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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not on my account

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never been to McDonald's.

They can ban burgers if they want. I don't eat them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never been to McDonald's.

They can ban burgers if they want. I don't eat them. "

It does look like a G on the topic list!!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never been to McDonald's.

They can ban burgers if they want. I don't eat them. "

Hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought "

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!"

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times "

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I imagine I'd get a similar response to my clothing choices if I were a teacher.

Just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I imagine I'd get a similar response to my clothing choices if I were a teacher.

Just a thought. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be happier seeing someone's face than a glimpse of their eyes through a slit. Cultural choice or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it makes sense why they wear one, even if it's for religious reasons.

i think in the online day and age, where people don't communicate by face most of the time anyway, this shouldn't be an issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would be happier seeing someone's face than a glimpse of their eyes through a slit. Cultural choice or not. "

But that also is a cultural choice on your part. In western culture it is the norm to look at someone's face when talking to them. However, if you go to Islamic countries this is not the case and most of the times the persons gaze is lowered.

The choice to wear a burqa may be cultural but the choice to also look at ones face when talking to them is also cultural.

Just another thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice... "

A cultural choice..... a possessive man with 7 wives...........

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Have never interacted with someone wearing one but I think it may unnerve me if it was in a professional capacity

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Blind people have no choice but to communicate without seeing a persons face ....

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By *sliceoflifeMan
over a year ago

Hell on earth

Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blind people have no choice but to communicate without seeing a persons face ...."

Hardly the same is it ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Blind people have no choice but to communicate without seeing a persons face ....

Hardly the same is it ?"

Are you asking or telling...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x"

I'm claiming this as a reply to me even if it isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't by really mind then wearing it as I would not really look at them anyway but I would expect them to not wear it in shops or any places of business.

If I walked into a shop,bank or caffe wearing a balaclava or crash helmet then would expect to have to remove it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x"

that's the point in wearing one though, to retain modesty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times "

Im still working out my opinion on this, but if you want to ban a cultural garment from school, logic dictates you must make schools completely secular and nutral in regards to religion and culture.

This would mean getting rid of church schools and other faith schools...ban religious celebration in schools.

That sits fine with me, I think schools should be taught in an objective philosophical and atheist format. However, I get the feeling that many British people wouldnt like a part of 'their own culture' being excluded from primary education.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't ban it but Should be restricted in certain places like helmet and face covering. Don't understand why women feel offended when asked to show their faces.

Some people actually go over the top and over do it sometimes, culture or not culture. In Islamic religion a woman doesn't have to go all ninja. She is allowed to show her face. Unless she is really really ugly and has something to hide.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice...

A cultural choice..... a possessive man with 7 wives..........."

Some very strong independent women will say it's there choice to wear a burka. Just like some very strong and independent women choose not to.

It's no surprise that Merkel has proposed this. Isn't there a backlash against refugees in Germany following its open door policy and isn't she up for election next year?

Anyway, if we did ban the burka does that pave the way for us banning jeans being worn below the waist?

Ban the gillet? They offend me too!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Some people make a personal choice to hide / mask their faces on here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x

that's the point in wearing one though, to retain modesty."

Angelina Jolie: “The sun doesn’t lose its beauty when covered by the clouds. The same way your beauty doesn’t fade when being covered by Hijab"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x

that's the point in wearing one though, to retain modesty.

Angelina Jolie: “The sun doesn’t lose its beauty when covered by the clouds. The same way your beauty doesn’t fade when being covered by Hijab""

must be nice not being judged for your looks also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x

that's the point in wearing one though, to retain modesty.

Angelina Jolie: “The sun doesn’t lose its beauty when covered by the clouds. The same way your beauty doesn’t fade when being covered by Hijab"

must be nice not being judged for your looks also."

Pretty certain the wearers get judged for the way they look in this country though.

I'd say they must be pretty brave to walk down a British high street.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your clothes choices are no ones business but your own and at least your choices don't hide your natural beauty x

that's the point in wearing one though, to retain modesty.

Angelina Jolie: “The sun doesn’t lose its beauty when covered by the clouds. The same way your beauty doesn’t fade when being covered by Hijab"

must be nice not being judged for your looks also.

Pretty certain the wearers get judged for the way they look in this country though.

I'd say they must be pretty brave to walk down a British high street. "

yeah but they're only being judged for wearing something, not their actual looks as a person.

still being judged though, i get what you mean.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought "

That's ridiculous. I don't care if she wears one or not as long as my child is being properly educated and respected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people in suits have done way more damage to the world than people in burkas. ban the suit.

or not..it's just clothes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would be happier seeing someone's face than a glimpse of their eyes through a slit. Cultural choice or not.

But that also is a cultural choice on your part. In western culture it is the norm to look at someone's face when talking to them. However, if you go to Islamic countries this is not the case and most of the times the persons gaze is lowered.

The choice to wear a burqa may be cultural but the choice to also look at ones face when talking to them is also cultural.

Just another thought "

I did not know that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

That's ridiculous. I don't care if she wears one or not as long as my child is being properly educated and respected. "

There are a lot of loonies out there, a burka ( blatant disguise ) will give them an opportunity to cause all kinds of havoc. The burka will be banned, facial recognition software will be everywhere in the future, we will all have to conform it's inevitable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's"

I apologies for my poor spelling, obviously that pipe smoke stopped me learning to write lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all honesty, I couldn't care less. Fair enough, they should have to remove anything covering their face at airports etc, but other than that, wear what you like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

That's ridiculous. I don't care if she wears one or not as long as my child is being properly educated and respected.

There are a lot of loonies out there, a burka ( blatant disguise ) will give them an opportunity to cause all kinds of havoc. The burka will be banned, facial recognition software will be everywhere in the future, we will all have to conform it's inevitable "

You've hit the nail on the head there. We are being manipulated into allowing the banning, because it pushes us ever closer to being a totally controlled nanny state!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's"

there will always be some race or religion it's fashionable for people to point their fingers at and say 'that's the bad guy'

people like the black and white simplicity of the good guy, bad guy split they create in their own minds i think.

simple thinking for simple folk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath. "

Exactly ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

That's ridiculous. I don't care if she wears one or not as long as my child is being properly educated and respected.

