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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So, I've just read this article regarding the censorship of porn videos.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/23/censor-non-conventional-sex-acts-online-internet-pornography

I know this may have been discussed before but I couldn't find anything recent.

A quote from the article:

'Pictures and videos that show spanking, whipping or caning that leaves marks, and sex acts involving urination, female ejaculation or menstruation as well as sex in public are likely to be caught by the ban – in effect turning back the clock on Britain’s censorship regime to the pre-internet era.'

I wonder what sort of impact this will have on fab and other similar sites. I'm aware that some of these acts aren't allowed on profile pics, but there are some grey areas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The best videos are the extreme ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

Shit has Mary Whitehouse come back to haunt us I'll never be able to wank again if they ban to much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

'Im not surprised at all.

We have become one of the most censored nations in the world and have the gall to call Russia among st others.

I want a return to free speech as well I'm fed up with weak folk that get upset cos i don't agree with their point of view. rant over sorry

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"
not sure that fab have banned these as we have seen pics like this as public ones when viewing profiles as they have not been rejected by mods?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"

I've seen female ejaculation pics as well as bums with bruises and welts etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab already censors these, we have had so many photos rejected on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

I've seen female ejaculation pics as well as bums with bruises and welts etc "

We only have a few as fab rejected ones already on our profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember reading about this shit a while ago. It's particularly offensive that they class female ejaculation as extreme... like it's taboo to watch a woman experiencing sexual pleasure! They clearly shouldn't be having fun, they are just there to cook and have babies!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I remember reading about this shit a while ago. It's particularly offensive that they class female ejaculation as extreme... like it's taboo to watch a woman experiencing sexual pleasure! They clearly shouldn't be having fun, they are just there to cook and have babies!! "

Exactly. Can I make you a sandwich?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I remember reading about this shit a while ago. It's particularly offensive that they class female ejaculation as extreme... like it's taboo to watch a woman experiencing sexual pleasure! They clearly shouldn't be having fun, they are just there to cook and have babies!!

Exactly. Can I make you a sandwich?"

I'd rather you squirted all over me tbh!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More people will use paid proxies or VPNs. So if you're wanting to start a business, possibly something to invest in.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Others will know better than me, but are they 'just' enforcing existing laws which effectively make bdsm illegal or a grey area.

A quick search shows criminal cases meaning inflicting actual bodily harm is illegal, regardless of consent.

I'm not making out any of this is ban is right. I'm just highlighting them maybe enforcing something that is already the case.

If that is true then the law behind it should be reviewed.

Any BDSM experts here who know the full answer??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I remember reading about this shit a while ago. It's particularly offensive that they class female ejaculation as extreme... like it's taboo to watch a woman experiencing sexual pleasure! They clearly shouldn't be having fun, they are just there to cook and have babies!!

Exactly. Can I make you a sandwich?

I'd rather you squirted all over me tbh!! "

Can't help you there!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I remember reading about this shit a while ago. It's particularly offensive that they class female ejaculation as extreme... like it's taboo to watch a woman experiencing sexual pleasure! They clearly shouldn't be having fun, they are just there to cook and have babies!!

Exactly. Can I make you a sandwich?"

Ham and pease pudding please.

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By *ubble troubleCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

This is mixed in with the overall effects of the IP Bill / Snooper's Charter but when I raised the issue here before, the reaction was "meh".

People don't give a fuck about any of this until it smacks them in the face and then they start whining that they were not told. Same with Brexit.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

My view is that if acts are lawful in themselves and between consenting adults then the government has no business policing whether they end up as videos.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

The changes start in April when the BBC takes control of our internet, all adult pics & films will be banned including swinging sites.

Only those passed by the BBC will be able to operate as long as you pay the big fee they ask for, one of the luxuries of Brexit is that the UK can now ban anything they choose to & without the EU to say it's against our human rights & protect us we are now fucked.

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By *edylogosMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"'Im not surprised at all.

We have become one of the most censored nations in the world and have the gall to call Russia among st others.

I want a return to free speech as well I'm fed up with weak folk that get upset cos i don't agree with their point of view. rant over sorry "

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is mixed in with the overall effects of the IP Bill / Snooper's Charter but when I raised the issue here before, the reaction was "meh".

People don't give a fuck about any of this until it smacks them in the face and then they start whining that they were not told. Same with Brexit."

This is partly my point, people are already saying 'fab already does this'

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter.

