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"Like anything, it depends on how people use it and the precautions that individuals take when meeting. But the news is currently busy with stories of rapes and murders of men and women committed with the help of internet dating websites. Are fabsters too aware to be at risk? I worry that there are some very vulnerable people on this site." I am sure that most are quite able to take care of themselves. Fancy a meet down the alley? | |||
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"I like dentist/patient scenarios and always ask "is it safe?.....is it safe?"" Ha ha, good film | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging." Why should fab have to produce explicit warnings? If you're old enough to fuck someone you meet through here, you should know how to be safe. It's up to people to judge what their particular brand of safe is. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging." Fab already does give advise on how to stay safe, it's just that people don't read the FAQs that are offered. What else do you expect fab to do? | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging." its called common sense. if people dont use it, they learn to.. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging. Why should fab have to produce explicit warnings? If you're old enough to fuck someone you meet through here, you should know how to be safe. It's up to people to judge what their particular brand of safe is. " This. I totally agree with this. A website cannot be to blame for the actions of a person. Next we'll be blaming Facebook when the house gets robbed when we posted pictures of the expensive Christmas presents up then a status saying away for the weekend. | |||
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"Because its not always about age. People of any age believe they've won the Nigerian lottery only to find that the bank account details that they emailed have been used to clear out their account. Youve obviously got all your eggs in one basket, but not everybody is as emotionally stable or mature." But how would the site police that? I agree there are people who I think are incredibly misinformed in being here, it's not my place or the site's place to make that call though. | |||
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".. the news is currently busy with stories of rapes and murders of men and women committed with the help of internet dating websites. Are fabsters too aware to be at risk? " Statistically, if you drive to a meet, you are more likely to be killed getting there than being there. It's just a question of recognising risks, minimising them and being sensible. Mr ddc | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging." They do. It's somewhere on the site think it's called tips on meeting. I remember reading it when I joined. Xxx | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging." and they do, its in faqs. Have you read what it says? What more would you like them to add | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging.and they do, its in faqs. Have you read what it says? What more would you like them to add" Are the FAQ's available from the mobile site? | |||
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"Because its not always about age. People of any age believe they've won the Nigerian lottery only to find that the bank account details that they emailed have been used to clear out their account. Youve obviously got all your eggs in one basket, but not everybody is as emotionally stable or mature. But how would the site police that? I agree there are people who I think are incredibly misinformed in being here, it's not my place or the site's place to make that call though. " It's not about asking the site to police it (I think?) but just to have info posted around the site about safety when meeting. Not just in the FAQ. Maybe a banner at the top of the site? I think it's a good idea. Some people really are genuinely clueless. For a variety of reasons. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging.and they do, its in faqs. Have you read what it says? What more would you like them to add Are the FAQ's available from the mobile site? " Yes they are | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging.and they do, its in faqs. Have you read what it says? What more would you like them to add Are the FAQ's available from the mobile site? Yes they are " At the bottom of each page. xxx | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging.and they do, its in faqs. Have you read what it says? What more would you like them to add Are the FAQ's available from the mobile site? Yes they are At the bottom of each page. xxx" Oh yeah! Definitely "check the small print" not exactly explicit. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging.and they do, its in faqs. Have you read what it says? What more would you like them to add Are the FAQ's available from the mobile site? Yes they are At the bottom of each page. xxx Oh yeah! Definitely "check the small print" not exactly explicit. " If I remember rightly you are pointed towards them when you join. Xxx | |||
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"People will always do things their own way I think im very strict with my checks but im sure if someone wanted to rape or murder me they are not going to advertize it. If my gut instinct kicks in for whatever reason i dont meet. I cover myself as much as i can" I don't. I take my clothes off as soon as possible. | |||
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"The verification system makes it feel pretty safe to me " But does it really work? We all have to take reasonable steps to stay safe, most on here are adults and we make our own choices of what we want to do. | |||
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"People will always do things their own way I think im very strict with my checks but im sure if someone wanted to rape or murder me they are not going to advertize it. If my gut instinct kicks in for whatever reason i dont meet. I cover myself as much as i can I don't. I take my clothes off as soon as possible. " or sooner | |||
