatever the fook that is anyway)

They are saddos that join swinging sites to dish the dirt on people who just actually have a life

Unlike them lol

They must in my opinion lead really sad lives if the only thing they think is worth reporting is law abiding people having fun

Well lets raise a glass ta the saddos and wish them all well

After all they are so dam perfect aint they??

Has anyone noticed how they glorify war and death but decry love and friendship??

Seriously warped in my opinion xx

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

Wow

Soapy, don't sit on the fence

Come on say what your feel

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By *razydriver8Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

hear hear Soapy.

*raising her cup of coco..instead*

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By *acktilMan
over a year ago

Tewkesbury

"Why do the media think they have the god given right to "expose" people who are doing nothing more than enjoying life??

They seem ta get a kick out of juicy stories aimed at people who dont conform to the "Norm" (whatever the fook that is anyway)

They are saddos that join swinging sites to dish the dirt on people who just actually have a life

Unlike them lol

They must in my opinion lead really sad lives if the only thing they think is worth reporting is law abiding people having fun

Well lets raise a glass ta the saddos and wish them all well

After all they are so dam perfect aint they??

Has anyone noticed how they glorify war and death but decry love and friendship??

Seriously warped in my opinion xx

The best ones are those that go to clubs and keep their clothes on. Or, even worse just write a condeming piece without even bothering to vist.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Why do the media think they have the god given right to "expose" people who are doing nothing more than enjoying life??

They seem ta get a kick out of juicy stories aimed at people who dont conform to the "Norm" (whatever the fook that is anyway)

They are saddos that join swinging sites to dish the dirt on people who just actually have a life

Unlike them lol

They must in my opinion lead really sad lives if the only thing they think is worth reporting is law abiding people having fun

Well lets raise a glass ta the saddos and wish them all well

After all they are so dam perfect aint they??

Has anyone noticed how they glorify war and death but decry love and friendship??

Seriously warped in my opinion xx

The best ones are those that go to clubs and keep their clothes on. Or, even worse just write a condeming piece without even bothering to vist.

Omg!!!! There was a man in chams the other day with a sorrow mask on, maybe he was a reporter and I'm gonna be on the news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soapy dear... they haven't a clue about the folk they lie... errr, I mean write a fabricated... errr, I mean a factual story about.

I'm pissed off because the recession grips and I have no decent newspaper to wipe my arse with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Crikey Soapy a lot in that one and I agree for sure about glorifying war and death. But...

the thing is that like it or not the swinging scene is a juicy topic for your tabloid writer.

No matter what we think it is still very much a minority sport, and if you combine it's "out of the ordinaryness" with a titlillating helping of nudity and sex and it's a ready-made topic for sensationalising journos.

Personally I think it's a shame people don't get the real story of what the scene is like and the good people you meet through it.

Bear in mind British hang ups about nudity and sex unfortunately I think the story angles will still be towards demonising and sensationalising the swinging scene.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe a swinggers gagging order , lol never know ,,

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

I tend to agree with Soapy.

Maybe such journo's should be swinging?

"25 Minutes To Go"

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

They are selling to the lowest common denominator,badly. i read a great blog post today (google notalifestyle) where a piece of tabloid journalism close to many here is pulled apart .

The laziness,inaccuracies ,poor writing,and need to create controversy all point to one thing.That when the media has nothing to report,they will happily create a story.

They particualy dislike swinging,imo,because ordinary ppl do it.Celebrities are expected to act outside the conventional rules.However the idea that mr and mrs average dare defy convention is far more troubling to those who would insist we are all the same mindlesss drones.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I tend to agree with Soapy.

Maybe such journo's should be swinging?

"25 Minutes To Go""

I have actually met four of them over the years that do swing lol xx

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By *stwoforfun2Couple
over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

I say fook them xx

Don't know how to enjoy life, after all you only have one life, live and enjoy

Nothing to hide xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we're in danger of misunderstanding their motives.