There are a lot of loonies out there, a burka ( blatant disguise ) will give them an opportunity to cause all kinds of havoc. The burka will be banned, facial recognition software will be everywhere in the future, we will all have to conform it's inevitable "

There are far more loonies spreading hate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's

there will always be some race or religion it's fashionable for people to point their fingers at and say 'that's the bad guy'

people like the black and white simplicity of the good guy, bad guy split they create in their own minds i think.

simple thinking for simple folk. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you want your children being tAught by someone in a baraclava , !!!!

Not much difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would you want your children being tAught by someone in a baraclava , !!!!

Not much difference"

Yes why not, if he/she teaches how to respect other and not judge other by the choice of their clothes, I wouldn't mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would you want your children being tAught by someone in a baraclava , !!!!

Not much difference"

honestly?

if someone was a pastafarian and wanted to teach with a colander on their head i'd be ok with that.

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By *sliceoflifeMan
over a year ago

Hell on earth

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Would you want your children being tAught by someone in a baraclava , !!!!

Not much difference"

What colour balaclava and would it have pom-poms and matching gloves ....

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By *bjones1000Man
over a year ago

exeter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would you want your children being tAught by someone in a baraclava , !!!!

Not much difference"

i'd love phonejacker to teach my kids!!

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By *bjones1000Man
over a year ago

exeter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would you want your children being tAught by someone in a baraclava , !!!!

Not much difference

What colour balaclava and would it have pom-poms and matching gloves .... "

fabaclava!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

has anyone actually got any examples of crimes that would have been avoided if facial coverings were banned? i bet if there are any they'll be few and far between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It'll never happen because of human rights and it's a personal choice ?

My drama is what would happen if we went to a burqa wearing country but women didn't want to wear them ?

Would they be forced too ?

Would that be against their human rights or just told to get on with it ??

Seems a one sided thing but that is all down to how people's rights are treated within certain countries??

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

I'm against banning per se, people should be allowed by law to wear what they want to (security stuff such as airports/banks excepted).

BUT. I also feel other people should be not be forced to interact with someone if they don't like their clothing choices.

For example, one could choose not to frequent a shop where the server wore a burqua and I feel the shopkeeper should have the same right. It's not skin colour, it's a choice. And all choices have consequences.

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over a year ago


"Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath. "

Anyone could be hiding in plain _iew too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It'll never happen because of human rights and it's a personal choice ?

My drama is what would happen if we went to a burqa wearing country but women didn't want to wear them ?

Would they be forced too ?

Would that be against their human rights or just told to get on with it ??

Seems a one sided thing but that is all down to how people's rights are treated within certain countries?? "

Sounds very much like The Handmaid's Tale?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm against banning per se, people should be allowed by law to wear what they want to (security stuff such as airports/banks excepted).

BUT. I also feel other people should be not be forced to interact with someone if they don't like their clothing choices.

For example, one could choose not to frequent a shop where the server wore a burqua and I feel the shopkeeper should have the same right. It's not skin colour, it's a choice. And all choices have consequences. "

It's a personal choice for the person using the shop but the shop owner doesn't have the same rights ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It'll never happen because of human rights and it's a personal choice ?

My drama is what would happen if we went to a burqa wearing country but women didn't want to wear them ?

Would they be forced too ?

Would that be against their human rights or just told to get on with it ??

Seems a one sided thing but that is all down to how people's rights are treated within certain countries??

Sounds very much like The Handmaid's Tale?"

Wish I new that one ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath.

Anyone could be hiding in plain _iew too?"

people like someone they can point at though...they like their bad guys to be distinguishable. makes it easier for their little brains to spot them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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must be nice not being judged for your looks also.

Pretty certain the wearers get judged for the way they look in this country though.

I'd say they must be pretty brave to walk down a British high street. "

Honestly, I got dared to wear one once about 8 years ago and then go out in London. I also on several occasions when I had like a face mask or something on and needed to pop to the shops made a makeshift one out of a scarf and left my house.

It wasn't an issue and no one battered and eyelid or even cared. I didn't need to be brave because there were no judgements or looks.

But I think its all changed in the recent years and if I tried to do the same social experiment now it won't be met with the same behaviour.

It's upsetting. I think they are brave and have every right to do as they please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd ban it.

But then there's lots of other cultural/religious practises I'd ban as well....

.

We ban and restrict alcohol, smoking, drugs, driving, sex, walking around naked, profanity, porn, hoodies, crash helmets...

Some of them I quite like, so fuck it the burka can go room 101

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would be happier seeing someone's face than a glimpse of their eyes through a slit. Cultural choice or not.

But that also is a cultural choice on your part. In western culture it is the norm to look at someone's face when talking to them. However, if you go to Islamic countries this is not the case and most of the times the persons gaze is lowered.

The choice to wear a burqa may be cultural but the choice to also look at ones face when talking to them is also cultural.

Just another thought

I did not know that. "

Yep, I spent a big chunk of my childhood in the middle east, so I absorbed the practice of avoiding eye contact - as its seen as the correct etiquette, especially in hierarchical situations.

On my return to the UK I was often misinterpreted as being passive, disrespectful or 'shifty'

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I don;t think I've ever eaten a Big Mac.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll say it again. The argument should not be an us vs them.

It should about how our western values of being free from religion, but free to practice religion if we wish, interact with matters to security an identification.

My opinion is that if the argument is that people wearing the Burqa could, cause a risk, then fair enough. But lets see the stats on how many burqa wearers have, in western countries, committed religiously motivated attacks of any form.

When it comes to the issue of 'perhaps burqas are not fit to be used in public institutions, eg, schools, government, transport ect. Then fair enough, there are I.D issues. Simple solution is do not allow it within the confines of those institutions.

However what does for one cultural/religious garment must go for another, there can be no cherry picking in secular governments.

As for outside the confines of those institutions, the burqa should be allowed to be worn in public spaces eg, parks, and in the private confines of the home or religious building.

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By *poolnerveycoupleCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Lol

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's"
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Whow whow whow whow..... Firstly mister political correctness, what's with labeling Irish d*unks!!.... Let's reverse that lots of my family are Muslims and none are terrorists, sexist racists, yes but.. .

Secondly why did the guys wife suddenly have to start wearing a hijab once she married a Muslim?...I thought people on here said it was a cultural choice of Islamic women?

