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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating." No no wasnt meaning messages like that.. I meant general updates asking how things are etc..the last thing I would want was a stalker! | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating." Agreed. Otherwise its not really no strings. Men want sex, women want to get to know them first. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. No no wasnt meaning messages like that.. I meant general updates asking how things are etc..the last thing I would want was a stalker! " They're easily obtained on here! | |||
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"I agree .. I'm not a piece of meat .. u can swing and still get to know someone and feel like they have some level of respect for you and not just be discarded like a piece of trash ... it's happened a few times to me and like the op I now will only have socials with men until I get to know someone .. and it's not about dating .. it's about more than just fuck and go " Totally true | |||
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"I agree .. I'm not a piece of meat .. u can swing and still get to know someone and feel like they have some level of respect for you and not just be discarded like a piece of trash ... it's happened a few times to me and like the op I now will only have socials with men until I get to know someone .. and it's not about dating .. it's about more than just fuck and go " Sounds like dating to me. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating." im the same.. we have friends but they are people we have genuinely become friends with. when on as a single I would cancel meets if people expected me to stay in touch after meets were sorted. Let alone after. | |||
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"I agree .. I'm not a piece of meat .. u can swing and still get to know someone and feel like they have some level of respect for you and not just be discarded like a piece of trash ... it's happened a few times to me and like the op I now will only have socials with men until I get to know someone .. and it's not about dating .. it's about more than just fuck and go Sounds like dating to me." Doesn't to me, it sounds like wanting a regular meet or a friendship. Nowt wrong with that. I can appreciate a good one-off meet, but I also enjoy repeat meets. I don't find the one-offs cold, but I don't find the repeats anything remotely like dating either. | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all." I can assure you we are not all like that anyone I regularly talk to on here or elsewhere would back me up on that fact about how I conduct myself .that even means how I behave towards those I will never have the chance to play with to. you see I treat play partners the same as I treat non play partners or possible play partners as friends. now your post can also describe the behaviour of some woman out there to OP. as for leaving a play partner feeling used never going to happen with me for the simple reason if I'm playing with you I view you as a friend at the very least and I am the kind of guy who stays in daily or twice weekly contact with his friends you will always be hearing from me in between meets even if that was a very long time due to distances involved as well as that pesky thing called real life with its commitments that interfere with fun . | |||
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"Think it's different for singles and couples I like to stay in contact unless it was just a one off meet etc " i tend to talk more as a couple.. as a single even knowing there name was a rare thingm | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. I can assure you we are not all like that anyone I regularly talk to on here or elsewhere would back me up on that fact about how I conduct myself .that even means how I behave towards those I will never have the chance to play with to. you see I treat play partners the same as I treat non play partners or possible play partners as friends. now your post can also describe the behaviour of some woman out there to OP. as for leaving a play partner feeling used never going to happen with me for the simple reason if I'm playing with you I view you as a friend at the very least and I am the kind of guy who stays in daily or twice weekly contact with his friends you will always be hearing from me in between meets even if that was a very long time due to distances involved as well as that pesky thing called real life with its commitments that interfere with fun . " Wish there were many more like you! | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. " I'm in favour of this. You deal with the clingy ones and we'll take the eat, shoot & leaves. Sorted | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating." I kind of get this. But I agree with the Op too We are humans. And will always be no mayer how you package yourself for a meet. I will only see that as we talk. I want to know who I meet. I like to know things about you, hidden things you don't think is important, tells me what type of things I might do to please you. I don't like the idea of a cold meeting. It's better when you get to know each other. | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. I can assure you we are not all like that anyone I regularly talk to on here or elsewhere would back me up on that fact about how I conduct myself .that even means how I behave towards those I will never have the chance to play with to. you see I treat play partners the same as I treat non play partners or possible play partners as friends. now your post can also describe the behaviour of some woman out there to OP. as for leaving a play partner feeling used never going to happen with me for the simple reason if I'm playing with you I view