FabSwingers.com forum: Really hurt and annoyed!!!!

By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

I'm so frustrated with people's _iews on what transgender is it's so frustrating but the worst thing is we have feelings and constantly getting beaten down from something we can't control really upset now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never let strangers who can only be brave behind a keyboard hurt you. You're out here, being who you are and bravely sharing it, and the personal challenges you face which shows real strength.

Some people put up threads to deliberately provoke controversy with very little thought for the actual real consequences of their "sport".

Stay sparkling, you fabulous diamond.

Booby hugs and Snogaroos in your general direction.

Mwah. HHx

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Stay strong! I have a friend that's gone all the way and transgendered and is now the woman that she always wanted to be.

It was a long hard path for her and prejudice and bigotry were everywhere. But she got there

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

You have to focus on the positives rather than the negatives. As far as I can see 99% of the people (on the thread I assume you're referring to) spoke positively about transgender issues.

What would the % have been 20 years ago? Ten years ago? Even 5?

We've come a long way as a society, especially in the last 5 years. Even I have personally with my attitudes and opinions on the subject.

We'll all get there eventually, and sooner rather than later

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Never let strangers who can only be brave behind a keyboard hurt you. You're out here, being who you are and bravely sharing it, and the personal challenges you face which shows real strength.

Some people put up threads to deliberately provoke controversy with very little thought for the actual real consequences of their "sport".

Stay sparkling, you fabulous diamond.

Booby hugs and Snogaroos in your general direction.

Mwah. HHx

This minus the booby hugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can only say/think in my opinion that your playing into the W*****s hands by posting this doll but all the best from me and keep your head up high and f**k the world be you and screw all the narrow minded biggotts

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

Ty everyone had a really bad day and that pushed me over the edge people like that are so closed minded to how difficult this is for us love u all xxxx

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By *a Fee VerteWoman
over a year ago

Limbo

*Some* people's _iews - and hopefully a minority at that. Of course you have feelings, why on earth wouldn't you and there's just no need for unnecessary spite or criticism about who you are. It's beyond me why *some* people feel the need to be so unfeeling and insensitive about matters that don't personally affect them at all ... I mean, judge a transgender person (or anyone) on how responsibly they drive, or how considerate they are towards others by all means ... but, how an individual feels about the person/gender they identify as shouldn't be up for public debate when no-one else can possibly see inside your head or experience your feelings. That probably doesn't make much sense and I might not have phrased it very well but I wanted to respond. Please try not to let ignorant narrow mindedness drag you down. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone has an opinion. But that's all it is.

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

It made perfect sense to me I know exsactly what your saying ty xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't take any notice of that inbred retard. I find it hard to believe the opinion he was sharing was actually his opinion and not a post made deliberately to cause distress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Booby hugs and Snogaroos in your general direction.

Mwah. HHx

Hey over here if they are going around

(Squeaky voice from nowhere)

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By *herbert fountainWoman
over a year ago

Hanley

Don't let the idiots get you down lovely xx

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Don't worry what others think.. They vary rarely do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sadly the idiot is probably reading this and pissing himself laughing.

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

Ty everyone love u all xxxxxxxxx

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By *eady and Willing 9Man
over a year ago

Wherever the party is @

If you let the eediats on here get you down..You're done for!. Wink,smile and kiss yuh teeth and show them your good side. Don't let them get to you as you know you're better than that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No-one can make you feel inferior without your consent..

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By *he Devils Daughter!Woman
over a year ago

some where in yorkshire

"Don't take any notice of that inbred retard. I find it hard to believe the opinion he was sharing was actually his opinion and not a post made deliberately to cause distress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be who you want to be n never let the bastards get you down.

xxx

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

Ty xxxx

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Try not to let them get you down. I know that it can feel like death by a thousand paper cuts. Alas, some people are just dicks.

My wife saw the thread and was in tears from it. Our son is trans and has gone thorough a lot of shit (and unrelated health issues too, he lost his sight a few years back). He is doing really well now and in a strong place. Hopefully you will be too in due course.

