FabSwingers.com forum: Fat kids

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's cruel that's all I'm saying.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"It's cruel that's all I'm saying. "

What's cruel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should be on the treadmill.

Googlebox proves that lol

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?"

No, but not teaching them healthy eating habits while they're young is surely part of being a responsible parent?

Mr ddc

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

No, but not teaching them healthy eating habits while they're young is surely part of being a responsible parent?

Mr ddc"

Too many negatives in there, but you get the drift.

(I was worrying more about which emoji to use than reading it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the lifestyle they lead,when i was a kid i was out playing football or building dams or climbing trees,the video game culture has stopped all that,most kids(not all)have a tv and video games in their bedroom, hence bigger kids

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

No, but not teaching them healthy eating habits while they're young is surely part of being a responsible parent?

Mr ddc"

Totally agree with this I teach mine that healthy living is vital in there life yes the odd junk meal is ok but healthy eat habits is the way forward

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's cruel that's all I'm saying. "

I feel sorry for them. We all got teased about something in school, no-one was immune. I think it builds a lil character learning to stand up for yourself. But fat kids came in for way more than the rest of us. And I'm sure it's even worse now than when I was at school. With internet trolling, and the trend to have unrealistic body ideals. And unfortunately, fat kids often grow into fat adults. And aside from the health issues, the damaged self-esteem is terrible. I wish parents would take greater responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its the lifestyle they lead,when i was a kid i was out playing football or building dams or climbing trees,the video game culture has stopped all that,most kids(not all)have a tv and video games in their bedroom, hence bigger kids"

Agree with this aswell most kids know a days sit in rooms on there console or phone and don't exercise I'm pretty harsh as my kids as I limit the time they spend on them and spend time doing things together mountain biking football walking the dogs don't see it much around here tho

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?"

I feel cruel even writing about it but my daughter was in a new group for swimming this morning cos she's gone up a stage, the kids looked like they ranged from 7-8 and there was one girl who was huge, huge belly, cankles, kept crashing into my kid as well, could see how self conscious she was when she got out the pool to walk down to the deep end, she wouldn't jump in like the other kids had to like lower herself in. Then I had the mother next to me watching, she was huge as well eating what looked like a peters sausage roll or pasty, packet of steak McCoys (my favourite crisps!) ate 2 mini milky ways and drinking out of a litre bottle of lucozade, at 9 in the morning. Class is only 30 minutes you don't have to eat like that, especially today when you assume everyone has a roast dinner for lunch. It's just cruel I think, kids ain't born massive and by feeding them shit it's setting them up for a world of cruelty from other kids.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

I had video games/consoles when I was a kid and spent a lot of time playing on them but like you I also spent a lot of time out playing football with friends, it's about getting the balance right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a difficult one. I generally agree it's on the parents, but by the age of 11 I was saving my pocket money and hoarding food so I could binge on it in secret - that had nothing to do with my parents and what they fed me. I was never really overweight till I was an adult but I could easily have been if I hadn't grown so fast, and it wouldn't have been their fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They should be on the treadmill.

Googlebox proves that lol"

wow, yes. They need to watch less telly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me modern technology is to blame, when I was a kid we didn't have mobile phones or the internet we used to go out and play footie or tracking in the park. Computer games were the commodore64 which took half hour to load then crashed. Technology is good but it has a lot of questions to answer for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are just pure lazy, you are what you eat.

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

I agree fag, there's no need to be obese full stop. it's just lazy.

I'm no super model but i watch what I eat because I wanna be here for my kids in 20 Years time, not stuck on an o2 machine because I'm chronically obese.

There's enough disease in this world that you have no control over getting, I'm not about to drain the nhs because I cannot stop shovelling crap into my mouth and that fucks up my heart etc

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This kid was in a swimming lesson so the parent is good for letting her child learn a life saving skill but based on what the mother looked like and what she was eating, it's just a case of feeding her child the same old crap that she eats. She couldn't have been older than 8 either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a difficult one. I generally agree it's on the parents, but by the age of 11 I was saving my pocket money and hoarding food so I could binge on it in secret - that had nothing to do with my parents and what they fed me. I was never really overweight till I was an adult but I could easily have been if I hadn't grown so fast, and it wouldn't have been their fault. "

This is exactly what I did. Once you get to that age, they can't control what you eat!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are just pure lazy, you are what you eat."

I don't remember eating a fucking legend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But yeah, it's awful.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I agree fag, there's no need to be obese full stop. it's just lazy.

I'm no super model but i watch what I eat because I wanna be here for my kids in 20 Years time, not stuck on an o2 machine because I'm chronically obese.

There's enough disease in this world that you have no control over getting, I'm not about to drain the nhs because I cannot stop shovelling crap into my mouth and that fucks up my heart etc "

I can't exactly be on a soap box with my username! I don't actually smoke fags by the way, I vape! Should have called myself pipe and slippers, my vape looks like a mini bong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This kid was in a swimming lesson so the parent is good for letting her child learn a life saving skill but based on what the mother looked like and what she was eating, it's just a case of feeding her child the same old crap that she eats. She couldn't have been older than 8 either. "

She'd survive longer in a Titanic scenario however.

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I do love a bit of generalisation

Explain this to me then, I have two sons who both ate home cooked meals, who only had take away meals for special occasions etc, the youngest is 6'2" and eats like a horse yet slim and the eldest hardly eats yes he is much "beefier" than the youngest. It's all about your body and how it reacts to what you put in it, unfortunately these days most parents don't cook and kids think diner comes out the microwave or a man delivers it to the door, there are lots of reasons people are/will be large

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok - putting my head on the line here.

I work in nutrition and dieting, there is a definite trend in over weight children to overweight adults.

It is indeed to do with lifestyle (unless of course there are underlying medical issues)

Most clients I see that have weight issues, have parents in the same situation.

Also having studied sociology, our lifestyles have changed very much from our predecessors.

Nowadays it is more common that both parents work due to the high cost of living, so therefore, healthy balanced nutritional meals are hard to do - gone are the days where a mother stays at home and cooks a healthy meal at night.

We, as a generation depend on fast and convenient, and quite frankly anything that is that is full of shit.

Also, technology has driven the younger generation to not feel the need to move, have to walk to friends houses and get out as they have everything that they need in the comfort of their rooms.