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By *reygorCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

be the same as 30 years ago .the black market in banned vids will BOOM BOOM BOOM.because the people will always get what the people want.[does this include gay guys anal penertration ?]dont think it will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The changes start in April when the BBC takes control of our internet, all adult pics & films will be banned including swinging sites.

Only those passed by the BBC will be able to operate as long as you pay the big fee they ask for, one of the luxuries of Brexit is that the UK can now ban anything they choose to & without the EU to say it's against our human rights & protect us we are now fucked."

Rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is mixed in with the overall effects of the IP Bill / Snooper's Charter but when I raised the issue here before, the reaction was "meh".

People don't give a fuck about any of this until it smacks them in the face and then they start whining that they were not told. Same with Brexit.

This is partly my point, people are already saying 'fab already does this'

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter. "

So fab could get blocked from UK users?

I know i whinge about this site sometimes but noooooo!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The changes start in April when the BBC takes control of our internet, all adult pics & films will be banned including swinging sites.

Only those passed by the BBC will be able to operate as long as you pay the big fee they ask for, one of the luxuries of Brexit is that the UK can now ban anything they choose to & without the EU to say it's against our human rights & protect us we are now fucked.

Rubbish "
By leaving the eu, so does our human rights as the current one is governed by the eu.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

I was supposed to say BBFC not BBC lol, yes we join the ranks of India & China as one of the only other countries censored with what we watch, they are also trying to censor political material too but with Brexit on the horizon they will wait for that one.

All the main professional adult sites including ours have had to be relocated abroad because this is a definate, it don't only stop with all adult pics & films as audio is now on the list too.

Web camming will be illegal with a list of other things mainly to do with S&M.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

The act of leaving the EU does not automatically reduce human rights. We would have to repeal the Human Rights Act and un-sign the UN Convention on Human Rights to do that.

Plus...for the next two years or so ae are still in the EU. So thid has nothing to do with Brexit.

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By *ubble troubleCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

I think you mean BBFC British Board of Film Classification ?

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"The changes start in April when the BBC takes control of our internet, all adult pics & films will be banned including swinging sites.

Only those passed by the BBC will be able to operate as long as you pay the big fee they ask for, one of the luxuries of Brexit is that the UK can now ban anything they choose to & without the EU to say it's against our human rights & protect us we are now fucked.

Rubbish By leaving the eu, so does our human rights as the current one is governed by the eu."

Yes all these Brexit will get all they wished for...I don't think lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is mixed in with the overall effects of the IP Bill / Snooper's Charter but when I raised the issue here before, the reaction was "meh".

People don't give a fuck about any of this until it smacks them in the face and then they start whining that they were not told. Same with Brexit.

This is partly my point, people are already saying 'fab already does this'

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter.

So fab could get blocked from UK users?

I know i whinge about this site sometimes but noooooo!!!"

I can't say for sure myself, that's why I put up this thread.

I'm just concerned that we're all sleep walking into this. Swinging sites could get caught up in this attack on porn.

Reminds me of this scene from The Simpsons

https://youtu.be/lKPZDq9IQIU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The changes start in April when the BBC takes control of our internet, all adult pics & films will be banned including swinging sites.

Only those passed by the BBC will be able to operate as long as you pay the big fee they ask for, one of the luxuries of Brexit is that the UK can now ban anything they choose to & without the EU to say it's against our human rights & protect us we are now fucked.

Rubbish By leaving the eu, so does our human rights as the current one is governed by the eu.

Yes all these Brexit will get all they wished for...I don't think lol "
That is right, they will still be in the eu lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

I've seen female ejaculation pics as well as bums with bruises and welts etc "

I've seen enema ejaculated videos and balls bruised & tortured...so there !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

I've seen female ejaculation pics as well as bums with bruises and welts etc

I've seen enema ejaculated videos and balls bruised & tortured...so there !! "

On fab?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is mixed in with the overall effects of the IP Bill / Snooper's Charter but when I raised the issue here before, the reaction was "meh".

People don't give a fuck about any of this until it smacks them in the face and then they start whining that they were not told. Same with Brexit.

This is partly my point, people are already saying 'fab already does this'

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter.

So fab could get blocked from UK users?

I know i whinge about this site sometimes but noooooo!!!

I can't say for sure myself, that's why I put up this thread.

I'm just concerned that we're all sleep walking into this. Swinging sites could get caught up in this attack on porn.