How some people can be so wantonly abusive is beyond me. At least it was only one (couple) and hopefully you could see the level of support and understanding from the other 99% of the people who replied.

Hugs.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm guessing the idiot must be on the naughty step after the earlier post, given he's not chipped in on here with some more venom.

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By *atie ShayTV/TS
over a year ago

I feel your pain...

I noticed a post a few days ago - please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the OP post on the thread too.

In said thread a TS referred to people such as myself as "the skid marks of the community" because they have hairy legs.

My reason for not shaving is because of the nature of my career and the sports I partake in.

I found that post very hurtfull and the old "I must just be a weirdo" thoughts have been returning when I previously felt very accepted.

Everyone has different circumstances, why can't we just live and let live

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

"I feel your pain...

I noticed a post a few days ago - please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the OP post on the thread too.

In said thread a TS referred to people such as myself as "the skid marks of the community" because they have hairy legs.

My reason for not shaving is because of the nature of my career and the sports I partake in.

I found that post very hurtfull and the old "I must just be a weirdo" thoughts have been returning when I previously felt very accepted.

Everyone has different circumstances, why can't we just live and let live

My thoughts exactly xxxxxx big loves and hugs all round I think xxx

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Jenny if you reread the whole thread, not one single person shared his _iew. Well not sure if it was a _iew or something just purposely typed to upset people

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

That thread was one person intentionally trying to provoke. The other 175 posts were other people incensed by the attitude shown. That excludes posts that were pulled by the mods for being to strong in the condemnation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stupid little narrow-minded c-units!

Sending lots of hugs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignorance and prejudice go hand in hand. I can imagine how hurtful it must be, but some people get a kick out of their own bigotry and refuse to listen and understand. Their ignorance should never block you on your way to being yourself to the full!

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

I didn't see it and I'm glad I didn't.

You have a good heart right?

If you can answer yes to that, which I'm sure you can, you will find there are people who can make comments that hurt REGARDLESS of the reason for their comment.

Whether it be age, gender, orientation, weight, height, anything and everything.

It's only when you're happy with you...in your heart, that you'll pity these people, one day you'll even wonder why you let them mess with your mojo.

It's taken me a while to get to that stage....because I care.

It's better to care and have a knock now and then than be a dick!

much love and good karma.

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By *unguya2zMan
over a year ago

coventry..ish

Stay strong the haters are just that haters.x

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

feel for you op my only advice would be try and feel sorry for those who act badly towards you after all how bad must there own miserable lives be to attack another human being for being different .

you often find that those who lash out are often very sad individuals with sad lives themselves and that sadness manifests its self in nastiness towards others especially others that are different and there fore a easy target for there frustration .

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By *atie ShayTV/TS
over a year ago

"I feel your pain...

I noticed a post a few days ago - please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the OP post on the thread too.

In said thread a TS referred to people such as myself as "the skid marks of the community" because they have hairy legs.

My reason for not shaving is because of the nature of my career and the sports I partake in.

I found that post very hurtfull and the old "I must just be a weirdo" thoughts have been returning when I previously felt very accepted.

Everyone has different circumstances, why can't we just live and let live

My thoughts exactly xxxxxx big loves and hugs all round I think xxx"

Thanks and same to you sweetie XxX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they make you feel sad. They're not worth worrying about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are beautiful no matter what they say...words can't bring me down

chin up and ignore the ignorant ones that feel the need to take others down to make themselves feel better...says so much about a person when they get to that level of nasty. Feel sorry for the fuckers

Why don't you post a definition of what you feel is a great and positive way to _iew you personally as a beautiful human being x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will admit I don't fully understand transgender.. but on fab let's face it none of us are what's classed as normal...we all like different things...be it transgender transvestite Bi bi-curious group or what ever..for me (mr or bastard as the Mrs calls me) I have better things to do like live life and enjoy it rather than spend time and energy trying to hurt someone I don't really know..or listening to them...if someone's insulting to me it falls on deaf ears and if they don't like what they see..well i just tell them look in another direction OP if we ever meet in a club or elsewhere you will be treated with respect and acceptance of you as a human being and that's all we ask back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be true to who you are as a person and no matter what other say , as it will be the truth to you and that's all that matter ... At times you may need to be strong but your being true to yourself and good will come from that you see .