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By *un4allxMan
over a year ago

Arkley


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice... "

It's not a choice it's part of an oppressive regime.

I say ban it.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's.

Whow whow whow whow..... Firstly mister political correctness, what's with labeling Irish d*unks!!.... Let's reverse that lots of my family are Muslims and none are terrorists, sexist racists, yes but.. .

Secondly why did the guys wife suddenly have to start wearing a hijab once she married a Muslim?...I thought people on here said it was a cultural choice of Islamic women?"

You're distorting his analogy - it was an English stereotype of Irish people for centuries - lazy, stupid, feckless, d*unken bog trotters.

Englishman, Irishman, Scotsman jokes? Who's the butt of them?

And what's the hijab to do with an analogy about a wife who works hard vs a teacher who smoked in class?

#confused

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By *un4allxMan
over a year ago

Arkley


"I don't by really mind then wearing it as I would not really look at them anyway but I would expect them to not wear it in shops or any places of business.

If I walked into a shop,bank or caffe wearing a balaclava or crash helmet then would expect to have to remove it "

Very True

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"has anyone actually got any examples of crimes that would have been avoided if facial coverings were banned? i bet if there are any they'll be few and far between.

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not that the crime would have been avoided no, but the culprits are pretty much unidentifiable because of wearing them. things like theft from shops, petty crimes really.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice...

It's not a choice it's part of an oppressive regime.

I say ban it. "

Surely just saying something negative doesn't make it fact,,,,

The fact is, it is a cultural choice, but whether you agree with that choice is different issue altogether.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!"

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban everyone who wears shoes and socks. I want to see people's feet when I'm talking to them. Sandals, Flip Flops and bare feet only.

#HairyFootedSandalBrigadeRights

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm thinking back to when I was 7, one of the teachers at my school got married to a Muslim, when she came into school wearing a Habib, she sneering comments were shocking, even to a 7 year old, yet everyone was full of praise for my teacher, who used to sit at the front of my class choking us all with his pipe smoke.

I don't know where we get thus idea from that Muslim = terrorist, a lot of my family are Irish, and had the same accusations thrown at them in the 70s, none of them were terrorists, dunks yeah, but not terrorist's.

Whow whow whow whow..... Firstly mister political correctness, what's with labeling Irish d*unks!!.... Let's reverse that lots of my family are Muslims and none are terrorists, sexist racists, yes but.. .

Secondly why did the guys wife suddenly have to start wearing a hijab once she married a Muslim?...I thought people on here said it was a cultural choice of Islamic women?

You're distorting his analogy - it was an English stereotype of Irish people for centuries - lazy, stupid, feckless, d*unken bog trotters.

Englishman, Irishman, Scotsman jokes? Who's the butt of them?

And what's the hijab to do with an analogy about a wife who works hard vs a teacher who smoked in class?

#confused"
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Well you got my first point then, it's ok to offend white Irish Catholics but not brown Muslims?.

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My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

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If it were choice and if all women are the same regardless, you'd see this behaviour all over the world from Christian country's to Islamic ones to Buddhist ones.

The fact we don't shows this particular behavioural pattern is emanating from elsewhere.

I suggest that anybody Google images of Islamabad, Kabul, Baghdad,tehran, Beirut, Cairo in the 50s and 60s and you'll see lots and lots of women in the street doing stuff without the necessity for a bedsheet over their head

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath. "

That reminds me of the Columbine shootings when Charlton Heston said that banning the guns wouldn't have stopped it, but banning the black leather trenchcoats would have because the lads wouldn't have been able to smuggle the guns into the school.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop."

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have any qualms about banning it, it's a stupid cultural practise at best and a religious intolerance at worst.

If we lived in a country that never banned or restricted anything then I could perhaps see the problem.... However we ban or restrict practically everything these days.... On that list should at least include this utterly abhorrent garment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

"

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

"
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That's true but then there not a French citizen are they, where as your neighbour is, a bit like when you go to Dubai they let you drink as a visitor even though they don't agree with your cultural choice but they don't if you're a citizen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ? "
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Why don't you go and ask them if they are??.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

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If it were choice and if all women are the same regardless, you'd see this behaviour all over the world from Christian country's to Islamic ones to Buddhist ones."

But it is a choice. The covering of the hair is a religious expectation but yet again not one where women are oppressed to follow. The burka may be cultural but then it is also a choice and in some cases the way one has been bought up, so the only way they feel comfortable.

I admit some may have it enforced on them but majority of those that I know that wear either the hijab or burka do so because they want to and they understand and believe in the religious reasons behind wearing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

.

That's true but then there not a French citizen are they, where as your neighbour is, a bit like when you go to Dubai they let you drink as a visitor even though they don't agree with your cultural choice but they don't if you're a citizen"

So any laws of a country may only apply to its citizen ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ? .

Why don't you go and ask them if they are??."

Oh I did.

But I don't protray myself a speaker from those women, because they have a voice as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

.

That's true but then there not a French citizen are they, where as your neighbour is, a bit like when you go to Dubai they let you drink as a visitor even though they don't agree with your cultural choice but they don't if you're a citizen

So any laws of a country may only apply to its citizen ??

"
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Some laws do yes, like the ones I just pointed out about Dubai, you simply add that the law only applies to your own citizens when draughting it?.

I wouldn't want to stop foreigners wearing the burka, they can do what the fuck they please, they could even visit the UK and wear it if they wish

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Ban everyone who wears shoes and socks. I want to see people's feet when I'm talking to them. Sandals, Flip Flops and bare feet only.

#HairyFootedSandalBrigadeRights"

Abso-cocking-lutely!

#crimesagainstfashion

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times "

Why not ban nuns then? or Catholic priests? Or jewish women from wearing wigs?

Who cares what you think?! No one is forcing you to wear one? So why not let them be?

Do you really want the police to waste time enforcing a burka ban or catching rapists - such as those footballl coaches?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ? .

Why don't you go and ask them if they are??.

Oh I did.

But I don't protray myself a speaker from those women, because they have a voice as well.

"
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That's great what did they say the sudden massive increase in its use was from..... Sudden massive women's rights in the Islamic world or the fact that some right wing Muslims might shoot, rape or beat them for not wearing it?