Reminds me of this scene from The Simpsons

https://youtu.be/lKPZDq9IQIU"

i didn't even know there was a possibility of this happening.

gonna take a lot more guys numbers now.

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By *huckzMan
over a year ago

spalding


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"
.........natural yes but videos showing it or photos. ...just wrong

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By *huckzMan
over a year ago

spalding


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"
.........natural yes but videos showing it or photos. ...just wrong

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By *litheroevoyeurMan
over a year ago

Clitheroe


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"

Plenty of female ejaculation pics on fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

.........natural yes but videos showing it or photos. ...just wrong"

that's your opinion though. i don't like blood tbh but by banning certain acts it does change things into becoming unnatural. or taboo, suppose it depends how you look at it.

racism in the manistream media is ok, and stigmatising the disabled but period sex and pee is not?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

The new law will not ban porn sites. The BBFC will be involved in what is acceptable to access.

From the BBFC website:

The following content is not acceptable:

• material which is in breach of the criminal law,

including material judged to be obscene under the

current interpretation of the Obscene Publications Act

1959 (see Annexe)

• material (including dialogue) likely to encourage

an interest in sexually abusive activity which may

include adults role-playing as non-adults

• the portrayal of sexual activity which involves real

or apparent lack of consent. Any form of physical

restraint which prevents participants from indicating a

withdrawal of consent

• the infliction of pain or acts which may cause lasting

physical harm, whether real or (in a sexual context)

simulated. Some allowance may be made for

moderate, non-abusive, consensual activity

• penetration by any object associated with violence or

likely to cause physical harm

• sexual threats, humiliation or abuse which do not

form part of a clearly consenting role-playing game.

Strong physical or verbal abuse, even if consensual, is

unlikely to be acceptable

These Guidelines will be applied to the same

standard regardless of sexual orientation of the

activity portrayed.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter. "

It will give the govt the *legal* means to attempt to block, but not the technical means. Unlike many countries in which internet censorship takes place we do not have a single government-owned internet service provider. We have a number of service providers here and they are commercial entities and are not particularly wanting to be blocking things as

1) It is more work for them to do

2) It opens them up to liability as to what they do/don't block and how effectively they block it

3) They know that if they blocked xhamster (say) they would find a lot of customers moving to a different ISP.

So, yes it is shit, and yes it is furthering the slippery slope towards mass surveillance and censorship (between the twin forced of the IP Bill and the DE Bill). But the reality is that, technically, these blocks will be near impossible to actually carry out without completely crippling our digital economy. Not that I don't doubt the govt would try... they are already hell bent on screwing up the rest of our economy.

-Matt

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town


"So, I've just read this article regarding the censorship of porn videos.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/23/censor-non-conventional-sex-acts-online-internet-pornography

I know this may have been discussed before but I couldn't find anything recent.

A quote from the article:

'Pictures and videos that show spanking, whipping or caning that leaves marks, and sex acts involving urination, female ejaculation or menstruation as well as sex in public are likely to be caught by the ban – in effect turning back the clock on Britain’s censorship regime to the pre-internet era.'

I wonder what sort of impact this will have on fab and other similar sites. I'm aware that some of these acts aren't allowed on profile pics, but there are some grey areas."

Should ban all porn

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

Should ban all porn "

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The changes start in April when the BBC takes control of our internet, all adult pics & films will be banned including swinging sites.

Only those passed by the BBC will be able to operate as long as you pay the big fee they ask for, one of the luxuries of Brexit is that the UK can now ban anything they choose to & without the EU to say it's against our human rights & protect us we are now fucked."

We will still be in the EU in April so will still have all the rights we had prior to the referendum also this bill was drafted long before the referendum so stop talking rubbish, you lose any credibility and the point of your post when you start to try and take cheap political shots.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"

The act was drawn up by men

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner


"We will still be in the EU in April so will still have all the rights we had prior to the referendum also this bill was drafted long before the referendum so stop talking rubbish, you lose any credibility and the point of your post when you start to try and take cheap political shots."

I think he was taking the p*ss.

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt"

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes"

Lol... sorry, I missed the sarcasm of your first post.

-Matt

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Good Show! nice to see our MP's working hard on protecting us from the moral corruption of seeing a frshly spanked bottom which will obviously lead to the total collapse of society as we know it.

