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"Four-time Olympic medallist Louis Smith has been given a two-month ban by British Gymnastics for appearing to mock Islam in a video. The video, filmed by the 27-year-old Smith but leaked to the media in September, showed him laughing while retired gymnast Luke Carson mimicked Islamic prayer practices turns out you are not allowed to laugh in private at a friend having a lark about . Yes this was the UK " And perhaps a little respect? | |||
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"Four-time Olympic medallist Louis Smith has been given a two-month ban by British Gymnastics for appearing to mock Islam in a video. The video, filmed by the 27-year-old Smith but leaked to the media in September, showed him laughing while retired gymnast Luke Carson mimicked Islamic prayer practices turns out you are not allowed to laugh in private at a friend having a lark about . Yes this was the UK And perhaps a little respect?" Yes a little respect for someones privacy | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it??" That would work. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it??" ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting" A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. " Couple of racists?? Please, elucidate | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. " I take it you never piss around and have a laugh, get a bloody grip . imagine if "the life of Brian" was written to take the piss out of the Muslim religion, not only would there be beheadings & execution's but also possibility of war | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting" I seem to remember Jesus Christ was in one scene. Brian was imploring them to follow Jesus and not him. In no way was Jesus's or Christianity was being mocked. If that was the case,I'd be offended. I think you should watch the film again. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting I seem to remember Jesus Christ was in one scene. Brian was imploring them to follow Jesus and not him. In no way was Jesus's or Christianity was being mocked. If that was the case,I'd be offended. I think you should watch the film again." *Jesus This autocorrect thingy is rubbish... | |||
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"If HE filmed it- Who leaked it?" maybe he's one of them self hating racists | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. I take it you never piss around and have a laugh, get a bloody grip . imagine if "the life of Brian" was written to take the piss out of the Muslim religion, not only would there be beheadings & execution's but also possibility of war" But would all the women turn up in false beards for the stoning? | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. I take it you never piss around and have a laugh, get a bloody grip . imagine if "the life of Brian" was written to take the piss out of the Muslim religion, not only would there be beheadings & execution's but also possibility of war" I love having a laugh, sorry I don't find thinly veiled attacks on other religions amusing. Were there threats of war and beheadings when this athlete's video came to light? No, he got a 2 month ban. How about when Four Lions was released? Strangely, people kept their heads and no new wars started. Funny that... | |||
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"Of course, people have the right to freedom of speech, but with that comes the responsibility to deal with any repercussions which comes from those actions. And also if you're a public figure, make sure that there isn't evidence of you doing something idiotic. " idiotic!! you mean like laughing at a friend come on now | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. I take it you never piss around and have a laugh, get a bloody grip . imagine if "the life of Brian" was written to take the piss out of the Muslim religion, not only would there be beheadings & execution's but also possibility of war" I take it that you do not respect other people's faiths. Fine. But open mocking is rather disrespectful. Couch it in terms of "humour" if you wish. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting A critically acclaimed comedy satire with a story and script. Sounds highly comparable to a couple of racists with a camera filming themselves laughing at the prayer positions of a different religion. I take it you never piss around and have a laugh, get a bloody grip . imagine if "the life of Brian" was written to take the piss out of the Muslim religion, not only would there be beheadings & execution's but also possibility of war I love having a laugh, sorry I don't find thinly veiled attacks on other religions amusing. Were there threats of war and beheadings when this athlete's video came to light? No, he got a 2 month ban. How about when Four Lions was released? Strangely, people kept their heads and no new wars started. Funny that..." actually there were many death threats aimed at him this was reported on Jeremy Vine today, go back and listen to it a 2 month ban fair enough but then all the death threats are aimed at him | |||
