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"Well it's a long way around Scotland. Probably the best route." That's what I thought too! | |||
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"Sick of those Russians me. They are like the plague spreading their physics and family values around like some of us give a shit! Damn Russians." Have you seen Russian ladies though? | |||
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"Posturing and distraction tactic...Putin up to no good elsewhere!! " I think it's a "Look at us! We're scary!" Tactic. | |||
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"Do Russian Warships have an ever diminishing collection of smaller ships inside ? ? ? Cal" LOL | |||
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"Well it's a long way around Scotland. Probably the best route." dick! Thats whats i had been thinking all day when i saw the news. Itll be interesting to see them getting through the tight straits of Gibraltar. | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol." Lol? | |||
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"Well it's a long way around Scotland. Probably the best route." My thought exactly.....saves coal on their 30odd year old one and only aircraft carrier on its first ever "mission". The channel is one of the busiest shipping routes in the world.....everyone uses it. Quiet news day? | |||
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"Well it's a long way around Scotland. Probably the best route. dick! Thats whats i had been thinking all day when i saw the news. Itll be interesting to see them getting through the tight straits of Gibraltar. " Lol, that's what I'm waiting for. :D :D I'm sure the Brits, Spanish, Italians and Turks will give them a loving welcome. :D | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol. Lol?" I was wondering why there was a LOL too? | |||
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"They were on their way to somewhere they were needed and we escorted them?? " Well, I'm not sure if we 'escorted' them... We quickly threw together something to show we saw what they did... | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol. Lol? I was wondering why there was a LOL too? " Why put lol? I hate lol at the best of times | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol. Lol? I was wondering why there was a LOL too? Why put lol? I hate lol at the best of times" Would you like me to remove it for you both and put you to bed with a bottle? Get over it you bunch of pussies. Xxx | |||
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"The straights of Gibraltar is also a main international shipping lane.....not exactly tight! Far bigger ships pass through every day. They are going from A to B by the shortest route....it's what people do. No news here.....move along please!" They're doing it to make everyone see how big and important they are! :D | |||
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"I had to laugh at one of the headlines in the pares today stating that the Russians were coming..." Never sounds sexy when Russians are cumming tho.... Dah dah dah! | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol. Lol? I was wondering why there was a LOL too? Why put lol? I hate lol at the best of times" And smilies | |||
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"Do Russian Warships have an ever diminishing collection of smaller ships inside ? ? ? Cal" Genius | |||
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"Where and what has the British naval fleet been sailing and doing around other channels? Just because its Russia crossing our channels we are jittery. Bet as we have Brexit we will be doing a lot of escorts in the future. We have to standby to escort them back to Russia again soon after Syria operation." Meh... I don't know why they need to be escorted... It's on radar anyway. | |||
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" Meh... I don't know why they need to be escorted... It's on radar anyway." Radar wont blow them out the water immediatly if they accidently launch a missile... | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol." Why "Lol."? You think a few rusting Russian tubs travelling south for the winter is funny? #confused | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. " ^ The voice of reason | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. " You're not wrong Clem. | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. " Too much propaganda- the US are just as guilty and have been just as bad. The news is selective and manipulative. Try remember that. | |||
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"Where and what has the British naval fleet been sailing and doing around other channels? Just because its Russia crossing our channels we are jittery. Bet as we have Brexit we will be doing a lot of escorts in the future. We have to standby to escort them back to Russia again soon after Syria operation." Lol (there's yer "lol", OP) - the British navy is deployed, stretched and substantially in dock being fixed. There's not an awful lot left atm. Hence being able to scramble a frigate and an I-destroyer... Leave them alone. "We" can't do anything else. | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. Too much propaganda- the US are just as guilty and have been just as bad. The news is selective and manipulative. Try remember that." You for real, bruv? | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. Too much propaganda- the US are just as guilty and have been just as bad. The news is selective and manipulative. Try remember that." Really? Well blow me down!!! | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. You're not wrong Clem. " I have to concur with Clemence | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. You're not wrong Clem. I have to concur with Clemence" I disagree! I think it's purely a "Look at me!" request. | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. You're not wrong Clem. I have to concur with Clemence I disagree! I think it's purely a "Look at me!" request." On the part of the pesky Russkis? | |||
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"WE don't need to be worried. The people of Aleppo need to be worried, because i suspect, that the Russians have some near out of date ordnance that needs dropping on hospitals and market places. You're not wrong Clem. I have to concur with Clemence I disagree! I think it's purely a "Look at me!" request. On the part of the pesky Russkis?" Yes! | |||
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"Where and what has the British naval fleet been sailing and doing around other channels? Just because its Russia crossing our channels we are jittery. Bet as we have Brexit we will be doing a lot of escorts in the future. We have to standby to escort them back to Russia again soon after Syria operation. Meh... I don't know why they need to be escorted... It's on radar anyway." To let them know we are watching them? Same as when their planes fly a bit too close. | |||