Still, on the plus side, we're making a shit load of profit selling arms around the world to bomb the fuck out of people who'vw done nothing to us- just don't mention the war...any war....unless its the crazy russians or the crazy muslims- not that we'd ever sell them weapons of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It'll still be ok to watch guys bareback fucking each other though yeah?

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


" It'll still be ok to watch guys bareback fucking each other though yeah?"

Only if they went to Eton

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Guess who's going to be paying for this? Us. Changes imposed upon the internet, such as has happened before, where adult content restrictions are implemented for mobile/landline internet, cost the tech companies money. We the consumers thus have higher broadband costs levied by the ISPs or the government compensates them, with our (taxpayer funded) cash.

This banning of 'non-conventional' sex acts is wholly inappropriate, where the acts themselves are fully legal. Outdoor sex shots could be banned: so no dogging pics etc Who voted this lot in

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By *ellbound_GhoulwarpWoman
over a year ago

Fifth Circle of Hell

The whole world is going mental! Even going back to last year with all the fucking bullshit regarding female genital piercings

"New NHS rules mean women with genital piercings will be recorded as suffering female genital mutilation"

What a fucking joke! Not even allowed to control what we do with our own bodies.

If they have those feelings why did they even allow Fift Shades of grey to be released in the uk (btw i havent seen it)

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter.

It will give the govt the *legal* means to attempt to block, but not the technical means. Unlike many countries in which internet censorship takes place we do not have a single government-owned internet service provider. We have a number of service providers here and they are commercial entities and are not particularly wanting to be blocking things as

1) It is more work for them to do

2) It opens them up to liability as to what they do/don't block and how effectively they block it

3) They know that if they blocked xhamster (say) they would find a lot of customers moving to a different ISP.

So, yes it is shit, and yes it is furthering the slippery slope towards mass surveillance and censorship (between the twin forced of the IP Bill and the DE Bill). But the reality is that, technically, these blocks will be near impossible to actually carry out without completely crippling our digital economy. Not that I don't doubt the govt would try... they are already hell bent on screwing up the rest of our economy.

-Matt"

The new ruling is called The Digital Act & unlike the BBFC rulings on films all adult pics audio & videos will be blocked by our providers e.g. TalkTalk BT on the net, not even topless will be allowed unless you pay the BBFC to go through your site & ok it.

If the site owners step out of line putting up pics or allowing members to put up pics disallowed they will face closure or possible fines.

Tube sites are to blame as there is no credit card system to stop under 18's so the new laws will protect kids & help adult producers from piracy, we will have to do another site ourselves but it will be watered down to BBFC regs as its better to be part of a 100 BBFC regulated sites than compete with 50,000 sites at the moment.

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes

Lol... sorry, I missed the sarcasm of your first post.

-Matt"

You can get back on your high horse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

.........natural yes but videos showing it or photos. ...just wrong"

Why "wrong"? You may not like it - I'm sure plenty don't - but to say it's "wrong" implies you think it would somehow corrupt or damage people.

Utter bollocks.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes

Lol... sorry, I missed the sarcasm of your first post.

-Matt

You can get back on your high horse "

I'm not on a high horse. I seriously thought you actually meant it when you stated all porn should be banned because you say so. I didn't realise you were being sarcastic. So much crazy in the news at the moment, I've started to lose the ability to spot what is real and what is satire or sarcasm.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter.

It will give the govt the *legal* means to attempt to block, but not the technical means. Unlike many countries in which internet censorship takes place we do not have a single government-owned internet service provider. We have a number of service providers here and they are commercial entities and are not particularly wanting to be blocking things as

1) It is more work for them to do

2) It opens them up to liability as to what they do/don't block and how effectively they block it

3) They know that if they blocked xhamster (say) they would find a lot of customers moving to a different ISP.

So, yes it is shit, and yes it is furthering the slippery slope towards mass surveillance and censorship (between the twin forced of the IP Bill and the DE Bill). But the reality is that, technically, these blocks will be near impossible to actually carry out without completely crippling our digital economy. Not that I don't doubt the govt would try... they are already hell bent on screwing up the rest of our economy.

-Matt

The new ruling is called The Digital Act & unlike the BBFC rulings on films all adult pics audio & videos will be blocked by our providers e.g. TalkTalk BT on the net, not even topless will be allowed unless you pay the BBFC to go through your site & ok it.

If the site owners step out of line putting up pics or allowing members to put up pics disallowed they will face closure or possible fines.