Most journalists are pretty ordinary working folk who seek to earn a crust by producing something (juicy stories) which their customers will pay them money for.

They don't have a special down on swingers or adulterous footballers or dogging clergymen or whatever - they just want to boost circulation and, if stories about swingers, footballers, doggers or MPs didn't do it - they'd write stories about something else.

None of us in society glorify war or death but, in the main, we accept the concept that certain wars are just whilst others are a bit more dubious. The press just draw firm lines where none exist in order to feed the blood lust of certain parts of society - the bits where their readership live.

As for decrying love and friendship - again that's not wholly true. They're all for love and friendship provided it conforms to what the OP rightly calls the 'norm'. That, for much of society is is of the straightforward male- female heterosexual.

Anything else is simply good copy - especially if they can tie one of the groups I mentioned above into the story.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think we're in danger of misunderstanding their motives.

Most journalists are pretty ordinary working folk who seek to earn a crust by producing something (juicy stories) which their customers will pay them money for.

Anything else is simply good copy - especially if they can tie one of the groups I mentioned above into the story."

Well in my opinion i would rather clean the streets wi a toothbrush fa a job

Than make a career out of making peoples lives a misery

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"I think we're in danger of misunderstanding their motives.

Most journalists are pretty ordinary working folk who seek to earn a crust by producing something (juicy stories) which their customers will pay them money for.

Anything else is simply good copy - especially if they can tie one of the groups I mentioned above into the story."

i think your analysis comes close to "only following orders".Do they create an atmosphere or report it? Yes they have to earn a living,but they choose how to do that.Imagine if woodward and bernstien had been more interested in sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are selling to the lowest common denominator,badly. i read a great blog post today (google notalifestyle) where a piece of tabloid journalism close to many here is pulled apart .

The laziness,inaccuracies ,poor writing,and need to create controversy all point to one thing.That when the media has nothing to report,they will happily create a story.

They don't dislike swinging. Swinging sells newspapers. Adultery sells newspapers. Dogging sells newspapers. Celebrity sells newspapers.

It's almost the case that if swinging didn't exist - they'd have to invent it.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Depends what you class as law abiding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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I don't know if "only following orders" cuts it.

I'd be surprised if an editor says 'get me a swinging story' or 'get me a dogging story'. The instruction might well be to find something salacious that'd be a good front page banner in the event nothing more interesting happens that day.

When the Watergate guys went looking for copy - I doubt they knew (or cared) what kind of story it was going to be.

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By *stwoforfun2Couple
over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

Oh, and dont forget that complete and utter lies also sell newspapers

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

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I don't know if "only following orders" cuts it.

When the Watergate guys went looking for copy - I doubt they knew (or cared) what kind of story it was going to be."

They did know that there were contitutional implications,deep throat had told them.But that is a digression.

If you obey an order to "get something salacious"and accept that facts do not matter you are contributing to the attacks on personal freedom.There are journalist out there who refuse to play this game.But whilst the press pushes an anti sex agenda,peddles lies,creates stories,every journo who contributes is guilty .

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Easy Soapy Stokey Blokey

The media don't give a shit about swingers, wars or any thing of the sort. They have one interest and one interest only... to sell newspapers.

So hands up, who moans about the damage that newspapers do to innocent people but still buy them / read them?

Its actually quite worrying when you think about the fact that millions and millions of people buy the product that keeps them in business and presumably ENJOY reading them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just read some of the press cuttings and its laughable over a flipping social. Great idea though bouncy castle sex parties. It pisses me off have'nt these people got a life or are they hell bent on ruining peoples lives. I did warn them back in January when I had my first Peterborough social that the press were on my case and were infilterating fabs but they chose to ignore me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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...............But whilst the press pushes an anti sex agenda,peddles lies,creates stories,every journo who contributes is guilty ."

We know where we have to look to see where they get that from, don't we?

The Tory-led "Coalition appoints pro-abstinence charity Life to key sexual health forum, while omitting British Pregnancy Advisory Service.