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"If he's a cunt for laughing at a stupid practise of faith over unsubstantiated wild claims then your a cunt for laughing at Donny's hair for his.... This is just another tactic of right wing fascist(both trump and Islam) who don't like criticism.... Shut them up" I didn't detect any irony in that. | |||
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"If he's a cunt for laughing at a stupid practise of faith over unsubstantiated wild claims then your a cunt for laughing at Donny's hair for his.... This is just another tactic of right wing fascist(both trump and Islam) who don't like criticism.... Shut them up I didn't detect any irony in that." . I'm so offended I might have to go home and have a cup of tea!. Lewis smith should be fully reinstated and given an apology, no ifs no buts | |||
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"Bigus Dickus don't snigger now" According to the title of your post. We can't laugh. Therefore, please explain in this instance why we should snigger? We await your response in the matter. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting" It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail " . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it | |||
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"Either shut the fuck up mocking Donny and nige or learn to live with the fact when you make grand unsubstantiated claims you'll get mocked. Oh but I like mocking don's hair because it's funny and I'm left wing... Tough shit that's not how it works" Are you trying to out angry the people your angry with for being angry? | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it" It upsets me that you think I'm upset. There's a Jerry Springer musical? then there is no hope for Western civilisation | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it" Sigh. I saw that musical too. And as a Christian I was not offended. Neither was my mother, who is pretty sensitive on this subject. There was no mocking on people praying in that musical. I'm getting sick and tired of the 'whataboutery' in this thread. It is not right to mock how people pray to whatever God they choose. People should have the right to feed their spirituality/religious need/soul in whatever way they choose as long as they harm no one. Were they harming you OP? No. THEN LET THEM BE. | |||
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"Well.....I never thought I'd see it. When they invented the Internet i bet they never imagined a load of swingers would end up arguing about wether we can laugh at biggus dickus. What a time to be alive Please continue..... " That one really made me laugh. So I suppose I'm now disqualified from the thread. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it Sigh. I saw that musical too. And as a Christian I was not offended. Neither was my mother, who is pretty sensitive on this subject. There was no mocking on people praying in that musical. I'm getting sick and tired of the 'whataboutery' in this thread. It is not right to mock how people pray to whatever God they choose. People should have the right to feed their spirituality/religious need/soul in whatever way they choose as long as they harm no one. Were they harming you OP? No. THEN LET THEM BE. " are we not allowed to comment on what's on the BBC news today?? are we banned from talking about UK news? | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it It upsets me that you think I'm upset. There's a Jerry Springer musical? then there is no hope for Western civilisation " Yep! Loved it! It was funny | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it Sigh. I saw that musical too. And as a Christian I was not offended. Neither was my mother, who is pretty sensitive on this subject. There was no mocking on people praying in that musical. I'm getting sick and tired of the 'whataboutery' in this thread. It is not right to mock how people pray to whatever God they choose. People should have the right to feed their spirituality/religious need/soul in whatever way they choose as long as they harm no one. Were they harming you OP? No. THEN LET THEM BE. are we not allowed to comment on what's on the BBC news today?? are we banned from talking about UK news? " I didn't say that,and you know it. I said everyone has a right to pray with dignity. No one has a right to mock someone's desire to be a better human being. | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting It's all a bit silly I agree but the Life of Brian argument doesn't work that well. There was widespread condemnation here and in the States, the usual press suspects were righteously outraged, it was banned in many areas by councils and in others it had its rating changed from AA to X. People tried to blockade cinemas that screened it. Good film though I do prefer Holy Grail . How about the jerry springer musical then?.... Did the pope issue a fatwa and did jerry have to go under armed guard for decades while baying crowds held placards calling for his beheading?.... No. And I stand by the fact that the musical producers had every right to mock Jesus and his claims and anybody that wishes to follow them... If it upsets you, it's your right not to watch it Sigh. I saw that musical too. And as a Christian I was not offended. Neither was my mother, who is pretty sensitive on this subject. There was no mocking on people praying in that musical. I'm getting sick and tired of the 'whataboutery' in this thread. It is not right to mock how people pray to whatever God they choose. People should have the right to feed their spirituality/religious need/soul in whatever way they choose as long as they harm no one. Were they harming you OP? No. THEN LET THEM BE. are we not allowed to comment on what's on the BBC news today?? are we banned from talking about UK news? " Of course you are allowed to comment. But do not expect people to support your position. While I do not follow a faith, I fully respect other people's right to do so and prefer not to mock them. | |||