Tube sites are to blame as there is no credit card system to stop under 18's so the new laws will protect kids & help adult producers from piracy, we will have to do another site ourselves but it will be watered down to BBFC regs as its better to be part of a 100 BBFC regulated sites than compete with 50,000 sites at the moment."

Sites will face closure or fines? How do you envisage the UK govt imposing closures and fines on sites hosted outside the UK and in a different legal jurisdiction? Hint: they can't. The only thing they could attempt to do is block those sites. Which will be like playing whack-a-mole. Each one they block, and another will just appear. Not only that but there are plenty of means to very simple, cheaply and easily side step any blocking by using any of the many VPN services out there. And the govt could block those? Well yes, they could, but would pretty much prevent any remote workers for any significant company being able to do their job.

What they are proposing is not technically feasible and won't achieve any of the aims they are trying to achieve. They would be much better spent actually looking at education than a futile attempt at blocking things.

-Matt

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes

Lol... sorry, I missed the sarcasm of your first post.

-Matt

You can get back on your high horse

I'm not on a high horse. I seriously thought you actually meant it when you stated all porn should be banned because you say so. I didn't realise you were being sarcastic. So much crazy in the news at the moment, I've started to lose the ability to spot what is real and what is satire or sarcasm.

-Matt"

Nothing should be taken seriously especially on fab

Would you like some cake, while your on your high horse

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

I'm no legal expert (Law was too hard, so I did Criminology instead) but leaving the EU makes no difference to our human rights; we're still covered by the Human Rights Act (1998) until this government attempts to repeal it and replace it with a Bill of Rights, which they announced in the Queen's Speech. You're also covered by the Equality Act (2010) until they try to get rid of that as well. The only difference is that you won't be able to appeal to the ECJ once we're out of Europe.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

Time for a bit of reworking of a classic. Please don't take offence Pastor Niemöller changed his poem a number of times.

First they came for the Imigrants, and I did not speak out because I was a Imigrant.

Then they came for the exhibitionists, and I did not speak out because I was not an exhibitionist.

And then they came for the .....

(The question is what will be the rest of the next verse?)

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All of our bdsm photos have been rejected today

Seems we are too kinky for fab, our time on here may be limited. I only bloody upgraded today ffs. "

upload them somewhere else, use the same username?

can't really be helped that fab has to adhere to uk laws. not sure if using a forieign host for the site would help?

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I interpret in this article the Bill will allow the government to block sites that show certain activity - so the fab admins will have to become much stricter.

It will give the govt the *legal* means to attempt to block, but not the technical means. Unlike many countries in which internet censorship takes place we do not have a single government-owned internet service provider. We have a number of service providers here and they are commercial entities and are not particularly wanting to be blocking things as

1) It is more work for them to do

2) It opens them up to liability as to what they do/don't block and how effectively they block it

3) They know that if they blocked xhamster (say) they would find a lot of customers moving to a different ISP.

So, yes it is shit, and yes it is furthering the slippery slope towards mass surveillance and censorship (between the twin forced of the IP Bill and the DE Bill). But the reality is that, technically, these blocks will be near impossible to actually carry out without completely crippling our digital economy. Not that I don't doubt the govt would try... they are already hell bent on screwing up the rest of our economy.

-Matt

The new ruling is called The Digital Act & unlike the BBFC rulings on films all adult pics audio & videos will be blocked by our providers e.g. TalkTalk BT on the net, not even topless will be allowed unless you pay the BBFC to go through your site & ok it.

If the site owners step out of line putting up pics or allowing members to put up pics disallowed they will face closure or possible fines.

Tube sites are to blame as there is no credit card system to stop under 18's so the new laws will protect kids & help adult producers from piracy, we will have to do another site ourselves but it will be watered down to BBFC regs as its better to be part of a 100 BBFC regulated sites than compete with 50,000 sites at the moment.

Sites will face closure or fines? How do you envisage the UK govt imposing closures and fines on sites hosted outside the UK and in a different legal jurisdiction? Hint: they can't. The only thing they could attempt to do is block those sites. Which will be like playing whack-a-mole. Each one they block, and another will just appear. Not only that but there are plenty of means to very simple, cheaply and easily side step any blocking by using any of the many VPN services out there. And the govt could block those? Well yes, they could, but would pretty much prevent any remote workers for any significant company being able to do their job.