A group which is opposed to abortion in all circumstances and favours an abstinence-based approach to sex education has been appointed to advise the government on sexual health.

The Life organisation has been invited to join a new sexual health forum set up to replace the Independent Advisory Group on Sexual Health and HIV.

Stuart Cowie, Life's head of education, said: "We are delighted to be invited into the group, representing _iews that have not always been around on similar tables in the past."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/24/abortion-sexual-health-coalition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think that all journalists hate swingers and are out to get them. Lets face it sex sells, in any form.

Theres a market for the stories, thats why it continues, who feeds the obsession with swingers, and sex parties and celebrities caught dogging - we do, Joe Public

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think that all journalists hate swingers and are out to get them. Lets face it sex sells, in any form.

Theres a market for the stories, thats why it continues, who feeds the obsession with swingers, and sex parties and celebrities caught dogging - we do, Joe Public

That's exactly. There's no point in taking it personally regardless of much the adverse attention hurts.

It's maybe a timely reminder that, if you're doing something you wouldn't want splashed across the Sunday papers - it's maybe as well not to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Fisking of Adam Aspinall (a journalist so insignificant he doesn’t even get a mention in the Sunday Mercury’s online directory of journalists)

Para 1 – scene setting – just the usual stuff, written as if from a textbook of bad journalism.

Para 2 – here we go guys – “But by night the Grade II listed boozer, just a stone’s throw from two primary schools,”

OK Adam, first of all, were you never taught not to start a sentence with ‘but’? What exactly is the relevance of the two primary schools? Who does throw stones at primary schools? Could it be you’re trying to whip up some prejudice here by linking events that take place when the schools are closed, (‘at night’) to a risk to children? Incidentally, this helpful Google Map shows that a stone thrown from the Crystal Fountain, to reach St Marys Primary School, would have to clear 14 houses and cross two streets. If you can throw a stone that far Mr Aspinall you should be in the Olympics, which might suit you better than journalism.

Para 3 – ‘secret events’ – how are they secret if they’re advertised and re_iewed on swingers websites?

Para 4 – ‘the brewery’ – You tell us in para 3 Mr Aspinall that the pub is owned by Enterprise Inns – they are not a brewery. They’re a property company, the result of the same economic dogma in the 1990s that gave us the most expensive rail system in Europe. They’re doing so well that 82% of their landlords need a discount on the cost of the beer Enterprise buys in from breweries and sell on to them. I know these seem like mere details to you Adam, but you can see why I think you’re not fit to be a journalist. These facts might give you an idea as to why landlords diversify into special events as well Adam.

Para 5 – interesting the way you paraphrase here, and the way you seek to make mountains out of molehills. If you think a no knickers policy is a little risque, I hope you avoid Carnage events if they ever come to a town near you.

Para 6 – enter Cllr Morgan with his wonderful impersonation of Al Murray as the pub landlord. (Here’s a clue Cllr Morgan – Murray does satire, not political commentary.) Did you not think to ask Cllr Morgan if maybe he’s fallen out with the landlords? He does, after all, live just round the corner – barely a stone’s throw away in Adam Aspinall language. How is it that a hard-working well informed local councillor with his ear to the ground had to find out about all this from his local paper? Unless of course he’s not hard-working and not well informed, which would be a different story entirely.

Oh, and sexy shenanigans? That’s just bad writing Adam. Seriously bad writing.

Para 9 – “The Sunday Mercury discovered the couple advertising their sex ‘socials’ on seedy swinging websites.” Now, here’s where the public interest issue gets interesting. If Mindless Morgan, the local councillor, had kicked up a stink about the events at his local pub, you’d have a public interest story. The Mercury though, says it discovered the couple advertising their events on seedy websites. So there was no public interest until the Mercury created it by going looking for a story on a swingers website. Assuming of course that that is what happened, and that Adam Aspinall wasn’t actually looking for some wank fodder when he discovered a story that could give him a front page splash rather than a splash on a tissue.

