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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Breaking news in Birmingham a young man has been stabbed by what they describe as a 12 inch knife at moor street station the man is fighting for his life and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family. I have been stabbed twice in my life what can be done to prevent it as you cant really ban knives?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Knives on there own don't kill anyone ... Put one in the hands of someone with no respect for life then theres going to be trouble !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The simple answer is there is very little that can be done as "tougher sentences" will not be a deterrent to stop people carrying blades.

Look at the culture of violence in the world. Films full of violence, video games where you go around stabbing, and attacking people.

Television and video gaming is a massive part of why society has become more violent.

If anyone believes that the constant bombardment of violence and aggression on TV isn't a massive factor they are deluded. That's why they are called television (tell-lies-vision) PROGRAMMES, be ause they are programming the mind.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Sanitizing of violence; having it visible in the news, and fiction, and Internet constantly;

Erodes the " taboo" of violence and makes it an increasingly acceptable activity. Even, in some minds, a praiseworthy activity.

Add increasingly stressful life; and increasing mental health issues in society ( not helped by availability of drugs, nor by the dreadful state of mental health treatment).

But mostly; it's always happened; our " connected" world, 24/7 instantaneous news feed; makes us more aware.

50 years ago, an incident like this would have made the local paper in two days time, and might have been an inside page story in a national newspaper.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

I don't think it's because of tv and game violence

It's because of the break up of families and no parental guidance or paternal guidance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I was a kid you were terrified of the police. Sentences these days are so lean the wanna be ganstas are not frightened as they will get pathetic sentences

Family life has a huge impact on rights and wrongs it starts at home

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It happened in selly oak not moor street station.

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

Harsher punishment!

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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago

Babbacombe Torquay

Knife crime in the late 50's was far greater than it it is now, it just wasn't reported as much as the media has changed so much in the modern age.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The simple answer is there is very little that can be done as "tougher sentences" will not be a deterrent to stop people carrying blades.

Look at the culture of violence in the world. Films full of violence, video games where you go around stabbing, and attacking people.

Television and video gaming is a massive part of why society has become more violent.

If anyone believes that the constant bombardment of violence and aggression on TV isn't a massive factor they are deluded. That's why they are called television (tell-lies-vision) PROGRAMMES, be ause they are programming the mind."

I totally agree de sensitisation to what we see films are far more graphic and realistic than 10 years ago. The link between graphic violence on computer games films and the Internet has a big factor in the current situation.

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By *iver2015Woman
over a year ago

middlesbrough

Plastic knives...

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Knives on there own don't kill anyone ... Put one in the hands of someone with no respect for life then theres going to be trouble ! "

This reminds me of that old Larson cartoon with a flying saucer that bares the bumper sticker:

RAY GUNS DON'T KILL ZORBONIANS, ZORBONIANS KILL ZORBONIANS

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By *iver2015Woman
over a year ago

middlesbrough


"Knives on there own don't kill anyone ... Put one in the hands of someone with no respect for life then theres going to be trouble !

This reminds me of that old Larson cartoon with a flying saucer that bares the bumper sticker:

RAY GUNS DON'T KILL ZORBONIANS, ZORBONIANS KILL ZORBONIANS"

Also the lyrical genius of Goldie Lookin Chain (Guns don't kill people, rappers do).

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

“I took him to eat and ordered large for him in everything. I knew that wouldn’t have eaten properly for a few days. I asked him where he had been, he said he didn’t know just a place with trees and country lanes, one place he said was a sea-side.

"My next question was to find out how much did they pay him. At this point he tried to change the subject; these were his ‘family’ they would be there for him until the end and that was worth more than any riches. I persisted and in the end he told me they had paid him nothing, nothing at all.

“I drew comparisons with the people in the restaurant and even asked the waitress how much she was on an hour - £9.15 - minimum wage doesn’t seem like a lot but when you are in a crack house for two to three days at a time and getting paid nothing except promises it makes sense to do things legit.

Even at 14 years of age he got that.”

Initial meeting with a young man in a gang.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell them to fork off

Joking aside. Banning a weapon only changes the choice of weapons they carry and it can't be policed properly. I think harsher sentences and less luxury in prison's is the solution. If you let bad behavior slide and moan about it while doing nothing to tackle it then the natural progression is for it to escalate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kids have no respect for authorities, and it certainly does start at home. A lot of parents are so lazy these days that their offspring are going through life with little to no discipline. When they grow up they are Jeremy Kyle show fodder at best, many end up as jobless layabouts who take drugs and are always involved in violence.

