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"Id never change my morals for a shag" I'm not sure it's even possible, but sometimes I wish I didn't have them... | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " What about the ones that tell you straight ? | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? What about the ones that tell you straight ? " and they're not? Not a problem for me, why would it be? | |||
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"Sometimes I wonder along these lines. Maybe I should have sex that isn't as safe as I prefer because lots of guys don't like condoms during oral. Maybe I should have MFF threesomes where the guy is a bit of a misogynist ass because at least I'd be getting more action. Maybe I should meet people who are new to BDSM because there might just be a rough diamond. Maybe my partner and I should meet the guys who say they're straight on their profile but insist they're bisexual - but then I remember how hard it was for some of my friends to come out. Lots of 'maybe I should...' but inevitably I remember that I could still go on as many dates as I wanted while keeping my standards up." Hmm. I wish I could. | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? What about the ones that tell you straight ? and they're not? Not a problem for me, why would it be? " I meant tell you straight away they're married | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? What about the ones that tell you straight ? and they're not? Not a problem for me, why would it be? I meant tell you straight away they're married " They're cheating ergo they're liars, ergo i don't fancy them. Didn't I say that? | |||
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"I wouldn't change my moral per se... I'd just shift the goalposts a little  "Ah the joys of a relativist morality.  | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? What about the ones that tell you straight ? and they're not? Not a problem for me, why would it be? I meant tell you straight away they're married They're cheating ergo they're liars, ergo i don't fancy them. Didn't I say that? " From the comment "turns out to be married " I was wondering if it's the fact he's married at all or the fact he has tried to lie so you don't find out that's all
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " On a similar note, I actually had the Jehovah's Witnesses round this morning. They wanted me to go to Bible Study with them. Hang on, this is the 'holier-than-thou' thread isn't it? 
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"As an aside, and just to widen the debate, it seems that some morals are flexible around cheaters, depending on their sex. " Not just sex, location too. I've seen very few men in clubs asked for their decree nisi... | |||
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"Id never change my morals for a shag I'm not sure it's even possible, but sometimes I wish I didn't have them... " You have to stay true to yourself always. Because you are the one who has your best interests at heart. | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " “The best comedy on earth shows up when an immoral person talks about the morals!” | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? What about the ones that tell you straight ? and they're not? Not a problem for me, why would it be? I meant tell you straight away they're married They're cheating ergo they're liars, ergo i don't fancy them. Didn't I say that? From the comment "turns out to be married " I was wondering if it's the fact he's married at all or the fact he has tried to lie so you don't find out that's all
"Got it, quite right, I wasn't clear. If I knew they were married in the first place, I wouldn't fancy them in the first place, therefore I wouldn't want to shag them and get all pissy when my feelings wouldn't let me. If that makes sense! | |||
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"Don't change your morals just for a shag. I'm quite sure you are able to take your pick from a wide supply of admirers without having to break your ethical code
As an aside, and just to widen the debate, it seems that some morals are flexible around cheaters, depending on their sex. From what I've heard (and can only assume to be true) many couples or females that are vocally anti-marrieds in public are more relaxed about it and prepared to turn a blind eye when the cheater is a bisexual lady (for clarity I'm not implicating the OP in this by the way!) "I wonder why that is,is it not as bad when a woman cheats?! | |||
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"Don't change your morals just for a shag. I'm quite sure you are able to take your pick from a wide supply of admirers without having to break your ethical code
As an aside, and just to widen the debate, it seems that some morals are flexible around cheaters, depending on their sex. From what I've heard (and can only assume to be true) many couples or females that are vocally anti-marrieds in public are more relaxed about it and prepared to turn a blind eye when the cheater is a bisexual lady (for clarity I'm not implicating the OP in this by the way!)
I wonder why that is,is it not as bad when a woman cheats?!"Because, when a woman cheats it's because she has a terrible husband who made her do it. Thought everyone knew that. | |||
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"Don't change your morals just for a shag. I'm quite sure you are able to take your pick from a wide supply of admirers without having to break your ethical code
As an aside, and just to widen the debate, it seems that some morals are flexible around cheaters, depending on their sex. From what I've heard (and can only assume to be true) many couples or females that are vocally anti-marrieds in public are more relaxed about it and prepared to turn a blind eye when the cheater is a bisexual lady (for clarity I'm not implicating the OP in this by the way!)
I wonder why that is,is it not as bad when a woman cheats?!