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

Ty everyone I'm feeling a lot better now after a chat with an amazing couple and all of you ur all amazing xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ty everyone I'm feeling a lot better now after a chat with an amazing couple and all of you ur all amazing xxxx"

Glad you're feeling better lovely...they clearly intended to hurt & wind people up with their comments, not letting them pull you down is the best way to defeat idiots like that. Sending you a Minxy hug x

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By *enny79 OP TV/TS
over a year ago

chesterfield

"Ty everyone I'm feeling a lot better now after a chat with an amazing couple and all of you ur all amazing xxxx

Awww ty xxxxx love a minxy hug xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ty everyone I'm feeling a lot better now after a chat with an amazing couple and all of you ur all amazing xxxx"

Glad you're feeling better. At the end of the day you are who you are and it's narrow minded people that have no business being so bloody opinionated of others. Hold your head high. Xxx

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

Well you know the outcome of hate, takes a while untill you have enough of it...then its that trip to the slab via suicide, if your not murdered first that is.

Sorry to be blunt but thats part of being ...different...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't let the dickheads get you down, they're only attacking what they don't understand. P.s. Fair play for having the courage to stand up and be counted

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Some people set out to intentionally hurt and upset. Transgender is the new black. In time you'll realise you can't change the _iews of bigots and it's an exercise in futility.

Chin up, hair flick, finger snap...whatever...don't let nonentities get to you!

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By *ISTRESSBISUBCouple
over a year ago

Newark Lincoln

We love them ....all!!!!

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By *ISTRESSBISUBCouple
over a year ago

Newark Lincoln

and and and .....

when they are pretty like _enny79

all our boxes are ticked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't get irate, educate!

Rise to the challenge.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Even if you help to change one person's attitude and understanding of transgender then it is worth it.

I hope you have a good support behind you to help you on your journey. Good luck and be strong. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even if you help to change one person's attitude and understanding of transgender then it is worth it.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Some people are just backward on their thinking.

Plenty of us accept you as you are and try to understand.

The physical abuse is dreadful and I would love that nobody has to endure that, ever. For the rest though, they're just challenged in their thinking. Ignore them. Be you.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Some people set out to intentionally hurt and upset. Transgender is the new black. In time you'll realise you can't change the _iews of bigots and it's an exercise in futility.

Chin up, hair flick, finger snap...whatever...don't let nonentities get to you!"

^ this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Idiots in forums showing off their stupidity shouldn't bother you. Just laugh at their stupidity with the rest of us like I do.

It's the cowards that want to send PMs that get to me.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

Put two fingers up to the idiot,some people are clearly bored and sad I pity their closed mind's. Don't give that type a second of your thoughts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel your pain...

I noticed a post a few days ago - please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the OP post on the thread too.

In said thread a TS referred to people such as myself as "the skid marks of the community" because they have hairy legs.

My reason for not shaving is because of the nature of my career and the sports I partake in.

I found that post very hurtfull and the old "I must just be a weirdo" thoughts have been returning when I previously felt very accepted.

Everyone has different circumstances, why can't we just live and let live

There are tv/ts on here that make similar bitchy comments about hairy people. I think it just shows what utterly horrible human beings they are. They must know how it feels to have such hateful words directed at them yet they do the same.

Women can be hairy too. You're no weirdo. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No-one can make you feel inferior without your consent..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to there own we say, good luck

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"Even if you help to change one person's attitude and understanding of transgender then it is worth it.