I am a mother of 4 and I work, yes I struggle at times to provide my children with home cooked meals but I do my damn best to ensure I make as many as possible and they are as physically active as family time constraints allow x

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Is she a good swimmer?

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

"They are just pure lazy, you are what you eat.

I don't remember eating a fucking legend.

Ha Ha that's because you haven't eaten me yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are just pure lazy, you are what you eat.

I don't remember eating a fucking legend.

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That is a good one lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will also point out that as an adult, it's not sensible to point out obesity to children, it can very much flip and have very negative consequences long term.

It's about educating the parents, but the parents want to have to ask for and accept the advice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've also got two children, same father, same everything, same start in life; both completely different one is slim, the other one is chunky both eat and exercise the exact same amount and yet, they're not the same. Funny that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My diet was awful growing up crisps and chocolate galore etc but I had football 3 times a week (not including before school and break time etc) cross country, athletics club, cricket covering every other evening of the week my parent never made me do any of these though.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Just reading this while I eat a share size bag of crisps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's learned behaviour.

So in some cases it's not that they are lazy & cruel the parents need help & reeducation about making good food choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure the mum has enough shit from the health authority over her kids weight seeing as our kids are weighed in School and monitored without everyone else having a go.

Perhaps she and her kid were at the pool to get some exercise and get healthy and this was their first tentative step.

Being a parent is hard enough as it is. But unless folk know someone's personal circumstances they need to stop judging from the outside looking in.

I'm fat, does this mean if I take my (slim) kids to a pool I'm going to have someone looking at me being all judgey?

Sheesh. Live and let live.

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

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"I will also point out that as an adult, it's not sensible to point out obesity to children, it can very much flip and have very negative consequences long term.

It's about educating the parents, but the parents want to have to ask for and accept the advice.

I agree with this very much, children shouldn't be made to "diet" as they still have a fair bit of growing to do, steering them in the right direction is much better than giving them a food complex which leads to years of yoyo dieting and food anxiety

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With kids I think the main solution is to ensure they are active. As a previous poster said, they can eat junk food just as long as they are.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Nowadays it is more common that both parents work due to the high cost of living, so therefore, healthy balanced nutritional meals are hard to do "

They needn't be.

We have always cooked proper meals for ours, heck I even cooked proper meals when I lived alone and didn't finish work until gone 9pm. A slow-cooker, or a pressure-cooker means decent food is only ever ½ an hour away. (quicker than ordering take-out, and far cheaper too)

But it's the constant snacking culture that is more of a problem imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually hate this thread. I'm fat and always worry whenever I'm out with my chunkier child on my own that people assume she is chunky because of me, I never have this worry when about and about with my slimmer child. How fucked up is that. And you're all proving my fears to be completely valid.

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By *ureTemptationWoman
over a year ago

Off the grid

I know a kid who regularly steals food to eat. He also has a disability which means his muscles haven't formed very well and exercise is painful for him.

My kids look really healthy and slim (solid muscle tbh) but their diets are extremely limited because of sensory problems. One of them ate a tiny bit of apple over the summer after an intense week of me making nutrition really fun and exciting (vitamins giving you different superpowers etc). Their sibling wouldn't even touch it.

It's really not as simple as "just give them healthy food" for every kid.

If we could work on anything I'd rather society was less judgmental, and then maybe the larger kids wouldn't get bullied?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?"

Not force fed them but they do have control over what their child eats. There's no excuses for child obesity. The health implications are awful and no child should go through that. It's just not healthy!

I would happily agree with my children's school teachers to stand outside the chip shop (that's situated across the road from the school gates), and prevent school kids from going in. Or chip shops etc ought to be banned from selling their food to school kids during school hours.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

When I was at all you weren't allowed to leave the grounds at lunchtime

(Apart from the few who had home lunches)

I see kids walking in to school in the morning, having been to Tesco (other supermarkets are available) stuffing their faces with pies and cakes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just reading this while I eat a share size bag of crisps."

50g, used to be 37g.

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

"I actually hate this thread. I'm fat and always worry whenever I'm out with my chunkier child on my own that people assume she is chunky because of me, I never have this worry when about and about with my slimmer child. How fucked up is that. And you're all proving my fears to be completely valid."

I'm fat too yet I eat healthy and I walk miles a day but the weight doesn't shift much, it's easy for people to take the high road and say we are all lazy, well I say fuck off to them all because we aren't all the same, I was the fattest out of all my brothers and sisters, sometimes it's our own genes we are trying to fight against, we can only do what we can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm sure the mum has enough shit from the health authority over her kids weight seeing as our kids are weighed in School and monitored without everyone else having a go.

Perhaps she and her kid were at the pool to get some exercise and get healthy and this was their first tentative step.

Being a parent is hard enough as it is. But unless folk know someone's personal circumstances they need to stop judging from the outside looking in.

I'm fat, does this mean if I take my (slim) kids to a pool I'm going to have someone looking at me being all judgey?

Sheesh. Live and let live.

Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is exactly what I did. Once you get to that age, they can't control what you eat!"

But they can control their child receiving enough exercise. Restrict their time on games consols, take them out walking or playing football etc. Don't give them pocket money. Buy them little gifts that you know they would enjoy. All different kind of ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Problem is parents give in too easily from a young age at mealtimes. My parents just used to say there was nothing else. Now I love my veg!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

When I was at all you weren't allowed to leave the grounds at lunchtime

(Apart from the few who had home lunches)

I see kids walking in to school in the morning, having been to Tesco (other supermarkets are available) stuffing their faces with pies and cakes

Exactly! So do I. My son tried this as well until I cottoned on. My whole family suffers from obesity. My nan died from complications resulting from her obesity. No way will I allow my kids to end up suffering health implications like my family does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was picked on at school for being the fat kid, which looking back at photos I wasn't anywhere near as big as many kids I see now. It made me determined that my kids wouldn't have to go through that so they do as many physical hobbies as I can afford to do with them.

I can't understand those who got bullied but have let their kids end up in exactly the same situation they were in 20 years earlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know a kid who regularly steals food to eat. He also has a disability which means his muscles haven't formed very well and exercise is painful for him.

It's really not as simple as "just give them healthy food" for every kid.

