FabSwingers.com forum: Bob Dylan

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No, not that Nobel stuff.

I have never been a fan of his delivery but his songs are wonderful.

Is anyone else more a fan of covers of his songs than the originals? Joan Biez, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses ... just not Bob?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For many years I loved the song " Try and catch the wind "thinking it was Bob Dylan when in-fact it was Donovan....

It's one for my all time top 10

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he's wrote some great songs but the only song i can listen to when he's singing is lay lady lay.anything else is dreadfull his voice is awful

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"he's wrote some great songs but the only song i can listen to when he's singing is lay lady lay.anything else is dreadfull his voice is awful"

Weird, isn't it? Great songs. Crap delivery.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I always liked "it's all over now, baby blue" by the chocolate watch band.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah you can't say crap delivery, he's don't some fantastic tracks... Hurricane is my favourite but many are great because it's him doing it...

As for covers plenty of them over the years but Hendrix version of all along the watchtower is my personal favourite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think hes a very talented person to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ah you can't say crap delivery, he's don't some fantastic tracks... Hurricane is my favourite but many are great because it's him doing it...

As for covers plenty of them over the years but Hendrix version of all along the watchtower is my personal favourite "

I know he has millions of fans.

I feel a bit left out as I appreciate his songwriting but hate his voice.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

I'm a big fan of the man. His songwriting and his singing.

His voice never bothered me in the slightest. If anything, it was as much the voice as it was the songs that initially pulled me in. But then singing to me is always more about how you're delivering the song, the attitude and the soul behind it, than it is the actual vocal tone. Just because a voice is mellifluous, doesn't mean I want to hear it (see X Factor). I can certainly understand how it might not be to some peoples taste though.

As an ad from early in his career stated, "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to prefer covers of his songs for exactly the same reason as the OP but I don't mind so much these days, it's the imperfection that makes his voice stand out from the crowd, and the lyrics are just pure genius.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Thought this was a death announcement.

However I have total respect for him, he loved Johnny Cash and worked with him.

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By *ylonesqueMan
over a year ago

Near Aberystwyth

I love that video where he holds up the cards with all the words on, and drops them in time. It's a great song too, but I'm not a massive fan.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I don't think there's anything wrong with his voice when he was in his real purple patch. In fact, he sounds great on albums like Highway 61 Revisited, Bringing it All Back Home and Blonde on Blonde - his voice is an asset on them.

Far better than some soulless X-Factor over-emoting!

I love his words - his book Chronicles is a wonderful read too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes totally, genious song writing, genious guitar playing, I just struggle with his vocals,I think its just a personal thing, that I dont really think he can sing very well, I know millions love him

but yes I do prefer covers of his tunes

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

"No, not that Nobel stuff.

I have never been a fan of his delivery but his songs are wonderful.

Is anyone else more a fan of covers of his songs than the originals? Joan Biez, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses ... just not Bob?"
Dylan's live at budokan is brilliantly bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. Always thought he was over-rated to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wigwam

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By *ildbillkidMan
over a year ago

where the road goes on forever

Blood on the tracks , desire, are my favorites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great artist, a well deserved prize

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he's on vintage tv now singing knocking on heavens door .it sounds dreadful

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"he's on vintage tv now singing knocking on heavens door .it sounds dreadful "

He is clealy an artist who divides opinion.

I want to like him. I love some of his songs.

I just hate the way he performs them.

Knocking on heavens door? Clapton or Guns anytime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bryan Ferry's Dylan cover of Hard Rain’s Gonna Fall

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that all went well.....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Well that all went well.....

Patti Smith singing was, erm...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all went well.....

Patti Smith singing was, erm...

Yes very erm....

I saw her play the Reading festival many many years ago ,,,, she was awesome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, not that Nobel stuff.

I have never been a fan of his delivery but his songs are wonderful.

Is anyone else more a fan of covers of his songs than the originals? Joan Biez, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses ... just not Bob?"

Yep. Think he's a great songwriter, but can't stand his voice

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Well that all went well.....

Patti Smith singing was, erm...

Yes very erm....

I saw her play the Reading festival many many years ago ,,,, she was awesome

Forgetting the words when the prize is for words made me chuckle.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Seen him live and he was bloody awful.

Great song writer hopeless performer.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Is anyone else more a fan of covers of his songs than the originals? Joan Biez, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses ... just not Bob?"

Yes.

And Dylan's not very good live, either, imo.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I love that video where he holds up the cards with all the words on, and drops them in time. It's a great song too, but I'm not a massive fan. "

Subterranean Homesick Blues.

I like Dylan, but find his voice more tolerable the younger he is. I don't think I've heard a cover of "Masters of War" that beats the original.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm a big fan of the man. His songwriting and his singing.