Once you’ve got that image out of your head I’ll repeat that point again. According to the Mercury there was no public interest in the story until they created it, sexing the story up along the way by dragging kids and schools into the second paragraph via a piece of metaphorical stone throwing that would get Adam Aspinall into the all Palestine ‘lobbing a rock at the Israeli tanks’ elite squad.

Paras 10-13 are mere filler, although they do demonstrate that the people attending the parties are satisfied customers.

Page 2 continues in the same vein. People appear to have liked the parties at the Crystal Fountain. Great news.

Now comes the wonderful moment every journo likes to write.

Paragraph 18 – our journalist goes undercover. Now, you might wonder, why exactly does the journo need to go undercover? He’s got loads of quotes from websites, along with the pic he’s lifted to get some tits on the first page, so why does he need to lie to the pub landlord to bolster his story?

Answer? He doesn’t. It’s about his ego and sexing up the story, not the facts. The story doesn’t stand up otherwise. So we get a few quotes courtesy of the journo’s entirely reliable memory. There’s also a wonderful, and startlingly irrelevant reference to the local Asda just down the road. Proximity to a place of worship used to be a mainstay of these sorts of stories – presumably at the Sunday Mercury the new god is Walmart.

The rest of the story, or the missing parts of the story, sit in the last three paragraphs.

Enterprise Inns say they had a complaint from a member of the public, but the Mercury say they got the story from a swingers website they happened to be perusing. We think it’s more likely that Enterprise got the story when Adam Aspinall phoned up for a quote and that, besides Mindless Morgan, the local councillor, no-one else could be found to give a quote to shore up a feeble story badly told. The story closes, appropriately, with a mind-blowing piece of logic from Cllr Morgan that it’s OK to do these things behind closed doors in a swingers club, but not behind closed doors in a family pub. Well done Cllr Morgan, it’s thinking like that that makes you worth £5000 a year.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Imagine if woodward and bernstien had been more interested in sex?"

Really. Then Monica's blowjob may not have been the first in the Oval Office?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Imagine if woodward and bernstien had been more interested in sex?

Really. Then Monica's blowjob may not have been the first in the Oval Office?"

It'd be surprising if it was the first Oval Office b/j (or more!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets face it, if we saw television ads tomorrow night saying Exclusive - Swinging in the UK - find out the real story behind the seemingly respectable married couples who frequent sex clubs and parties, hear from the increasing number of young single men who instead of a night out with mates, turn to seedy deviant sex clubs to get their kicks, read of the increasing number of straight men who will have sex with other men, hear of the women who will let themselves be degraded by being masturbated on to fulfil their sex addiction, read of the increasing number of swinging internet sites, where like minded people can trade their sordid sex fantasies whilst their innocent child sleep - this Sunday, in the News of the World - dont dare miss it.

Would you buy it, yeah of course you would, so would I

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lets face it, if we saw television ads tomorrow night saying Exclusive - Swinging in the UK - find out the real story behind the seemingly respectable married couples who frequent sex clubs and parties, hear from the increasing number of young single men who instead of a night out with mates, turn to seedy deviant sex clubs to get their kicks, read of the increasing number of straight men who will have sex with other men, hear of the women who will let themselves be degraded by being masturbated on to fulfil their sex addiction, read of the increasing number of swinging internet sites, where like minded people can trade their sordid sex fantasies whilst their innocent child sleep - this Sunday, in the News of the World - dont dare miss it.

Would you buy it, yeah of course you would, so would I

Yeah agreed but they could still have a story but in a positive light xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah agreed but they could still have a story but in a positive light xx

I know Soapy and I wish someone would write a positive story about swinging because there are many many positives, but I dont think it would be as newsworthy as the sexual deviant type line.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe somebody from here should write a book???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah agreed but they could still have a story but in a positive light xx

I know Soapy and I wish someone would write a positive story about swinging because there are many many positives, but I dont think it would be as newsworthy as the sexual deviant type line. "

I, too, feel there are many positives about swinging but doubt I could list them.