If we could work on anything I'd rather society was less judgmental, and then maybe the larger kids wouldn't get bullied?"

This is also a factor, my eldest two are autistic so textures and mixing food can sometimes be a battle field. However I think we tend to adapt around these things the more we grow with them.

I agree that society should be a little more forgiving, I myself am a comfort eater so regardless of my job will always struggle with my weight.

I think that we just need to be a little more thoughtful of things.

As someone above said - it's also to do with the snacking between meals.

When my little one (7) nags she's hungry (all the time) I always make sure she has plenty to drink first, a lot of the time our bodies can confuse hunger with thirst x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I am sorry for laughing at this (before anyone kicks off, I am not laughing at the obese child or mother) I laughed at how detailed the menu was...how did you get time to watch your child swimming...had visions of you staring mouth agape in shock...lol

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?"

More often than not it is. You should see some of the stuff I see in packed lunches. When did it become ok to fill a bag with processed crap, chocolate bars and crisps for childs lunch. It costs far more and is lazy.

Some things should be treats.

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

When I was a kid I was playing out every day. No idea what the fuck went wrong because I've always been a bit porky as an adult

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Exactly.....treats are treats, our school take the bad food and give the child a school packed lunch if theirs Is full of crap..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Totally agree.

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over a year ago

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Exactly.....treats are treats, our school take the bad food and give the child a school packed lunch if theirs Is full of crap.. "

If you saw what I do you would be shocked. A school lunch costs £2.50 on average. A bag full of crap is more than that!

It's lazy and expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?"

Underlying circumstances exist in many cases and are often ignored by those who judge from a visual aspect. As I said, I agree with the quoted post and is my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

See again that's another fine line.

My son was a problem eater from the age of 5/6. Whilst I don't condone giving kids fizzy drinks all my son would eat on a daily basis until he finished year 6 was ~ a chocolate crepe, 2 x breadsticks / crisps & an orange juice. The token grapes / apple came back untouched.

I had to speak to the school in the end & ask the LC's to leave him alone over his packed lunch,was a difficult time.

Btw he's now a 5'11 athletic beanpole of a young man.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

What's the answer in people's opinion?

Is there enough information available about how to prepare quick, simple nutritious meals? Is advertising to blame? Can anyone really claim to not understand the basic principles of eating less and moving more?

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Exactly.....treats are treats, our school take the bad food and give the child a school packed lunch if theirs Is full of crap..

If you saw what I do you would be shocked. A school lunch costs £2.50 on average. A bag full of crap is more than that!

It's lazy and expensive.

I've repeated myself...sorry.

But it really gets to me, not that you could tell

The addictives and preservatives in food like these have an impact too, regardless of what people may say.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

See again that's another fine line.

I had to speak to the school in the end & ask the LC's to leave him alone over his packed lunch,was a difficult time.

Btw he's now a 5'11 athletic beanpole of a young man."

But you tried; you put it in there for him to see at least. Many don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is exactly what I did. Once you get to that age, they can't control what you eat!

Basing this purely on my personal experience of me, as a child - that's over simplistic bollocks. I have wonderful parents who did a great job bringing me up and encouraging me to be healthy. I didn't have games consoles, I'm too old. I played out. I did sport. But I was still fucked up about food for reasons which are not their fault. Would you blame the parents of an anorexic for their child's eating disorder?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I recognise the green packaging on peters products, plus we're up high overlooking the pool and the mother was to my left, fucking bumping of b.o as well.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

See again that's another fine line.

I had to speak to the school in the end & ask the LC's to leave him alone over his packed lunch,was a difficult time.

Btw he's now a 5'11 athletic beanpole of a young man."

Our son existed on chocolate spread sandwiches and the odd apple for years, he would sometimes eat chips and beans. I used to pay for school dinners fondly imagining that he was at least getting o e meal a day until he told me he liked one dinner lady because she let him leave them. We tried starving him in to eating but on seeing his skeletal chest one day I just decided to give him what he would eat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 of my kid's is vegan and 1 vegetarian and they get flack for "being awkward" my other son would eat junk all day if he could but plays sports 7 day's a week and is a bottomless pit! We are all different in our make up but general rule is if you don't look after yourself it will show in some shape or form. My kid's changing their diet's as a Heath related choice changed the whole families way of eating... putting my hand up...my kid's showed me a healthier path. Don't get me wrong I had the balance pretty ok, not excellent but ok as I caved to lazy days of convenience cooking but they put me back on track to a healthier more convenient lifestyle. We had homemade Italian soup that I defrosted yesterday. I cook in bulk for my lazy day options now

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?"

The mind boggles..

Fois grois anyone!!

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

"What's the answer in people's opinion?

There's plenty of information.

You can't avoid it unless you're a hermit

What a lot of it comes down to is caring about your family's health and well being (massive overgeneralisations in place)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And you realise who the OP of this thread is and it all makes sense

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I recognise the green packaging on peters products, plus we're up high overlooking the pool and the mother was to my left, fucking bumping of b.o as well. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

See again that's another fine line.

I had to speak to the school in the end & ask the LC's to leave him alone over his packed lunch,was a difficult time.

Btw he's now a 5'11 athletic beanpole of a young man.

Exactly the same here. In senior school I was thinking healthy choices but no,he kept the money & bought sausage rolls &chocolate from the Tesco Metro.

I found by backing off he eventually made slightly better choices. For example he will now eat and apple / raw peppers.

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By *ureTemptationWoman
over a year ago

Off the grid

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

See again that's another fine line.

I had to speak to the school in the end & ask the LC's to leave him alone over his packed lunch,was a difficult time.

Btw he's now a 5'11 athletic beanpole of a young man.

But you tried; you put it in there for him to see at least. Many don't. "

But let me guess, as a parent I bet you were judged really harshly for what your son ate.

And your son was judged too. I have food issues and I was constantly criticised and mocked where I used to work because of what I ate. Housemates used to judge me when I was a student.

It's not remotely helpful. It didn't make me change what I ate. If anything it made me eat worse foods and avoid eating in public- it was just incredibly stressful for me.

Who has the right to judge what others eat? Really? Do we get to judge you now on personal stuff that has nothing to do with us?