Because, when a woman cheats it's because she has a terrible husband who made her do it. Thought everyone knew that."Silly me | |||
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"Just wondering Lady T. Have you got as far as a social with a guy who claims to be single but tells you during coffee or whatever that he isn't? Happened to me today quite far into the convo. I asked him why he hadn't mentioned it earlier and he said he thought I might not have met him if I knew. " How do you feel about it? | |||
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"Just wondering Lady T. Have you got as far as a social with a guy who claims to be single but tells you during coffee or whatever that he isn't? Happened to me today quite far into the convo. I asked him why he hadn't mentioned it earlier and he said he thought I might not have met him if I knew. " I would personally walk away. | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " Just agreeing with you complerely on lying thing. As soon as I know a guy is lying that kills anything I ever felt for them, lust, friendship, whatever.... I don't judge them, I don't feel it's my business, but I immediately lose any attraction or interest in them. | |||
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"Guys n lies ,unfortunately all to common xx "Chicks n fibs too? Ok, ok I admit it doesn't rhyme nowhere near as well but it was the best I could do! | |||
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"Just wondering Lady T. Have you got as far as a social with a guy who claims to be single but tells you during coffee or whatever that he isn't? Happened to me today quite far into the convo. I asked him why he hadn't mentioned it earlier and he said he thought I might not have met him if I knew. " I've had that before, a couple of times. I just get up and leave there and then - I don't even finish my drink. I wouldn't continue a conversation with them on here if I knew they were married, so I don't do it in person either. | |||
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"Just wondering Lady T. Have you got as far as a social with a guy who claims to be single but tells you during coffee or whatever that he isn't? Happened to me today quite far into the convo. I asked him why he hadn't mentioned it earlier and he said he thought I might not have met him if I knew. " Now that doesn't make sense considering the first bit of your profile
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " That's why you should be fucking me
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"Just wondering Lady T. Have you got as far as a social with a guy who claims to be single but tells you during coffee or whatever that he isn't? Happened to me today quite far into the convo. I asked him why he hadn't mentioned it earlier and he said he thought I might not have met him if I knew. How do you feel about it? " Tbh a person's marital status is none of my business. I was more annoyed when he pretty much said he thought I must be thick because of the job I do | |||
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"Don't change your morals just for a shag. I'm quite sure you are able to take your pick from a wide supply of admirers without having to break your ethical code
As an aside, and just to widen the debate, it seems that some morals are flexible around cheaters, depending on their sex. From what I've heard (and can only assume to be true) many couples or females that are vocally anti-marrieds in public are more relaxed about it and prepared to turn a blind eye when the cheater is a bisexual lady (for clarity I'm not implicating the OP in this by the way!) "Many couples? I think you mean 'some couples' as it makes no difference to us if it's a male or female cheater, they both get the same answer from us...No thanks, invest your time in your partner instead of your own selfishness. | |||
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" I was in Bath at the time and im not in Wales now, nor have I ever been. Not sure what game you're trying to play saying that. " Shame. The North is particularly good for a visit. | |||
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"I dont got any morals, as it is nsa "It's not nsa when they're dragging a big partner shaped string behind them. | |||
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"Don't change your morals just for a shag. I'm quite sure you are able to take your pick from a wide supply of admirers without having to break your ethical code
As an aside, and just to widen the debate, it seems that some morals are flexible around cheaters, depending on their sex. From what I've heard (and can only assume to be true) many couples or females that are vocally anti-marrieds in public are more relaxed about it and prepared to turn a blind eye when the cheater is a bisexual lady (for clarity I'm not implicating the OP in this by the way!)
Many couples? I think you mean 'some couples' as it makes no difference to us if it's a male or female cheater, they both get the same answer from us...No thanks, invest your time in your partner instead of your own selfishness."Correct. Should have said some, and I'm happy to clarify to that effect. I'm unable to quantify a number based on the conversations I've had but it doesn't sound like it's a rare occurrence. | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " I woodount chang mine at all even if it ment I get mor luck from it. cos if I did that then I woodount be my uneek self. And im not doing sumthing just cos its populour demand. If this makes sense ? | |||
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"your limits, your inner conflict, your deal i have inner peace, no morals though, who wants to be judged by someone else's standards?? i do what i want, impeccably "Someone's feeling sassy today x | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? " No idea but I really like that little bit of bum crack peeking over the top of your small panties  | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? No idea but I really like that little bit of bum crack peeking over the top of your small panties "Yeah, that'd do it
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"your limits, your inner conflict, your deal i have inner peace, no morals though, who wants to be judged by someone else's standards?? i do what i want, impeccably
Someone's feeling sassy today x"just finished two writing assignments, im feeling pleased with my in text citations how are you gorgeous? xx | |||
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"Quite partial to married men "Well plenty here apparently Joe just set up a single woman profile and have at it | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? No idea but I really like that little bit of bum crack peeking over the top of your small panties " ...they are ridiculously small panties for the size of arse  | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? No idea but I really like that little bit of bum crack peeking over the top of your small panties
...they are ridiculously small panties for the size of arse "With respect.. I disagree.. they are the perfect size  | |||
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"Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " Yes. But I just can't for some reason.  | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? " I think life experiences change them for you. | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? I think life experiences change them for you." This is important - the ability to review and alter one's 'morals' in the light of new evidence and experience. | |||
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"Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? Yes. But I just can't for some reason. "Have you tried mentally listing England footballers? I find that generally delays things
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"Quite partial to married men
Well plenty here apparently Joe just set up a single woman profile and have at it "Quite happy being a man, thanks. Don;t need to be a woman to pull. Like that straight guy who PM'd offering to fuck me. I was like, nah, not really my thing, ta. Talked him round into doing some dreadfully perverted things for me tho'. Who knew he could find such erotic possibilities in his own arsehole? Hetero-FLEXIBLE | |||
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"Quite partial to men
FTFY "Sleep easy in your bed on Saturday, young man | |||
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"Quite partial to married men
Well plenty here apparently Joe just set up a single woman profile and have at it
Quite happy being a man, thanks.