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"I've got a warning written on my profile to my stalker who keeps creating fake profiles, fakes pics, kik and whatsapp to meet me. He came 3 times to my place becauseof this. I've told him loads of times to F.O but yet after a few weeks he'll try again thinking that I have forgotten about it. A proper weirdo. Now I've bought myself a big baseball bat and I'll make sure that I'll chase him downstairs and showed him the true meaning of F.O " And therein lies one of the issues...even if we take every precaution to safeguard ourselves, there are always going to be others who feel they can invade our privacy etc | |||
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"I don't meet murderers, so I'm alright. " I eat murderers for breakfast, so that's also alright | |||
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"I dunno. Lots of different opinions. I see the tips on keeping safe. But they're hardly explicit. If a banner at the top/bottom of the page reminds one single person to hesitate before meeting to make a final check that ultimately saves them getting abused, then its done its job. Life is a risk and everyone of course has the right of free choice. " How would explicit rules help, how could they be enforced and by whom. What good would a banner do to make a person safer? If there are people on here with malicious intent its not as tho they are going to advertise the fact in advance is it? I agree with the Professor, the buddy system is a simple way to take what steps you can to ensure your safety and as a single woman whose preference is for one to one meets it is one I have adopted. It does not offer 100% safety but its the best I can do if I want to continue this lifestyle. We are all responsible for our own wellbeing and sexual health, I would not rely on anyone else to take responsibility for either. | |||
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"Not heard of anyone getting murdered, raped or maimed through meeting online to fuck recently. Plenty of other horror stories but nothing about online - online seems pretty safe!" Well apart from this dude http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38045742 | |||
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"Not heard of anyone getting murdered, raped or maimed through meeting online to fuck recently. Plenty of other horror stories but nothing about online - online seems pretty safe! Well apart from this dude http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38045742" Well, apart from that perhaps. I don't like keeping up with the gory side of life. | |||
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"I think everyone should take responsibility for their own safety. I'm often horrified by the risks people take." This! | |||
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"Not heard of anyone getting murdered, raped or maimed through meeting online to fuck recently. Plenty of other horror stories but nothing about online - online seems pretty safe! Well apart from this dude http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38045742 Well, apart from that perhaps. I don't like keeping up with the gory side of life. " I hadn't seen anything about it till yesterday. Can't help feeling if it wasn't gay men being murdered the case might have got more attention | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging." Really?!! Do you honestly think a "warning" will prevent people meeting?!! | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging. Why should fab have to produce explicit warnings? If you're old enough to fuck someone you meet through here, you should know how to be safe. It's up to people to judge what their particular brand of safe is. " Exactly!!! I despair! | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging. Why should fab have to produce explicit warnings? If you're old enough to fuck someone you meet through here, you should know how to be safe. It's up to people to judge what their particular brand of safe is. This. I totally agree with this. A website cannot be to blame for the actions of a person. Next we'll be blaming Facebook when the house gets robbed when we posted pictures of the expensive Christmas presents up then a status saying away for the weekend." for real! | |||
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"Not heard of anyone getting murdered, raped or maimed through meeting online to fuck recently. Plenty of other horror stories but nothing about online - online seems pretty safe! Well apart from this dude http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38045742 Well, apart from that perhaps. I don't like keeping up with the gory side of life. " there was also a woman murdered at christmas on her first date from pof | |||
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"The verification system makes it feel pretty safe to me But does it really work? We all have to take reasonable steps to stay safe, most on here are adults and we make our own choices of what we want to do. " Personally, the thought of meeting a total stranger for sex on the say so of another total stranger is ludicrous to me. I think some people suspend common sense and omit due diligence because fannybygaslight22 said bigballsofire69 had a cock to die for! | |||
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"Not heard of anyone getting murdered, raped or maimed through meeting online to fuck recently. Plenty of other horror stories but nothing about online - online seems pretty safe! Well apart from this dude http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38045742 Well, apart from that perhaps. I don't like keeping up with the gory side of life. I hadn't seen anything about it till yesterday. Can't help feeling if it wasn't gay men being murdered the case might have got more attention " That's what the last victims sister said on the news yesterday. Shocking catalogue of mistakes by the police. So much so they reported themselves to the IPCC. | |||