I swear people get judged more for unusual food habits than they do for smoking. So I don't think it's about health. And I don't see slim people who don't exercise shamed for that ever. People with more visible difficulties are just an easy target.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I recognise the green packaging on peters products, plus we're up high overlooking the pool and the mother was to my left, fucking bumping of b.o as well.

I can't stop laughing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I recognise the green packaging on peters products, plus we're up high overlooking the pool and the mother was to my left, fucking bumping of b.o as well.

I can't stop laughing

Oh thank God...was feeling evil...the devil is in the detail lol brilliant op

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I recognise the green packaging on peters products, plus we're up high overlooking the pool and the mother was to my left, fucking bumping of b.o as well.

I can't stop laughing

Oh thank God...was feeling evil...the devil is in the detail lol brilliant op

The scene has been painted so well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Do you not have rules on what can be brought in then? I'm sure my daughters school does.

She is mainly eating school meals anyway but when she takes a packed lunch we always make sure there is something healthy in there. Never any crisps and anything sweet is small.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

I recognise the green packaging on peters products, plus we're up high overlooking the pool and the mother was to my left, fucking bumping of b.o as well.

I can't stop laughing

Oh thank God...was feeling evil...the devil is in the detail lol brilliant op

The scene has been painted so well

Can almost smell the food as I read it but now suspect that could have been the mother

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Do you not have rules on what can be brought in then? I'm sure my daughters school does.

She is mainly eating school meals anyway but when she takes a packed lunch we always make sure there is something healthy in there. Never any crisps and anything sweet is small."

Wheels are in motion

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"I swear people get judged more for unusual food habits than they do for smoking. So I don't think it's about health."

That's not true.

You should have seen the hullabaloo when school found the ½ bottle of gin and 40 Benson & Hedges I'd put in our 5yr-old's lunchbox

But joking apart, parents *know* that wouldn't be right...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don't mean to be unkind and I'm aware there are illness' and disabilities that can affect weight, think in this instance though it was just a case of the (toffee)apple not falling far from the tree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4 kids here.. all eat the same food... one is seriously overweight due to disability.... its not always down to parenting..

My daughter is about 7 stone over weight and despite all best efforts that seems as small as I can get her down too.

However she put it on mostly due to school giving her extra portions daily... plus double puddings. I had to actually ask them not to x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with this. This thread is so unfortunate and shows how ignorance outweighs sensibility. So sad

How is it ignorant to think that extremely obese children are often products of poor parenting?

Some things should be treats.

Do you not have rules on what can be brought in then? I'm sure my daughters school does.

She is mainly eating school meals anyway but when she takes a packed lunch we always make sure there is something healthy in there. Never any crisps and anything sweet is small.

Wheels are in motion

Good to hear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did all you judgey mothers breastfeed? Are you as judgemental over a bottle of formula as you are over a sausage roll?

I'm working on raising mine to be balanced and bright kids, who know how to seek help without putting others down.

Hopefully they'll be better equipped to deal with life's shitty stuff and nasty people and not turn to overeating or worse.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Did all you judgey mothers breastfeed? Are you as judgemental over a bottle of formula as you are over a sausage roll?

I'm working on raising mine to be balanced and bright kids, who know how to seek help without putting others down.

Hopefully they'll be better equipped to deal with life's shitty stuff and nasty people and not turn to overeating or worse."

I did both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Over the years I've really tried not to care about being judged how I parent, I'm fully aware I'm not perfect but sometimes certain subjects really boil my piss! (Excuse the expression).

It starts from the moment you decide to bottle feed & doesnt appear to end......

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"Over the years I've really tried not to care about being judged how I parent, I'm fully aware I'm not perfect but sometimes certain subjects really boil my piss! (Excuse the expression).

It starts from the moment you decide to bottle feed & doesnt appear to end......

Yeah, when you start on the wine the day after giving birth some people really don't approve

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

A bottle of formula, a Gregg's sausage roll , pierced ears and sat in a pink buggy!

God I haven't had this much fun since I left the baby forums with the BF v FF bun fights

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"A bottle of formula, a Gregg's sausage roll , pierced ears and sat in a pink buggy!

God I haven't had this much fun since I left the baby forums with the BF v FF bun fights

Oh you are so wrong.

Breast, baby led weaning and a baby carrier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got three kids their all fussy eaters but mainly eat the same things, both my boys are stick insects and my little girl who is only seven would make two of my boys. But it breaks my heart when she comes in from school and some low life calls her fat and ugly, I then need to sit with her to make sure she eats cause she thinks that if she stops eating she'll be thin and wont look ugly anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did all you judgey mothers breastfeed? Are you as judgemental over a bottle of formula as you are over a sausage roll?

I'm working on raising mine to be balanced and bright kids, who know how to seek help without putting others down.

Hopefully they'll be better equipped to deal with life's shitty stuff and nasty people and not turn to overeating or worse."

As mothers to a certain degree, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't! Three of mine were tube fed my breast milk as they were in the SCU and I bottle fed them after that. When I look back at how much has changed from having my first to now...we are all continually learning and evolving. What work's for one may not work for the next.

I grew up in tough times but my mother always put a good dinner on the table and insisted we eat together, she instilled that in me and I have carried it on. It is as much about the time as the nutrition I think.

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

"A bottle of formula, a Gregg's sausage roll , pierced ears and sat in a pink buggy!

God I haven't had this much fun since I left the baby forums with the BF v FF bun fights

Oh you are so wrong.

Breast, baby led weaning and a baby carrier. "

Ha Ha I was taking the Piss.... I Bf, baby led and slinged my two.....they never had a jar of baby food ever.....eldest had some.formula because she had bowel problems when she was born.

Whilst they have no choice in what they eat I made the best choice for them.

Plus I was lazy and flopping a tit out was easier that makingg a bottle lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I'm fat my daughters are not.

Everything was cooked from scratch and they were not allowed processed food or junk.

My issues around food is psychological, I didn't bring my that to my daughters. Mum was fat, dad was slim, they were happy...three, happy, contented, slim girls.

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Kinda how it's turned out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bottle of formula, a Gregg's sausage roll , pierced ears and sat in a pink buggy!

God I haven't had this much fun since I left the baby forums with the BF v FF bun fights

Oh you are so wrong.

Breast, baby led weaning and a baby carrier.

Ha Ha I was taking the Piss.... I Bf, baby led and slinged my two.....they never had a jar of baby food ever.....eldest had some.formula because she had bowel problems when she was born.