I hope you have a good support behind you to help you on your journey. Good luck and be strong. X"

-Matt

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"Ty everyone had a really bad day and that pushed me over the edge people like that are so closed minded to how difficult this is for us love u all xxxx"

Sadly they are allowed to breed, so there is no stopping them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People will only hurt you if you let them .. so say to yourself no I am not letting them do that and take back control, Your you and they don't know you so why care. xxx

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I would rather walk alone and be me

Than walk with others and be them.

Individuality is precious

Good luck to anyone walking through prejudice, there will be happiness on the other side of it.

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By *atie ShayTV/TS
over a year ago

"I feel your pain...

I noticed a post a few days ago - please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the OP post on the thread too.

In said thread a TS referred to people such as myself as "the skid marks of the community" because they have hairy legs.

My reason for not shaving is because of the nature of my career and the sports I partake in.

I found that post very hurtfull and the old "I must just be a weirdo" thoughts have been returning when I previously felt very accepted.

Everyone has different circumstances, why can't we just live and let live

Women can be hairy too. You're no weirdo. xx"

That's a lovely comment, thank you

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sadly they are allowed to breed, so there is no stopping them."

I think that one had been inbreeding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are on this site to be you. There are a lot of small minded people. Sadly I do have my _iews and puzzlements about transgender but that doesn't mean to say I should be cruel or dismissive of you. You are a person and like us all deserve to be loved. Well done for speaking out and only ever be what you want to be. BIG HUGS XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put 1000 brown head matches in a box with 1 red head match and everyone will see the 1 red head. Any thing that stands out fom the crowd our brain is programmed to notice.

What we do after noticing is about civilisation and education. One of the problems transgendered people have is the pantomime dame type comedy which has badly educated people to laugh at and pick on "men in frocks". Though weirdly the principle boy does not get the equal treatment in this country for women in pants?

If you don't want to be noticed go with the herd, but that is not good, be yourself, and expect to get noticed, which means sometimes dealing with idiots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm so frustrated with people's _iews on what transgender is it's so frustrating but the worst thing is we have feelings and constantly getting beaten down from something we can't control really upset now"
OP on line there are Transgender support groups and some for younger people .. Maybe take a look as if you get low and fed-up that maybe worth a look could even help . x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're a fully grown adult and words still hurt, my suggestion would be: strengthen your character so that the words no longer affect you, as opposed to trying to make all the nasty unpleasant things in life go away. I thought that this safe space culture was only for spoilt millennials.

This is life. People will attack you, set-backs will happen, nasty things will be said... It isn't all cuddles and rainbows and people telling you you're awesome and never will be... for anybody.

It honestly astounds me how some people have survived all the years leading up to the current point in their lives, being so weak and naive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be strong, happy and proud of who you are. These small minded individuals are very much in the minority

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

Opinions are like arse holes.

Full of shit.

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"Be strong, happy and proud of who you are. These small minded individuals are very much in the minority "

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

Holy shit, just read the thread.

Thought they were a cool alternative couple but come across as bigots. Said it before but this forum is a spectacular filter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Holy shit, just read the thread.

Thought they were a cool alternative couple but come across as bigots. Said it before but this forum is a spectacular filter."

Probably risking a spell on the naughty step here but:

I wasn't that surprised, they've said some pretty vile stuff before but managed to get away with it. They just ramped up a bit.

I've met plenty of 'alternative' people who were arseholes.

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By *ureTemptationWoman
over a year ago

Off the grid

"If you're a fully grown adult and words still hurt, my suggestion would be: strengthen your character so that the words no longer affect you, as opposed to trying to make all the nasty unpleasant things in life go away. I thought that this safe space culture was only for spoilt millennials.

This is life. People will attack you, set-backs will happen, nasty things will be said... It isn't all cuddles and rainbows and people telling you you're awesome and never will be... for anybody.

It honestly astounds me how some people have survived all the years leading up to the current point in their lives, being so weak and naive. "

I read a lot of your posts and think you just need a big hug. You'd probably thump me for trying, and that just makes me want to hug you more.

Being sensitive is a good thing. Once you put up a wall (because that's what it is) I think you lose a part of yourself and lose a part of empathy.