you as a friend at the very least and I am the kind of guy who stays in daily or twice weekly contact with his friends you will always be hearing from me in between meets even if that was a very long time due to distances involved as well as that pesky thing called real life with its commitments that interfere with fun . Wish there were many more like you!" and I wish there was more women who don't fear friendship but sadly there are rather a lot who shy away from even friendship because its a commitment of a sort . | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I'm in favour of this. You deal with the clingy ones and we'll take the eat, shoot & leaves. Sorted " It's how it should be anyway, makes sense to me. Guys that purely want just a fuck should meet couples or women that are cheating on their partners. Everyone knows where they stand and can see it for what it is and that is just sex. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. I kind of get this. But I agree with the Op too We are humans. And will always be no mayer how you package yourself for a meet. I will only see that as we talk. I want to know who I meet. I like to know things about you, hidden things you don't think is important, tells me what type of things I might do to please you. I don't like the idea of a cold meeting. It's better when you get to know each other. " We do talk to the people we meet But not in the 'tell me a secret' kind of way Sometimes we're even honest about the county we live in and our actual names. Admittedly not often | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. " I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all." I get what you mean and expect the same myself to be honest, but then I do have on my profile that I am not a fuck and go type of person and will easily call someone on it. | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards " Yep and I like guys to sleep over for the night. | |||
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"I agree .. I'm not a piece of meat .. u can swing and still get to know someone and feel like they have some level of respect for you and not just be discarded like a piece of trash ... it's happened a few times to me and like the op I now will only have socials with men until I get to know someone .. and it's not about dating .. it's about more than just fuck and go " Totally agree x | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets " ^^^Exactly this | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets " | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. I kind of get this. But I agree with the Op too We are humans. And will always be no mayer how you package yourself for a meet. I will only see that as we talk. I want to know who I meet. I like to know things about you, hidden things you don't think is important, tells me what type of things I might do to please you. I don't like the idea of a cold meeting. It's better when you get to know each other. " Totally agree. | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets " +1 for this | |||
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"and I wish there was more women who don't fear friendship but sadly there are rather a lot who shy away from even friendship because its a commitment of a sort . " this is me to a degree. it's why fab suits me really well. i'd like to trust people but have realised that working the way i was on here means i won't find people i can trust, so have changed how i work on here for now. | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets " Totally agree with you x | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards Yep and I like guys to sleep over for the night. " Hmmm, sleepover for me would only be acceptable if a fine breakfast follows afterwards. Can't be skipping the most important meal of the day. | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets Totally agree with you x" This | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards " Ah snuggles | |||
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"I am by nature a people person and need to connect well before embarking on intimacy. However I also know I don't wish to date anyone. It's interesting how many people have differing views on this subject." I'm a people person to op anyone who has ever been on a social with me would back that up as I often chat impersonally to the bar staff anyone in fact. I give freely of myself with no expectations and if I'm honest I feel rather lucky as by doing this i have made friendships with some truly wonderful people very similar in life out look to me . I think the trick to being like I am is to not fear being let down or hurt and to always go with ones heart even if you know it will end in tears because a life with out such feeling is no life at all in my opinion , I crave memories and moments that will live with in me forever such moments and friendships will always contain risk but that's what makes then unforgettable moments and friendships in my humble opinion . | |||
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"John, when you say you 'talk inpersonally' makes me have an image in my head of you going to a meet with a ventriloquist dummy.... ".....'ere, 'e sez 'e fancies you, 'e duz', fancy a bit 'o ventriloquist cunniligus, duck'? " it means without agenda..xx | |||
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"John, when you say you 'talk inpersonally' makes me have an image in my head of you going to a meet with a ventriloquist dummy.... ".....'ere, 'e sez 'e fancies you, 'e duz', fancy a bit 'o ventriloquist cunniligus, duck'? " you could be right Steve as I'm open and will chat freely but I've often been told I'm hard to read and hard to get a bead on in the flesh. this is a trait I often use to tease the object of my desire in the flesh before play dates and during play dates as they can not tell if I'm pleased displeased or just indifferent . | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets " | |||
