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"What are we kissing and how are we having sex? French kissing, ass kissing, inner thigh kissing? Are we having doggy style sex or missionary? Doggy vaginal or anal? Too much ambiguity ![]() I was more talking about french saxophonist kissing | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak." I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? | |||
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"Kissing is much more intimate than sex for me. I wouldn't kiss someone I met in a club. Ideally, it can then be combined with sex to increase that intimacy. It is frustrating if you the intimacy of kissing and want it to lead to more and it doesn't. ![]() ![]() ![]() Sex, doesn't require much skills...to a certain extent. I know it certainly does but not as much as kissing. Hencd why I was wondering if I wad the only to think that. | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? " Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. | |||
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"I personally think kissing is very intimate, you are face to face, looking I to each other's eyes, breathing each other's breath, holding each other close, hell yes kissing is intimate ![]() I always have my eyes closed when actually kissing, don't think I've ever even tried kissing with my eyes open as they close naturally. I'm going to have to give it a go now ![]() | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me." I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. " Oh, I agree. That's not what I meant. I only have sex and kiss people I get on with. I meant it in more of an emotionally important way, if that makes sense? | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. " Same here. That's why I find kissing more intimate than sex, and if the both can be combined it is even better. I guess there is having sex and making love. One doesn't require kissing the other do. | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. Oh, I agree. That's not what I meant. I only have sex and kiss people I get on with. I meant it in more of an emotionally important way, if that makes sense? " Yes definitely it does | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it." You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. Oh, I agree. That's not what I meant. I only have sex and kiss people I get on with. I meant it in more of an emotionally important way, if that makes sense? " It does. I suppose not kissing is one of my protections to stop me getting too much into someone. | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it. You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? " I've been trying to write something to agree with you and you've sort of gone and done it for me. Kisses can make my heart skip a beat. I've never experienced sex that does. On an animal level, sex is needed to procreate - it is something we are programmed to do it. Kissing is an expression of giving yourself to someone - mostly. In my head that makes sense anyway. | |||
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"Would you say that kissing is way more intimate than having sex ? " no | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it. You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? I've been trying to write something to agree with you and you've sort of gone and done it for me. Kisses can make my heart skip a beat. I've never experienced sex that does. On an animal level, sex is needed to procreate - it is something we are programmed to do it. Kissing is an expression of giving yourself to someone - mostly. In my head that makes sense anyway." That makes absolute sense to me. | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it. You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? I've been trying to write something to agree with you and you've sort of gone and done it for me. Kisses can make my heart skip a beat. I've never experienced sex that does. On an animal level, sex is needed to procreate - it is something we are programmed to do it. Kissing is an expression of giving yourself to someone - mostly. In my head that makes sense anyway." In mine as well ![]() | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. Same here. That's why I find kissing more intimate than sex, and if the both can be combined it is even better. I guess there is having sex and making love. One doesn't require kissing the other do. " Do people actually make love when swinging? To me, making love is when romance and strong emotions are involved. I never make love. | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. Same here. That's why I find kissing more intimate than sex, and if the both can be combined it is even better. I guess there is having sex and making love. One doesn't require kissing the other do. Do people actually make love when swinging? To me, making love is when romance and strong emotions are involved. I never make love. " Oh I can, if I am highly attracted to the person, especially the face. I mean my way of having sex with that person would be more intimate, passionate and sensuous. | |||
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"... I guess there is having sex and making love. One doesn't require kissing the other do. Do people actually make love when swinging? To me, making love is when romance and strong emotions are involved. I never make love. " That's a whole different thread... but, yes, I have at times with those I have met often. | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it. You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? " Yes of course. But that was because of the person, not the physical act. | |||