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By *ovely_and_HimselfCouple
over a year ago

North of Derby

If we're banning that, can we ban nun's in habit/headpiece/tunic whatever it's called?

History is littered with cases of abuse handed out by them!

Personally, i don't think it's the clothing that's the problem :

In the west women get attacked for wearing the item of clothing discussed

In the east women get attacked for not wearing the item of clothing discussed

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ? "

Agreed -amazing how many men become feminists when it comes to the burqa

Do you want the police to waste their time enforcing a ban or do you want them catching rapists - you know the sort who abuse child footballers...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"has anyone actually got any examples of crimes that would have been avoided if facial coverings were banned? i bet if there are any they'll be few and far between.

not that the crime would have been avoided no, but the culprits are pretty much unidentifiable because of wearing them. things like theft from shops, petty crimes really."

is it a big thing? i've not really heard of many folk in face coverings going about stealing etc..

we get folk at this time of year coming door to door selling stolen stuff, joints of meat weirdly and smelly sets, perfume, razors etc, people get away with these petty crimes all the time and i'd be willing to bet almost all of it is done by people without face coverings.

it just seems like such a none 'thing' really.

there's no more crime committed by people in face coverings than committed by those without i think.

it's mostly a theoretical argument that it COULD be used as some kind if disguise..in reality, it isn't, there are no criminal crime waves of people in face coverings..no more than anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we talking burka or niqab?

The niqab allows the eyes to show, the burka has mesh across the eyes.

I would be ok with my child being taught by someone wearing a niqab, if that person communicated the same as every other teacher.

I wouldn't be as happy if the teacher was totally covered because, to me, it puts a wall up between the child and the teacher.

Children spend a lot of time with their teachers and form bonds with them. I feel it wouldn't the case if a totally faceless person was teaching them.

I come across quite a few women wearing niqabs and feel it is a barrier towards communication. I've spoken to one woman on a bus, who was wearing one. I spoke to her first but that's rare, as it feels like they have a barrier up against the outside world.

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"I don't have any qualms about banning it, it's a stupid cultural practise at best and a religious intolerance at worst.

If we lived in a country that never banned or restricted anything then I could perhaps see the problem.... However we ban or restrict practically everything these days.... On that list should at least include this utterly abhorrent garment"

what utter tripe!

lets ban alcohol then - how many people die because of alcohol? Drink driving? Or excessive drinking leading to alcholism. Or because it leads to violence?

Oh I forgot - you drink - so we cant ban it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath. "

Yeah i know what you mean...you never know whats under...could be a robber a con artist....a terrorist....or a normal woman who's preferences are to wear it...,but then theres plenty on con artists on here

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I have a (slightly special but very intelligent) friend who did a test in a small town near here when he bought the niqab online and wore it about town for a day. Just to see what would happen.

He's a rather eccentric white 30-something Englishman but on this occasion he reported cat-calls, derision and a general unwillingness to engage.

Interesting, if anecdotal.

Maybe one of you might like to try it? We could get a better population sample and get some decent results.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't have any qualms about banning it, it's a stupid cultural practise at best and a religious intolerance at worst.

If we lived in a country that never banned or restricted anything then I could perhaps see the problem.... However we ban or restrict practically everything these days.... On that list should at least include this utterly abhorrent garment

what utter tripe!

lets ban alcohol then - how many people die because of alcohol? Drink driving? Or excessive drinking leading to alcholism. Or because it leads to violence?

Oh I forgot - you drink - so we cant ban it?

"
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I think if you read what I wrote oh wise one, you'll see I wrote ban or restrict....I think you'll find alcohol falls into that category

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ? .

Why don't you go and ask them if they are??.

Oh I did.

But I don't protray myself a speaker from those women, because they have a voice as well.

.

That's great what did they say the sudden massive increase in its use was from..... Sudden massive women's rights in the Islamic world or the fact that some right wing Muslims might shoot, rape or beat them for not wearing it?"

Don't mix everything.

Of course there is a disgusting rise amongst far right 'muslims' who force women to wear the hijab, yet the majority wears it by choice.

We should directly ask the women who wear it instead of saying that they are being oppressed.

By talking for them, we do exactly the same thing that those people, who forces the hijab upon women, do.

We suppress their right to have a voice !!!

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"Are we talking burka or niqab?

The niqab allows the eyes to show, the burka has mesh across the eyes.

I would be ok with my child being taught by someone wearing a niqab, if that person communicated the same as every other teacher.

I wouldn't be as happy if the teacher was totally covered because, to me, it puts a wall up between the child and the teacher.

Children spend a lot of time with their teachers and form bonds with them. I feel it wouldn't the case if a totally faceless person was teaching them.

I come across quite a few women wearing niqabs and feel it is a barrier towards communication. I've spoken to one woman on a bus, who was wearing one. I spoke to her first but that's rare, as it feels like they have a barrier up against the outside world. "

I agree - its not a good thing. But banning it is nt the answer.

I dont smoke - and dont like it?

it leads to deaths - shall we ban smoking on this logic.

Lots of people do lots of things that I think dont make sense. But that is for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

"

I'm not saying ban it. I'm saying restrict it predominately in areas where face to face identification is needed. For example, schools, government, banks.

By all means, people can wear it within the confines of their home, in a public park, at the beach or in a coffee shop.

I mean, if I'm a terrorist the last thing I'm going to do is to make myself stand out like a sore thumb wearing something which conceals almost all of me, when most western countries are concerned about terror attacks. Instead I'm going to try and make myself look nondescript as possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ?

Agreed -amazing how many men become feminists when it comes to the burqa

Do you want the police to waste their time enforcing a ban or do you want them catching rapists - you know the sort who abuse child footballers..."
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Or young white girls in Rotherham, Oldham, Oxford, Leeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Are we talking burka or niqab?

The niqab allows the eyes to show, the burka has mesh across the eyes.

I would be ok with my child being taught by someone wearing a niqab, if that person communicated the same as every other teacher.

I wouldn't be as happy if the teacher was totally covered because, to me, it puts a wall up between the child and the teacher.

Children spend a lot of time with their teachers and form bonds with them. I feel it wouldn't the case if a totally faceless person was teaching them.