Do you, or anyone else, want to try?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

i think the use of the word "fib" suggests that is tongue in cheek.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"Maybe somebody from here should write a book???"

Or a sitcom!

i have toyed with that idea for a while,the difficulty is how explicit to make it(not about names but sex).I see the great potential for a comic novel set around swinging,cos lets face it we have all seen some funny shit.

As for the positives around swinging...

You had to be there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

i think the use of the word "fib" suggests that is tongue in cheek."

I wish I shared your confidence

PS. The 'con' in confidence is there for a reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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As for the positives around swinging...

You had to be there!

That's the problem, innit? Unless you're part of it you simply won't ever get it. That's what the press are using against us.

They're telling the population 'there are people out there having more sex than you and it's wholly unconditional'. The implied question is 'do you think that's right?'.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

i think the use of the word "fib" suggests that is tongue in cheek.

I wish I shared your confidence

PS. The 'con' in confidence is there for a reason

having reread the about,it says very clearly it is anonymous,very common on the interweb.i also follow angrymob and feminazi from hell,both anonymous.The about says they may fib about who they are,i do not see how that affects the content.

But surely this is a distraction from the real point,a blogger in a few paragraphs showed why it was poor and lazy journalism.We do not excuse ppl who cannot do their job in other lines of work,why should the newspaper industry be any different?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

i think the use of the word "fib" suggests that is tongue in cheek.

I wish I shared your confidence

PS. The 'con' in confidence is there for a reason

Kin Tories get everywhere.

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By *andy muncherMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

theres always story sell and someone life to ruin do they care know pound signs is all they see ££££££££ just think next time your talking to someone in club or social you never know thats all i say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

i think the use of the word "fib" suggests that is tongue in cheek.

I wish I shared your confidence

PS. The 'con' in confidence is there for a reason

Because it doesn't have to be. It's lowest common denominator stuff.

What was it they used to say about Sun readers not caring who ran the country so long as they have big tits??????

Actually, we regularly excuse/ ignore non-performers in many walks of life. Nick Clegg? Eric Pickles?

I could go on (but won't).

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

People should consider the implications of the Human Rights Act - from which these injunctions arise.

It guarantees a right to 'privacy' - by which it was meant that the state couldn't poke its nose into your affairs vis a vis the former Soviet Union.

What it means in reality is that people are banned from even gossiping about someone.

Consider this: you hear that someone at work is having an affair and you tell someone else. Fair enough. Under th Human Rights Act, however, you are breaching someone else's right to privacy.

It's easy to attack the media - but do you really want free speech to be curtailed in this way.

I hope not.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Please do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"People should consider the implications of the Human Rights Act - from which these injunctions arise.

It guarantees a right to 'privacy' - by which it was meant that the state couldn't poke its nose into your affairs vis a vis the former Soviet Union.

What it means in reality is that people are banned from even gossiping about someone.

Consider this: you hear that someone at work is having an affair and you tell someone else. Fair enough. Under th Human Rights Act, however, you are breaching someone else's right to privacy.

It's easy to attack the media - but do you really want free speech to be curtailed in this way.

I hope not."

When so called media free speech entails mistruths and inaccurate information for sheer sensationalism then i would question it yes xx

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

There is an important principle though. What if a company or person gets an injunction to keep something from the public simply because they wouldn't like something to be known.

Should that be permissible?

The test to which journalists - and all of us gossips - should be held is whether something is true or not. Nothing more.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"People should consider the implications of the Human Rights Act - from which these injunctions arise.

It guarantees a right to 'privacy' - by which it was meant that the state couldn't poke its nose into your affairs vis a vis the former Soviet Union.

What it means in reality is that people are banned from even gossiping about someone.

Consider this: you hear that someone at work is having an affair and you tell someone else. Fair enough. Under th Human Rights Act, however, you are breaching someone else's right to privacy.

It's easy to attack the media - but do you really want free speech to be curtailed in this way.

I hope not.