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"... I guess there is having sex and making love. One doesn't require kissing the other do. Do people actually make love when swinging? To me, making love is when romance and strong emotions are involved. I never make love. That's a whole different thread... but, yes, I have at times with those I have met often. " Yep different thread, but I enjoy making love with someone other than my husband. Only occasionally. It's the ultimate in kink to dabble with that sort of thing ![]() | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it. You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? I've been trying to write something to agree with you and you've sort of gone and done it for me. Kisses can make my heart skip a beat. I've never experienced sex that does. On an animal level, sex is needed to procreate - it is something we are programmed to do it. Kissing is an expression of giving yourself to someone - mostly. In my head that makes sense anyway." I get what you mean, but for me I've felt closer, more connected and more "given" to someone at the point of orgasm with them than just through a kiss. No physical act means anything to me unless the person means something to me. However, happily kisses and sex are not something I have to choose between. I tend not to have one without the other. | |||
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"I love kissing. Absolutely love it. But I don't personally think it's more intimate than having sex. I think they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak. I totally get that. Was just wondering as most people, included me, can have sex without kissing, I mean properly kissing, if and when they are with the right person, kissing make it way more intimate than just having sex without kissing. Does it make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. I personally don't really enjoy sex much without kissing but that's because I like it as a sex act, not for the intimacy. For me what makes sex more intimate is how well I get along with the person I'm with - how well we know each other, etc. Kissing alone isn't enough to increase intimacy, just enjoyment. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that's how it is for me. I can't kiss someone I don't get on with; I have to build that trust before I enjoy kissing. I can get enjoyment from mechanical, friction sex but not mechanical kissing. Same here. That's why I find kissing more intimate than sex, and if the both can be combined it is even better. I guess there is having sex and making love. One doesn't require kissing the other do. Do people actually make love when swinging? To me, making love is when romance and strong emotions are involved. I never make love. Oh I can, if I am highly attracted to the person, especially the face. I mean my way of having sex with that person would be more intimate, passionate and sensuous. " I suppose everyone's definition of making love is different. I do intimate, passionate and sensuous but I still wouldn't say it's making love. But then don't ask me to explain what I would say making love is, as I'm not sure I could lol | |||
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"No, not unless you imbue it with more emotional significance. Just like sex. I kissed loads of lads in nightclubs as a teenager, none of it had any significance or intimacy to it. You never kissed someone and really felt close to them? Through the way they kiss ? As if he/she could understand you ? I've been trying to write something to agree with you and you've sort of gone and done it for me. Kisses can make my heart skip a beat. I've never experienced sex that does. On an animal level, sex is needed to procreate - it is something we are programmed to do it. Kissing is an expression of giving yourself to someone - mostly. In my head that makes sense anyway. I get what you mean, but for me I've felt closer, more connected and more "given" to someone at the point of orgasm with them than just through a kiss. No physical act means anything to me unless the person means something to me. However, happily kisses and sex are not something I have to choose between. I tend not to have one without the other. " I can see it from that side and I guess, from a woman's POV, letting a man in to your body requires a level of trust and is a very intimate act. Nice to have the discussion here though so thanks OP | |||
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"The physical act of kissing is no more intimate for me than the physical act of having sex. How I feel about the person creates the intimacy." ![]() | |||
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"The physical act of kissing is no more intimate for me than the physical act of having sex. How I feel about the person creates the intimacy. ![]() I'll add that both sex and kissing without intimacy feel more mechanical for me and much less satisfying. | |||
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"Would you say that kissing is way more intimate than having sex ? " yes I don't kiss it's to personal for me | |||
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"slight change of subject- but humour makes things more intimite for me... or maybe it is that if I feel close enough to someone I can have a laugh... if that makes sense...sex and kissing can be done with or without any feelings. but sex with someone you enjoy kissing and can then smile and make a silly joke... something else... " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"slight change of subject- but humour makes things more intimite for me... or maybe it is that if I feel close enough to someone I can have a laugh... if that makes sense...sex and kissing can be done with or without any feelings. but sex with someone you enjoy kissing and can then smile and make a silly joke... something else... ![]() ![]() I agree with that, not something i'd ever thought of though ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. " Thank you for sharing that. With the ex who got me into this, I knew he was drifting away from me when he stopped kissing me. | |||