Society has changed a lot over the last 35 years, and not all the changes have been for the better. There is no discipline in the schools, it is all down to parents, you can't give them a clip round the earhole anymore, and they know it.

Then there is the mental health system, which is another failure of society. People are walking the streets that are so unstable that they are dangerous to themselves and others.

It's a sad state of affairs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps a tad draconian but I wouldn't object to incarcerating violent criminals in concentration camps ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get Crocodile Dundee on the streets..."That's not a knife...."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Kids have no respect for authorities, and it certainly does start at home. A lot of parents are so lazy these days that their offspring are going through life with little to no discipline. When they grow up they are Jeremy Kyle show fodder at best, many end up as jobless layabouts who take drugs and are always involved in violence.

Society has changed a lot over the last 35 years, and not all the changes have been for the better. There is no discipline in the schools, it is all down to parents, you can't give them a clip round the earhole anymore, and they know it.

Then there is the mental health system, which is another failure of society. People are walking the streets that are so unstable that they are dangerous to themselves and others.

It's a sad state of affairs. "

The role of the Teacher is to educate not discipline by hitting a child, I went to school in the 60's and 70's and the old cliché of a clip round the ear is rose tinted spectacles to that bygone era..

Nuns used to lay in to kids with their hands or the cane, it wasn't conducive to a good learning environment..

and yes there are many issue's that the broader family,local community, society etc need to be addressing but violence as a means of gaining attention did not work and will not address the issue's that Teachers face..

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"The simple answer is there is very little that can be done as "tougher sentences" will not be a deterrent to stop people carrying blades.

Look at the culture of violence in the world. Films full of violence, video games where you go around stabbing, and attacking people.

Television and video gaming is a massive part of why society has become more violent.

If anyone believes that the constant bombardment of violence and aggression on TV isn't a massive factor they are deluded. That's why they are called television (tell-lies-vision) PROGRAMMES, be ause they are programming the mind.

I totally agree de sensitisation to what we see films are far more graphic and realistic than 10 years ago. The link between graphic violence on computer games films and the Internet has a big factor in the current situation."

" normalization" of violence is definitely a major factor.

It is very easy to change people's behaviour by images, sensory input and peer group input ( or apparent peer group)

Interestingly, it is easier to make people's behaviour more violent ( which is to do with removing boundaries to behaviour ) than to make people less violent; which requires building boundaries and structures of behaviour, and which needs to be done by agreement, and reward, not force. Severe punishment is seldom effective.

Actually, " Clockwork Orange " explores this theme ( and shows a forced " rehabilitation " eventually failing) - the book explains it better.

Many human psychological experiments have shown how this works. There are numerous academic volumes on the subject.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give them all 12 inch dildos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The answer is to demonise the spoon. Ban them from sale for anyone under 18. Put up posters to say how uncool they are to use and watch as kids put down knives and try to get their hands on spoons.

Then there will be no knife crime, but spoon crime instead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kids have no respect for authorities, and it certainly does start at home. A lot of parents are so lazy these days that their offspring are going through life with little to no discipline. When they grow up they are Jeremy Kyle show fodder at best, many end up as jobless layabouts who take drugs and are always involved in violence.

Society has changed a lot over the last 35 years, and not all the changes have been for the better. There is no discipline in the schools, it is all down to parents, you can't give them a clip round the earhole anymore, and they know it.

Then there is the mental health system, which is another failure of society. People are walking the streets that are so unstable that they are dangerous to themselves and others.

It's a sad state of affairs.

The role of the Teacher is to educate not discipline by hitting a child, I went to school in the 60's and 70's and the old cliché of a clip round the ear is rose tinted spectacles to that bygone era..

Nuns used to lay in to kids with their hands or the cane, it wasn't conducive to a good learning environment..

and yes there are many issue's that the broader family,local community, society etc need to be addressing but violence as a means of gaining attention did not work and will not address the issue's that Teachers face.."

Schools are bloody useless these days, the kids can do whatever the hell they want, because they are not dealt with. The ban on corporal punishment began during my last year at school. I remember three teachers got assaulted in the first week. It had gone from being a strict school in a tough council estate, to an undisciplined mess, and it is still the same. Sure there are mainly good kids who are there to learn, but they are disrupted by the behaviour of those who are not. It's always been that way, but when the naughty kids are taken out of class and punished, order is restored.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The answer is to demonise the spoon. Ban them from sale for anyone under 18. Put up posters to say how uncool they are to use and watch as kids put down knives and try to get their hands on spoons.