Don;t need to be a woman to pull. Like that straight guy who PM'd offering to fuck me. I was like, nah, not really my thing, ta.
Talked him round into doing some dreadfully perverted things for me tho'. Who knew he could find such erotic possibilities in his own arsehole?
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"Quite partial to married men
Well plenty here apparently Joe just set up a single woman profile and have at it
Quite happy being a man, thanks.
Don;t need to be a woman to pull. Like that straight guy who PM'd offering to fuck me. I was like, nah, not really my thing, ta.
Talked him round into doing some dreadfully perverted things for me tho'. Who knew he could find such erotic possibilities in his own arsehole?
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Ha ha yeah he's probably still convinced he's totally straight too "I have no idea and it's none of my business. Made him moan like a bitch tho' | |||
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Sleep easy in your bed on Saturday, young man "I shall actually. | |||
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" Way I see it is this If you're hear for fun and nothing serious it's not really your problem or interest what situation the other person is in. It's only supposed to be fun. They are the one that needs to make good with their commitments not you. If you're here in the hope of potentially meeting someone for real world long term relationships then a closer look at their character may be in order. Better to figure out what you're looking for and see how that squares with your values Some people might think that swinging and being on a site like this is immoral. We all make lifestyle choices and everyone is different. There isn't really a wrong answer, just different opinions. Live and let love Hope you figure it out "For me it's simpler than I've obviously made out. It's nothing to do with judging others, it's all to do with automatically stopping fancying a guy once I know he doesn't have integrity. | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? I think life experiences change them for you." Yes, or make then stronger. | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? I think life experiences change them for you. This is important - the ability to review and alter one's 'morals' in the light of new evidence and experience. " Surely you don't alter your morals to get a fuck on a swingers site though? I would have thought it wouldn't be that easy? | |||
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" Way I see it is this If you're hear for fun and nothing serious it's not really your problem or interest what situation the other person is in. It's only supposed to be fun. They are the one that needs to make good with their commitments not you. If you're here in the hope of potentially meeting someone for real world long term relationships then a closer look at their character may be in order. Better to figure out what you're looking for and see how that squares with your values Some people might think that swinging and being on a site like this is immoral. We all make lifestyle choices and everyone is different. There isn't really a wrong answer, just different opinions. Live and let love Hope you figure it out
For me it's simpler than I've obviously made out. It's nothing to do with judging others, it's all to do with automatically stopping fancying a guy once I know he doesn't have integrity. "Fair enough you obviously have a mental connection to it. X | |||
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"your limits, your inner conflict, your deal i have inner peace, no morals though, who wants to be judged by someone else's standards?? i do what i want, impeccably
Someone's feeling sassy today x just finished two writing assignments, im feeling pleased with my in text citations how are you gorgeous? xx"I wish I didn't find the thought of in text citations so sexy... I'd totally change that about myself. | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? I think life experiences change them for you. This is important - the ability to review and alter one's 'morals' in the light of new evidence and experience. Surely you don't alter your morals to get a fuck on a swingers site though? I would have thought it wouldn't be that easy? " I wouldn't have thought it would be easy. I'm either comfortable with something, or I'm not and wanting sex with someone wouldn't change that. | |||
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"your limits, your inner conflict, your deal i have inner peace, no morals though, who wants to be judged by someone else's standards?? i do what i want, impeccably
Someone's feeling sassy today x just finished two writing assignments, im feeling pleased with my in text citations how are you gorgeous? xx
I wish I didn't find the thought of in text citations so sexy...
I'd totally change that about myself. "i think its the brackets bit like the stocks | |||
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 ; I know its only a "moment" we may share; but making the most of that "moment' is key... so; their personal circumstances? hate to say this but we are all adults on a swinging site.... and there may be a 100 reason why they are here; I will not judge, my game-ender is BB... nothing more or less
But OP my game-ender really is a game-ender, so understand completely (though your game ender is different) how once you find it out; it can be both disappointing and like "why didn't they just say".....
