FabSwingers.com forum: Do you think bin laden shud of been dumped at sea

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

it annoys me that the yanks think its ok to kill him and to just get rid of the body ... i mean honestly are we just ment to take the goverments word with no proof

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

yes and yes

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

They certainly should have consulted you first.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

But what would of happened if he had been buried on land. Either someone would off blown it up, activists would have treated it like a shrine and goodness knows what else. Best where he is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He should've been dumped by Mrs Beenlaidon. Long ago.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"it annoys me that the yanks think its ok to kill him and to just get rid of the body ... i mean honestly are we just ment to take the goverments word with no proof

There are quite a few people including Americans I have spoken to who are not convinced that the story is true at several levels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what about at sea level?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Crystal if they showed you a picture of him having been shot twice in the head would you believe it was Bin Laden?

Even Al Qaeda acknowledge his death.

What is it that you want to see?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"what about at sea level? "

Some ( and I am not sure what to believe tbh) say that he is not even dead.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

no i wudnt they have faked a pic of it b4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well of course they acknowledge it otherwise he won't be able to enjoy his old age retirement and manage his empire from afar. tch really, isn't it obvious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We heard it here first.

Bin Laden lives.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

He is busy shagging lord Lucan and shergar is having a wank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Crystal if they showed you a picture of him having been shot twice in the head would you believe it was Bin Laden?

Even Al Qaeda acknowledge his death.

What is it that you want to see?"

a re-run of the Sodem Hossein cacaphony no doubt.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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The one thing which is for sure is... they found him and got him. The head shots sound plausible and their reasons for not showing the photos.

Even the yanks would not be so stupid as to claim to have killed someone when all it would take is a web cam appearance somewhere on the internet to completely discredit the story and distroy the USA in terms of credability.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The one thing which is for sure is... they found him and got him. The head shots sound plausible and their reasons for not showing the photos.

ah but not if it were a cunning plan devised between the parties.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"The one thing which is for sure is... they found him and got him. The head shots sound plausible and their reasons for not showing the photos.

ah but not if it were a cunning plan devised between the parties.

And the benefit in that for Binnie?

Would you trust him to stay gone?

A sudden appearance discrediting the infidels would do wonders for his recruitment efforts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Copied from elsewhere on line.

"I was thinking about HMS Ark Royal earlier on. Not the most recent, Invincible-class carrier with the ramps for the now defunct Harriers, but the previous one, built by Cammel-Laird during the war and later adapted with an angled flight-deck, much in the style of contemporary American carriers.

Like the American carriers, the Ark Royal was equipped with steam-powered catapults to launch the heavy Vixen, Phantom and Buccaneers that formed the ship's complement of fighter and strike aircraft.

The Ark Royal was decommissioned in 1978 and I believe that the tired old piano from the ward room was removed to the flight-deck whereupon it was draped with a Union flag and given the last rites before being committed to Davey Jones's Locker over the bows, propelled by one of the catapults.

As we all know, a certain gentleman was committed to the depths this week, having been afforded the protocol appropriate to his beliefs, or so we are led to believe. There is some hesitation on the part of those responsible, whether to release identifying photographs of the deceased, but there is also a curious silence regarding the gentleman's ultimate departure.

The USS Carl Vinson, where the ceremony is reputed to have taken place, is also blessed with an angled-deck and catapults. Surely not. They wouldn't would they?"

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

no shrine,no monument,no place of pilgrimage.

it was by far the best way.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Crystal, i am assuming your post is very much tongue in cheek?

For his crimes he got what he deserved, no drawn out trial lasting for months then a comfy cell waiting possibly ten years before being humanely put to sleep.

He at least had a chance to fight back, more than he allowed his victims.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"it annoys me that the yanks think its ok to kill him and to just get rid of the body ... i mean honestly are we just ment to take the goverments word with no proof

oooh... should i take yank personally... oooh... hmmmmm

a couple of things here....

why on earth would a country lay claim to the body??? would saudi/yemen/afghanistan or pakistan want the body....

hell no.....

like those countries would want to a shrine to someone a lot of extremists would could a martyr?

if not... you going to make them take the body?

so you want to see pictures of a man with his eye blown out.. and his brains showing.... okay..hmmm.... do you want to see pictures of the poor lady who was decapitated in spain on friday as well.... or do you just believe what people say????