Then there will be no knife crime, but spoon crime instead."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The simple answer is there is very little that can be done as "tougher sentences" will not be a deterrent to stop people carrying blades.

Look at the culture of violence in the world. Films full of violence, video games where you go around stabbing, and attacking people.

Television and video gaming is a massive part of why society has become more violent.

If anyone believes that the constant bombardment of violence and aggression on TV isn't a massive factor they are deluded. That's why they are called television (tell-lies-vision) PROGRAMMES, be ause they are programming the mind.

I totally agree de sensitisation to what we see films are far more graphic and realistic than 10 years ago. The link between graphic violence on computer games films and the Internet has a big factor in the current situation."

Fully agree as do so many reports and case studies by those in the know. We're deluded if we think otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Government under pressure by liberalism by misguided 'freedom' has removed parental responsibility by taking away their powers to discipline.... caused by the minority of misabuse cases.... then finding that control is needed and so wrongly trying to give it over the educational institutions to redress the issues in society.

Most good parents are becoming more fearful of genuinely disciplining of their children for fear of outside intervention.

We wonder why society is becoming less and less respectful of others....its a spiral ....only one way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite simple really, criminalise attacks on people with knives and decriminalise knives.

scouts and guides used to carry a 6" sheath knife as part of the uniform, they were then taught about the uses and dangers of a blade.

At the same time put an attempted murder charge to anyone using a knife or screwdriver or similar bladed weapon against a person.

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By *im2plznottsMan
over a year ago

hadfield

Do wot i do get the two parties involved av a talk give em sum gloves n av it out like a proper man least u get to walk away resolved a few of my differances that way i dnt no how other ppl see this but i spose they havent seen the shit i av over the yrs sooo many friends lost due to the cowards way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Decriminilise other pointless laws and give harsher penalties for carrying them in public,

3 strikes and its porridge for the next 25 years

1st offence = 5 years

2nd offence =10 years

3rd and final offence = 25 years

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By *im2plznottsMan
over a year ago

hadfield


"Do wot i do get the two parties involved av a talk give em sum gloves n av it out like a proper man least u get to walk away resolved a few of my differances that way i dnt no how other ppl see this but i spose they havent seen the shit i av over the yrs sooo many friends lost due to the cowards way "
RIP to the lost and there familys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do wot i do get the two parties involved av a talk give em sum gloves n av it out like a proper man least u get to walk away resolved a few of my differances that way i dnt no how other ppl see this but i spose they havent seen the shit i av over the yrs sooo many friends lost due to the cowards way "

That doesn't really apply to street crime problem though.

The escalation of weapon uses in kids fights do seem to tie in with tv action movie censorship, and computer games.

As long as TV can show people being hit with chairs, baseball bats, knives, even grenades and walking away uninjured, kids will think it's OK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Decriminilise other pointless laws and give harsher penalties for carrying them in public,

3 strikes and its porridge for the next 25 years

1st offence = 5 years

2nd offence =10 years

3rd and final offence = 25 years

"

So what would you give a chef on his or her way to work with a full case of knives?

sod the 3 strikes, pull a knife or screwdriver in a fight, 25 years minimum, add time for any injuries actually caused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chef on there way to work different than a teenager with a knife tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Decriminilise other pointless laws and give harsher penalties for carrying them in public,

3 strikes and its porridge for the next 25 years

1st offence = 5 years

2nd offence =10 years

3rd and final offence = 25 years

So what would you give a chef on his or her way to work with a full case of knives?

sod the 3 strikes, pull a knife or screwdriver in a fight, 25 years minimum, add time for any injuries actually caused."

Id give him a 5er and order food

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Decriminilise other pointless laws and give harsher penalties for carrying them in public,

3 strikes and its porridge for the next 25 years

1st offence = 5 years

2nd offence =10 years

3rd and final offence = 25 years

So what would you give a chef on his or her way to work with a full case of knives?

sod the 3 strikes, pull a knife or screwdriver in a fight, 25 years minimum, add time for any injuries actually caused."
that's what I got stabbed with bloody screw driver by some little chav trying to rob my dads car he legged it though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"“I took him to eat and ordered large for him in everything. I knew that wouldn’t have eaten properly for a few days. I asked him where he had been, he said he didn’t know just a place with trees and country lanes, one place he said was a sea-side.