What they are proposing is not technically feasible and won't achieve any of the aims they are trying to achieve. They would be much better spent actually looking at education than a futile attempt at blocking things.

-Matt"

Sites outside the UK are not accountable to the BBFC but providers will block any adult site here or abroad, proxy servers will be set up like people use in China to view banned stuff...could have been worse as Facebook & Twitter were on the hit list at first.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

If the government gets its own way on this you would be blocked from these other sites by your internet service providers. Whilst there are ways to bypass such restrictions I would guess its only time before making any attempt to do so will also become verboten (probably at risk of your liberty).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"All of our bdsm photos have been rejected today

Seems we are too kinky for fab, our time on here may be limited. I only bloody upgraded today ffs.

upload them somewhere else, use the same username?

can't really be helped that fab has to adhere to uk laws. not sure if using a forieign host for the site would help?"

The bill hasn't been made law yet, but there's already inconsistency on fab.

There are fetish sites to post on, which we also use. But even if they're hosted outside the UK they could still be blocked by UK ISPs.

But as others have said, it could be unworkable from a technical point of view.

Reminds me of something a law student friend at Uni told me, it's technically illegal to spit in the street. But when was the last time you saw that enforced?

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes

Lol... sorry, I missed the sarcasm of your first post.

-Matt

You can get back on your high horse

I'm not on a high horse. I seriously thought you actually meant it when you stated all porn should be banned because you say so. I didn't realise you were being sarcastic. So much crazy in the news at the moment, I've started to lose the ability to spot what is real and what is satire or sarcasm.

-Matt

Nothing should be taken seriously especially on fab

Would you like some cake, while your on your high horse "

Ooooh cake. Now you are talking. Still no idea what this horse is you are taking about.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All of our bdsm photos have been rejected today

Seems we are too kinky for fab, our time on here may be limited. I only bloody upgraded today ffs.

upload them somewhere else, use the same username?

can't really be helped that fab has to adhere to uk laws. not sure if using a forieign host for the site would help?

The bill hasn't been made law yet, but there's already inconsistency on fab.

There are fetish sites to post on, which we also use. But even if they're hosted outside the UK they could still be blocked by UK ISPs.

But as others have said, it could be unworkable from a technical point of view.

Reminds me of something a law student friend at Uni told me, it's technically illegal to spit in the street. But when was the last time you saw that enforced? "

yeah true, loads of illegal stuff goes on, which is why prisons are full of the ones who got caught.

i used to know a lot about hosting and that, can't really remember much of it now and it might be out of date anyway.

i've noticed its getting harder to find online free movies and that, the new ones, but not impossible yet.

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town


"

Should ban all porn

Why?

Let alone, how?

-Matt

Because I said do

And how? I will be having words with Teresa aka Tes

Lol... sorry, I missed the sarcasm of your first post.

-Matt

You can get back on your high horse

I'm not on a high horse. I seriously thought you actually meant it when you stated all porn should be banned because you say so. I didn't realise you were being sarcastic. So much crazy in the news at the moment, I've started to lose the ability to spot what is real and what is satire or sarcasm.

-Matt

Nothing should be taken seriously especially on fab

Would you like some cake, while your on your high horse

Ooooh cake. Now you are talking. Still no idea what this horse is you are taking about.

-Matt"

He has ran of with the blacks man dog

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

Nothing should be taken seriously especially on fab

Would you like some cake, while your on your high horse

Ooooh cake. Now you are talking. Still no idea what this horse is you are taking about.

-Matt

He has ran of with the blacks man dog"

OK, you've completely lost me now. As you've steered the thread completely off topic I guess best we leave it there.

-Matt

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

We live in a police state not a free country so nothing surprises me about our crazy laws compared to the relaxed laws of Europe, can the UK implicate such measures we will see.

I personally think it impossible but they are threatening adult produers who have adult sites hence why I based myself in the States a few years back.

In theory being one of a few legal sites would be heaven for webmasters as an earner so most of us that are still going will opt for a BBFC controlled site here & keep our others sites for the free countries that can view xxx material.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"

So is taking a pic dump

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town


"

Nothing should be taken seriously especially on fab

Would you like some cake, while your on your high horse

Ooooh cake. Now you are talking. Still no idea what this horse is you are taking about.

-Matt

He has ran of with the blacks man dog

OK, you've completely lost me now. As you've steered the thread completely off topic I guess best we leave it there.