Whilst they have no choice in what they eat I made the best choice for them.

Plus I was lazy and flopping a tit out was easier that makingg a bottle lol "

Ahhhhh I thought I wrote this for a second! Haha

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Only if you want to _iew it that way.

You could see it as a commentary on what will undoubtedly be the biggest killer of our children's generation.

Personally, I thought my tongue-in-cheek comment about booze & fags quite insightful, rather than spiteful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are kids only fat because their parents force feed them?

That is disgusting.

The mother stuffing her face at that time of morning... not your description.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

I don't think it was.

I think it's an emotive subject for many though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And you realise who the OP of this thread is and it all makes sense

What do you mean?

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

I think that, as is usual on this site, the tongue in cheek side to most of the replies has been lost....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

I think its an important subject to discuss. Of course some comments may not be worded the best way, but it's important.

My brother had diabetes before he turned 28. I wish these things were talked about more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

There's been some good points raised.

However, when the opening post starts with a generalisation it can go one of two ways....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

I think its an important subject to discuss. Of course some comments may not be worded the best way, but it's important.

My brother had diabetes before he turned 28. I wish these things were talked about more."

Maybe not so good when it's folk reading who have maybe lost family members due to things like being obese ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ive not read the whole thread but this is something that really really gets to me

Im paranoid and depressed for various reasons, i suffer anxiety at times and other peoples opinions matter and i am constantly thinking i myself am being judged because i am a VERY large lady (size 26)

I wont eat in public because i am ashamed of my size and its a horrible feeling. Ive pretty much been trying to shift weight my entire adult life.

I am a very proud parent to a 6 year old and am in fear if she were to become over weight. I hand on heart believe we eat healthily and in moderation with everything. She is active, plays football, goes to swimming and dance lessons.

Its my worst fear if she were to become over weight and suffer in the way i have.

Potential judgement from others cripples me..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

I think its an important subject to discuss. Of course some comments may not be worded the best way, but it's important.

My brother had diabetes before he turned 28. I wish these things were talked about more.

Maybe not so good when it's folk reading who have maybe lost family members due to things like being obese ?"

I've lost family members to obesity. My mother has diabetes and lost her leg two years ago because of it. I'm not offended by the thread. I wish we would talk more about it as a society. Perhaps worded better than some of the posts here, but still.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ive not read the whole thread but this is something that really really gets to me

I wont eat in public because i am ashamed of my size and its a horrible feeling. Ive pretty much been trying to shift weight my entire adult life.

Its my worst fear if she were to become over weight and suffer in the way i have.

Potential judgement from others cripples me.. "

don't allow it to bother you, worlds full to the brim with idiots, worst form of judgemental people there is, it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice

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By *ureTemptationWoman
over a year ago

Off the grid

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My daugthers are 14/13 respectively and I've noticed since I left the family last year both my girls have put on wieght. Atm I'm not too worried as both are vegetarian and also going thro pubity.

I feed they as well as I can and mostly fresh homemade foods.

I'm over wieght but I have drastically changed my diet and portion sizes now I live on my own. I'm not losing wieght tho and my doc has put this down to my fibro.

I do think it's sad when children are over wieght. I was slim as a child and put on my wieght with my second pregnancy.

It's down to us as parents to ensure that our children are both happy and healthy. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok."

Pretty sad if you ask for more opinion

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok.

Pretty sad if you ask for more opinion "

So neither you nor PureTemptation see the parallels with smoking or drinking to excess?

That is pretty sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok.

Pretty sad if you ask for more opinion

So neither you nor PureTemptation see the parallels with smoking or drinking to excess?

That is pretty sad

No I think it's pretty sad that over weight kids are height of topic on here

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Let's all take a moment to remember these are the words of strangers, most of whom we are never going to meet in person.

Pinch of salt and move along.

Nothing here is literal

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok.

Pretty sad if you ask for more opinion

So neither you nor PureTemptation see the parallels with smoking or drinking to excess?

That is pretty sad

No I think it's pretty sad that over weight kids are height of topic on here "

I thought we were discussing parenting.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok.

Pretty sad if you ask for more opinion

So neither you nor PureTemptation see the parallels with smoking or drinking to excess?

That is pretty sad

No I think it's pretty sad that over weight kids are height of topic on here

I thought we were discussing parenting.

I though we were talking about food

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

No I think it's pretty sad that over weight kids are height of topic on here

I thought we were discussing parenting.

I though we were talking about food

As always we _iew everything on Fab through our own personal filters

Some people see 'mean', where I see inspirational stories of mothers determined to ensure their children have a better life

{shrugs}

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Sounds like it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Pretty much.

But apparently it's "tongue in cheek" so that's ok.

Pretty sad if you ask for more opinion

So neither you nor PureTemptation see the parallels with smoking or drinking to excess?

That is pretty sad

I was going to mention the smoking, as children are more likely to smoke if their parents/parent does.

It is sad to see children not being given the best start in life, but we don't all do everything perfectly do we.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"So basically it was a lets take the piss out a fat mum and her chubby kid for laughs kinda thread?

Sounds like it.

Of course it was, dressed up in a 'I say what I see, I'm that kind of person' type way.

Discuss childhood obesity by all means but do so without judgement. Not one of is is perfect, even the OP yet there is a definite air of 'my shit don't stink' on here these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me modern technology is to blame, when I was a kid we didn't have mobile phones or the internet we used to go out and play footie or tracking in the park. Computer games were the commodore64 which took half hour to load then crashed. Technology is good but it has a lot of questions to answer for."

Its all down to choice of food and eating habits.

Ive got stringbean genes, im hyper as fuck and my weight varied between 61-74kg's from the age of sixteen lol.. and im 6'4..

I see kids in prams eating fried chicken, i see multipacks of snickers for a quid, sugar everywhere...

My last Gf loved bbq sauce,maggie cubes and cooking would be chips or fucking toast...

When i was 3, we had a boiled egg,piece of rye bread and like tea or something in kindergarden.. lol didnt get any sweeties in such abundance especialy..

Eating habits and lifestyle

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"What's the answer in people's opinion?

There's plenty of information.