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"I agree .. I'm not a piece of meat .. u can swing and still get to know someone and feel like they have some level of respect for you and not just be discarded like a piece of trash ... it's happened a few times to me and like the op I now will only have socials with men until I get to know someone .. and it's not about dating .. it's about more than just fuck and go Sounds like dating to me. Doesn't to me, it sounds like wanting a regular meet or a friendship. Nowt wrong with that. I can appreciate a good one-off meet, but I also enjoy repeat meets. I don't find the one-offs cold, but I don't find the repeats anything remotely like dating either." | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating." Yes I hate that too, it happens a lot x | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. I can assure you we are not all like that anyone I regularly talk to on here or elsewhere would back me up on that fact about how I conduct myself .that even means how I behave towards those I will never have the chance to play with to. you see I treat play partners the same as I treat non play partners or possible play partners as friends. now your post can also describe the behaviour of some woman out there to OP. as for leaving a play partner feeling used never going to happen with me for the simple reason if I'm playing with you I view you as a friend at the very least and I am the kind of guy who stays in daily or twice weekly contact with his friends you will always be hearing from me in between meets even if that was a very long time due to distances involved as well as that pesky thing called real life with its commitments that interfere with fun . " That's possibly the most comprehensive white knighting that I've ever seen... Beard | |||
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"It confuses me so much. You start talking to a guy, conversation flows really well so you arrange to meet. In your opinion the meet is great and another one takes place. Then nothing! I wouldn't say I was clingy. Left it a couple of weeks before messaging again. Just asking if he wanted to arrange something and just got ignored. Does hurt a little as you think you got on well. It does hit your confidence. So to have a guy still chat after is great cos it means he isn't just wanting to get his end away and make you feel used. Guys who stay in contact are real men regardless of whether they want to meet again or not." or just hedging their bets | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. I can assure you we are not all like that anyone I regularly talk to on here or elsewhere would back me up on that fact about how I conduct myself .that even means how I behave towards those I will never have the chance to play with to. you see I treat play partners the same as I treat non play partners or possible play partners as friends. now your post can also describe the behaviour of some woman out there to OP. as for leaving a play partner feeling used never going to happen with me for the simple reason if I'm playing with you I view you as a friend at the very least and I am the kind of guy who stays in daily or twice weekly contact with his friends you will always be hearing from me in between meets even if that was a very long time due to distances involved as well as that pesky thing called real life with its commitments that interfere with fun . That's possibly the most comprehensive white knighting that I've ever seen... Beard" sorry you see it that way fella I can assure you its not as you see it but a true refection of me as a man . I'm often told I'm poly by those in the kink world but I don't see myself in that way. I just choose to play and act in a way that I need to feel comfortable enough to play in the first place . | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all." So have you messaged these men after a meet to see how they are doing? Just asking out of interest | |||
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"It confuses me so much. You start talking to a guy, conversation flows really well so you arrange to meet. In your opinion the meet is great and another one takes place. Then nothing! I wouldn't say I was clingy. Left it a couple of weeks before messaging again. Just asking if he wanted to arrange something and just got ignored. Does hurt a little as you think you got on well. It does hit your confidence. So to have a guy still chat after is great cos it means he isn't just wanting to get his end away and make you feel used. Guys who stay in contact are real men regardless of whether they want to meet again or not." but why would someone stay in contact if they didnt want to meet again. Seems a bit pointless | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. So have you messaged these men after a meet to see how they are doing? Just asking out of interest" Not the ones with no connection no but I like to keep in touch with many of the ones I have met socially yes and we have as well as the few I had great sex with which I have met again. The ones I felt used with I probably sensed this and so didn't get back to them no. | |||
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"I agree .. I'm not a piece of meat .. u can swing and still get to know someone and feel like they have some level of respect for you and not just be discarded like a piece of trash ... it's happened a few times to me and like the op I now will only have socials with men until I get to know someone .. and it's not about dating .. it's about more than just fuck and go " Yes I agree too, there is an important social side to swinging that I used to enjoy. Seems to have disappeared. I have felt totally used a cpl of times. Walk in, decline any offer of refreshments & straight to bedroom and then their off once deed is done. Felt like they had left money on the side. . . . But hey ho ~ that's just my feelings x | |||