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I'm not sure that I'd bury him at sea. I'd just have kicked him overboard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the guy down my local chip shop is Elvis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not sure that I'd bury him at sea. I'd just have kicked him overboard"

Even in the heat of conflict or the adrenalin rush of the aftermath it's important to treat enemy causalties with the respect you'd hope to be treated if the circumstances were reversed - even if you have no expectation that it'd happen.

To do otherwise reduces yourself to a level no better than theirs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"it annoys me that the yanks think its ok to kill him and to just get rid of the body ... i mean honestly are we just ment to take the goverments word with no proof

oooh... should i take yank personally... oooh... hmmmmm

a couple of things here....

why on earth would a country lay claim to the body??? would saudi/yemen/afghanistan or pakistan want the body....

hell no.....

like those countries would want to a shrine to someone a lot of extremists would could a martyr?

if not... you going to make them take the body?

yes i want to see proof i want to see the video of it from the camra that was on top of the navy seals head

i dont know who was decapitated in spain missed that 1

and is yank not a nice term ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For his crimes he got what he deserved, no drawn out trial lasting for months then a comfy cell waiting possibly ten years before being humanely put to sleep.

Last point first, no execution can really be described as "humanely put to sleep"...

And basically what you are saying is he doesnt deserve a fair trial, we can assume his guilt and America are ok to act as judge, jusry and executioner. Dangerours precedent there...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His country of birth were offered his body and rejected the offer. Where else should he have been repatriated to?

Certainly nowhere where his tomb could become a shrine. He was given a funeral consistent with his so called 'beliefs' and now he feeds the fishes. Good riddance.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

crystal, why are you annoyed he was topped?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

dont be daft i am annoyed there is NO proof

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe when the repercussions take place we won't care about proof ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"..............

and is yank not a nice term ? "

It can be a bit disparaging. It was used in the UK about the US servicemen who came across here 'to win the war'. "Overpaid, oversexed and over here" as my Dad used to remind me.

It goes back much further in the US.

And, of course, it rhymes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont be daft i am annoyed there is NO proof "

There's no proof Hitler is dead. Does that keep you awake nights?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

lets just remember who we are talking about here, this is not some poor bloke fitted up by a corrupt or incompetent police force.

he's in the same camp as adolf, pol pot and stalin.

there was no way he would ever stand trial, he knew too much which would embarrass the usa / pakistan and others.

its a different ball game when these 'believers' are cutting peoples heads off on camera and are prepared to detonate themselves in order to destroy any type of society other than their twisted interpretation of a religion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont be daft i am annoyed there is NO proof "

You need to look at the wider picture. If the Americans provide photographic evidence it would inflame Bin Laden's supporters even more than they are already. Are you prepared for collateral damage greater than that of 9/11?

The Taliban have acknowledged Bin Laden's death, why can't you accept it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe when the repercussions take place we won't care about proof ?"

I was thinking the same. A body or a grave would only fuel the fire and give a place for psychos to visit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

lol when i googled it , it said a term used by the british to describe all Americans.

to be honest i ment nothin nastie by it and thats all that shud matter to me

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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"dont be daft i am annoyed there is NO proof "

The proof is.... he's not on youtube calling the USA lying bastards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Copied from elsewhere on line.

"The USS Carl Vinson, where the ceremony is reputed to have taken place, is also blessed with an angled-deck and catapults. Surely not. They wouldn't would they?""

pmsl Now theres a thought, head first of course. !! wonder how far they could have fired him ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets just remember who we are talking about here, this is not some poor bloke fitted up by a corrupt or incompetent police force.

he's in the same camp as adolf, pol pot and stalin.

there was no way he would ever stand trial, he knew too much which would embarrass the usa / pakistan and others.

Well arguaby he's not really comparable to Adolf, Pol Pot and Stalin. What with them ruling countries and him being a terrorist. But regardless, taking Hitler as an example many, many Nazis were, and occassionally are still tried for their crimes. So your argument is somewhat flawed.

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

IMHO the answer to the OP's questions are also Yes and Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets just remember who we are talking about here, this is not some poor bloke fitted up by a corrupt or incompetent police force.

he's in the same camp as adolf, pol pot and stalin.

there was no way he would ever stand trial, he knew too much which would embarrass the usa / pakistan and others.

Well arguaby he's not really comparable to Adolf, Pol Pot and Stalin. What with them ruling countries and him being a terrorist. ............"

I take you point but you could equally argue that the real difference is that the others succeeded in getting where bin Laden had only, so far, tried to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He is busy shagging lord Lucan and shergar is having a wank."

lmfao!!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

If the Americans had arrested him and made him stand trial, then how many innocents would be kidnapped and had their heads cut off to secure his release?