You can't avoid it unless you're a hermit

What a lot of it comes down to is caring about your family's health and well being (massive overgeneralisations in place)

Ok so why are people ignoring it? It's very easy and dare I say it ironically lazy thinking to suggest it's laziness.

The reason I and my family don't eat fast food is because none of us like the taste I'm pretty sure if we did we'd eat a lot more of it. I'm lucky my mum cooked, I learned just by being around when she did it. She also knew how to feed a big family decent food on a small budget therefore so do I but what if you don't have that knowledge?

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Well this is fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are several topics being discussed and all topics are vast and will not be resolved here today but as mentioned above by several, they are good topics to be discussed openly. I think it was an interesting thread topic but more interesting because of the different _iewpoints and stories of how these issues have had a direct influence on their lives. Well done posters and thank you for an interesting perspective...all of them.

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

in the centre

"And you realise who the OP of this thread is and it all makes sense

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

in the centre

I have 2 kids , the older one doesn't really have to watch what he eats and is naturally slim-ish , the younger one is like me and only has to look at a biscuit/ cream cake and puts on half a stone , OP whilst amusing a lot of the time , on the odd occasion you really need to engage your brain before hitting post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I think it's pretty sad that over weight kids are height of topic on here

I thought we were discussing parenting.

I though we were talking about food

As always we _iew everything on Fab through our own personal filters

Some people see 'mean', where I see inspirational stories of mothers determined to ensure their children have a better life

{shrugs}"

The opening post was hardly inspirational

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

diet and lack of exercise.

Then they get to the point where their to big and not wanting to do activities that would help them burn off all the bad stuff. Because its to hard they get to tiered.

Its a vicious circle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know someone who has been "big" since birth and all through life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seen some woman giver her kid in pushchair a can of relentless and a snickers! He can't have been a day over 2yo. I think that's a form of abuse but wtf do I know?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I LOVE fat kids!

I couldn't eat a whole one though.......

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

Deep fried mars bar,very healthy

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

"Seen some woman giver her kid in pushchair a can of relentless and a snickers! He can't have been a day over 2yo. I think that's a form of abuse but wtf do I know?"

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

The opening post was hardly inspirational

But that's what I mean about filters. Let's face it, one can't live through 3 years of "Kiss, fuck, avoid" without developing an ability to filter stuff out.

The opening post is only ever a window to another discussion, and seldom fixes the tone of the whole thread in stone.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

They've finally worked out we're all different you know and it's not all about calories

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"They are just pure lazy, you are what you eat."

This isn't true.

My son eats a balanced diet, walks 0.7 miles to school & 0.7 miles back, does school pe twice a week, private swimming lesson once a week, rugby twice a week, plus playtime at school, running round at cubs & with the dog.

He is still overweight due to a medical condition. I am fighting to keep his weight at current level as he grows taller. I have seen so many doctors, paediatricians & dietitians it is untrue.

His older brother is just about scraping a bmi of 18. Surely if it was bad diet they would both be overweight or underweight?

Since TH was diagnosed with cancer I have been even more conscious of what we eat.

Some of you need to think before you comment as your comments can be hurtful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The opening post was hardly inspirational

But that's what I mean about filters. Let's face it, one can't live through 3 years of "Kiss, fuck, avoid" without developing an ability to filter stuff out.

The opening post is only ever a window to another discussion, and seldom fixes the tone of the whole thread in stone. "

I beg to differ as it can depend on who the OP is and/or how they interact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know, I absolutely hate eating in public, and my husband always tells me I'm being ridiculous, that no one is paying attention to what I'm eating or would judge me for it. This thread is evidence that I'm right, and they clearly *do* watch what fat people are eating and make judgements about them based on it.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

The opening post was hardly inspirational

But that's what I mean about filters. Let's face it, one can't live through 3 years of "Kiss, fuck, avoid" without developing an ability to filter stuff out.

The opening post is only ever a window to another discussion, and seldom fixes the tone of the whole thread in stone.

I beg to differ as it can depend on who the OP is and/or how they interact."

It can, but I have seen too many identical OPs go differing ways to think there is ever an inevitability about them.

And I still feel one's ability to filter out some remarks, or concentrate on others, sometimes says much about oneself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You know, I absolutely hate eating in public, and my husband always tells me I'm being ridiculous, that no one is paying attention to what I'm eating or would judge me for it. This thread is evidence that I'm right, and they clearly *do* watch what fat people are eating and make judgements about them based on it.

I have a friend who is of a similar mindset

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are just pure lazy, you are what you eat.

This isn't true.

He is still overweight due to a medical condition. I am fighting to keep his weight at current level as he grows taller. I have seen so many doctors, paediatricians & dietitians it is untrue.

His older brother is just about scraping a bmi of 18. Surely if it was bad diet they would both be overweight or underweight?

Since TH was diagnosed with cancer I have been even more conscious of what we eat.

Some of you need to think before you comment as your comments can be hurtful. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The opening post was hardly inspirational

But that's what I mean about filters. Let's face it, one can't live through 3 years of "Kiss, fuck, avoid" without developing an ability to filter stuff out.

The opening post is only ever a window to another discussion, and seldom fixes the tone of the whole thread in stone.

I beg to differ as it can depend on who the OP is and/or how they interact.

It can, but I have seen too many identical OPs go differing ways to think there is ever an inevitability about them.

And I still feel one's ability to filter out some remarks, or concentrate on others, sometimes says much about oneself."

Oh I filter out a lot of the remarks I see on here,I'd be permanently on the step I didn't.

However, I do believe it also sometimes says much about oneself if you stick up for what you believe in too.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

However, I do believe it also sometimes says much about oneself if you stick up for what you believe in too.

Always.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a friend who is of a similar mindset

It's not uncommon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen some woman giver her kid in pushchair a can of relentless and a snickers! He can't have been a day over 2yo. I think that's a form of abuse but wtf do I know?"

Agreed. May as well be cigarettes.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

It's a tricky one. I was podgy as a kid but didn't become actually properly fat until I was a teenager and started cooking for myself. A lot of it is lifestyle related as well; as a kid I was an avid reader and listener to music whilst my brother ate loads more than me but spent his whole childhood running around. He was then and still is the tall thin one. So identical nurture but very different natures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's ok to slag people off about some things but not about others when they are personally offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm sure the mum has enough shit from the health authority over her kids weight seeing as our kids are weighed in School and monitored without everyone else having a go.