When so called media free speech entails mistruths and inaccurate information for sheer sensationalism then i would question it yes xx

Oh yeah, mistruths like "nite all" then sneaks in here huh

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over a year ago

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

I am one of the authors on that blog.

I have been done over by the press before, and I would lose my job if some of the stuff I say and do became public. That's why I fib by omission, by not saying who I am.

If you want to criticize the writing on the blog, go ahead. If you want to criticize our slant on the dire state of British local journalism, go ahead. It'd be nice to have a debate on journalism, churnalism and manufactured stories if you're up for it. But a cheap shot about the blog saying we 'fib' about our biogs? That's not contributing to the debate.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"Maybe somebody from here should write a book???

Or a sitcom!

As for the positives around swinging...

You had to be there!

Have a look for an old book by William Donaldson called 'Both The Ladies And The Gentlemen'. There's a copy on Abebooks for about £2.50 all in.

Donaldson was also the author of the Henry Root Letters, but 'Both the Ladies...' was a very funny semi autobiographical novel about his adventures trying to run swingers parties in 70s London.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But why should swinging be seen as dirty or seedy we are not living in the dark ages we are all consenting adults.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

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"But why should swinging be seen as dirty or seedy we are not living in the dark ages we are all consenting adults. "

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish more people would be open minded and less sexually frustrated/judgemental at the end of the day you see more trouble coming out of a pub or nightclub than you ever do coming out of a swingers club because we are all blissed out. One of the things that pees me off going in to town is you either get a load of young idiots who are high or cant hold their drink and looking for a fight or get a bunch of foreign gits who think its ok to pore you all night long.

Plus in a swingers club you are all there for the same reason to have a good time and thats what a night out is for me.

How many times do you go in to a normal pub/nightclub chat up a girl all night she gives you te come on you by her and her mates drinks all night only for them to bugger off at the end of the night.

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over a year ago

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

I am one of the authors on that blog.

I have been done over by the press before, and I would lose my job if some of the stuff I say and do became public. That's why I fib by omission, by not saying who I am.

For the avoidance of doubt. It isn't ME who's saying you 'fib' on your blog - the quote

I lifted is from the blog itself. It's the authors of the blog who acknowledge that they may fib and, whilst I admire their honestly as far as it goes, it might be better just to tell the truth in the first place and not have to caveat any contribution by saying 'you can't always believe what we write'

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over a year ago

"But why should swinging be seen as dirty or seedy we are not living in the dark ages we are all consenting adults. "

WE'RE not (living in the Dark Ages) but THEY are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But why should swinging be seen as dirty or seedy we are not living in the dark ages we are all consenting adults.

WE'RE not (living in the Dark Ages) but THEY are."

Thats my point

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It is about sales, sales and more sales.

nothing more and nothing less.

and we build up The Sun, The Mirror, The News of the World etc etc by making them Britains most popular..

sadly, you reap what you sow...

Not the reporters, the editors.. BUT THE BUYING PUBLIC.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

I am one of the authors on that blog.

I have been done over by the press before, and I would lose my job if some of the stuff I say and do became public. That's why I fib by omission, by not saying who I am.

For the avoidance of doubt. It isn't ME who's saying you 'fib' on your blog - the quote

Which bit of 'I am one of the authors on that blog' did you not understand?

As I said, you're welcome to point out the ways in which a nom de plume and a light hearted biog distract from the case made against the Sunday Mercury.

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over a year ago

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

I am one of the authors on that blog.

I have been done over by the press before, and I would lose my job if some of the stuff I say and do became public. That's why I fib by omission, by not saying who I am.

For the avoidance of doubt. It isn't ME who's saying you 'fib' on your blog - the quote

Which bit of 'I am one of the authors on that blog' did you not understand?

As I said, you're welcome to point out the ways in which a nom de plume and a light hearted biog distract from the case made against the Sunday Mercury."

Who does or doesn't write the blog is of little interest. The point I hoped I'd made is that the authors accept the fact they may fib.

