FabSwingers.com forum: Fidel Castro

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Has died...what next for Cuba?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

RIP, a man who loved his country truly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His brother has been president since 2008 so I'd imagine a period of mourning, then business as usual.

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By *riskySandDCouple
over a year ago

DONCASTER

"Has died...what next for Cuba?"

Fidel Castro died years ago. They've only just decided to tell us

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By *rank n BettyCouple
over a year ago

Not meeting

I went to Cuba in 2005 & it is an amazing country. Once Fidel handed over to his brother things began to change (for the better I hope!)

I just hope it doesn't become too Americanised

JG x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I went to Cuba in 2005 & it is an amazing country. Once Fidel handed over to his brother things began to change (for the better I hope!)

I just hope it doesn't become too Americanised

JG x "

Always wanted to go & finally Took the kids there this year - to see it before the yanks take over. Fascinating place , loved it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not many people will have their name echo through history in the way his will ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I went to Cuba in 2005 & it is an amazing country. Once Fidel handed over to his brother things began to change (for the better I hope!)

I just hope it doesn't become too Americanised

JG x "

So do I

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The man was and is a legend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His brother has been president since 2008 so I'd imagine a period of mourning, then business as usual."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spent some time last year on Calle Ocho and was honoured to listen to several members of the Little Havana community recalling fleeing from Cuba when Castro overthrew Batista, and the turmoil all through the time leading up to the infamous Bay of Pigs invasion.

Castro's legacy is a mixed one, for the positives he wrought for Cuba, as many negatives could be argued. He was certainly driven by strength and an ideological desire for his country - though he believed that the only way to achieve it was through military dictatorship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont agree with his politics, but have to admire his stubborness and resolution.

I have always wanted to visit the country. I think it will be wrecked by the Americans very soon though.

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By *rank n BettyCouple
over a year ago

Not meeting

"I went to Cuba in 2005 & it is an amazing country. Once Fidel handed over to his brother things began to change (for the better I hope!)

I just hope it doesn't become too Americanised

JG x

Always wanted to go & finally Took the kids there this year - to see it before the yanks take over. Fascinating place , loved it.

I went to Santiago & Guardalavaca with a 4 yr old on honeymoon with my ex would love to do west side & Havana xxx

JG x

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Was it an exploding Werthers Original supplied by the CIA?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't he die years ago?

I've been to Cuba nice place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I went to Cuba in 2005 & it is an amazing country. Once Fidel handed over to his brother things began to change (for the better I hope!)

I just hope it doesn't become too Americanised

Always wanted to go & finally Took the kids there this year - to see it before the yanks take over. Fascinating place , loved it.

I went to Santiago & Guardalavaca with a 4 yr old on honeymoon with my ex would love to do west side & Havana xxx

JG x"

Havana is great, really interesting . Mix of chaos and decaying building with a vibrancy as the locals now have the chance to rebuild their city and environment. Roads dug up all over the place as utilities start to be put right.

When they (Havanans) realise you're not American, they couldn't be nicer & as a comment up there ^^ says, you get to hear both sides of the Castro argument , the love toward Che & Camilo Cienfuegos and their efforts for the people.

I'd go back tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yes, agree with many of the comments above. I absolutely love Cuba and have been several times, and whereas I hope it doesn't get spoilt, am all for a better standard of living for the people - some of the most charming, cultured and sexy in the world.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"Has died...what next for Cuba?"

I think Cuba will carry on as it has been since he stepped down.His brother has been running the country since 2008, some of his policies, Fidel did not agree with.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"Yes, agree with many of the comments above. I absolutely love Cuba and have been several times, and whereas I hope it doesn't get spoilt, am all for a better standard of living for the people - some of the most charming, cultured and sexy in the world. "

one of my favourite trips ever- from the beautiful, relaxing beaches to the crazy and fascinating capital but most of all, the awesomely freindly and interesting Cuban people

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Not many people will have their name echo through history in the way his will ......

Granny Granny Grannyyyyyy Grannnnnn Gran an an an an nnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He plunged Cuba in to poverty

Took billions from Russia

The size of Cuba everyone should be a millionaire ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Health care system the envy of the world .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not many people will have their name echo through history in the way his will ......

GWANNY--------GWANNy--------GWANny------GWAnny------GWanny....Gwanny

Granny Granny Grannyyyyyy Grannnnnn Gran an an an an nnnnnnnnnnnnnn "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Health care system the envy of the world .....

Don't they have a great education system as well?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Health care system the envy of the world .....

Don't they have a great education system as well? "

Yes indeed they do....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont agree with his politics, but have to admire his stubborness and resolution.

I have always wanted to visit the country. I think it will be wrecked by the Americans very soon though."
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It's a strange parody when we don't agree with his politics but do belive the people with the right politics will wreck it?.