I guess it comes down to our respective selection processes; mine have been off in the past... I'm getting better at it though | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " How about an attached one playing with permission! | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? No idea but I really like that little bit of bum crack peeking over the top of your small panties
...they are ridiculously small panties for the size of arse "I' wear ridiculously large undies ....that'll be why my cock look small... | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " I'm free. | |||
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" Way I see it is this If you're hear for fun and nothing serious it's not really your problem or interest what situation the other person is in. It's only supposed to be fun. They are the one that needs to make good with their commitments not you. If you're here in the hope of potentially meeting someone for real world long term relationships then a closer look at their character may be in order. Better to figure out what you're looking for and see how that squares with your values Some people might think that swinging and being on a site like this is immoral. We all make lifestyle choices and everyone is different. There isn't really a wrong answer, just different opinions. Live and let love Hope you figure it out
For me it's simpler than I've obviously made out. It's nothing to do with judging others, it's all to do with automatically stopping fancying a guy once I know he doesn't have integrity. "How far does that extend? Would you, for example meet a man who knowingly met married women? Or would that have compromised their integrity? | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? I think life experiences change them for you. This is important - the ability to review and alter one's 'morals' in the light of new evidence and experience. " I'd extend that a little bit: it's more about experience and ideas building over time. Growing and learning. It's feels almost sociopathic to have the firm unbending belief, not just that you're right, but that you're so right that you have nothing more to learn, no possibility of additional life experience and no more ideas to consider. | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? I'm free." I read that with John Inmans voice in my head! | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " I am exactly the same!!!! It helps if you're forwarned, but apparently it only needs to be mentioned once the interest had been piqued.... if asked .... sometimes it's declared ... NEXT!!! | |||
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"How does one change one's morals? I think life experiences change them for you. This is important - the ability to review and alter one's 'morals' in the light of new evidence and experience. I'd extend that a little bit: it's more about experience and ideas building over time. Growing and learning. It's feels almost sociopathic to have the firm unbending belief, not just that you're right, but that you're so right that you have nothing more to learn, no possibility of additional life experience and no more ideas to consider. " | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? What about the ones that tell you straight ? and they're not? Not a problem for me, why would it be? I meant tell you straight away they're married They're cheating ergo they're liars, ergo i don't fancy them. Didn't I say that? " I always find this confusing, as we are on a swinging site. Many couple into said lifestyle have no problem what so ever with the male half seeing other women, yet I constantly see the above. When a married woman says she is allowed or has partners consent, it's all fine.. But guy says same, nope cheating misogynistic fuck. Would think couples or people on a site such as this, would understand that not everyone is cheating, some embrace meeting others. If you think a guy or ladie is cheating, simply ask to talk to their partner, you will know pretty fast if they are lieing. sadly fab is turning into a site more about calling others out for lies, than actually swinging. Straight - ohh you are in denial and must be "Fab Straight". Male - ohh cheating then... Sorry got a tad ranty. Hope you find what makes you happy, you are stunning btw x | |||
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"Every guy I want to fuck turns out to be married. Ffs. The thing is, when I know a guy is lying, I immediately stop fancying him. It's bloody irritating me now. Anyone else wish they could change their game enders? " Just for a shag?!! No!
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"Guys n lies ,unfortunately all to common xx "very true a cock has no morals | |||
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" I always find this confusing, as we are on a swinging site. Many couple into said lifestyle have no problem what so ever with the male half seeing other women, yet I constantly see the above. When a married woman says she is allowed or has partners consent, it's all fine.. But guy says same, nope cheating misogynistic fuck. Would think couples or people on a site such as this, would understand that not everyone is cheating, some embrace meeting others. If you think a guy or ladie is cheating, simply ask to talk to their partner, you will know pretty fast if they are lieing. sadly fab is turning into a site more about calling others out for lies, than actually swinging. Straight - ohh you are in denial and must be "Fab Straight". Male - ohh cheating then... Sorry got a tad ranty. Hope you find what makes you happy, you are stunning btw x" Nobody is saying 'all men who are married are cheating'. People are saying that they don't want to sleep with men who are cheating. Just like nobody things all straight men on this site are bisexual. But they do take the piss out of men who say they're straight but sleep with other men when it's convenient for you. Get ranty by all means - but read what people are saying first, don't just assume what they're saying. | |||
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" How far does that extend? Would you, for example meet a man who knowingly met married women? Or would that have compromised their integrity?" Personally, if someone tells me they have no problem with meeting people who are cheating on their partners, then I won't meet them. It's dishonest, and I don't want that kind of person in my life. My partners and I work on a system of honesty when it comes to having multiple partners. It's very hard for us to 'cheat' on each other (since we are all open about everything) but one thing that we all consider 'cheating' in terms of our relationships is sleeping with people when their partners don't know they're not monogamous. That kind of behaviour will get me dumped by my partners. | |||
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