It may be a trifle old fashioned of me but I'd prefer it if they told the truth. The content might be less entertaining but at least we could trust it.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"The (now missing) link to the wordpress blog thingy carries the footnote "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib."

Fib! Really?

Hardly reassuring

I am one of the authors on that blog.

I have been done over by the press before, and I would lose my job if some of the stuff I say and do became public. That's why I fib by omission, by not saying who I am.

For the avoidance of doubt. It isn't ME who's saying you 'fib' on your blog - the quote

Which bit of 'I am one of the authors on that blog' did you not understand?

As I said, you're welcome to point out the ways in which a nom de plume and a light hearted biog distract from the case made against the Sunday Mercury.

Who does or doesn't write the blog is of little interest. The point I hoped I'd made is that the authors accept the fact they may fib.

It may be a trifle old fashioned of me but I'd prefer it if they told the truth. The content might be less entertaining but at least we could trust it."

I'm sorry, but you've quoted the blog out of context and are using that out of context quote to attack the blog. I wonder why that is?

You made a fairly impassioned defence of journalists further up the thread, but you've ducked the key issue in the criticism of the Sunday Mercury article, which is that the journo involved was making the news, nor reporting it, on a topic which might have excited a certain public prurience, but no genuine public interest.

That's enough said about this topic really - if you want to engage with the arguments instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks, that's fine by me.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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Truth!!

from the media, next people will expect all Politicians and estate agents to be open and honest.

most 'journalists' in this country are so obsessed with 'celebrity' real news has been forgotten.

then again it sells and that probably says more about society than anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry, but you've quoted the blog out of context and are using that out of context quote to attack the blog. I wonder why that is? "

Bollox. I quoted the passage about "This is a team blog. Over time the team will list their pen names and biogs here. They may fib." in its entirety, made it clear it's a quote and quoted the source (although I accept that had been deleted). If the passage doesn't read as the authors intended - that isn't down to me.

" You made a fairly impassioned defence of journalists further up the thread, but you've ducked the key issue in the criticism of the Sunday Mercury article, which is that the journo involved was making the news, nor reporting it, on a topic which might have excited a certain public prurience, but no genuine public interest.

That's enough said about this topic really - if you want to engage with the arguments instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks, that's fine by me."

I'm sorry you feel personally picked upon. That wasn't my intent. If you hadn't claimed part ownership of the blog I'd have been none the wiser.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

I'm sorry, but you've quoted the blog out of context and are using that out of context quote to attack the blog. I wonder why that is?

That's enough said about this topic really - if you want to engage with the arguments instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks, that's fine by me.

I'm sorry you feel personally picked upon. That wasn't my intent. If you hadn't claimed part ownership of the blog I'd have been none the wiser.

In other words it is an ad hominem attack. It's a reference to the blog authors fibbing in their biogs, that's why it's on a separate page away from the opinions that make up the main blog.

To give the rest of the world some of the flavour of the biogs, one of the authors suggests she has the body of Marilyn Monroe (which is impossible, if we're being strictly accurate) and another says "In dark moments I wish I was a cross between Jack Parlabane and Jack Carter; in really dark moments I fear I don’t know the difference.." which is clearly a fiction since it references two fictional characters. But you distort that admission that the biographies might be a little playful (and arch, and a wee bit camp) into an attack on the reliability of an article that you refuse to engage with. Interesting tactics that.

I've invited you twice to debate the issues the blog raises, and you won't. I wonder why that is?

Better still, have a go at the factual basis of the blog's criticism of the Sunday Mercury. That'd move this forward...

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over a year ago

I'm sorry, but you've quoted the blog out of context and are using that out of context quote to attack the blog. I wonder why that is?

That's enough said about this topic really - if you want to engage with the arguments instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks, that's fine by me.

I'm sorry you feel personally picked upon. That wasn't my intent. If you hadn't claimed part ownership of the blog I'd have been none the wiser.