Personally I've always been a che Guevara man

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Trump works pretty quickly doesn't he

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trump works pretty quickly doesn't he"

Apparently Castro was alleged to have survived more than 600 reported assassination attempts.......

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Has died...what next for Cuba?

Fidel Castro died years ago. They've only just decided to tell us

No he died Friday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing will change, Castro had his good and his bad and the US removing it from Embargo makes the whole situation fluid regardless of who is leader now.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Another Cuba lover here and hope it's not spoilt much by americanisation. He will be remembered for years to come and kept Cuba unique, amongst the Caribbean islands, in fact globally. I'm sure he had faults but free universal healthcare and education were amongst his gifts to the people, even if they've remained poor and deprived in other areas. Sad to see him go, though Raul - his brother - has been running the country for most of the last decade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trump works pretty quickly doesn't he"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We went there last year...talking to one of the locals they said they do three things in Cuba....'drink, smoke and wait' perhaps the waiting is now over....it all depends on Trump's take on it....if the clown knows where it is !

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

He was pretty awesome in black ops zombies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has died...what next for Cuba?"

Mac Donald's and Starbucks Explosion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has died...what next for Cuba?

Mac Donald's and Starbucks Explosion

Yeah, you are probably right....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mac Donald's and Starbucks Explosion

Yeah, you are probably right...."

Hope you are wrong. They tried to open in Chile and failed because of the culture. However with globalisation and longer work hours they got in. And obesity is on the rise.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Has died...what next for Cuba?"

Havana funeral obviously

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think castro's legacy will be an interesting one....

for some he will be seen as a dictator who took over from another dicatator... the human rights and prisoning of his opponents

but the world class healthcare and education they have there can't be something that can be overlooked

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Health care system the envy of the world .....

Don't they have a great education system as well?

Yes indeed they do....

It's interesting, a policy-wonk friend of mine was asked to investigate the Cuban health-care system to see what, if any, lessons could be learned to apply to the NHS.

Cuba has some excellent health outcomes and, indeed, life expectancy in Cuba - a communist dictatorship that lived in a state of perpetual threat for 40-odd years until the USSR's collapse - is higher than the USA, the world's richest country.

Without a pot to piss in, how has Cuba done this?

Turns out it's quite simple; prevention is better than cure.

In Cuba each district, street and family are assigned health workers, who get to know individuals and visit them at home regularly, discussing living and eating habits and recommending things like smoking less, eating sensibly.

Turns out, if you constantly tell people to do the right thing for themselves to their face often enough, people generally live longer, healthier lives.

But we wouldn't want Big Brother telling us it's not our God-given right to eat another KFC Family bucket or open another packet of fags (although fat people and smokers *may* be penalised by the NHS...).

Funny old world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's shouldn't be overlooked he did a lot for beard wearing.....

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It's shouldn't be overlooked he did a lot for beard wearing.....

W-? Was... was he GAY?

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By *ubble troubleCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

I've not been to Cuba but I would hope for the country that they can stop oppressing dissent whilst retaining the progress made in education and health. It's not good that their doctors have to also work as taxi drivers to make ends meet but I seriously hope the US doesn't get its grubby hands on Cuba. Their record of creating and funding fascism in the region is appalling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's shouldn't be overlooked he did a lot for beard wearing.....

W-? Was... was he GAY?

Apparently in his day he liked the ladies......according to reports he fair rattled through them so he did...

The story goes those sneaky fookers in the CIA had a plan to bump him off using a crack team of special agent prostitutes ..

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By *aucy tiggerWoman
over a year ago

Back where I belong

I did a tour of Cuba and visited many wonderful towns and villages off the tourist trail - absolutely beautiful country and fascinating people.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Oh! No-one's done CIA-sponsored attempts to kill Castro!

* Fidel Castro survived more than 600 reported assassination attempts before dying at 90.

* President Kennedy authorized Operation Mongoose to topple Castro

* The CIA developed a series of James Bond-style assassination plans

* Included poisoned cigars, exploding sea shells and a mafia-style execution

* Former mistress and femme fatale was Marita Lorenz employed by the CIA to slip him poisoned capsules in another failed attempt (she fell in love with him)

* The CIA planned to slip him a box of cigars tainted with LSD so that he would burst into fits of laughter during a television interview

The CIA also considered tampering with Fidel Castro's cigar, either poisoning it or turning it into an explosive

* The did this thing with pill to try and make his beard fall out...

As Castro said: 'If surviving assassination attempts were an Olympic event, I would win the gold medal'.

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By *ubble troubleCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Anyone wanting a balanced assessment of Castro should read a book called Red Heat by historian Alex von Tunzelmann.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh! No-one's done CIA-sponsored attempts to kill Castro!