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"Of course, people have the right to freedom of speech, but with that comes the responsibility to deal with any repercussions which comes from those actions. And also if you're a public figure, make sure that there isn't evidence of you doing something idiotic. idiotic!! you mean like laughing at a friend come on now" agree... so what about the guy who does the puppet that is obviously taking the mick.. ( his name escapes me but my lad does a amazing impression) i laugh at that.... and so does many others... guess if they had picked a different religion it would have been ok Personally I find most religious practices make me smile and giggle in many ways.. Cali | |||
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"I wonder how Dave Allen would have got on in this brave new world." As well as Frankie Boyle, hopefully... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OcQHeypIMg | |||
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"I'm not going to suggest that Louis is a racist or even a bad guy. I would say though that he is naive or a numpty for want of a better word. I often say outrageous or offensive things to my very close friends or to my wife in private. I certainly wouldn't film myself either saying those things or being present in a camera smiling when they are said. Public figures are always under scrutiny and Louis is an Olympian who would have received media training and mentoring so should know better. " guess it is okay for him to receive a mountain of death threats | |||
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"I'm not going to suggest that Louis is a racist or even a bad guy. I would say though that he is naive or a numpty for want of a better word. I often say outrageous or offensive things to my very close friends or to my wife in private. I certainly wouldn't film myself either saying those things or being present in a camera smiling when they are said. Public figures are always under scrutiny and Louis is an Olympian who would have received media training and mentoring so should know better. guess it is okay for him to receive a mountain of death threats" No. Nor was it okay for him to post his rubbish and nor is it okay for you to condone it. | |||
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"I wonder how Dave Allen would have got on in this brave new world." he would have been fine... he mocked religion as a general concept and didn't attack one specific religion.... "some" people like the whole "freedom of speech" thing.... but then cry about the way others deem fit to respond to their "freedom of speech".... | |||
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"I'm not going to suggest that Louis is a racist or even a bad guy. I would say though that he is naive or a numpty for want of a better word. I often say outrageous or offensive things to my very close friends or to my wife in private. I certainly wouldn't film myself either saying those things or being present in a camera smiling when they are said. Public figures are always under scrutiny and Louis is an Olympian who would have received media training and mentoring so should know better. guess it is okay for him to receive a mountain of death threats No. Nor was it okay for him to post his rubbish and nor is it okay for you to condone it." lady, I do as I please, you feel free to follow your own rule book and I will follow mine | |||
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"If you're going to mock other religions, perhaps also have the sense not to film it?? ahhhh, so tell me all about "the life of Brian" then explain that one . now this will be interesting" remind me wasn't it made and very funnily too by actors and not athletes who are meant to represent the country? | |||
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"I'm not going to suggest that Louis is a racist or even a bad guy. I would say though that he is naive or a numpty for want of a better word. I often say outrageous or offensive things to my very close friends or to my wife in private. I certainly wouldn't film myself either saying those things or being present in a camera smiling when they are said. Public figures are always under scrutiny and Louis is an Olympian who would have received media training and mentoring so should know better. guess it is okay for him to receive a mountain of death threats No. Nor was it okay for him to post his rubbish and nor is it okay for you to condone it. lady, I do as I please, you feel free to follow your own rule book and I will follow mine" Your "rule book?" What is that? | |||