Perhaps she and her kid were at the pool to get some exercise and get healthy and this was their first tentative step.

Being a parent is hard enough as it is. But unless folk know someone's personal circumstances they need to stop judging from the outside looking in.

I'm fat, does this mean if I take my (slim) kids to a pool I'm going to have someone looking at me being all judgey?

Sheesh. Live and let live.

well said im fat and ive got four slim grown up kids who all ate well balanced food and who are very active

its hard enough growing up without the need to judge when you dont know there circumstances

i was very slim until thryoids problems in my mid 30s and though i'm fat i don't sit and eat juke

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Kids deserve the very best role models in their parents in all aspects of life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's ok to slag people off about some things but not about others when they are personally offended.

Well that logic could be applied to many a forum thread.!

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"It's ok to slag people off about some things but not about others when they are personally offended.

Yet that was the one bit where I thought we'd ALL be safe. Surely no-one would admit to being personally responsible for child cruelty, hence no need for any white-knighting: finally a subject where we could all agree.

Or apparently not.

I wonder if the time is ripe yet to post the link to the newsstory about the parents of the obese child arrested for child cruelty?...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kids deserve the very best role models in their parents in all aspects of life.

I do tend to agree but having seen some of the comments on here and ones by the original OP I do wonder why they let some people breed. Poor kids have no hope.

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By *lue Eyed SwingMan
over a year ago

W London

Bit simplistic...

Billy Bunter and his ilk existed long before digital media were all the rage and having a TV in your bedroom doesn't necessarily make you a slob.

A day at school is now considerably more active than in my day - when we sat like battery hens at desks being bored shitless and choking on chalk dust. Schools have better sports facilities, local authorities provide numerous avenues for getting active and young people have never had a greater menu of activities to take part in.

The myth of the obese kid spending his or her life in front of the screen munching pizza is worthy of Donald Trump.

In my day we spent our time in our bedrooms wanking ourselves silly - and it never did me no harm!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Letting your kids become obese is child abuse and should be treated as such (just like undernourishment would be neglect).

But 'fat' isn't that clear. Our youngest was a very fat baby - rolls of it. Then he started walking and quickly got to a healthy shape. Last year we received a letter informing us he was fat and inviting him to a fat camp. In fact there isn't a pinch of fat on him. He plays rugby almost every day, goes to the gym, runs cross country and is built like a brick shithouse. I burned that letter and have never mentioned it.

So I'm all for challenging parents that allow their kids to get fat but how it's done needs caution (and better assessment than a BMI table).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The myth of the obese kid spending his or her life in front of the screen munching pizza is worthy of Donald Trump.

This is not a myth. It's a reality for many kids. I hear it regularly from parents during the off-season when they're not playing sport.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"I do tend to agree but having seen some of the comments on here and ones by the original OP I do wonder why they let some people breed. Poor kids have no hope. "

Come now, don't be shy. Why stop with the OP? Why not list the names of ALL the people on here who you think the state should have sterilised before they could affect the gene-pool?

One can't beat a bit of Nazi Eugenics on a Sunday evening

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

Ahh. Well. I was a fat kid. I'm a fat adult. I had very healthy diet as a kid and ran about in the woods until homework started to take over. No sweets, no crisps. Still I started dieting at the age of 12 and I was pretty much on a constant diet from then on but 20 years of beating myself up about my weight got to much and I gave up trying to lose weight

I used to eat healthy as an adult too but now I'm unemployed it's eat what I can afford. Don't understand this idea that junk food is more expensive. I simply can't afford to eat healthy now.

Don't have kids but I'm the only fat person in my immediate family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ahh. Well. I was a fat kid. I'm a fat adult. I had very healthy diet as a kid and ran about in the woods until homework started to take over. No sweets, no crisps. Still I started dieting at the age of 12 and I was pretty much on a constant diet from then on but 20 years of beating myself up about my weight got to much and I gave up trying to lose weight

I used to eat healthy as an adult too but now I'm unemployed it's eat what I can afford. Don't understand this idea that junk food is more expensive. I simply can't afford to eat healthy now.

Don't have kids but I'm the only fat person in my immediate family."

vegetables cost fuck all at the market - or frozen.

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By *ilbearniMan
over a year ago

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"I do love a bit of generalisation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eat them .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's cruel that's all I'm saying. "

Your comment is nasty, who are you know why thier over weight?

My son is 5 and weighs 6st. He was born with a rear condition. That means he's requires drug that makes it hard for him to maintain a normal weight.

He is a special case study for kids with the same condition, so they can live past the age of 2!

Yes he's overwight and thats a problem in its self. However much rather have a FAT child, taking medication in order to live and his organ to grow along with having an amazing childhood with loving family. However judgmental adults should be learn to think before speak. Because your the reason he crys when adults point and make whispering comments when I take him out. Or the reason he thinks he's ugly, asking everyday do I look skinny yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to eat healthy as an adult too but now I'm unemployed it's eat what I can afford. Don't understand this idea that junk food is more expensive. I simply can't afford to eat healthy now.

Don't have kids but I'm the only fat person in my immediate family.

vegetables cost fuck all at the market - or frozen."

They cost fuck all in the supermarket too....especially if you buy once it's been reduced. I pack out my bolognaise sauce with grated veg such as carrots,courgettes and mushrooms so the kids don't even know they are there. Means it's cheaper as you don't have to use much meat. Homemade soup is another excellent way to use cheap veg and make it interesting and doesn't take ages or great cooking skills. Much cheaper than ready meals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those saying healthy eating is expensive.. You know Aldi is a thing, right? Fabulous 5 or whatever it's called. Veg for pocket change.

Avoid the aisles full of sugar. Stick to the outside of supermarkers. Eat fresh produce, drink water.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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I used to eat healthy as an adult too but now I'm unemployed it's eat what I can afford. Don't understand this idea that junk food is more expensive. I simply can't afford to eat healthy now.

Don't have kids but I'm the only fat person in my immediate family.

vegetables cost fuck all at the market - or frozen.

If you buy veg that is in season it works out cheaper.

I don't get how any one can say it's cheaper to eat junk?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you buy veg that is in season it works out cheaper.