As an ad from early in his career stated, "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan."

Maybe that's because no-one would WANT to sing Dylan like Dylan!

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I'm a big fan of the man. His songwriting and his singing.

As an ad from early in his career stated, "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan."

Maybe that's because no-one would WANT to sing Dylan like Dylan!

Voice like sand and glue, apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Dylan's comment about Leonard Cohen being something like the best lyric-writer speaks volumes. Cohen was a greater loss to music than he was credited for. He should by rights have been a much bigger name. Buckley both helped and nearly destroyed Cohen with his extraordinary cover of Hallelujah! Not sure Dylan quite stands up to either Cohen or Buckley - he's just had a greater output and lived longer!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm a big fan of the man. His songwriting and his singing.

As an ad from early in his career stated, "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan."

Maybe that's because no-one would WANT to sing Dylan like Dylan!

Voice like sand and glue, apparently.

Yep, Dylan would have got nowhere on X-factor!

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I think Dylan's comment about Leonard Cohen being something like the best lyric-writer speaks volumes. Cohen was a greater loss to music than he was credited for. He should by rights have been a much bigger name. Buckley both helped and nearly destroyed Cohen with his extraordinary cover of Hallelujah! Not sure Dylan quite stands up to either Cohen or Buckley - he's just had a greater output and lived longer! "

I agree that Cohens body of work was comparable, but Buckley? One album and some Morissey covers? I did like Jeff Buckleys album, but I don't think that he really had anything to say, in the same way that the other two did.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"I'm a big fan of the man. His songwriting and his singing.

As an ad from early in his career stated, "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan."

Maybe that's because no-one would WANT to sing Dylan like Dylan!

Voice like sand and glue, apparently.

Compared to Dylan, I'll take the sand and glue.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I'm a big fan of the man. His songwriting and his singing.

As an ad from early in his career stated, "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan."

Maybe that's because no-one would WANT to sing Dylan like Dylan!

Voice like sand and glue, apparently.

Compared to Dylan, I'll take the sand and glue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiK7HcUx_BY

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Seen him live and he was bloody awful.

Great song writer hopeless performer."

Got to agree, he has written some great songs, but his voice leaves me thinking what if?

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

Perhaps Dylan nailed it himself when he said.

"Oh, yeah. Critics have been giving me a hard time since Day One. Critics say I can't sing. I croak. Sound like a frog. Why don't critics say that same thing about Tom Waits? Critics say my voice is shot. That I have no voice. What don't they say those things about Leonard Cohen? Why do I get special treatment? Critics say I can't carry a tune and I talk my way through a song. Really? I've never heard that said about Lou Reed. Why does he get to go scot-free?

What have I done to deserve this special attention? No vocal range? When's the last time you heard Dr. John? Why don't you say that about him? Slur my words, got no diction. Have you people ever listened to Charley Patton or Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters. Talk about slurred words and no diction. [Inaudible] doesn't even matter.

"Why me, Lord?" I would say that to myself.

Critics say I mangle my melodies, render my songs unrecognizable. Oh, really? Let me tell you something. I was at a boxing match a few years ago seeing Floyd Mayweather fight a Puerto Rican guy. And the Puerto Rican national anthem, somebody sang it and it was beautiful. It was heartfelt and it was moving.

After that it was time for our national anthem. And a very popular soul-singing sister was chosen to sing. She sang every note -- that exists, and some that don't exist. Talk about mangling a melody. You take a one-syllable word and make it last for 15 minutes? She was doing vocal gymnastics like she was on a trapeze act. But to me it was not funny.

Where were the critics? Mangling lyrics? Mangling a melody? Mangling a treasured song? No, I get the blame. But I don't really think I do that. I just think critics say I do.

Sam Cooke said this when told he had a beautiful voice: He said, "Well that's very kind of you, but voices ought not to be measured by how pretty they are. Instead they matter only if they convince you that they are telling the truth." Think about that the next time you [inaudible]."

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Not gonna quote the above post, but it's pretty much like Morrissey, The Smiths wrote some awesome music, but his voice just doesn't do it for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I adore Dylan - songs, lyrics and voice.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

I love Dylan and also Joni Mitchell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not gonna quote the above post, but it's pretty much like Morrissey, The Smiths wrote some awesome music, but his voice just doesn't do it for me

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You see I have to disagree... Some people's voices are designed for their music... Or vise versa.

Both of them write songs that fit them perfectly

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

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"he's wrote some great songs but the only song i can listen to when he's singing is lay lady lay.anything else is dreadfull his voice is awful

Weird, isn't it? Great songs. Crap delivery."
Over ride the crap delivery with a great song some good guitar playing, or vocals, and that is bob dylan generally speaking he likes to roll off the words of his music into verse (If he can) not often but it works for me he is not where he is for nothing and no one to take his place either...