-Matt"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The act of leaving the EU does not automatically reduce human rights. We would have to repeal the Human Rights Act and un-sign the UN Convention on Human Rights to do that.

Plus...for the next two years or so ae are still in the EU. So thid has nothing to do with Brexit."

Exactly and we are free to chose to implement our own human rights legislation.

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By *upersexy SuperslutCouple
over a year ago

Glastonbury

This is so stupid. The MPs are saying that it is to protect children but this law will push people into using the dark Web in search of the consensual kink they have been enjoying. There they will find the non consensual stuff, actual rape porn, kiddy porn, all the real nasty stuff. Unfortunately, some people will be turned on by this and investigate further which is theoretically but entirely possibly going to lead to more of this material being produced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What was that what people said at the referendum about us being able to create our own laws? Well there you go stop complaining.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

"

I've been having a poke around at this, none of the applicable Acts relating to pics or vids specifically mention menstruation, but I can see how sites could include it. Actual physical harm is not allowed, and while there are no definite guidelines I can find, bleeding would be an obvious one. So simply to play it safe, any pictures showing any blood would be removed by sites to avoid the risk of prosecution.

OP: As for the rest of it, it is already illegal to make these videos in the UK, so technically this law simply closes a loophole which only existed because a few years ago it was thought no-one could police the net.

Our own laws on obscene pics & vids, currently enforced by this site, were supposedly tightened specifically because there was no way to prevent minors from accessing them. Perhaps, if internet providers show they are able to restrict content, coupled with an effective age-verification system, perhaps in future the limits on what can be shown may be relaxed once again.

I know it might seem a little goody-two-shoes, but I quite like an end of the "Wild-West" era of the internet, and a little more policing of it.

It's been a bit of a nightmare worrying about teenagers,at times, if I'm honest.

Mr ddc

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"

Our own laws on obscene pics & vids, currently enforced by this site, were supposedly tightened specifically because there was no way to prevent minors from accessing them. Perhaps, if internet providers show they are able to restrict content, coupled with an effective age-verification system, perhaps in future the limits on what can be shown may be relaxed once again. "

This however is the point that many people are missing here. The government is requiring that sites implement an age-verification system for these sites. Even if we leave behind the futility of implementing this in one country, when we are talking about an international network... how exactly are they going to implement this age verification system? What criteria are you going to use in order to prove someone is over 18?

Ever been to a website for an alcohol company? They simply ask you for your date of birth. Clearly that is not going to be of much use. The next common pattern you see is taking a credit card number in order to verify age. This is on the assumption that only over-18s have credit cards. Again, even if you leave behind the idea of how easy it is to grab mum and dad's card...

What is going to end up happening is that there will be large databases of credit card details or other personal identifiable information being collated. These collections of information are worth a lot of money in the wrong hands. This is assuming that the random porn website you just found and which just asked for you credit card details is legit to begin with. Not only are there going to be big troves of things like credit card data, but also by the very nature of the site, details that Mr Jones, of 5 Dingleberry St has just registered on midgets-love-cake-farts dot com.

This is also one of the main reasons that the other lovely bill just being passed, the IP Bill is again so dangerous... that is the one requiring ISPs to record the browsing habits of every UK subscriber for a year. And have you seen the list of the organisations that are allowed access to it? It includes people like the Food Standards Agency. wtf?! Again, no technical thought has gone into how this will actually work. The cost is going to be astronomical and the end result will be a very valuable trove of the entire browsing history of the nation. And considering pretty much every week there is another story of a govt agency screwing up private data...

Anyways... enough of a rant...

-Matt

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

My phone has been age-verified, so I just use that. So has my credit card.

Just imagine, if everyone had to prove they were over 18 somehow, just think how many fakes & trolls we might permanently lose?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"fab already banned all this type of pics.

i didnt know menustration had been banned, wtf? that's natural.

I've been having a poke around at this, none of the applicable Acts relating to pics or vids specifically mention menstruation, but I can see how sites could include it. Actual physical harm is not allowed, and while there are no definite guidelines I can find, bleeding would be an obvious one. So simply to play it safe, any pictures showing any blood would be removed by sites to avoid the risk of prosecution.

OP: As for the rest of it, it is already illegal to make these videos in the UK, so technically this law simply closes a loophole which only existed because a few years ago it was thought no-one could police the net.