Killing him avoided mass bloodshed. I back the USA!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

i actually care not a jot whether you think its a flawed argument.

'And arguably' as far as comparability is concerned to the minutest historical nth degree, they will be remembered as wrong uns.

i dont suppose it really matters if the person gives the nod is a nutter, terrorist or despot and you are murdered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

9/11 will be claiming many more victims for a long time to come yet. The most recent being the 80 souls lost in Pakistan this week. It started with 9/11 but Bin Laden's death won't end it. You can kill a man, but you can't kill an ideaology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the Americans had arrested him and made him stand trial, then how many innocents would be kidnapped and had their heads cut off to secure his release?

Killing him avoided mass bloodshed. I back the USA!"

I'm not sure it'll make much difference to the eventual death toll.

Those who'd happily have bombed, maimed and killed in pursuit of his release from Guantanamo (or wherever) will just as surely wreak their misguided revenge on those they hold responsible for his death.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Accommodater - I wouldn't like to be held in a cellar under threat of having my head cut off until Bin Laden was released.

Neither would you.

That is what would happen hundreds of times if the Americans had not killed him.

You know that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i actually care not a jot whether you think its a flawed argument.

'And arguably' as far as comparability is concerned to the minutest historical nth degree, they will be remembered as wrong uns.

i dont suppose it really matters if the person gives the nod is a nutter, terrorist or despot and you are murdered."

That, if I may say so, demonstrates the core of problem.

Arguing about who will historically "be remembered as wrong uns" is a pathway to hell.

Who, just an example, were the 'wrong uns' during the Crusades? 1,000 years ago and still neither side can actually agree who was to blame for the whole insane business ???????????

1,000 years from we'll still be arguing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"it annoys me that the yanks think its ok to kill him and to just get rid of the body ... i mean honestly are we just ment to take the goverments word with no proof

Why pollute the sea....

There is enough crap floating about as it is.

Poor fishes

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Sadly, Voyeur i make you right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Accommodater - I wouldn't like to be held in a cellar under threat of having my head cut off until Bin Laden was released.

Neither would you.

That is what would happen hundreds of times if the Americans had not killed him.

You know that."

Decapitation is an interesting analogy because a lot of folks see ObL's loose organisation as a Hydra and cutting off one head (Osama's) will do nothing to quell the blood lust of the rest of beast.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Accommodater - yes, but why shouldn't we fight back?

Should we just suffer their attacks and do nothing about them?

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Is it just me but im sure I saw a photo of him dead the very next day,and then it was gone

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Honeypot, I saw one the next day but I coudnt find out who had released it. It was in the Daily Telegrapg. One of the Telegraph's journalists reckoned it was a photoshop job. Very interesting tho

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Thanks thought I was going bonkers for a minute there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Accommodater - yes, but why shouldn't we fight back?

Should we just suffer their attacks and do nothing about them?"

We should strike back but who and where do we target?

The very nature of terrorism is about ducking and diving. AQ has nothing like Aldershot or Faslane or Lossiemouth.

Terrorists live in the local equivalent of council houses in many suburban towns across the world and a lot of them have little in common, save a shared hatred of "the west" and wouldn't recognise each other is their lives depended on it.

Who'd have thought a few NHS doctors would rent a house in Renfrewshire and ram a car into Glasgow Airport a day after one of them left a car bomb in central London?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all"

That's not new. The UK knew the connection between Adams, McGuiness and the IRA; knew where both lived; knew the movements (pretty much) of both, yet chose to do nothing.

I wouldn't lose sleep about "not a legally constituted government" - where there's a will ..............

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all"

you find them in pakistan.

the country will always say it does not support terrorists but where was he found.

where was the sri lanka cricket team when it came under machine gun fire.

its always a connection with pakistan.

and we should not give them any more money in aid and nor should the US.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all

you find them in pakistan.

the country will always say it does not support terrorists but where was he found.

where was the sri lanka cricket team when it came under machine gun fire.

its always a connection with pakistan.

and we should not give them any more money in aid and nor should the US."

The Tory led coalition stance on aid to Pakistan says

"If progress is made on reforms, as with other partners, the UK’s aid to Pakistan will average £350 million per year over four years. Increased aid to Pakistan will be linked to progress on reform as the Government of Pakistan takes steps to build a more dynamic economy, tackle corruption and bring stability."

That, for those who don't like long sentences, is £350 million per year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west."