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"It confuses me so much. You start talking to a guy, conversation flows really well so you arrange to meet. In your opinion the meet is great and another one takes place. Then nothing! I wouldn't say I was clingy. Left it a couple of weeks before messaging again. Just asking if he wanted to arrange something and just got ignored. Does hurt a little as you think you got on well. It does hit your confidence. So to have a guy still chat after is great cos it means he isn't just wanting to get his end away and make you feel used. Guys who stay in contact are real men regardless of whether they want to meet again or not.but why would someone stay in contact if they didnt want to meet again. Seems a bit pointless" a thanks but not interested in meeting again would be polite so people know where they stand at least | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. So have you messaged these men after a meet to see how they are doing? Just asking out of interest Not the ones with no connection no but I like to keep in touch with many of the ones I have met socially yes and we have as well as the few I had great sex with which I have met again. The ones I felt used with I probably sensed this and so didn't get back to them no." Maybe they didn't feel a connection with you too, people lead busy lives and don't necessarily want to message previous meets they have no intention on seeing again just to appear as a nice guy. I don't message ex gfs or old work colleagues I don't intend to see every so often to see how they are doing.. | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all." I think it's healthy to have some basis of knowledge about one another. Everyone is taking a risk in metting a stranger and some sort of level playing field so to speak is a must. | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all." I'm probably in the minority but I'v never bn able to turn up , fuck and go , if there's an attraction it has to be from both sides and the respect has to be there also , swinging or not , sex between two people is or should be a pleasurable experience for both otherwise what's the point ?? X | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating." There is nothing wrong in staying in touch . It shows an interest and in many respects subsequent meets are also more enjoyable . Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. There is nothing wrong in staying in touch . It shows an interest and in many respects subsequent meets are also more enjoyable . Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. " I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. There is nothing wrong in staying in touch . It shows an interest and in many respects subsequent meets are also more enjoyable . Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is." i doubt that. dating is investing time into someone and getting to know them with the hope that they're what you're looking for for a relationship. most people, i feel use the dating excuse because they don't wanna be honest and say, look i'm not interested in anything more than using you for sex. | |||
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" I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. i doubt that. dating is investing time into someone and getting to know them with the hope that they're what you're looking for for a relationship. " Exactly, though there is the concept of casual dating, most people on the street would call meeting regularly and having sex a relationship. | |||
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"Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. i doubt that. dating is investing time into someone and getting to know them with the hope that they're what you're looking for for a relationship. most people, i feel use the dating excuse because they don't wanna be honest and say, look i'm not interested in anything more than using you for sex." Interesting because I've always seen it the other way - that many people use this site in the hope of dating but prefer not to admit it. With regard to 'using' people for sex - that's exactly what we look for and we like to meet people who regard us likewise. That doesn't mean we don't need to get on with them and it doesn't mean we don't keep in touch with those we get on well with. It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. As for doubting that most people on the street would regard people meeting up regularly as dating or being in a relationship... have you been out much lately? | |||
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"I keep it pure nsa. I alwais send a message after and say it was a good meet, then if anything more happens, that is fine too " You don't meet though | |||
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" I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. i doubt that. dating is investing time into someone and getting to know them with the hope that they're what you're looking for for a relationship. Exactly, though there is the concept of casual dating, most people on the street would call meeting regularly and having sex a relationship." casual dating, to me, denotes that people are meeting for dates without the intention of anything serious. not sure why anyone would do that other than for company but i wouldn't think fuck and go is any kind of relationship at all. | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. " But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. | |||