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"I reckon they are doing espionage, s to obtain political and military information, it was a old ship to, so probably have the enigma machine on it, but it was fun it passed through lol." Id love to live in your world shag! | |||
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" They are going from A to B by the shortest route....it's what people do. No news here.....move along please!" I am not sure they are taking the shortest route. From the North Cape to Gibraltar the shortest route seems to be between the Shetland Islands and the Faeroes, then west of Scotland and Ireland. Of course that would be out in the deep blue oggin, but I do think it may be a bit of a dick measuring contest, possibly a little diversion in response to Boris's comments in Parliament. That said their carrier did seem to be producing a lot of black smoke which might mean all is not well in the engine room. | |||
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" They are going from A to B by the shortest route....it's what people do. No news here.....move along please! I am not sure they are taking the shortest route. From the North Cape to Gibraltar the shortest route seems to be between the Shetland Islands and the Faeroes, then west of Scotland and Ireland. Of course that would be out in the deep blue oggin, but I do think it may be a bit of a dick measuring contest, possibly a little diversion in response to Boris's comments in Parliament. That said their carrier did seem to be producing a lot of black smoke which might mean all is not well in the engine room." I can tell you've spent many years studying this | |||
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"I reckon they are doing espionage, s to obtain political and military information, it was a old ship to, so probably have the enigma machine on it, but it was fun it passed through lol. Id love to live in your world shag! " Ty and it is a good one too | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol." This is old news, the plans were announced last week and no concerns | |||
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"i would be more afraid if it was the yanks sailing close by!,you know what they are like for misreading maps & blue on blue firefights!. " Nothing to worry about then... Lol they always turn up late anyways.. | |||
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"I watched the fleet pass from the white cliffs (I was walking the dog!) and a couple of things struck me. Firstly, the press reports of it being a knackered boat looked pretty accurate to me. I wasn't sure if the thing was under steam or they were electing a new pope with the amount of smoke pouring from it! And it was moving so slowly the cross channel ferries were having to dodge round it. One of the watchers (the cliffs were packed) said it was to save fuel. Personally to me it was to give everyone a good look and to send a message of power. It was just posturing and to be honest the thing looked so old and decrepit it failed." It was built in 85. No such thing as reliability back in them days.. Especially if it was built in Russia.. If they want to show their strength, modernise the fleet.. Bit like what we're doing.. The vtol aircraft that we have (dambuster squadron) is awesome piece of kit.. They will run off the Elizabeth class carrier when they are built n in operation (which in itself is a brute) | |||
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"To put into perspective, the Russian carrier has a displacement of 55,000 tonnes, pretty small to our 2 (being built) at 70,600 tonnes.." . So we haven't got any aircraft carriers then but because there's is old were somehow better than them?. Oh lord it really was a dick measuring contest | |||
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"I watched the fleet pass from the white cliffs (I was walking the dog!) and a couple of things struck me. Firstly, the press reports of it being a knackered boat looked pretty accurate to me. I wasn't sure if the thing was under steam or they were electing a new pope with the amount of smoke pouring from it! And it was moving so slowly the cross channel ferries were having to dodge round it. One of the watchers (the cliffs were packed) said it was to save fuel. Personally to me it was to give everyone a good look and to send a message of power. It was just posturing and to be honest the thing looked so old and decrepit it failed." I personally think the Russians are far more advanced than us, whether it be by sea, air or land and of course in space which we have no look in, | |||
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"They were on there way to syria. Nothing unusual or sinister about it." . It's assumed they are on their way to Syria. Nobody knows except a few choice Russians and a few captain's.... | |||
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"I watched the fleet pass from the white cliffs (I was walking the dog!) and a couple of things struck me. Firstly, the press reports of it being a knackered boat looked pretty accurate to me. I wasn't sure if the thing was under steam or they were electing a new pope with the amount of smoke pouring from it! And it was moving so slowly the cross channel ferries were having to dodge round it. One of the watchers (the cliffs were packed) said it was to save fuel. Personally to me it was to give everyone a good look and to send a message of power. It was just posturing and to be honest the thing looked so old and decrepit it failed. I personally think the Russians are far more advanced than us, whether it be by sea, air or land and of course in space which we have no look in, " That's because you're fearful | |||
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" I personally think the Russians are far more advanced than us, whether it be by sea, air or land and of course in space which we have no look in, " You seem to be ignoring our multi million pound space industry.... | |||
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"They were on there way to syria. Nothing unusual or sinister about it.. It's assumed they are on their way to Syria. Nobody knows except a few choice Russians and a few captain's...." Well, there have been clear indications of their intentions, plus, they are foing in that direction. They will be tracked too. I'm pretty sure they ste going to Syria... Lol | |||
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" They are going from A to B by the shortest route....it's what people do. No news here.....move along please! I am not sure they are taking the shortest route. From the North Cape to Gibraltar the shortest route seems to be between the Shetland Islands and the Faeroes, then west of Scotland and Ireland. Of course that would be out in the deep blue oggin, but I do think it may be a bit of a dick measuring contest, possibly a little diversion in response to Boris's comments in Parliament. That said their carrier did seem to be producing a lot of black smoke which might mean all is not well in the engine room. " The west coast of Scotland is the location of our own huge nuclear submarine base! My ex worked on nuclear subs during the height of the Cold War and from some of the stories he told it wasn't unusual to almost bump into Russian subs in our waters. That was just one ship on top of the water... | |||