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"I'm not going to suggest that Louis is a racist or even a bad guy. I would say though that he is naive or a numpty for want of a better word. I often say outrageous or offensive things to my very close friends or to my wife in private. I certainly wouldn't film myself either saying those things or being present in a camera smiling when they are said. Public figures are always under scrutiny and Louis is an Olympian who would have received media training and mentoring so should know better. guess it is okay for him to receive a mountain of death threats" Why don't you tell me whether it's okay to receive a mountain of death threats as I've made no mention of it? Unless there is a cryptic message in that your post somewhere? | |||
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"I do wonder if he has been targeted partly because he is gay. Religion is curiously intolerant when it comes to sexuality. " He's not gay ? | |||
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"Whoa, There are a few on here seem to be trying to claim the sense of humour high ground by citing Monty Python, Dave Allen, Frankie Boyle etc. Fuck off. You don't get to claim them. I recognise some of you posters for your right wing views. None of those would support your views. Stick to Jim Davidson and your old Bernard Manning videos. As Al Murray and other comedians often say, they worry that people don't actually get the point of their jokes. I'm pretty sure most UKIPpers think the pub landlord tells it like it is. I've got news for you, YOU are actually the butt of the jokes, aww bless you. So understand the difference between Louis Smith and those comedy giants. The Life Of Brian was a satire. The Python team crafted the film very carefully with a lot of thought and made a point that they held Jesus and his teachings in the highest regard. As Professor Burridge, the professor of Biblical Interpretation at King’s, who was presented with the 2013 Ratzinger Prize by Pope Francis – the first non-Roman Catholic ever to receive the award which has been widely likened to a Nobel Prize explains.. 'He said: “What is interesting about what Cleese says is that when they sat down to read the gospels they were struck by Jesus, his teaching, and realised that you couldn’t actually make a joke of these things which is why the accusation from Mervyn Stockwood and Malcolm Muggeridge that they were trying to use Jesus was so patently false. “I think it is an extraordinary tribute to the life and work and teaching of Jesus – that they couldn’t actually blaspheme or make a joke out of it. “What they did was take ordinary British people and transpose them into an historical setting and did a great satire on closed minds and people who follow blindly. “Then you have them splitting into factions … it is a wonderful satire on the way that Jesus’s own teaching has been used to persecute others. “They were satirising closed minds, they were satirising fundamentalism and persecution of others and at the same time saying the one person who rises above all this was Jesus, which I think is remarkable and I think that the church missed that at the time.” Dave Allen made fun of the Catholic Church and other faiths but it tended to be either affectionate gentle mocking of the clothes and ceremonies and authority figures in the higher echelons of holy orders, or else it was carefully thought out subversive views designed to provoke thought and analysis of the hypocrisy or illogical unscientific reasoning of the established church. Frankie Boyle is a comedian. He is an offensive comedian who has never managed to offend me. The reason for that, as Jimmy Carr says, is because you know he is a comedian. You watch him to be offended. You want him to be cruel, you challenge him to offend you. But he never really does. And do you know why? Because he is a COMEDIAN. It's all about context. If he actually meant the things he says then it wouldn't be funny. If he was a politician he would be a disgrace. Louis Smith may not have been nasty with what he did, but he is a public figure and he did it. He accepts it and his punishment. That is it. Don't try to use this as 'Political Correctness gone mad'. Political Correctness is about being considerate. " Yassss! | |||
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"Whoa, It's all about context. If he actually meant the things he says then it wouldn't be funny. If he was a politician he would be a disgrace. Louis Smith may not have been nasty with what he did, but he is a public figure and he did it. He accepts it and his punishment. That is it. Don't try to use this as 'Political Correctness gone mad'. Political Correctness is about being considerate. " . So it's all about context but your judging Louis smith from a 50 second video with no context?. He might not have done anything nasty but he accepts the punishment that you and society says he must.... Well that's mighty fine of you, I'll remember that when your mocking donnys hair like you often do in the politics forum?? ... Oh wait your not bothered about offending poor old Donny, an actual person but Mr smith mocking a religion, not a person is deserving of your "punishment" ..... Let's just pick and choose WHO and WHAT you CHOOSE is offensive.... No thanks I like living in a free fucking world, if and i often do I wish to mock people with spurious claims and exaggerated truths with promises that can't be proven i will and if there offended that's their fucking problem in fact that's the whole point of mocking to offend, when people mock Mr trump's hair they do it to offend him because what he says, does and promises is half assed bullshit full of bigotry, intolerance and quite frankly nonsense which encourages his audience into dangerous acts of setting human progress backwards.... Much like Islam!... Allah Akbar . . | |||