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"Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. i doubt that. dating is investing time into someone and getting to know them with the hope that they're what you're looking for for a relationship. most people, i feel use the dating excuse because they don't wanna be honest and say, look i'm not interested in anything more than using you for sex. Interesting because I've always seen it the other way - that many people use this site in the hope of dating but prefer not to admit it. With regard to 'using' people for sex - that's exactly what we look for and we like to meet people who regard us likewise. That doesn't mean we don't need to get on with them and it doesn't mean we don't keep in touch with those we get on well with. It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. As for doubting that most people on the street would regard people meeting up regularly as dating or being in a relationship... have you been out much lately? " nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. loads of people use others for sex i do get that, i do myself obviously but hope the guy does not feel left used (unless he's into that and plenty seem to be lol), but using people is not a relationship at all either. it can be a part of friendship even, i get that too, but using someone isn't dating them, neither is kissing someone, cuddling them, or being respectful to them, none of that is dating. being affectionate is maybe crossing a line into giving someone something more than clinical, mechanical sex but neither is that dating. | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. " I'm not saying people shouldn't seek it. But if you are seeking it you have to accept this site may not be the best of sites to find it given the motives for people being here are more likely to be for no strings sex. if you happen to find it here anyway then | |||
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"Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. i doubt that. dating is investing time into someone and getting to know them with the hope that they're what you're looking for for a relationship. most people, i feel use the dating excuse because they don't wanna be honest and say, look i'm not interested in anything more than using you for sex. Interesting because I've always seen it the other way - that many people use this site in the hope of dating but prefer not to admit it. With regard to 'using' people for sex - that's exactly what we look for and we like to meet people who regard us likewise. That doesn't mean we don't need to get on with them and it doesn't mean we don't keep in touch with those we get on well with. It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. As for doubting that most people on the street would regard people meeting up regularly as dating or being in a relationship... have you been out much lately? nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. loads of people use others for sex i do get that, i do myself obviously but hope the guy does not feel left used (unless he's into that and plenty seem to be lol), but using people is not a relationship at all either. it can be a part of friendship even, i get that too, but using someone isn't dating them, neither is kissing someone, cuddling them, or being respectful to them, none of that is dating. being affectionate is maybe crossing a line into giving someone something more than clinical, mechanical sex but neither is that dating. " | |||
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"nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. " Assuming we're still debating people meeting regularly & having sex (not a one off fuck)... then I can only assume you have a narrow circle of friends because the vast majority of people I know would certainly consider it as dating (albeit not call it that apart from those aged 60+). None of them are stupid. Well maybe one.. | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards " I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. | |||
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"nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. Assuming we're still debating people meeting regularly & having sex (not a one off fuck)... then I can only assume you have a narrow circle of friends because the vast majority of people I know would certainly consider it as dating (albeit not call it that apart from those aged 60+). None of them are stupid. Well maybe one.." yes we are talking about that still. my circle is narrow yes, i don't hang out with users or toxic people so it is a very small circle of open minded people. i got lucky there. tbf to them they aren't stupid when i comes to everything either. | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. I'm not saying people shouldn't seek it. But if you are seeking it you have to accept this site may not be the best of sites to find it given the motives for people being here are more likely to be for no strings sex. if you happen to find it here anyway then " Got more chance of finding oil on this site than a boyfriend, but thanks | |||
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"nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. Assuming we're still debating people meeting regularly & having sex (not a one off fuck)... then I can only assume you have a narrow circle of friends because the vast majority of people I know would certainly consider it as dating (albeit not call it that apart from those aged 60+). None of them are stupid. Well maybe one.. yes we are talking about that still. my circle is narrow yes, i don't hang out with users or toxic people so it is a very small circle of open minded people. i got lucky there. tbf to them they aren't stupid when i comes to everything either." A narrow circle sounds interesting | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. I'm not saying people shouldn't seek it. But if you are seeking it you have to accept this site may not be the best of sites to find it given the motives for people being here are more likely to be for no strings sex. if you happen to find it here anyway then Got more chance of finding oil on this site than a boyfriend, but thanks " Don't mention oil or the fuckjng Americans might invade fab | |||