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"It's more about making the warning on the metaphorical pack of cigarettes bigger. " Yes and not everyone is like the aforementioned friend. If friends have little influence in preventing dangerous decisions being made, I fail to see how an enlarged warning will do so. People with negative intentions aren't going to think twice and quite often are adept at hiding any. I'll run with the cigarette packet analogy - if people choose to smoke them, they do. It's well documented and broadcast the health risks. If friends aren't able to have an influencing effect to stop that dangerous behaviour, a few words of warning aren't likely to affect it either. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging. Why should fab have to produce explicit warnings? If you're old enough to fuck someone you meet through here, you should know how to be safe. It's up to people to judge what their particular brand of safe is. " Oh, this | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging. Fab already does give advise on how to stay safe, it's just that people don't read the FAQs that are offered. What else do you expect fab to do?" | |||
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"Like anything, it depends on how people use it and the precautions that individuals take when meeting. But the news is currently busy with stories of rapes and murders of men and women committed with the help of internet dating websites. Are fabsters too aware to be at risk? I worry that there are some very vulnerable people on this site." The media take a low percentage of crime and sensationalise make it sound like its a much larger % and common place on every street. Thats not to say dangers couldn't exist here or the deaths of low % of anyone from anywhere are acceptable. The type of people ready/wanting to commit rape & murder will do so by whatever means at whatever opportunity. It could be a priv date with someone stranger or friend they've met offline just as much as it could be with someone they met online. Be as savvy as you can offline and online. | |||
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"I don't meet murderers, so I'm alright. " That shouldn't have made me giggle,but... | |||
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"Hate to say it, but I do think there's a need for fab to make explicit warnings and give advice about how to be safe - unless I'm totally missing it. I know it runs against the free-thinking each-to-their own ethos of swinging. Why should fab have to produce explicit warnings? If you're old enough to fuck someone you meet through here, you should know how to be safe. It's up to people to judge what their particular brand of safe is. " Yep | |||
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"verifications, if it says "she was a mad bitch " going on some incessant status updates and forever ranting some inadvertently spell out much before arrrggghhhh reality smacks their meet/s in the jaw | |||
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"I don't meet murderers, so I'm alright. " I always ask "are you a murderer?" | |||
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"Probably as safe as any online setup. The key thing is being safe. Meet in a public place. Have people know where you are and that will check in on you. If it seems unsafe don't take chances." If anyone doesn't do this then they are mad | |||
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"I don't meet murderers, so I'm alright. I always ask "are you a murderer?" " I'd say yes and think shouldn't have said that | |||
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"I don't meet murderers, so I'm alright. I always ask "are you a murderer?" I'd say yes and think shouldn't have said that " Probably would still meet you | |||
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"Probably as safe as any online setup. The key thing is being safe. Meet in a public place. Have people know where you are and that will check in on you. If it seems unsafe don't take chances. If anyone doesn't do this then they are mad " Hmmm that explains thing's... | |||
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"From bbc website: The number of people reporting being raped on their first date with someone they met on a dating app has risen six-fold in five years, figures show. There were 184 rape allegations in the UK in 2014, up from 33 in 2009, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said. There was some evidence of coercion and persuasion being used by offenders to encourage, often reluctant, victims to meet sooner than they would like. I struggle to understand why people are so against an effort to make people more aware of the dangers. Yes, of course the majority of people on fab are sensible and aware, but there are people who dont always consider the risk or who are coerced into meeting. Not everyone is secure in their sexuality or has a network of friends. A gentle reminder to be aware is surely a good thing? A sign of a strong community in which we support each other. Anyway, I'll get back into my box. " As I once said to a prospective meet: "You'll notice that at least some of my veris have logged on since we met, so they can't all be buried under my patio".... | |||
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"From bbc website: The number of people reporting being raped on their first date with someone they met on a dating app has risen six-fold in five years, figures show. There were 184 rape allegations in the UK in 2014, up from 33 in 2009, the National Crime Agency (NCA) said. There was some evidence of coercion and persuasion being used by offenders to encourage, often reluctant, victims to meet sooner than they would like. I struggle to understand why people are so against an effort to make people more aware of the dangers. Yes, of course the majority of people on fab are sensible and aware, but there are people who dont always consider the risk or who are coerced into meeting. Not everyone is secure in their sexuality or has a network of friends. A gentle reminder to be aware is surely a good thing? A sign of a strong community in which we support each other. Anyway, I'll get back into my box. " fully agree but u have to realise some of the sites mentioned have multiples of hundreds if not thousands of Users compared to this site... the odds here are in you favour not to be murdered... if that's any consolation lol | |||
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