"you reap,what you sow" is what allows judges to sentence people to have acid dripped into their eyes as judicial punishment.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west.

"you reap,what you sow" is what allows judges to sentence people to have acid dripped into their eyes as judicial punishment."

did you see that poor girl.you disappoint me if you think,he does not deserve to be severely punished.

there's a book,wherein it says.an eye for an eye.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west.

"you reap,what you sow" is what allows judges to sentence people to have acid dripped into their eyes as judicial punishment.

did you see that poor girl.you disappoint me if you think,he does not deserve to be severely punished.

there's a book,wherein it says.an eye for an eye."

Well, if that's the Dog you believe in - so be it.

It's worth remembering that the 'poor girl' has only agreed that the acid in the eye punishment should go ahead because her assailant's family can't raise sufficient blood money to satisfy the victim's demands.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all

you find them in pakistan.

the country will always say it does not support terrorists but where was he found.

where was the sri lanka cricket team when it came under machine gun fire.

its always a connection with pakistan.

and we should not give them any more money in aid and nor should the US.

The Tory led coalition stance on aid to Pakistan says

That, for those who don't like long sentences, is £350 million per year.

I don't like long sentences but Bin Laden should get one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all

you find them in pakistan.

the country will always say it does not support terrorists but where was he found.

where was the sri lanka cricket team when it came under machine gun fire.

its always a connection with pakistan.

and we should not give them any more money in aid and nor should the US.

The Tory led coalition stance on aid to Pakistan says

That, for those who don't like long sentences, is £350 million per year.

I don't like long sentences but Bin Laden should get one."

Bit late for sentences.

Someone decided to cut out the middlemen when they "brought him to justice".

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

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"in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west.

"you reap,what you sow" is what allows judges to sentence people to have acid dripped into their eyes as judicial punishment.

did you see that poor girl.you disappoint me if you think,he does not deserve to be severely punished.

there's a book,wherein it says.an eye for an eye.

Well, if that's the Dog you believe in - so be it.

he felt it was ok,to do that to some poor girl,and you think he only deserves a community service sentence.hmmmmm.

it's ok to defend the defensible,but it's not right to defend the undefendable.

ps i dont have a dog,but i also dont have a daughter,who was made blind,and horribly disfigured,by the guy you are whinging abouts human rights.

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

"And the guy down my local chip shop is Elvis "

No! he only thinks he is, We all know that Elvis is alive and well and living on the moon!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I find strange in all this is the Americans have the audacity to fly uninvited into another country, assassinate someone, fly out and no one objected.

I take it then everyone would turn a blind eye if say Nigerians flew in and shot Nick Griffiths.

Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for Bin Laden. It just makes me nervous when precedents like this are set: who's next?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west.

"you reap,what you sow" is what allows judges to sentence people to have acid dripped into their eyes as judicial punishment.

did you see that poor girl.you disappoint me if you think,he does not deserve to be severely punished.

there's a book,wherein it says.an eye for an eye."

A pretty girl who's face now looks like it's melted, who is blind and has had her life wrecked for what?... some asshole of a twat who couldn't take no for an answer (He'd proposed marriage to her several times but she'd refused him).

Too damn right he should have got the same treatment he dealt her, but Iranian courts were probably scared of the backlash from human rights wankers who would have kicked up a stink.

Still, let the dust settle and in a couple of months who knows what might happen, quietly like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What I find strange in all this is the Americans have the audacity to fly uninvited into another country, assassinate someone, fly out and no one objected.

I take it then everyone would turn a blind eye if say Nigerians flew in and shot Nick Griffiths.

Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for Bin Laden. It just makes me nervous when precedents like this are set: who's next?!!"

Your so right.

No one is denying or 'window dressing' these facts. Here we are discussing 'proof' and 'funeral arrangements' when the story for me and surely the way it will be debated in history is the point Sassy makes.

To the Op, I don't believe the Americans are misleading us about getting Bin Laden. I think he is dead. I do though believe they have mislead us on some aspects of what they have done because it goes against much of what they and we stand for, in my opinion.

I'm happy they got him, I'm disappointed with the precedent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in the middle east,it's simply the case,you reap,what you sow.

we are no innocents in the middle east.

they have every reason,to resent the west.

"you reap,what you sow" is what allows judges to sentence people to have acid dripped into their eyes as judicial punishment."