"My next question was to find out how much did they pay him. At this point he tried to change the subject; these were his ‘family’ they would be there for him until the end and that was worth more than any riches. I persisted and in the end he told me they had paid him nothing, nothing at all.

“I drew comparisons with the people in the restaurant and even asked the waitress how much she was on an hour - £9.15 - minimum wage doesn’t seem like a lot but when you are in a crack house for two to three days at a time and getting paid nothing except promises it makes sense to do things legit.

Even at 14 years of age he got that.”

Initial meeting with a young man in a gang.

"

Sobering

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By *es-sMan
over a year ago

Rugby


"Tell them to fork off

Joking aside. Banning a weapon only changes the choice of weapons they carry and it can't be policed properly. I think harsher sentences and less luxury in prison's is the solution. If you let bad behavior slide and moan about it while doing nothing to tackle it then the natural progression is for it to escalate "
Totally agree harsher punishment

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By *es-sMan
over a year ago

Rugby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More Cops on the streets would help, police forces are at an all time low, less money is available for new officers with the government asking for millions in savings each year. Cops have more crimes to investigate then ever before so spend less time being proactive and being seen on the street, stopping the growing gang/thug life in most towns and city's.

Just my opinion x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Chef on there way to work different than a teenager with a knife tho "

Exactly the reason that a law saying x type or length of blade is illegal to carry falls short, criminalise the act of attacking someone with a deadly weapon, not the knife which may be a legitimate tool.

The way the law is written at the moment, if I get stopped on my way to the woods, it's OK to carry an axe, a hatchet, a chainsaw, and any screwdriver I want, but if I have a 4" lock knife in my pocket that is illegal...

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

Stab proof vests to be sold at a cheep price in shops.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Knife crime in the late 50's was far greater than it it is now, it just wasn't reported as much as the media has changed so much in the modern age."

Violent Crime is, in fact, on a downward spiral and has been since the 1950's

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Plastic knives...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Research shows that young people today drink less and use fewer drugs than their parents generation.

There are obviously some young people who are unpleasant, as are there are older people but the evidence simply doesn't back up the oft-declared apocalyptic vision of a generation of miscreants - just as it didn't when our parents were declaring that the world was going to hell in a handcart when we young.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Stab proof vests to be sold at a cheep price in shops."
have you felt the weight of one of them and it doesn't stop them stabbing you in the side or your neck but I know where your coming from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guns!

Youd be a fool to be carrying a knife if everyone was armed!

Problem solved

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it. "
problem is when I was at school we were scared of the teachers we had some of them were right horrible bastards but now teachers are more scared of the kids there is no real discipline in school.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it. problem is when I was at school we were scared of the teachers we had some of them were right horrible bastards but now teachers are more scared of the kids there is no real discipline in school."

Bring back the Kane !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it. problem is when I was at school we were scared of the teachers we had some of them were right horrible bastards but now teachers are more scared of the kids there is no real discipline in school.

Bring back the Kane !!"
the cane was a deterrent but not acceptable these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It happened in selly oak not moor street station."

Heard about this earlier. Currently in Selly Oak visiting family as well. There was one last week just up the road in Northfield.

XX

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It happened in selly oak not moor street station.

Heard about this earlier. Currently in Selly Oak visiting family as well. There was one last week just up the road in Northfield.

XX"
madness I was stuck in alum rock three weeks ago because a young lad was murdered 10 minutes before I got there

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it. problem is when I was at school we were scared of the teachers we had some of them were right horrible bastards but now teachers are more scared of the kids there is no real discipline in school.

Bring back the Kane !!the cane was a deterrent but not acceptable these days "

Yep there wasn't a single stabbing or shooting or granny getting mugged for her pension back when kids were being Wigginsed in the good old days

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it. problem is when I was at school we were scared of the teachers we had some of them were right horrible bastards but now teachers are more scared of the kids there is no real discipline in school.

Bring back the Kane !!the cane was a deterrent but not acceptable these days

Yep there wasn't a single stabbing or shooting or granny getting mugged for her pension back when kids were being Wigginsed in the good old days"
the point is kids learn their first social behaviour in school if they are allowed to do what they want they take that into later life the cane isn't the answer but there was more respect then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Knife crime in the late 50's was far greater than it it is now, it just wasn't reported as much as the media has changed so much in the modern age.