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"The physical act of kissing is no more intimate for me than the physical act of having sex. How I feel about the person creates the intimacy." Spot on ![]() | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. Thank you for sharing that. With the ex who got me into this, I knew he was drifting away from me when he stopped kissing me." Can relate to this ![]() | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. Thank you for sharing that. With the ex who got me into this, I knew he was drifting away from me when he stopped kissing me." I know the feeling ![]() | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. " I wonder if that's because sex can be quite animalistic, almost detached, going through the motion that kind of thing? Kissing like you mean it, harder to fake....maybe? | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. I wonder if that's because sex can be quite animalistic, almost detached, going through the motion that kind of thing? Kissing like you mean it, harder to fake....maybe?" Also with sex you can more or less imagine you are doing it with someone else. Not so much with kissing | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. Thank you for sharing that. With the ex who got me into this, I knew he was drifting away from me when he stopped kissing me." My husband stopped kissing me before we were married. It was doomed from the start. I don't confuse intimacy with emotions. I can be intimate with someone I'm not in love with or have feelings for. | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. I wonder if that's because sex can be quite animalistic, almost detached, going through the motion that kind of thing? Kissing like you mean it, harder to fake....maybe?" Yes i felt like the woman i mentioned kissing techniques seemed somewhat not real ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I was with someone new a few weeks ago, good fuk but when she kissed me i almost dissapeared, i actually thought omfg shes an alien trying to suck me in " This made me chuckle ![]() | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off!" ![]() | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off! ![]() I couldn't go any further with someone if we weren't compatible kissing wise. | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off! ![]() Then you get a really good kisser. The one you could roll around on the bed kissing for ages ![]() | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off! ![]() ![]() Yes, that's my favourite kind of sex; kiss, slip it in, kiss during, kiss afterwards, then get in gear for the next round never breaking the kiss except when the position calls for it | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off! ![]() ![]() Yes ![]() | |||
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"I love to kiss, but do I find it more intimate? Not really. I couldn't have sex without a bit of kissing thrown in there somewhere." Unlike the OP...I'm with you on this. Kissing without sex can work Sex without kissing? That's like a bacon and egg sarnie without the brown sauce! It's just not complete! | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off! ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh hell yeah, completely my kinda sex described right there! | |||
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"For me kissing is part of the foreplay Bad kissing puts me right off! ![]() I'd find it very difficult to do so...although can be a little difficult to back out of when meeting in clubs.. | |||
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"I was with someone new a few weeks ago, good fuk but when she kissed me i almost dissapeared, i actually thought omfg shes an alien trying to suck me in " She doesn't love in Weymouth does she?bif so, I think I know her.... ![]() | |||
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"No snogging, no sex. I've called off meets because they can't kiss. I honestly think I'd prefer a night of good snogging over sex. Then again, good snogging frequently turns into good sex ![]() oh heck yes | |||
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"I think you have all exhausted the topic, but to throw my 2 cents in kissing will always be more intimate for me. In my last relationship my partner hurt me quite bad, we were together for a long while afterwards. We'd still have sex but I just couldn't bring myself to kiss her. You'd think there was nothing to it but I just couldn't.. " Oh yes, I completely understand what you mean. | |||
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"I think I agree with F&B that there is definitely a deep feeling of a connection on a more intimate level when you kiss with another that you gel with. And it's a really reciprocal kiss, if you know what I mean? There a frisson of excitement and almost tangible electricity between you both (sorry if this sounds a lil bit cliché) that makes you tingle and feel the flurry of wings in your belly. Or something like that ![]() Exactly like this. Also when you can't look at someone because you know as soon as your lips touch it's going to explode ![]() | |||
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"Passionate kissing is something I adore, probably more than sex, although it often leads to fabulous sex. I can enjoy kissing without sex, but not sex without kissing x" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I wouldn't say kissing was more intimate than fucking like when people say that don't like to kiss during meets it kind of baffles me that they'll have sex with someone but see kissing as 'too intimate'. Of course everyone has preferences and opinions and I'm not saying its wrong or weird, it's just something I don't quite understand. " I'm totally with you on this. | |||
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