Our own laws on obscene pics & vids, currently enforced by this site, were supposedly tightened specifically because there was no way to prevent minors from accessing them. Perhaps, if internet providers show they are able to restrict content, coupled with an effective age-verification system, perhaps in future the limits on what can be shown may be relaxed once again.

I know it might seem a little goody-two-shoes, but I quite like an end of the "Wild-West" era of the internet, and a little more policing of it.

It's been a bit of a nightmare worrying about teenagers,at times, if I'm honest.

Mr ddc"

i remember the breaking in virgins porn (no idea how, it's not something that would interest me) and i used to wonder if they ust used women on their period for that, lol.

my 16 yr old has a CC. dunno if any sites would get his age from that though?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"

Mr ddc

i remember the breaking in virgins porn (no idea how, it's not something that would interest me) and i used to wonder if they ust used women on their period for that, lol.

my 16 yr old has a CC. dunno if any sites would get his age from that though?"

There comes a point when the teenagers know more about this stuff than we do

Ours used to be quite good at pretending I had to enter my password before he could download games. Until we went away for a few days and I discovered he'd learnt how to bypass it months before

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"

my 16 yr old has a CC. dunno if any sites would get his age from that though?"

Thought you had to be 18 to have a cc issued?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"

my 16 yr old has a CC. dunno if any sites would get his age from that though?

Thought you had to be 18 to have a cc issued?"

Possibly a debit card. In the old days a debit card would be enough to class you as over 18, even if you weren't, much like a provisional driving licence would. Nowadays the software seems to be able to distinguish between credit & debit cards. So don't know

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"

Our own laws on obscene pics & vids, currently enforced by this site, were supposedly tightened specifically because there was no way to prevent minors from accessing them. Perhaps, if internet providers show they are able to restrict content, coupled with an effective age-verification system, perhaps in future the limits on what can be shown may be relaxed once again.

This however is the point that many people are missing here. The government is requiring that sites implement an age-verification system for these sites. Even if we leave behind the futility of implementing this in one country, when we are talking about an international network... how exactly are they going to implement this age verification system? What criteria are you going to use in order to prove someone is over 18?

Ever been to a website for an alcohol company? They simply ask you for your date of birth. Clearly that is not going to be of much use. The next common pattern you see is taking a credit card number in order to verify age. This is on the assumption that only over-18s have credit cards. Again, even if you leave behind the idea of how easy it is to grab mum and dad's card...

What is going to end up happening is that there will be large databases of credit card details or other personal identifiable information being collated. These collections of information are worth a lot of money in the wrong hands. This is assuming that the random porn website you just found and which just asked for you credit card details is legit to begin with. Not only are there going to be big troves of things like credit card data, but also by the very nature of the site, details that Mr Jones, of 5 Dingleberry St has just registered on midgets-love-cake-farts dot com.

This is also one of the main reasons that the other lovely bill just being passed, the IP Bill is again so dangerous... that is the one requiring ISPs to record the browsing habits of every UK subscriber for a year. And have you seen the list of the organisations that are allowed access to it? It includes people like the Food Standards Agency. wtf?! Again, no technical thought has gone into how this will actually work. The cost is going to be astronomical and the end result will be a very valuable trove of the entire browsing history of the nation. And considering pretty much every week there is another story of a govt agency screwing up private data...

Anyways... enough of a rant...

-Matt"

As long as my mam isn't allowed access,

I'm happy.

If she saw my browsing history,

she would keep me in for a month.

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By *tasiaCouple
over a year ago

West Bromwich

This in running if you feel strongly enough about it.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/174167

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This in running if you feel strongly enough about it.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/174167"

done.

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By *tasiaCouple
over a year ago

West Bromwich


"This in running if you feel strongly enough about it.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/174167

done. "
Its got a long way to go but if everyone from Fab signed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This in running if you feel strongly enough about it.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/174167

done.

Its got a long way to go but if everyone from Fab signed... "

shame we can't put it in our status to publicise it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FFS! Will just have to make our own vids then

Ruby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take it then that 50 Shades of Grey will be banned in the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good, who wants to watch unnatural sex acts anyway?

Its not my idea of a good time to watch a man fuck his wife in the same position as he has done for the last 40 years, or two people who have high body confidence fuck without any form of performance anxiety.

I can practically hear every dominatrix within a fifty mile radius of Westminster laugh their heads of as their Wednesday 4pm appointment tells the rest of the country what they can and cant watch.

Thank god for their morality, we would all be lost

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