I come across quite a few women wearing niqabs and feel it is a barrier towards communication. I've spoken to one woman on a bus, who was wearing one. I spoke to her first but that's rare, as it feels like they have a barrier up against the outside world. "

Interesting post....

Would you say kids today have less preconceptions..... and if not would you say their prejudices are naturally occurring or incubated by their peers...

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"I don't have any qualms about banning it, it's a stupid cultural practise at best and a religious intolerance at worst.

If we lived in a country that never banned or restricted anything then I could perhaps see the problem.... However we ban or restrict practically everything these days.... On that list should at least include this utterly abhorrent garment

what utter tripe!

lets ban alcohol then - how many people die because of alcohol? Drink driving? Or excessive drinking leading to alcholism. Or because it leads to violence?

Oh I forgot - you drink - so we cant ban it?

.

I think if you read what I wrote oh wise one, you'll see I wrote ban or restrict....I think you'll find alcohol falls into that category"

As ever, you do what all people do - if you like something - ie acohol - even though it leads to many innocent deaths every year - you want to keep it. If you dont like something - you want to ban it.

Banning alcohol would save many more lives than banning the burka

but please go ahead - ban the burka and then get the police to enforce your ban.

I look forward to pictures of british policemen riping burkas off women being beamed across the world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about Carmelite nuns?

That's practically a burqa - they wear that for antiquated religious reasons.

Ban them, n' all!

If nuns wore those garments in a school or government institutions, I'd say ban them. Such religious garments of any faith should be worn only in private or public places where identification is a minor issue. for example a park or coffee shop.

You know what my government (France) that banned the burqa, and severily punish the ones wearing it, does when a rich Saudi prince comes to France with his wife, who wear the burqa ?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

Yet my neighboor can't wear it because it goes against laws.

To paraphrase Voltaire, when it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.

I'm not saying ban it. I'm saying restrict it predominately in areas where face to face identification is needed. For example, schools, government, banks.

By all means, people can wear it within the confines of their home, in a public park, at the beach or in a coffee shop.

I mean, if I'm a terrorist the last thing I'm going to do is to make myself stand out like a sore thumb wearing something which conceals almost all of me, when most western countries are concerned about terror attacks. Instead I'm going to try and make myself look nondescript as possible."

You know in France, terrorists are so dumb that they take their identity cards with them when they commit those cowardly acts.

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules."

Rules?

In the 1950s - homosexuality was banned

Lets go back to those rules - shall we?

rules are just stuff some people make up

Lets ban alcohol - now that would save a lot of peoples lives - road deaths - violence, wife battery etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules."

Yes, colonisation surely showed how open the Western world was in term of submit and adhere to rules of other countries. #sarcasm.

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By *verready32Man
over a year ago

omagh

I would feel rather uncomfortable banning it, we are supposed to be a people with freedoms. So where would it stop, if we did ban it, what next do we ban if we don't like it, hoodies??

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


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My point being the wearing of the hijab burka or all the other stuff is not primarily the women's choice, most of the time it's forced upon them whether they like it or not by peers, Muslims, men and they're religion.

Love how you protray yourself as speaker from all these oppressed women.

Why not going in the streets together and ask women who wear hijab or burqa if it is their choice or not ?

Agreed -amazing how many men become feminists when it comes to the burqa

Do you want the police to waste their time enforcing a ban or do you want them catching rapists - you know the sort who abuse child footballers....

Or young white girls in Rotherham, Oldham, Oxford, Leeds"

Or young white boys in football clubs all over the country......hmmm..what was the nationality of those men - funny how you dont mention them?

Or the catholic priests all over the world?

Again, funny how you dont mention them?

What was their natonality?!

Hmm ..i wonder....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules."

drivel..i was not aware there were rules in this country regarding what people are allowed or not allowed to wear...please could you explain exactly what these 'rules' are?

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I like to go on holiday. I choose where to go on the basis of historical interests, pretty architecture and good food.

I've been to strict Catholic countries where I am expected to cover my head if I want to visit certain areas/buildings/landmarks. So I cover my head. I've been to very strict Muslim countries where I'm not expected to cover my head because I am white, and not Muslim. I still cover my head out of respect.

When I visit the Jewish cemetery here in Southend, I am not expected to cover my head because I am not Jewish. However, I do.

So, is the issue the head covering or the Daily Hate rhetoric of all people covering their heads are terrorists?

And if I had children I wouldn't care what their teachers wore, providing they taught what they were supposed to be teaching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Rules?

In the 1950s - homosexuality was banned

Lets go back to those rules - shall we?

rules are just stuff some people make up

Lets ban alcohol - now that would save a lot of peoples lives - road deaths - violence, wife battery etc"
That is right, like if a country dont accept a certain dress code they should be allowed to ban it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Should be banned out right. A major security risk could be anyone hiding underneath.

That reminds me of the Columbine shootings when Charlton Heston said that banning the guns wouldn't have stopped it, but banning the black leather trenchcoats would have because the lads wouldn't have been able to smuggle the guns into the school."

this..

maybe just ban backpacks..

or top hats..

once saw a film where a guy had a bomb under his top hat..

knew it was a bomb cos it was black and round and had 'bomb' written on it..

and it had a fizzing fuse..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I would feel rather uncomfortable banning it, we are supposed to be a people with freedoms. So where would it stop, if we did ban it, what next do we ban if we don't like it, hoodies??"

But a hoodie worn with a swoop fringe and guy-liner looks so darn cute......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

drivel..i was not aware there were rules in this country regarding what people are allowed or not allowed to wear...please could you explain exactly what these 'rules' are?"

France is such a hyppcrite country tbh, during election candidates are so proud and praise that France has created the Human Right, and right after they walk on it with both feet !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

drivel..i was not aware there were rules in this country regarding what people are allowed or not allowed to wear...please could you explain exactly what these 'rules' are?"
Well, not rules, we live in a world full of extremist and some could hide behind one, it is more to do with security risk.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules."

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Rules?

In the 1950s - homosexuality was banned

Lets go back to those rules - shall we?

rules are just stuff some people make up

Lets ban alcohol - now that would save a lot of peoples lives - road deaths - violence, wife battery etcThat is right, like if a country dont accept a certain dress code they should be allowed to ban it. "

I dont like Man U - lets ban them!