We may not like their laws, but at least they appear to stand by them, an offender was put before a Judge.....instead of someone disregarding their laws and exacting revenge. Horrible crime from a horrible man, but even he got a trial.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"no i wudnt they have faked a pic of it b4 "

They've faked pics of Bin Laden's death before? When was that?

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"He is busy shagging lord Lucan and shergar is having a wank."

Not that I'm an anatomical pedant, but it's more likely he's being shagged by Shergar and lord Lucan is having a wank...

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"And the guy down my local chip shop is Elvis "

And mine! Elvis Singh...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What I find strange in all this is the Americans have the audacity to fly uninvited into another country, assassinate someone, fly out and no one objected.

I take it then everyone would turn a blind eye if say Nigerians flew in and shot Nick Griffiths.

Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for Bin Laden. It just makes me nervous when precedents like this are set: who's next?!!"

MI6 and more secretive branches of the British Govt have been doing this exact same thing for decades. The Cold War was rife with illegal incursions into the former Eastern Bloc and many 'hits' were carried out in the name of protecting our way of life. The Americans stated back in 2001 that nowhere is safe for the murderers of nearly 3,000 people, and you can bet your bottom dollar that if they'd prewarned the Pakistani govt they would have entered an empty compound as Bin Laden would have been long gone.

I applaud the Americans professionalism and their painstaking security services who had tracked this location for more than a year.

Should he have been arrested?

Look at the faces of jubilant Americans shortly after he was confirmed dead for your answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But what would of happened if he had been buried on land. Either someone would off blown it up, activists would have treated it like a shrine and goodness knows what else. Best where he is"
your right xx thay would have made it a shrine the nutters x

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"Yes - but where you do find them, you hit them hard.

They are not a legally constituted government so we can't formally declare war.

But if you follow that logic, we would never hit back at all

That's not new. The UK knew the connection between Adams, McGuiness and the IRA; knew where both lived; knew the movements (pretty much) of both, yet chose to do nothing.

I wouldn't lose sleep about "not a legally constituted government" - where there's a will ..............

There are plenty of rumours about a shoot to kill policy against the ASU members below Adams and McGuinness though.

It wasn't politically expedient to kill them; it was politically expedient to take out Bin Laden. That's the only argument against what was done, that expediency appears to have trumped justice. from what I've read even ObL's own people had coem to the conclusion he was a bit of a fruitcake, with them refusing to carry through his ideas for massive attacks in favour of doing what might win them power in East Africa, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".. from what I've read even ObL's own people had coem to the conclusion he was a bit of a fruitcake, with them refusing to carry through his ideas for massive attacks in favour of doing what might win them power in East Africa, Afghanistan and Pakistan."

I think you are not far from the truth there. This is a man who has evaded capture for ten years and it seemed a relatively easy operation for the U.S. to take him out.

It wouldn't be the first time that an organisation has decided it's leader is surplus to requirements and took a step back to allow their enemies to remove him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"no i wudnt they have faked a pic of it b4

They've faked pics of Bin Laden's death before? When was that?"

Google it its easy to find the photo shopped pic

Yes it's good he's dead But personally I'd like the us to show our goverment the video footage n the photos to prove it .. I don't dislike the American people but I do dislike the choices there leader has taken not to consult the UN b4 dumping his body

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

"it annoys me that the yanks think its ok to kill him and to just get rid of the body ... i mean honestly are we just ment to take the goverments word with no proof

There are quite a few people including Americans I have spoken to who are not convinced that the story is true at several levels. "

Who have u been speaking to "Hook" for god sake. even AL QUAIDA have come out and said YES HES FUCKING DEAD , what more would you want , his body on a tour of museums through the west.

He is sleeping with the fishes, deceased, dead, post life , not breathing, pushing up daises , DEAD !!! LOL

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying I think they Shud b more honest on how he died show our goverment and the UN the video n photos

If they have nothing to hide why not

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

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"I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying I think they Shud b more honest on how he died show our goverment and the UN the video n photos

If they have nothing to hide why not "

he was shot . once in the nut , once in the chest In the states the call that "the double tap" our military have used that method for years and years . Why dont you beleive that. even more why do you want to see pics of a man with half his head missing. Do you beleive hitler is dead or do you need a photo !!

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

Breaking news: Bin laden has been spotted on a lilo drifting up the thames

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London

I think it was a wise and clever decision to avoid a place of pilgrimage.

I too wondered why we didn't see pictures, but actually, as Al Queda themselves have confirmed that he is dead, now its not really needed.

Obama is a very clever president.

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

"I think it was a wise and clever decision to avoid a place of pilgrimage.