The most empathic people I know are also get hurt the most easily.

So fuck 'em that think you should change. Choose empathy. Choose life.

I know it can really hurt like fuck OP, but it's the with the problem, not you. Big hugs.

You are fabulous and gorgeous OP. Give yourself a hug and here, have a bar of chocolate.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

It honestly astounds me how some people have survived all the years leading up to the current point in their lives, being so weak and naive. "

OK, I know you are a troll from your other posts so far, but I think this point does actually need responding to:

Many of them don't. That is the point. Something like 40% of trans people attempt suicide at some point.

The fact that this weekend is Trans Day of Remembrance to remember those trans people that have been KILLED due to anti-transgender violence.

Does't that not say something to you?

I'm not even going to respond to the 'weak and naive' comment.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It honestly astounds me how some people have survived all the years leading up to the current point in their lives, being so weak and naive.

OK, I know you are a troll from your other posts so far, but I think this point does actually need responding to:

Many of them don't. That is the point. Something like 40% of trans people attempt suicide at some point.

The fact that this weekend is Trans Day of Remembrance to remember those trans people that have been KILLED due to anti-transgender violence.

Does't that not say something to you?

I'm not even going to respond to the 'weak and naive' comment.

-Matt "

People of every sexual orientation, race, age and gender attempt (and commit) suicide, down to a number of reasons - painful break ups, money worries, custody battles, work related stress, etc.

Right now in Syria, people are being killed for being Christian. People in 90's Bosnia were killed for being Muslim. People in WW2 were killed for being Jews/Gypseys/Slavs. Hundreds of thousands of white, heterosexual men have been killed on the battlefield.

Do you not see how your "offended" response reiterates my initial point? People die, people get depressed, people will hurt you, THAT'S LIFE. Those who accept that fact and find the strength to endure it will fare better than those who start bitching and whining every time they're called a name.

You can respond with "OMG, that's offensive, you troll!" retorts all you like, it just shows that you are completely out of touch with the world around you.

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By *lowercandyWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire

Hugs xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try not to be upset about others _iews, chances are that these people will never be close to your heart so what they think is irrelevant to your life

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

It honestly astounds me how some people have survived all the years leading up to the current point in their lives, being so weak and naive.

OK, I know you are a troll from your other posts so far, but I think this point does actually need responding to:

Many of them don't. That is the point. Something like 40% of trans people attempt suicide at some point.

The fact that this weekend is Trans Day of Remembrance to remember those trans people that have been KILLED due to anti-transgender violence.

Does't that not say something to you?

I'm not even going to respond to the 'weak and naive' comment.

-Matt

People of every sexual orientation, race, age and gender attempt (and commit) suicide, down to a number of reasons - painful break ups, money worries, custody battles, work related stress, etc.

You can respond with "OMG, that's offensive, you troll!" retorts all you like, it just shows that you are completely out of touch with the world around you. "

Let's break this down.

1) I am not offended. I am merely pointing out that your have demonstrated that you post to elicit a response from people, not to contribute to a conversation. That is the definition of a troll.

2) By your reasoning above, the people of Syria, Bosnia, WW2, etc are 'weak and naive'? And maybe if they had a bit of a thicker skin that they wouldn't get killed? I respectfully disagree.

3) The rate of suicide within transgender people is an order of magnitude higher than the average population. Yes, many other minority groups have increased levels of suicide rates. That does not make them weak or naive either.

4) Yes, there is some pretty shitty stuff out there in the world. In your words 'That's life'. In my mind that doesn't give someone legitimate reason to further be a dick to fellow human beings.

5) "Those who accept that fact and find the strength to endure it will fare better than those who start bitching and whining every time they're called a name." -- and what about those who can't endure it? What about those for whom deal with being insulted and shamed day in and day out for being themselves? What about for those whom that last insult is the final straw that breaks the camels back? Be that trans, fat, gay, disabled, whatever?

-Matt

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