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"nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. Assuming we're still debating people meeting regularly & having sex (not a one off fuck)... then I can only assume you have a narrow circle of friends because the vast majority of people I know would certainly consider it as dating (albeit not call it that apart from those aged 60+). None of them are stupid. Well maybe one.. yes we are talking about that still. my circle is narrow yes, i don't hang out with users or toxic people so it is a very small circle of open minded people. i got lucky there. tbf to them they aren't stupid when i comes to everything either." Well that's not your average twenty people off the street is it? I'm talking about the ones who freak out when they see articles about swingers in The Sun - "normal" people | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. I'm not saying people shouldn't seek it. But if you are seeking it you have to accept this site may not be the best of sites to find it given the motives for people being here are more likely to be for no strings sex. if you happen to find it here anyway then Got more chance of finding oil on this site than a boyfriend, but thanks " You'll have no trouble finding oil on here | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. I'm all up for cuddles, especially with nice bangers like that my lovely from the valleys " I'm coastal I'm not from the valleys | |||
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"nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. Assuming we're still debating people meeting regularly & having sex (not a one off fuck)... then I can only assume you have a narrow circle of friends because the vast majority of people I know would certainly consider it as dating (albeit not call it that apart from those aged 60+). None of them are stupid. Well maybe one.. yes we are talking about that still. my circle is narrow yes, i don't hang out with users or toxic people so it is a very small circle of open minded people. i got lucky there. tbf to them they aren't stupid when i comes to everything either. Well that's not your average twenty people off the street is it? I'm talking about the ones who freak out when they see articles about swingers in The Sun - "normal" people " yes the normal maybe got me thinking wrong. we're actually not your average people are we. | |||
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" It does mean we're clear about the kind of fun we'll have and that we don't expect cuddles, breakfasts and lots of reassuring messages after the event. But you're a couple, you already have that with each other so why would you need those kind of things from a sex meet? I've been single for almost 8 years and it is lonely sometimes, when I'm with a guy I like to have some intimacy and affection, it's something that cannot be filled by your family and friends. I'm all up for cuddles, especially with nice bangers like that my lovely from the valleys I'm coastal I'm not from the valleys " That's not the valleys I speak of lol | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. " My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. Agreed. Otherwise its not really no strings. Men want sex, women want to get to know them first. " I didn't and still don't want to know anyone first. I am more than happy to meet fuck and never see the person again .... when I met men as a single, many of them wanted to tie me down to a relationship of sorts. It's not right to categorise people like that | |||
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"nobody i know would think that fucking someone is dating, no-one. and some of the people i know are stupid but not that stupid. Assuming we're still debating people meeting regularly & having sex (not a one off fuck)... then I can only assume you have a narrow circle of friends because the vast majority of people I know would certainly consider it as dating (albeit not call it that apart from those aged 60+). None of them are stupid. Well maybe one.. yes we are talking about that still. my circle is narrow yes, i don't hang out with users or toxic people so it is a very small circle of open minded people. i got lucky there. tbf to them they aren't stupid when i comes to everything either. A narrow circle sounds interesting " better than drama and bullshit. | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much " Yeah you English lot do cuddles and snuggles, down here we have cwtches and to be honest there's nothing better than a cwtch. | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much Yeah you English lot do cuddles and snuggles, down here we have cwtches and to be honest there's nothing better than a cwtch. " Don't know what that is but want one | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much Yeah you English lot do cuddles and snuggles, down here we have cwtches and to be honest there's nothing better than a cwtch. " Hmmm, one of the rough translations I found online is 'safe place' - I like that. | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much Yeah you English lot do cuddles and snuggles, down here we have cwtches and to be honest there's nothing better than a cwtch. Hmmm, one of the rough translations I found online is 'safe place' - I like that." It's a Welsh glory hole... or may have been cubby hole | |||