In this country - what one likes or doesn't like has nothing to do with what we do ban or dont ban

Lets ban smoking and alcohol - that would save a lot of innocent peoples lives!

But I bet you wouldnt be in favour of that...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Rules?

In the 1950s - homosexuality was banned

Lets go back to those rules - shall we?

rules are just stuff some people make up

Lets ban alcohol - now that would save a lot of peoples lives - road deaths - violence, wife battery etcThat is right, like if a country dont accept a certain dress code they should be allowed to ban it. "

luckily we live in a country that allows people the freedom to dress as they wish to.

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

Motorbikers cannot even go into a bank or a petrol station with helmets on because of security threat can they because of security threat can they?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really don't care what people wear!

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

Though a lot of Muslim women profess that it is their own choice.

Who cares what other people choose to wear!

I don't understand how in a world full of diversity that we all seem to want everyone to be the same!

Live and let live!

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By *uperock99Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

That's ridiculous. I don't care if she wears one or not as long as my child is being properly educated and respected. "
So is it OK if a male teacher wears a lone ranger mask in the class room? As long as he is teaching the children correctly

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

ban cars..

ban alcohol..

ban smoking..

ban illegal drugs..

ban some legal drugs..

3 of the above as we speak are killing someone and will have killed someone today and will do so tomorrow..

yeah i know its not the same as little Tommy getting mixed up with his 7 times table or little Jenny not being totally au fait with her understanding of pi but..

fuck it..

lets just ban something to pander to those with an agenda to cause division..

lets just

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

drivel..i was not aware there were rules in this country regarding what people are allowed or not allowed to wear...please could you explain exactly what these 'rules' are?Well, not rules, we live in a world full of extremist and some could hide behind one, it is more to do with security risk."

so because there could be some,tiny,vague notion that 'someone' could disguise themselves with a burka to avoid being identified, then everyone should be barred from wearing them? really? by that token, no-one should be able to ride motorbikes..or wear sunglasses...completely ridiculous excuses for plain bigotry!

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

"

Not a Burqa but they have to cover up head,bare arms & legs though don't they?,don't think much religious tolerance is shown to Western Women who wear swimsuits on the beach or a pair of shorts to go shopping do they?.

Even our PM mrs May had rto cover her head to vist a London mosque didn't she?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

"
I dont have a wife and no, dont think they would, but most women are not allowed to dress like they do here there as they want most women to cover up.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

Not a Burqa but they have to cover up head,bare arms & legs though don't they?,don't think much religious tolerance is shown to Western Women who wear swimsuits on the beach or a pair of shorts to go shopping do they?.

Even our PM mrs May had rto cover her head to vist a London mosque didn't she?."

when we have family that smoke visit us,( not many these days to be fair) we wouldn't have to ask them not to smoke in our house..

they just would not do so out of respect..

i know..

radical..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

I dont have a wife and no, dont think they would, but most women are not allowed to dress like they do here there as they want most women to cover up."

so you are agreeing thats right then...women should be told what they can and can't wear?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Yes, colonisation surely showed how open the Western world was in term of submit and adhere to rules of other countries. #sarcasm. "
lol good one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

I dont have a wife and no, dont think they would, but most women are not allowed to dress like they do here there as they want most women to cover up.

so you are agreeing thats right then...women should be told what they can and can't wear?"
No I dont, but in a muslim country they have no choice.

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

Moslems are that intolerant to other religions and us Westerners in General that they come here and Demand that we adapt to their ways!.

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"people in suits have done way more damage to the world than people in burkas. ban the suit.

or not..it's just clothes."

Issues like this are simply used to distract attention from the things that actually damage our society.

Divide and rule keeps working on too many... we all have more in common than really divides us... Better to focus attention on things which unify. Thats what would weaken the power the white collar bandits have over us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Saves using a bag I suppose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

I dont have a wife and no, dont think they would, but most women are not allowed to dress like they do here there as they want most women to cover up.

so you are agreeing thats right then...women should be told what they can and can't wear?No I dont, but in a muslim country they have no choice."

but you are contradicting yourself completely...you have already said you think burkas should be banned, but now you say you dont think women should be told what they can or cant wear...make your mind up!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

"

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public.

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"I'll say it again. The argument should not be an us vs them.

It should about how our western values of being free from religion, but free to practice religion if we wish, interact with matters to security an identification.

My opinion is that if the argument is that people wearing the Burqa could, cause a risk, then fair enough. But lets see the stats on how many burqa wearers have, in western countries, committed religiously motivated attacks of any form.

When it comes to the issue of 'perhaps burqas are not fit to be used in public institutions, eg, schools, government, transport ect. Then fair enough, there are I.D issues. Simple solution is do not allow it within the confines of those institutions.

However what does for one cultural/religious garment must go for another, there can be no cherry picking in secular governments.

As for outside the confines of those institutions, the burqa should be allowed to be worn in public spaces eg, parks, and in the private confines of the home or religious building. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

I dont have a wife and no, dont think they would, but most women are not allowed to dress like they do here there as they want most women to cover up.

so you are agreeing thats right then...women should be told what they can and can't wear?No I dont, but in a muslim country they have no choice.

but you are contradicting yourself completely...you have already said you think burkas should be banned, but now you say you dont think women should be told what they can or cant wear...make your mind up!"
No, you are twisting things as usual. I said in the western world they should be banned as it is our culture. I only compared it to a muslim country where women have no choice, but to cover up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Yes, colonisation surely showed how open the Western world was in term of submit and adhere to rules of other countries. #sarcasm. lol good one."

It wasn't a joke, just a fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This video is interesting and relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYvptHsuGyA

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"Moslems are that intolerant to other religions and us Westerners in General that they come here and Demand that we adapt to their ways!."

Lmao... Since when?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes they should and it is good france have done it, they are living in the western world and have to submit and adhere to our rules.

Does that mean your wife should wear a burqa if you go to an observant Muslim country?