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By *ildbillkidMan
over a year ago

where the road goes on forever

https://youtu.be/PpRKstHl7Y0 "whats a sweetheart like you doing in a dump like this" dont think anyone else could sing it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Over rated depressing stoned nonsense that is lost on anyone under 60 IMO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, not that Nobel stuff.

I have never been a fan of his delivery but his songs are wonderful.

Is anyone else more a fan of covers of his songs than the originals? Joan Biez, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses ... just not Bob?"

I used to feel exactly the same way, but for some reason, when I hit 40, something clicked! Absolutely love Bob Dylan now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ah you can't say crap delivery, he's don't some fantastic tracks... Hurricane is my favourite but many are great because it's him doing it...

As for covers plenty of them over the years but Hendrix version of all along the watchtower is my personal favourite "

Totally agree, on all counts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless."

It sounds like you really know you're shit.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless."

Plenty of people in their 20s at Dylan gigs. It's not just for geriatrics you know. The man is a genius

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless.

It sounds like you really know you're shit.

No just being honest.

If Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger,Madonna, Elton John ect died at least people would be able to know a song.

Dylan is a stoned hippy even the tribute she forgot the words today. LMFAO

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope.."

Hmmm not so sure about that. I for one could name pretty much every song he's ever written.

"Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless."

Not really.

"If Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger,Madonna, Elton John ect died at least people would be able to know a song."

Again, not really. If nothing else, most people are familiar with Adele's version of Make You Feel My Love.

"Dylan is a stoned hippy even the tribute she forgot the words today. LMFAO

A common misguided mistake people often make is to associate Dylan with hippy culture. At no point was he ever remotely connected with it in any way, never mind actually being a hippy himself. In fact during the Summer of Love in 1967 when hippiedom was really starting to enter the culture, Dylan was holed up in Woodstock writing and recording music that was the total antithesis of "hippy music". If you knew anything about the man and his music then you'd know he's been many things. A stoned hippy not being one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Hmmm not so sure about that. I for one could name pretty much every song he's ever written.

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless.

Not really.

If Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger,Madonna, Elton John ect died at least people would be able to know a song.

Again, not really. If nothing else, most people are familiar with Adele's version of Make You Feel My Love.

Dylan is a stoned hippy even the tribute she forgot the words today. LMFAO

Absolutely Howard. Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Hmmm not so sure about that. I for one could name pretty much every song he's ever written.

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless.

Not really.

If Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger,Madonna, Elton John ect died at least people would be able to know a song.

Again, not really. If nothing else, most people are familiar with Adele's version of Make You Feel My Love.

Dylan is a stoned hippy even the tribute she forgot the words today. LMFAO

Absolutely Howard. Well said.

Hes a stoned hippy can you even name a song.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Over rated depressing stoned nonsense that is lost on anyone under 60 IMO"

What's your music taste/preference then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah but can anybody name a bob song under 50 - Nope..

Hmmm not so sure about that. I for one could name pretty much every song he's ever written.

Voted for by a bunch of stoned free love hippy from 60's thats all and pointless.

Not really.

If Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger,Madonna, Elton John ect died at least people would be able to know a song.

Again, not really. If nothing else, most people are familiar with Adele's version of Make You Feel My Love.

Dylan is a stoned hippy even the tribute she forgot the words today. LMFAO

Absolutely Howard. Well said.

Hes a stoned hippy can you even name a song.?"

Of course I can, and I've seen him live three times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Over rated depressing stoned nonsense that is lost on anyone under 60 IMO

What's your music taste/preference then? "

Personally i liked Prince

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Over rated depressing stoned nonsense that is lost on anyone under 60 IMO

What's your music taste/preference then?

Personally i liked Prince "

Redeemed yourself there.

But you do appear to prefer making broad sweeping generalisations that aren't substantiated in fact, just your own limited opinion -- why can't you just say you don't like Dylan rather than come across so ridiculously?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Over rated depressing stoned nonsense that is lost on anyone under 60 IMO

What's your music taste/preference then?

Personally i liked Prince

Redeemed yourself there.

bob just isn't relevent hasn't been for like 40 years its a shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Over rated depressing stoned nonsense that is lost on anyone under 60 IMO

What's your music taste/preference then?

Personally i liked Prince

Redeemed yourself there.

bob just isn't relevent hasn't been for like 40 years its a shame."

Relevant to *you*

You don't speak for me or others that like him. Come come now, grow up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why can't you just say you don't like Dylan rather than come across so ridiculously?

Because he wants to get himself noticed. There's no such thing as bad publicity after all.

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