Violent Crime is, in fact, on a downward spiral and has been since the 1950's "

How dare you start throwing around facts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ban violence altogether, all violence.

this means wars, this means poverty, this means sexism and all the other phobias, don't show it on the media unless you also show empathy with that.

not hard to make a society that doesn't put up with all forms of violence, but you will need people more liberal and caring than we have now running everything.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Bigger knives?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Education but it's getting people to engage and hope, because if an area becomes a no go zone how do you

help people who live there see that there's a different way to be.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Have a curfew, as most of knife crime is done by youths, obviously this is not the best answer.

I would say more stop and search powers for police, but you would need more police.

You could make whole towns nudist areas, bit hard to hide a knife when you are naked.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"It takes bloody ages to get to hell pushing a wheelbarrow...

But yes you are right, every generation gives the blame to teenagers who seldom deserve it. problem is when I was at school we were scared of the teachers we had some of them were right horrible bastards but now teachers are more scared of the kids there is no real discipline in school.

Bring back the Kane !!the cane was a deterrent but not acceptable these days

Yep there wasn't a single stabbing or shooting or granny getting mugged for her pension back when kids were being Wigginsed in the good old daysthe point is kids learn their first social behaviour in school if they are allowed to do what they want they take that into later life the cane isn't the answer but there was more respect then "

Errr

Kids should be learning their "first social behaviour" at home.

Sadly, many don't; given that their parents don't follow " social behaviour " either.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Never take a knife to a gunfight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never take a knife to a gunfight."

Unless your opponent is a bad shot and only has 5 bullets

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By *uicy jonesMan
over a year ago

near a big hill in s/ shropshire NOT in

It's not the knife !!! It's the person using it !!!!

Don't think there will ever be a solution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ban violence altogether, all violence.

this means wars, this means poverty, this means sexism and all the other phobias, don't show it on the media unless you also show empathy with that.

not hard to make a society that doesn't put up with all forms of violence, but you will need people more liberal and caring than we have now running everything."

Not asking for much are you

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I dont know if violence has got worse.

Im 51, my dad was a street fighter, there was plenty of stories to be told.

There has always been gangs and violence in inner cities. An old family friend died recently aged 103 she had always been a headmistress in inner city schools and they used to frisk some of the kids for knives and that was when they where about 8.

The cycle needs to be broken, children need to learn to be shown how to respect things.

More projects and youth groups, more community involvement.

People need to join forces.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You could make whole towns nudist areas, bit hard to hide a knife when you are naked. "

But in the winter it would look like smurf town

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ban violence altogether, all violence.

this means wars, this means poverty, this means sexism and all the other phobias, don't show it on the media unless you also show empathy with that.

not hard to make a society that doesn't put up with all forms of violence, but you will need people more liberal and caring than we have now running everything.

Not asking for much are you "

it's not that hard really.

educate people on mental health disorders, like sociopathy, and properly educate people then we can see what's really wrong with our societies and why we won't cure everyone but we also have the means to not tolerate any form of violence upon and person.

educate them properly on social issues and mental health so we can see why society is the way it is and why some accept what is happening and others do not.

but zero tolerance for violence is the main way. and letting everyone know their basic right is to be homed, fed, clean, warm, and cared for.

our leaders can encourage all kinds of violence, push that sociopathic mental disorders are normal and should be accepted for the good of 'our' nation (really they mean their nation, their people). when this is all bullshit and not true.

i accepted poverty was my fate at one time, that i didn't have the right to a lot of things because sciety taught me that as someone who didn't work, but was left to bring up my kids on my own thanks to actual violence, that we didn't deserve anything. i don't hold that opinion now and can't believe i used to think this way because leaders told me this and their sheep agreed.

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By *ertsguy2000Man
over a year ago

hertford

Do what they do where there is zero knife crime

Saudi Arabia there'll cut their f&@?ing hands off = zero knife crime

Do that a few times and you'll have to very very stupid to carry a knife around!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Give them all 12 inch dildos "
We would all be fucked then....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do what they do where there is zero knife crime

Saudi Arabia there'll cut their f&@?ing hands off = zero knife crime

Do that a few times and you'll have to very very stupid to carry a knife around!!"