I dont have a wife and no, dont think they would, but most women are not allowed to dress like they do here there as they want most women to cover up.

so you are agreeing thats right then...women should be told what they can and can't wear?No I dont, but in a muslim country they have no choice.

but you are contradicting yourself completely...you have already said you think burkas should be banned, but now you say you dont think women should be told what they can or cant wear...make your mind up!No, you are twisting things as usual. I said in the western world they should be banned as it is our culture. I only compared it to a muslim country where women have no choice, but to cover up."

no,i am not 'twisting things' at all...you have completely contradicted yourself. and it is not 'our' culture to dictate to anyone what they can or cannot wear...there have been muslims living all over europe for centuries you know..'our' culture is , and has always been very fluid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just a thought.

we shall have to ban beards too.

what if someone committed a crime whilst sporting a big beard and then shaved it?

i know friends who have had large beards and shaved...they look almost un recognisable after.

it's a big security risk obviously...folk hiding their faces behind easily removable beards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban an item of clothing? What a moronic proposal.

Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Tough shit!

Drag queens make me feel uncomfortable but I would never ask them to change who they are. I have no right to even suggest such a thing.

Just keep your head down and mind your own business or better yet, open yourself to people and culture. Make a better person of yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lt should be banned out right.

l know members of my family want to leave and go home because of the fear the Muslims are instilling. Not hard to see when their books calls for us to be murdered.

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By *hingford manMan
over a year ago

highams park East London

Ban it

I can't walk into a bank aswell as many many other places with my crash helmet on even thou you can see most my face, BAN IT to those who insist they need to wear it well move to a Muslim country where it's the norm

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over a year ago


"just a thought.

we shall have to ban beards too.

what if someone committed a crime whilst sporting a big beard and then shaved it?

i know friends who have had large beards and shaved...they look almost un recognisable after.

it's a big security risk obviously...folk hiding their faces behind easily removable beards"

a particular concern this time of year...round up those charity collecting santas immediatly!

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over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. "

I haven't thought that hard abut it if I'm honest!

If women want to wear burqas or nipple tassles let them crack on!

It's none of my buisness!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"just a thought.

we shall have to ban beards too.

what if someone committed a crime whilst sporting a big beard and then shaved it?

i know friends who have had large beards and shaved...they look almost un recognisable after.

it's a big security risk obviously...folk hiding their faces behind easily removable beards

a particular concern this time of year...round up those charity collecting santas immediatly!"

When there has been a spate of terrorist attacks by Santa and he wants to make Lapland into a caliphate, l'd agree with you. Until then, l don't care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. "
.

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer"

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer"

Exactly. lnm the 60s and 70s, even the headscarf was rare in some muslim countries. They would even wear skirts to the knee...these days the extremists are more influential than ever and the feel good squad, who have never even read the Qu'ran, want to try and show everyone how nice and liberal they are. How daring!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

"

A muffled and oppressed voice. Literally and metaphorically.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never understand why petrol stations have signs up saying "please remove your helmet before entering" but will not include any other headgear!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Drag queens make me feel uncomfortable but I would never ask them to change who they are. I have no right to even suggest such a thing.

"

I could be very gentle...

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer"

And of course you know because you are a mind reader..

Well - lets ban all pubs. I can read the minds of all those guys drinking in pubs and realise they dont want to be there...

At once, we would get rid off a lot of sat night violence!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

"
.

Yeah like the Muslim shop keeper in Glasgow had one?. Or the Afghan girl who wanted to go to school for education.... They all had a voice alright, it's wether you want to risk your life saying something that doesn't please the hard-line Muslim men

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"Ban it

I can't walk into a bank aswell as many many other places with my crash helmet on even thou you can see most my face, BAN IT to those who insist they need to wear it well move to a Muslim country where it's the norm "

Lets ban you !

its easier

you can move to EDL land where peeps like you are the norm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

A muffled and oppressed voice. Literally and metaphorically."

Haha yes and with you they would be free, yet you will tell them what to wear or NOT wear!

Please don't make fun of yourself.

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"lt should be banned out right.

l know members of my family want to leave and go home because of the fear the Muslims are instilling. Not hard to see when their books calls for us to be murdered."

In Glasgow? Really? I wasn't aware of fundamentalists embedding themselves in Scotland. Did I miss something?

Are you sure they've not just fallen for what far right fear-mongerers are telling them without themselves ever having heard or spoken to a Muslim themselves?

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

.

Yeah like the Muslim shop keeper in Glasgow had one?. Or the Afghan girl who wanted to go to school for education.... They all had a voice alright, it's wether you want to risk your life saying something that doesn't please the hard-line Muslim men"

Amazing !

all these white guys who all off a sudden care about muslim womens rights

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"lt should be banned out right.

l know members of my family want to leave and go home because of the fear the Muslims are instilling. Not hard to see when their books calls for us to be murdered.

In Glasgow? Really? I wasn't aware of fundamentalists embedding themselves in Scotland. Did I miss something?

Are you sure they've not just fallen for what far right fear-mongerers are telling them without themselves ever having heard or spoken to a Muslim themselves?"

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

.

Yeah like the Muslim shop keeper in Glasgow had one?. Or the Afghan girl who wanted to go to school for education.... They all had a voice alright, it's wether you want to risk your life saying something that doesn't please the hard-line Muslim men"

He was Ahmadi. Regular Muslim despise them. The Ahmaid are peaceful since their last Prophet was much much much nicer than Mohammed (Mohammed was a warlord that married a girl called Aisha when she was 6 and Muslims think he was the most moral man that ever lives.)

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over a year ago


"lt should be banned out right.

l know members of my family want to leave and go home because of the fear the Muslims are instilling. Not hard to see when their books calls for us to be murdered."

For starters, they only have one book. The Quran. It's Christians who pick and choose which book they follow.

Secondly, there isn't one sentence in the Quran that mentions murder or killing of people of other faith. It's the exact opposite. It's actually Christian books that mentions killing people of other faith.

I suggest you do some research before you make a fool of yourself in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

.

Yeah like the Muslim shop keeper in Glasgow had one?. Or the Afghan girl who wanted to go to school for education.... They all had a voice alright, it's wether you want to risk your life saying something that doesn't please the hard-line Muslim men"

Ok we get it, you don't like muslims, Islam and everything that comes close to that ideology.

Yet you have no right to tell other what to wear or not wear.

And if you want to ban it, by doing so, you aren't better than the ones who force it upon women!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

And of course you know because you are a mind reader..

Well - lets ban all pubs. I can read the minds of all those guys drinking in pubs and realise they dont want to be there...

At once, we would get rid off a lot of sat night violence!"
.