I don't get how any one can say it's cheaper to eat junk?

Because

1. they're too lazy to figure out how to use fresh veg

2. they're too lazy to walk around picking them and carrying them back to the car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do tend to agree but having seen some of the comments on here and ones by the original OP I do wonder why they let some people breed. Poor kids have no hope.

Come now, don't be shy. Why stop with the OP? Why not list the names of ALL the people on here who you think the state should have sterilised before they could affect the gene-pool?

One can't beat a bit of Nazi Eugenics on a Sunday evening

I would happily to be honest reading some of the comments. I agree in some cases parents over feeding children is neglect and should be treated in such a way, however she does not know the family not the history of the family either so why is there a need to call the mother out.

As for the further comment of the mother smelling its pathetic and childish and in no way anything to do with the child being obese it's a nasty dig at another human.

So sorry if you don't agree with me but I don't like it when others feel the need to shame in such a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're astonished every time we go somewhere and the toddlers in prams get a bag of something carby to munch on whenever they throw a tantrum. Why would you do that to your kids?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"however she does not know the family not the history of the family either so why is there a need to call the mother out.

She ate enough food to sustain several rural African villages through winter in a half hour long swimming class. It's not exactly a thyroid issue?

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over a year ago

"however she does not know the family not the history of the family either so why is there a need to call the mother out.

She ate enough food to sustain several rural African villages through winter in a half hour long swimming class. It's not exactly a thyroid issue?"

But who the fuck sits and pays that much attention to what someone is eating, someone who has nothing to do with them, who they don't even know, so they can reel off a list at a later date to put them down on the internet? That is really rude and also fucking weird.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my 7yr old was at a school party type thing and asked for squash as they only had fizzy pop.

He said they had to go and actually get him some from the canteen as they wasnt serving any

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a parent so I can't judge!

But I'd like to think that if I was I would teach them healthy eating - along with all the other lessons that are a parents responsibility!

I'm fat and didn't come from a fat household.

I could blame genetics ... being half Caribbean doesn't help!

But then neither does the excessive amounts of food I put in my mouth!

Or the wine I guzzle!

I'm active and work on my feet and run around like a maniac most days - but nothing can defeat the evil sugar addiction!

Quitting smoking was easier!

I think it's the types of food that are available now.

Sugar and chemical laden rubbish that is all advertised as childrens food

I think anyone with half a brain knows how to eat / shop for healthy foods - it's applying the information, having the willpower and the time to stay away from the addictive sugar laden "convenience" crap - and not having it in the house for your children to eat.

Setting a good example.

Sorry for the ramble

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my 7yr old was at a school party type thing and asked for squash as they only had fizzy pop.

He said they had to go and actually get him some from the canteen as they wasnt serving any

The sugar thing is a real problem. Especially all the stuff hidden in pasta sauces and 'healthy' fruit drinks etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"however she does not know the family not the history of the family either so why is there a need to call the mother out.

She ate enough food to sustain several rural African villages through winter in a half hour long swimming class. It's not exactly a thyroid issue?

I couldn't agree more ruby also shows a lack in parenting skills not watching her own child to be honest but who are we to judge on that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"however she does not know the family not the history of the family either so why is there a need to call the mother out.

She ate enough food to sustain several rural African villages through winter in a half hour long swimming class. It's not exactly a thyroid issue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But who the fuck sits and pays that much attention to what someone is eating, someone who has nothing to do with them, who they don't even know, so they can reel off a list at a later date to put them down on the internet? That is really rude and also fucking weird."

Completely detracting from the point.

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Kids like that should get help at school and there should be nutrition guidance given to the parent

Unfortunately a lot of the time it's just laziness by the parents and access to cheap unhealthy foods

There are exceptions but in most cases that's the problem

Hope the wee lassy sticks with the swimming and once fending for herself grows up well and healthy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do tend to agree but having seen some of the comments on here and ones by the original OP I do wonder why they let some people breed. Poor kids have no hope.

Come now, don't be shy. Why stop with the OP? Why not list the names of ALL the people on here who you think the state should have sterilised before they could affect the gene-pool?

One can't beat a bit of Nazi Eugenics on a Sunday evening

As for the further comment of the mother smelling its pathetic and childish and in no way anything to do with the child being obese it's a nasty dig at another human.

So sorry if you don't agree with me but I don't like it when others feel the need to shame in such a way. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Completely detracting from the point.

No, I think it's entirely relevant. What on earth is the motivation behind being so fucking judgemental of what another person is doing that you commit the list of what they're eating to memory and list it back to us so we can all gawp and snigger at the horrible fat person.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do tend to agree but having seen some of the comments on here and ones by the original OP I do wonder why they let some people breed. Poor kids have no hope.

Come now, don't be shy. Why stop with the OP? Why not list the names of ALL the people on here who you think the state should have sterilised before they could affect the gene-pool?

One can't beat a bit of Nazi Eugenics on a Sunday evening

As for the further comment of the mother smelling its pathetic and childish and in no way anything to do with the child being obese it's a nasty dig at another human.

So sorry if you don't agree with me but I don't like it when others feel the need to shame in such a way. "

I wrote my comment based purely on observation, the child was in a group of 8 children and she was the biggest there, the teacher had to let her swim her widths alone when they normally do two sets of 4 kids together, she was disrupting the class as my kid and the other 6 kids were by the edge of the pool longer cos he had to wait for her to finish doing her thing as she was bumping into the other kids that were dwarfed by her and would have been hurt should they receive a kick in the head off one of her kicks, that happens in the class now and again when a kid is kicking their legs they'll accidently catch one of the other kids. So yeah when it affects something that I'm paying money for then I'm going to take notice. As for the mother, she was huge and she was humming of b.o, it's very hot in the pool stands and she was downing a litre bottle of lucozade and eating a pasty and chocolate and crisps at 9am. My comments were based on observation.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"So sorry if you don't agree with me but I don't like it when others feel the need to shame in such a way.

But unless the person is on here and reading this, how can it be shaming?

Surely it's just another "a funny thing happened to me today, I saw a right twonk do [insert something stupid] thread?"

I know I sometimes lack societal graces, but I just don't get it.

Saying the OP and others shouldn't be allowed to 'breed' because you feel offended on behalf of someone you'll never know on the other hand does seem a little weird to me.

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