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"Whoa, There are a few on here seem to be trying to claim the sense of humour high ground by citing Monty Python, Dave Allen, Frankie Boyle etc. Fuck off. You don't get to claim them. I recognise some of you posters for your right wing views. None of those would support your views. Stick to Jim Davidson and your old Bernard Manning videos. As Al Murray and other comedians often say, they worry that people don't actually get the point of their jokes. I'm pretty sure most UKIPpers think the pub landlord tells it like it is. I've got news for you, YOU are actually the butt of the jokes, aww bless you. So understand the difference between Louis Smith and those comedy giants. The Life Of Brian was a satire. The Python team crafted the film very carefully with a lot of thought and made a point that they held Jesus and his teachings in the highest regard. As Professor Burridge, the professor of Biblical Interpretation at King’s, who was presented with the 2013 Ratzinger Prize by Pope Francis – the first non-Roman Catholic ever to receive the award which has been widely likened to a Nobel Prize explains.. 'He said: “What is interesting about what Cleese says is that when they sat down to read the gospels they were struck by Jesus, his teaching, and realised that you couldn’t actually make a joke of these things which is why the accusation from Mervyn Stockwood and Malcolm Muggeridge that they were trying to use Jesus was so patently false. “I think it is an extraordinary tribute to the life and work and teaching of Jesus – that they couldn’t actually blaspheme or make a joke out of it. “What they did was take ordinary British people and transpose them into an historical setting and did a great satire on closed minds and people who follow blindly. “Then you have them splitting into factions … it is a wonderful satire on the way that Jesus’s own teaching has been used to persecute others. “They were satirising closed minds, they were satirising fundamentalism and persecution of others and at the same time saying the one person who rises above all this was Jesus, which I think is remarkable and I think that the church missed that at the time.” Dave Allen made fun of the Catholic Church and other faiths but it tended to be either affectionate gentle mocking of the clothes and ceremonies and authority figures in the higher echelons of holy orders, or else it was carefully thought out subversive views designed to provoke thought and analysis of the hypocrisy or illogical unscientific reasoning of the established church. Frankie Boyle is a comedian. He is an offensive comedian who has never managed to offend me. The reason for that, as Jimmy Carr says, is because you know he is a comedian. You watch him to be offended. You want him to be cruel, you challenge him to offend you. But he never really does. And do you know why? Because he is a COMEDIAN. It's all about context. If he actually meant the things he says then it wouldn't be funny. If he was a politician he would be a disgrace. Louis Smith may not have been nasty with what he did, but he is a public figure and he did it. He accepts it and his punishment. That is it. Don't try to use this as 'Political Correctness gone mad'. Political Correctness is about being considerate. " Fille derobee......beautiful British name | |||
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"Whoa, There are a few on here seem to be trying to claim the sense of humour high ground by citing Monty Python, Dave Allen, Frankie Boyle etc. Fuck off. You don't get to claim them. I recognise some of you posters for your right wing views. None of those would support your views. Stick to Jim Davidson and your old Bernard Manning videos. As Al Murray and other comedians often say, they worry that people don't actually get the point of their jokes. I'm pretty sure most UKIPpers think the pub landlord tells it like it is. I've got news for you, YOU are actually the butt of the jokes, aww bless you. So understand the difference between Louis Smith and those comedy giants. The Life Of Brian was a satire. The Python team crafted the film very carefully with a lot of thought and made a point that they held Jesus and his teachings in the highest regard. As Professor Burridge, the professor of Biblical Interpretation at King’s, who was presented with the 2013 Ratzinger Prize by Pope Francis – the first non-Roman Catholic ever to receive the award which has been widely likened to a Nobel Prize explains.. 