How do they cut your hand off if nobody has a knife?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Saw a TV programme recently, with an interview of the distraught mother. She had attended the pre-trial at the old Bailey with the 2 "kids" who had stabbed her 15 year old to death. All she could recall was seeing the two accused of laughing and smiling in the dock.

No really a sign that the Law or it's punishment are of any consequence to gangs..

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Give everyone else guns ?

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The answer would be essentially to kill of Media communications.

By that I mean, News events, Movies, Music.

But that will never happen.

That being said, there have been reports that none of the above influence somebodies decision to kill or stab someone.

Which is utter bollocks because nobody is born into this world with the built in program/desire to fucking kill someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Saw a TV programme recently, with an interview of the distraught mother. She had attended the pre-trial at the old Bailey with the 2 "kids" who had stabbed her 15 year old to death. All she could recall was seeing the two accused of laughing and smiling in the dock.

No really a sign that the Law or it's punishment are of any consequence to gangs..

"

it's of no consequence to sadistic sociopaths. they justify everything they do and have no empathy for those they are harming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Make the consequences of knife crime severe. People respond to significant punishment and financial hardship, or the threat of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Saw a TV programme recently, with an interview of the distraught mother. She had attended the pre-trial at the old Bailey with the 2 "kids" who had stabbed her 15 year old to death. All she could recall was seeing the two accused of laughing and smiling in the dock.

No really a sign that the Law or it's punishment are of any consequence to gangs..

it's of no consequence to sadistic sociopaths. they justify everything they do and have no empathy for those they are harming."

If the perpetrator has mental health issues with violent tendencies, they often have no concept of right and wrong so laws are ineffective for these people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good hard swift kick in the nuts usually does the job??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Saw a TV programme recently, with an interview of the distraught mother. She had attended the pre-trial at the old Bailey with the 2 "kids" who had stabbed her 15 year old to death. All she could recall was seeing the two accused of laughing and smiling in the dock.

No really a sign that the Law or it's punishment are of any consequence to gangs..

it's of no consequence to sadistic sociopaths. they justify everything they do and have no empathy for those they are harming.

If the perpetrator has mental health issues with violent tendencies, they often have no concept of right and wrong so laws are ineffective for these people."

sociopathy is a mental disorder but, yes they don't really care about laws and put themselves above the law and justify it.

they do know what is right and wrong, they just do not care as doing the right thing does not benefit their sadism or themselves.

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By *oneeMan
over a year ago

bath

Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them"

Should sort things out i guess,

Have you ever been jumped by 10 police officers for nothing ?

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By *ightfall79Man
over a year ago

Dunbartonshire

Sadly there is no way to stop knife crime. One if the easiest weapons to buy either from shops or online.

No questions no address details just wander into the shop and buy the knife you want.

Really is no way to stop knife crime. How can you even police potential knife crime , every household had a lethal knife in there kitchen drawer.

I reckon on a Saturday night out you walk past at least 4 people who are carrying a knife. Weather it be a Stanley knife or a 12" blade down there sleeve.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Anyone who says violence on TV and in films etc. makes no difference needs to ask themselves why do companies spend millions on TV & movie advertising?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them"

Yes because all police men and women are 100% squeaky clean and never do anything wrong make mistakes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol the police are probably the biggest criminals out there . I know from experience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them

Should sort things out i guess,

Have you ever been jumped by 10 police officers for nothing ?"

Yes, the police are noted for wandering in packs and just leaping on innocent passers by...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them"

They are rarely around when that sort of stuff is going on..and by the time they get there it's usually all over.

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

Knives are the very tip of the iceberg. It's gang culture which encourages kids to carry knives. Groups of young people who need guidance and simply not getting it. It's a major problem in places like Birmingham, London and Manchester. These cities are crying out for mentors to take these young men under their wing but sadly coming up short.

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By *hyblueEyesMan
over a year ago

Daventry

Everyone knows you need a fork for your knife. So the answer must be to go out in the world and fork. I love a good fork before bed, followed by a spoon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as there are humans and there's sharp stuff or shooty stuff or blowy up stuff or runny over you stuff we can use to kill each other with, some of us will carry on killing each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them"

That works ever where in the world that the police carry guns. Definitely a good idea, honestly, look at America...no trouble ever happens there Because The Police Have Guns

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax


"Arm the police and if anyone carrying a knife and threatening someone just shoot them

That works ever where in the world that the police carry guns. Definitely a good idea, honestly, look at America...no trouble ever happens there Because The Police Have Guns "

Lol

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