I too wondered why we didn't see pictures, but actually, as Al Queda themselves have confirmed that he is dead, now its not really needed.

Obama is a very clever president. "

God,, common sense at last lol

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By *INKKKYMan
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL/ WIRRAL

i believe he died several months ago, it suits the americans so say he died in a precise operation rather than they got lucky bombing caves and mountains...funny how they happen to 'get him' just as they kill gaddafiis' CHILD relatives???

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

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I suspect they knew earlier but wanted the Pakistan Goverment to do the job for them (less mess on their own doorstep) when it became clear they werent gonna do that they decided to take their chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who felt outrage at 9/11 should shed no tears at how it's orchestrator met his grisly end. Cast your minds back to that day and picture those planes flying into the twin towers. Now imagine those on board who could see from their porthole window where they were headed and the fate that awaited them. Whilst you're at it picture those in the buildings on the floors where the planes hit who looked out and saw a jetliner heading straight for them and knew they had nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Can your hear the dull thud of human bodies hitting the pavement outside where they'd thrown themselves off the umpteenth floor - preferring to go that way instead of burning to death. Now picture in your mind all those policemen and firefighters both on the ground and in the buildings when they heard the crack-crack-crack as each floor collapsed above them knowing that they had zero time to get out and save themselves.

Finally, imagine yourself on the end of a phone as your husband/wife/sister/brother/child/mother/father/friend tearfully said 'goodbye' in the few moments they had left.

Now tell me Bin Laden didn't deserve all that he got however he got it!

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Why pollute the sea hope the crabs enjoy their meal

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I just ask myself where the tipping point is, and who deserves to be done away with (if that is what happened) and who deserves a trial. I am not defending Bin Laden or those of any terrorist and this question is not meant to add fuel to flames. It is a genuine question : Which terrorist deserves a trial...and which do not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just ask myself where the tipping point is, and who deserves to be done away with (if that is what happened) and who deserves a trial. I am not defending Bin Laden or those of any terrorist and this question is not meant to add fuel to flames. It is a genuine question : Which terrorist deserves a trial...and which do not?"

Our security services know full well who the terrorists are. In some cases I suspect they don't know enough of the hierarchy below the leading echelon so a policy of better the devil you know is applied. At the height of the Troubles in N.I. the British Army knew exactly who they needed to go after but often a more softly softly approach was needed due to myraid of factions in operation over there - the enemy of my enemy is my friend scenario - but also the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy but is useful as a friend too - sometimes.

So which terrorist deserves a trial?

The one where a trial by court and a long long spell in prison serves the public outrage, destroys a legend whilst advancing a politican's career. All the others can look forward to a bullet in the head from a man wearing night vision goggles.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying I think they Shud b more honest on how he died show our goverment and the UN the video n photos

If they have nothing to hide why not

Well i never believe everything the cia and nsa feed me.If you think logically the yanks finally track down public enemy number 1,a guy with the whole plan of who or where the rest of the bad guys are ,so what do you do ,slot him and chuck him in the sea ,or tell the organisation and world he is dead so they wont go crazy like a nest of ants and change plans,in the meantime tuck him up ,fill him with the latest talk drugs and pop him off later,after all he is a dead man so no one will miss him. I think the later is the better and more productive option to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And who gets to decide? We may well think Obama's quite a sensible lad but supposing his successor is the bat-shit crazy Sarah Palin - her definition of a terrorist might be quite different to the UK government's definition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The person at the top decides, and if he or she gets it wrong they have the opportunity to say so in their memoirs decades later. Nobody will ever face prosecution for executing Bin Laden and the photos may be released 50 years from now, if they haven't mysteriously disappeared by then.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"Well i never believe everything the cia and nsa feed me.If you think logically the yanks finally track down public enemy number 1,a guy with the whole plan of who or where the rest of the bad guys are ,so what do you do ,slot him and chuck him in the sea ,or tell the organisation and world he is dead so they wont go crazy like a nest of ants and change plans,in the meantime tuck him up ,fill him with the latest talk drugs and pop him off later,after all he is a dead man so no one will miss him. I think the later is the better and more productive option to be honest. "

well i totally agree here, so im not the only one thinking along this line. I dont think they killed him,i think they have him stashed somewhere while they get info from him, this would be the easiest way to keep him by saying dumped at sea or they would have shown us the body and not dumped him at sea..... what proof is there that he is dead. none as he was dumped mmmmmmmmmmm

this is just my personal _iew

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