'He said: “What is interesting about what Cleese says is that when they sat down to read the gospels they were struck by Jesus, his teaching, and realised that you couldn’t actually make a joke of these things which is why the accusation from Mervyn Stockwood and Malcolm Muggeridge that they were trying to use Jesus was so patently false. “I think it is an extraordinary tribute to the life and work and teaching of Jesus – that they couldn’t actually blaspheme or make a joke out of it. “What they did was take ordinary British people and transpose them into an historical setting and did a great satire on closed minds and people who follow blindly. “Then you have them splitting into factions … it is a wonderful satire on the way that Jesus’s own teaching has been used to persecute others. “They were satirising closed minds, they were satirising fundamentalism and persecution of others and at the same time saying the one person who rises above all this was Jesus, which I think is remarkable and I think that the church missed that at the time.” Dave Allen made fun of the Catholic Church and other faiths but it tended to be either affectionate gentle mocking of the clothes and ceremonies and authority figures in the higher echelons of holy orders, or else it was carefully thought out subversive views designed to provoke thought and analysis of the hypocrisy or illogical unscientific reasoning of the established church. Frankie Boyle is a comedian. He is an offensive comedian who has never managed to offend me. The reason for that, as Jimmy Carr says, is because you know he is a comedian. You watch him to be offended. You want him to be cruel, you challenge him to offend you. But he never really does. And do you know why? Because he is a COMEDIAN. It's all about context. If he actually meant the things he says then it wouldn't be funny. If he was a politician he would be a disgrace. Louis Smith may not have been nasty with what he did, but he is a public figure and he did it. He accepts it and his punishment. That is it. Don't try to use this as 'Political Correctness gone mad'. Political Correctness is about being considerate. " well said.. | |||
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"Whoa, There are a few on here seem to be trying to claim the sense of humour high ground by citing Monty Python, Dave Allen, Frankie Boyle etc. Fuck off. You don't get to claim them. I recognise some of you posters for your right wing views. None of those would support your views. Stick to Jim Davidson and your old Bernard Manning videos. As Al Murray and other comedians often say, they worry that people don't actually get the point of their jokes. I'm pretty sure most UKIPpers think the pub landlord tells it like it is. I've got news for you, YOU are actually the butt of the jokes, aww bless you. So understand the difference between Louis Smith and those comedy giants. The Life Of Brian was a satire. The Python team crafted the film very carefully with a lot of thought and made a point that they held Jesus and his teachings in the highest regard. As Professor Burridge, the professor of Biblical Interpretation at King’s, who was presented with the 2013 Ratzinger Prize by Pope Francis – the first non-Roman Catholic ever to receive the award which has been widely likened to a Nobel Prize explains.. 'He said: “What is interesting about what Cleese says is that when they sat down to read the gospels they were struck by Jesus, his teaching, and realised that you couldn’t actually make a joke of these things which is why the accusation from Mervyn Stockwood and Malcolm Muggeridge that they were trying to use Jesus was so patently false. “I think it is an extraordinary tribute to the life and work and teaching of Jesus – that they couldn’t actually blaspheme or make a joke out of it. “What they did was take ordinary British people and transpose them into an historical setting and did a great satire on closed minds and people who follow blindly. “Then you have them splitting into factions … it is a wonderful satire on the way that Jesus’s own teaching has been used to persecute others. “They were satirising closed minds, they were satirising fundamentalism and persecution of others and at the same time saying the one person who rises above all this was Jesus, which I think is remarkable and I think that the church missed that at the time.” Dave Allen made fun of the Catholic Church and other faiths but it tended to be either affectionate gentle mocking of the clothes and ceremonies and authority figures in the higher echelons of holy orders, or else it was carefully thought out subversive views designed to provoke thought and analysis of the hypocrisy or illogical unscientific reasoning of the established church. Frankie Boyle is a comedian. He is an offensive comedian who has never managed to offend me. The reason for that, as Jimmy Carr says, is because you know he is a comedian. You watch him to be offended. You want him to be cruel, you challenge him to offend you. But he never really does. And do you know why? Because he is a COMEDIAN. It's all about context. If he actually meant the things he says then it wouldn't be funny. If he was a politician he would be a disgrace. Louis Smith may not have been nasty with what he did, but he is a public figure and he did it. He accepts it and his punishment. That is it. Don't try to use this as 'Political Correctness gone mad'. Political Correctness is about being considerate. " *pins medal to Fille Derobee's chest for best post of the week, and it's only Weds* Good work. | |||
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