In other words it is an ad hominem attack. It's a reference to the blog authors fibbing in their biogs, that's why it's on a separate page away from the opinions that make up the main blog.

................."

I confess I don't recall where the reference to fibbing was placed but I accept your assertion that it was on a separate page.

I'm just not sure why they felt the need to hide it.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

I'm sorry, but you've quoted the blog out of context and are using that out of context quote to attack the blog. I wonder why that is?

That's enough said about this topic really - if you want to engage with the arguments instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks, that's fine by me.

I'm sorry you feel personally picked upon. That wasn't my intent. If you hadn't claimed part ownership of the blog I'd have been none the wiser.

In other words it is an ad hominem attack. It's a reference to the blog authors fibbing in their biogs, that's why it's on a separate page away from the opinions that make up the main blog.

.................

I confess I don't recall where the reference to fibbing was placed but I accept your assertion that it was on a separate page.

I'm just not sure why they felt the need to hide it."

In what way is it hidden? It's on the page it's relevant to.

So you still don't want to engage with the the main thrust on that blog article? Why is that?

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over a year ago

Omg!!!! There was a man in chams the other day with a sorrow mask on, maybe he was a reporter and I'm gonna be on the news

I must admit the thought entered my head when we saw him there. He even walked out of the club still masked.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

The press/media are only interested in stories..anything that grabs the attention of the reader..journos are absolute masters as 'implying' twisting and bending the truth into what they feel makes good reading..

Remember they have 'sources' and 'insiders' close to the swinging community

It absolutely kills me when newspapers do these 'exposes' about the disgusting seedy goings on..how swinger perform their perverted acts, the drugs, the debauchery, ...and yet carry adds for wash and wank parlous and ahem, 'escorts' within there papers..

Check your profiles people you may need/want to edit them, as in the eyes of the media swinging...

Single guys...perverted loners, probably live with their mums, and have a camouflage style keyboard and a criminal past...dangerous

Single fems...perverted nutty slutty loners who are just trying to lure vulnerable men...probably dangerous also

Heavily Tattooed men ...violent

Heavily Tattooed women...attention seekers..probably violent

Swinging couples...Just perverts

Bi swinging couples...digusting perverts

Swinging couples 50+...Disgusting Old perverts

There you go...

Now..we dont swing, not our scene, but equally nor is lazy judgemental prevaricated journalism..

And we dont like seeing people such as yourselve being picked on..xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Omg!!!! There was a man in chams the other day with a sorrow mask on, maybe he was a reporter and I'm gonna be on the news

I must admit the thought entered my head when we saw him there. He even walked out of the club still masked."

Mmm i wonder if it was the same one at the red white and blue socila too

He had a mask on all night xx

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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Balanced reporting doesn't bring in the big bucks.

The gutter press print what society expects them to print.

Society loves the finger pointing, the dirty secrets, the gossip, the affairs, the sneering.

People who buy tabloids are just as much to blame as those who print them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Balanced reporting doesn't bring in the big bucks.

The gutter press print what society expects them to print.

Society loves the finger pointing, the dirty secrets, the gossip, the affairs, the sneering.

People who buy tabloids are just as much to blame as those who print them."

Agreed on the buying bit its quite true

However the bull of some reporters that unless they print juicy, the papers wont sell is crap

If all the papers printed nice positive balanced reading instead of the inane half made up drivel then people would still buy the papers cause that's all they would be able ta read

I ain't saying don't put things in the negative cause sometimes ya need too

What i am saying is don't sensationalise and bull it up with lies and mistruths xx

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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If all the papers printed nice positive balanced reading instead of the inane half made up drivel then people would still buy the papers cause that's all they would be able ta read..."

People have a choice and the masses currently choose to buy the rags which dish the dirt.

Look at the magazine world.... people choose to buy the mags which show who's fat, who broke up ans dished the dirt and other shite.

People could choose to stop buying them now, but they don't. There are alternatives available right now, but the money still rings through the tills to find out who has a dirty secret.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

I dont read newspapers anymore for all of the above reasons...

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