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"Posturing and distraction tactic...Putin up to no good elsewhere!! I think it's a "Look at us! We're scary!" Tactic." its a main shipping lane quickest way to get where they are going this story has been sensationalised by the press as usual it happens all the time yet you don't hear about that. | |||
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" Pretty sure we would have wiped them out if they attacked us.. " Not sure what with, Daring class is the world's best air defence ship but is very limited in what else it can do. Duke class much better all rounder but even so, only one of each. True, their carrier's aircraft would be mini-subs the moment they lifted off but those Russian anti-ship missiles are no joke. Still, we'd find out whether our kit worked! | |||
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" The vtol aircraft that we have (dambuster squadron) is awesome piece of kit.. They will run off the Elizabeth class carrier when they are built n in operation (which in itself is a brute)" Very not awesome! Even if they perform as advertised they have short range and low weapons load. And they are not working as well as they should. Very worrying indeed given the investment in money into the programme and ships, the QE class, that won't fly anything else fixed wing as no catapults. | |||
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" I personally think the Russians are far more advanced than us, whether it be by sea, air or land and of course in space which we have no look in, " Air: our Typhoons more than a match for anything they've got. But zero maritime patrol aircraft when most of our trade comes by sea. Sea: we've got some really good stuff. Astute subs are cracking for example. Land: our Apaches are the dog's bollocks and Challengers best there are. Space: we have a big space programme but it's not really military. Over all the biggest issue is quantity, we don't have enough of anything really. | |||
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"Our smaller but tech advanced ships have nothing to fear from those hulking great rust buckets. Russians posing? ha ha" Nothing at all! The supersonic anti-ship missiles on the other hand.... ! | |||
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" That was just one ship on top of the water... " We may have had a sub shadowing too. But even if not, the frigate there is an anti submarine one, it'll have known if there were Russian subs with the carrier group. | |||
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"Perhaps many will correct me on this, but is not escorting a foreign warship in or near our territorial waters a form of etiquette? To prevent any misunderstandings?" Yes you right and it is not just etiquette but also enshrined in the member states regulations to do so to all members crossing their respective channels. | |||
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"..Just to throw a spanner in the works, this could be a tactical masterstroke played by Putin. Whilst everyone's attention is focused on some old aircraft carrier chugging down the channel he is sneakily lining up his brand new mahuusive fleet of mobile nuclear floating battle stations all down our east coastline? We all turn around from our little chuckle over the white cliffs of Dover and it's FREEEZE MOTHER FUUUCKER!!!! (in a Russian accent obviously) I think in warfare terms it's called selling a dummy... ... just saying " Have you ever written books? | |||
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"..Just to throw a spanner in the works, this could be a tactical masterstroke played by Putin. Whilst everyone's attention is focused on some old aircraft carrier chugging down the channel he is sneakily lining up his brand new mahuusive fleet of mobile nuclear floating battle stations all down our east coastline? We all turn around from our little chuckle over the white cliffs of Dover and it's FREEEZE MOTHER FUUUCKER!!!! (in a Russian accent obviously) I think in warfare terms it's called selling a dummy... ... just saying Have you ever written books? " ... just haven't got the time, anyway I'm off to defend the coastal area off Skegness, them Ruskies ain't fooling me!! | |||
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"As an ex matelot I'm more concerned about the Chinese Navy having it's first sortie into the Med since the 15th century. The Russian Navy is pretty much obsolete. They sailed through the Channel cos the Atlantic is a bit Harry Roughers and they might take some big goffers inboard. " The Admiral Kuzentsov is a POS, dogged by reliability and crewing issues. The Russians are sending it to the Mediterranean to avoid conflict. If it launches air sorties from her then AC will not have to contend with Turkish SAM and interceptors should they come overland. That being given our fleet has been reduced, we have no viable AC Carriers without falling in with the French, additionally our latest (and greatest) ships have been dogged with tech issues. The Army is struggling to recruit to 82k and the RAF are.... well the RAF. | |||
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"The straights of Gibraltar is also a main international shipping lane.....not exactly tight! Far bigger ships pass through every day. They are going from A to B by the shortest route....it's what people do. No news here.....move along please!" What struck me most was how much filthy black smoke they managed to put out. -If my vehicle was making black smoke it'd be banned from the highway. Perhaps the international community should have a word with the Russian Navy about that. | |||
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"The straights of Gibraltar is also a main international shipping lane.....not exactly tight! Far bigger ships pass through every day. They are going from A to B by the shortest route....it's what people do. No news here.....move along please! What struck me most was how much filthy black smoke they managed to put out. -If my vehicle was making black smoke it'd be banned from the highway. Perhaps the international community should have a word with the Russian Navy about that. " Environmental Protection Law limits black smoke by Marine Vessels - Call out the local EHT and let's see them ticket the Admiral Kuzentsov | |||
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"Russian warships sailed through the English channel today! What does everyone think? Lol." Does not bother us in the slightest, if they were up to anything they would be far more cover and it would hit us before the newspapers and TV could think about reporting it | |||
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