We already been through this wise one!!.

Remember pubs and alcohol are already restricted?....I wonder why?. Oh yes because it wouldn't be good to let people just do what they wish when they wish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

A muffled and oppressed voice. Literally and metaphorically.

Haha yes and with you they would be free, yet you will tell them what to wear or NOT wear!

Please don't make fun of yourself. "

lf you think the veil is about freedom of choice then you are a tit. Muslim women used to wear them far less back in the day. But the rise of Wahhabism has got nothing to do with it has it?

B-b-b-but it says in the Bible! Ugh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am off now, I have said what I have to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

A muffled and oppressed voice. Literally and metaphorically.

Haha yes and with you they would be free, yet you will tell them what to wear or NOT wear!

Please don't make fun of yourself.

lf you think the veil is about freedom of choice then you are a tit. Muslim women used to wear them far less back in the day. But the rise of Wahhabism has got nothing to do with it has it?

B-b-b-but it says in the Bible! Ugh. "

Reread what I have written and again, avoid to call me names. If you don't have enough vocabulary, let me know, I'll gladly send you a dictionary to your home !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

.

Yeah like the Muslim shop keeper in Glasgow had one?. Or the Afghan girl who wanted to go to school for education.... They all had a voice alright, it's wether you want to risk your life saying something that doesn't please the hard-line Muslim men

Ok we get it, you don't like muslims, Islam and everything that comes close to that ideology.

Yet you have no right to tell other what to wear or not wear.

And if you want to ban it, by doing so, you aren't better than the ones who force it upon women! "

Yes, we don't like a religion who's ''Prophet'' Murdered 800 Jewish men and boys and made them dig their own graves (the Banya Quraiza) and married a girl aged six, consummated the marriage aged 9 and commanded his followers to ''slay the unbeliever'' and that the greatest thing a man can do is commit Jihad (offensive Jihad). l can find the Surahs and the Hadith if you don't believe me so you can read it for yourself.

lslam : the religion of Peace!

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

And of course you know because you are a mind reader..

Well - lets ban all pubs. I can read the minds of all those guys drinking in pubs and realise they dont want to be there...

At once, we would get rid off a lot of sat night violence!.

We already been through this wise one!!.

Remember pubs and alcohol are already restricted?....I wonder why?. Oh yes because it wouldn't be good to let people just do what they wish when they wish"

Lets ban them altogether

But then you like a drink dont you - even though it leads to deaths and violence. Lots of innocent people die every year because of d*unk driving. Lets ban alcohol altogether then

So lets see - " stuff I do - lets keep that!"

"stuff I dont do and dont like - lets ban that !"

Simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice...

A cultural choice..... a possessive man with 7 wives..........."

in Islam a man is allowed to marry 4 women because back in the days, people were trying to erase them so a lot of martyred soldiers would leave widows behind. so others would marry those widows who had no house or anything. it was to not let the women and mothers starve to death. now a days it's abused and it's not even according to Islam. it's definitely not Halal because they see it as a luxury. just food for thought

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well this was fun....

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Not on my account "

Always wondered,

The wearing of the burqa.

Is it the law of Allah,or the law of Man???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most people wouldn't want their children being taught by a woman wearing a burka...... but thinking about it how well do you really know your children's teachers?

Food for thought

I'd rather they could have a face to face conversation but does it make them a bad teacher?

Our current teacher is off sick most of they ear so no consistency. but this is off topic!

I agree with the majority, I'm against the burka so ban it, especially in schools. Religion is holding mankind back, it has for centuries.... gotta move with the times

I could be wrong , but to the best of my knowledge it's not a religious requirement ..... its simply a cultural choice...

A cultural choice..... a possessive man with 7 wives...........

in Islam a man is allowed to marry 4 women because back in the days, people were trying to erase them so a lot of martyred soldiers would leave widows behind. so others would marry those widows who had no house or anything. it was to not let the women and mothers starve to death. now a days it's abused and it's not even according to Islam. it's definitely not Halal because they see it as a luxury. just food for thought "

ls that why Mohammed married 9, including the 6 year old Aisha? Did her previous husband die in war?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in freedom of choice - which is ironic considering what the burqa represents!

What does the burqa represent to you ?

Repression, oppression ?

What means oppression ? Taking away someone from his/her power.

According to Dalia Mogahed, who herself wears hijab, what hijab does, basically privatise wonen's sexuality. That's essentially what it does.

So what do we saying, when we say that by taking away or privatise a woman's sexuality we are oppressing her ?

What does that mean, what does that say about the source of a woman's power ?

We are saying that a woman is only strong is she is sexy in public. .

What a load of shit, she's covering up her face not her bleeding tits.

It's choice, my arse, nobody chooses to wear for fun a thick black garment in 50 fucking degrees, you ever noticed how all the men wear white robes but women have black ones? It's just choice i tell yer

Again women who wear it, doesn't need you to represent them by proxy.

They have a voice.

.

Yeah like the Muslim shop keeper in Glasgow had one?. Or the Afghan girl who wanted to go to school for education.... They all had a voice alright, it's wether you want to risk your life saying something that doesn't please the hard-line Muslim men

Ok we get it, you don't like muslims, Islam and everything that comes close to that ideology.

Yet you have no right to tell other what to wear or not wear.

And if you want to ban it, by doing so, you aren't better than the ones who force it upon women! "
.

Wrong,i don't like religion, Islam is the bottom of a shit pie sandwich.

I'd ban childhood religious circumcisions as well... We already ban or restrict loads of stuff we deem bad for society... The fact of the matter is religion has been getting away with it for decades because it's a religion, crash helmets, drugs, nakedness, alcohol, smoking, driving, porn, pot.... You can't have a coal fire in a town centre, ride a motorbike on open land, protest in groups of more than 7 , drive a car without a seatbelt, speed, tow a caravan even taking rubbish to the tip has restrictions......

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But cutting the foreskin of your baby is just fine.... It's in the name of your religion after all!

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By *uperock99Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

The problem is that Muslims find everything offensive to them when they moved here that doesn't fit into their beliefs and culture, so they had all sorts banned in this country to accommodate their ways, but when this country tells them to fit in, they cry out victim of racism and all the other bullshit.

If they don't like the western culture why they move here and all over the western world.

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