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" Problem is a lot of people on here think everyone else wants what they want It's a plethora of variation... just got to find your niche and like minded people " Exactly - people project so much on here!! | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much Yeah you English lot do cuddles and snuggles, down here we have cwtches and to be honest there's nothing better than a cwtch. " The Scots word is courie. Maybe related? | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. I agree, I want at least 1 hour and a half of booty snuggling afterwards I'm not sure that I could do that even if I was dating the person. "Snuggling" sounds fucking hideous to be fair. I don't think I do that. My wife and I don't really 'snuggle' that much Yeah you English lot do cuddles and snuggles, down here we have cwtches and to be honest there's nothing better than a cwtch. The Scots word is courie. Maybe related? " Forgot about courie well done bud | |||
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"I have been on fab for a while and met many folk but I am constantly taken aback at how.many guys are happy to grab your attention and then expect you to have sex with them without being interested in you and keen to keep in touch even on here! Has anyone else.found this? I not remotely interested in a relationship but I do find men are increasingly expecting us ladies to be little more than a glory hole. It is for that reason I am meeting men only socially for the time being with a view to getting to know someone before being intimate. Fortunately I have sensed this before getting intimate but there has been the odd guy I have been with and felt used afterwards - not a good feeling at all. I can assure you we are not all like that anyone I regularly talk to on here or elsewhere would back me up on that fact about how I conduct myself .that even means how I behave towards those I will never have the chance to play with to. you see I treat play partners the same as I treat non play partners or possible play partners as friends. now your post can also describe the behaviour of some woman out there to OP. as for leaving a play partner feeling used never going to happen with me for the simple reason if I'm playing with you I view you as a friend at the very least and I am the kind of guy who stays in daily or twice weekly contact with his friends you will always be hearing from me in between meets even if that was a very long time due to distances involved as well as that pesky thing called real life with its commitments that interfere with fun . That's possibly the most comprehensive white knighting that I've ever seen... Beard" Is it? I don't see him rushing to anyone's rescue. | |||
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"It's just plain wrong to suggest that all single women want more than just sex. There are many independent secure women who are sick of guys who feel the need to offer more or keep in touch." Yep. | |||
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"I'm confused. Anyone who mentions only wanting sex is told swinging is more than just sex and then when someone says they want more than just sex but not a relationship, they're told it sounds like dating I have to have a connection with someone before having sex with them and I like keeping in touch afterwards. I like repeat meets " | |||
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" Problem is a lot of people on here think everyone else wants what they want It's a plethora of variation... just got to find your niche and like minded people " this is very true.. I'm a really social person and at clubs will talk to all... but with meets I do not feel the need to have loads of chit chat and to much will put me off.. and if we have a single guy join us its always preferably that he doesn't linger. Hence clubs suit us. | |||
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"I actually like the idea of knowing something about anyone I have been intimate with...not talking about being pals on Facebook though! " I'm with you there. | |||
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"Maybe the guys that just want to blow their beans and leave should meet couples for fucks because couples have each other for intimacy and cuddles and all the soppy shit. Guys that want a little more from their meets should meet the single women that also want more from their meets. " I totally agree, best reply yet! | |||
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"I guess some people like to connect, others not so much. I like to connect. " It could also be that people have different ideas of what 'to connect' actually means to them. | |||
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"I think with the advent of social media, people are losing the ability to connect on a personal level. Swipe right swipe left meet kiss fuck leave never say another word. I was thinking how the swinging sites of today differ from ten years ago when I first signed up to a certain rival site. Apps like tinder with the swipe right/left instant gratification model have changed how people behave and not necessarily for the better. I see status updates from females increasingly highlighting guys just offering cash. I'm going to start a separate thread on that subject. Meet some traditional swingers in clubs these days and they can look bewildered and out of place. The social aspect is simply not part of the game for more and more new swingers. The scene is going through a big change. Suppose that reflects society at large." | |||
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"Yes OP, the single biggest reason I do not meet people on here is if they fail to demonstrate a desire for a depth of connection or ongoing friendship, despite my profile explaining that's what I am looking for now! I've had 'friendships' where we don't need to chat at all between meets, or others where we chat several times every single day - I have no rules, it depends on the dynamic between two people, it's the attitude that counts. It has to be someone or something pretty special to make me want a one-off meet now, though every friendship starts with a first meet that you both want to repeat. " Afternoon tea anyone | |||
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"I guess some people like to connect, others not so much. I like to connect. It could also be that people have different ideas of what 'to connect' actually means to them. " That is, of course, very true | |||
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"Yes OP, the single biggest reason I do not meet people on here is if they fail to demonstrate a desire for a depth of connection or ongoing friendship, despite my profile explaining that's what I am looking for now! I've had 'friendships' where we don't need to chat at all between meets, or others where we chat several times every single day - I have no rules, it depends on the dynamic between two people, it's the attitude that counts. It has to be someone or something pretty special to make me want a one-off meet now, though every friendship starts with a first meet that you both want to repeat. Afternoon tea anyone " Will there be cream scones?? | |||
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"Yes OP, the single biggest reason I do not meet people on here is if they fail to demonstrate a desire for a depth of connection or ongoing friendship, despite my profile explaining that's what I am looking for now! I've had 'friendships' where we don't need to chat at all between meets, or others where we chat several times every single day - I have no rules, it depends on the dynamic between two people, it's the attitude that counts. It has to be someone or something pretty special to make me want a one-off meet now, though every friendship starts with a first meet that you both want to repeat. Afternoon tea anyone Will there be cream scones?? " The full works making me feel hungry thinking about it | |||
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"Yes OP, the single biggest reason I do not meet people on here is if they fail to demonstrate a desire for a depth of connection or ongoing friendship, despite my profile explaining that's what I am looking for now! I've had 'friendships' where we don't need to chat at all between meets, or others where we chat several times every single day - I have no rules, it depends on the dynamic between two people, it's the attitude that counts. It has to be someone or something pretty special to make me want a one-off meet now, though every friendship starts with a first meet that you both want to repeat. Afternoon tea anyone Will there be cream scones?? The full works making me feel hungry thinking about it " | |||
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"Treat 'em mean keep 'em keen and all that! " The kind of women I am attracted to would rarely respond positively to being treated mean. It's simply about not having a 'one glove fits all' approach. Respect that some require more and some don't, you can have wonderful sex in both scenarios. The fun is in deciding which approach is the right fit to maximise the fun. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. There is nothing wrong in staying in touch . It shows an interest and in many respects subsequent meets are also more enjoyable . Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is." I really doubt it. They're never going to be introduced to my family, friends or work colleagues. They're never going to celebrate a birthday, Christmas, Valentines, new years, christening, wedding, anniversary etc with me. I fail to see how meeting someone regularly for sex could be viewed by anybody as dating. | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. There is nothing wrong in staying in touch . It shows an interest and in many respects subsequent meets are also more enjoyable . Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. I really doubt it. They're never going to be introduced to my family, friends or work colleagues. They're never going to celebrate a birthday, Christmas, Valentines, new years, christening, wedding, anniversary etc with me. I fail to see how meeting someone regularly for sex could be viewed by anybody as dating. " Tell you what... Do it tomorrow and then report back with the results | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. There is nothing wrong in staying in touch . It shows an interest and in many respects subsequent meets are also more enjoyable . Meeting regularly for sex is hardly dating. I'll bet if you asked twenty random people on the street if meeting somebody regularly and having sex with them was 'dating'... almost all of them would say yes it is. I really doubt it. They're never going to be introduced to my family, friends or work colleagues. They're never going to celebrate a birthday, Christmas, Valentines, new years, christening, wedding, anniversary etc with me. I fail to see how meeting someone regularly for sex could be viewed by anybody as dating. " Well years back I thought I was dating a guy because I met some of his family members, friends, went to his colleagues wedding but apparently we were 'just shagging' | |||
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"With the odd exception I prefer people not to stay in touch. I hate messages the day after asking when the next time will be etc. It's swinging, not dating. Agreed. Otherwise its not really no strings. Men want sex, women want to get to know them first. " Ok so how come on pof or Tinder i'd get birds telling me they wanna rape me or tie me up and fuck my brains out...it's not always guys...some girls really are horny and let go in a 1st message | |||
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