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"There'll be varying and strong opinions. It's not for us but we appreciate that for some fabbers, there's no option but to entertain at home with kids asleep. We certainly won't slate anyone for their circumstances." My thoughts exactly | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm " | |||
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"Even though we have a lock on our bedroom door (I also have a couples profile) then no........ I have heard a story where an 8 year old boy heard noise and thought his mum was being attacked and called the police They turned up to find a very red faced mum and two guys - they had been having a 3sum........... " Poor kid. How the hell will he get over that? Sick bitch. | |||
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"This isn't a sexist debate it's a debate of personal opinion not necessarily who is right and who is wrong. As long as children are safeguarded behind closed doors no one should be judging anyone else or setting the rules in another's home or private life Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm " It was an observation based on the replies | |||
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"We are all adults able to make adult decisions in our own homes and lives - children are a part of this world and of course we would safeguard children away from activities outside of the 'watershed' - married couples living together have healthy sex lives whilst children sleep peacefully why shouldn't anyone else it's about knowing the routines and children within your own homes and then deciding what can be fitted around the priorities. If adults agree a plan b incase plan a is interrupted then it's fine " That's married couples though, the children's parents. A child walking on its parents being intimate with other people is an entirely different scenario. | |||
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"We are all adults able to make adult decisions in our own homes and lives - children are a part of this world and of course we would safeguard children away from activities outside of the 'watershed' - married couples living together have healthy sex lives whilst children sleep peacefully why shouldn't anyone else it's about knowing the routines and children within your own homes and then deciding what can be fitted around the priorities. If adults agree a plan b incase plan a is interrupted then it's fine That's married couples though, the children's parents. A child walking on its parents being intimate with other people is an entirely different scenario." I quite agree. Poor child. God knows what he would be thinking. It happens, we all know it happens. | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm " Nor alot of women. The ones that show up here for the most part will be suitably morally outraged at the mere thought of having sex within 500 yards of their precious bundles. But plenty women do | |||
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"We are all adults able to make adult decisions in our own homes and lives - children are a part of this world and of course we would safeguard children away from activities outside of the 'watershed' - married couples living together have healthy sex lives whilst children sleep peacefully why shouldn't anyone else it's about knowing the routines and children within your own homes and then deciding what can be fitted around the priorities. If adults agree a plan b incase plan a is interrupted then it's fine That's married couples though, the children's parents. A child walking on its parents being intimate with other people is an entirely different scenario." | |||
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"Suddenly swingers claiming morals? ??" But I am responsible for me only. What I do doesnt have any impact on anyone else. | |||
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"We are all adults able to make adult decisions in our own homes and lives - children are a part of this world and of course we would safeguard children away from activities outside of the 'watershed' - married couples living together have healthy sex lives whilst children sleep peacefully why shouldn't anyone else it's about knowing the routines and children within your own homes and then deciding what can be fitted around the priorities. If adults agree a plan b incase plan a is interrupted then it's fine That's married couples though, the children's parents. A child walking on its parents being intimate with other people is an entirely different scenario. I quite agree. Poor child. God knows what he would be thinking. It happens, we all know it happens." Exactly - I mean a kid can freak out just catching their parents at it. Imagine if they walked in on their mummy getting gang banged I'm not a mum yet, but if I was I wouldn't meet with my child in my home. Nor would I meet someone in their house if their child was present. I wouldn't feel comfortable or relaxed, nor would I wish to create an awkward situation where my presence would have to be explained to the child. | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm " Most women on here don't, but then again most single mothers on here get all weekends to themselves so not as big an issue. | |||
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"Suddenly swingers claiming morals? ??" Meaning they're immoral? | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! " You're telling people how to think? I'll keep my opinion thanks. | |||
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"Suddenly swingers claiming morals? ??" People can have recreational sex and still have morals | |||
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"Suddenly swingers claiming morals? ?? Meaning they're immoral? " I read that as immortal. Thumbs up. | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm Most women on here don't, but then again most single mothers on here get all weekends to themselves so not as big an issue. " Really ??? My ex never had our children ever, my daughter is now 20 and her brother 28. They were 7 and 15 when we parted ! No free weekends here | |||
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"No chance, not ever, not even social meets. Not gonna even explain it. Neither will I judge, some people agree, some don't. Everyone has their own opinion on it." | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! " What would happen if you were entertaining someone your children didn't know and one of them became ill, and came to look for you? Or heard you and got up to see what was going on? Would you be happy for your child to find out you were having sex with a stranger in their home? | |||
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"Suddenly swingers claiming morals? ?? People can have recreational sex and still have morals " | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! What would happen if you were entertaining someone your children didn't know and one of them became ill, and came to look for you? Or heard you and got up to see what was going on? Would you be happy for your child to find out you were having sex with a stranger in their home?" | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm " guys? which 'guys'? | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm Most women on here don't, but then again most single mothers on here get all weekends to themselves so not as big an issue. " Single mum of three here and most of us don't get the weekends to ourselves. I didn't have any relationships for seven years when my children were growing up as I was establishing my career and focusing on them. I created a stable home and there was no space for anyone else in that. In my profession I have seen too many parents focusing on their own agendas rather than their children's. Now my children are older teens, one at university another at work and the third doing her GSCEs. My OH I met on here and he has teens too, so now we live together, all the kids know us both, but the kids and our relationship always come first over swinging,.... | |||
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"Suddenly swingers claiming morals? ?? Meaning they're immoral? I read that as immortal. Thumbs up. " Maybe that's what went wrong..i wanted to be immortal when i was young...maybe someone got the wrong end of the stick and just made me immoral | |||
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"How many people are so unaware in there own homes they wouldn't hear things first and stop the adult activity - who has never been interrupted in the act whether it's the doorbell or the phone or whatever but we are adults we don't keep at it regardless we pull over the duvet, put ourselves away and act as if we are discussing the weather - grow up people In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! What would happen if you were entertaining someone your children didn't know and one of them became ill, and came to look for you? Or heard you and got up to see what was going on? Would you be happy for your child to find out you were having sex with a stranger in their home?" Who's being moralistic now! If you'd been here any amount of time, you'd know that swingers are the most moralistic people around, just wait and see posts on any topic of interest. I dont think there is anything wrong with that. Why assume swingers have no morals, they are real people too, living normal lives and making normal every day decisions just like everyone else. | |||
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"Meaning we are as swingers promoting sexual freedom between adults but then making assumptions of parents because they might have sex in their home - why not all presume we are safeguarding our children UNLESS there is evidence to the contrary!?!" How do you safeguard your children against seeing or hearing you having sex or against someone harming them? My way would have been to not invite strangers into my home and not have sex in my home, with anyone but my husband. | |||
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"We are all adults able to make adult decisions in our own homes and lives - children are a part of this world and of course we would safeguard children away from activities outside of the 'watershed' - married couples living together have healthy sex lives whilst children sleep peacefully why shouldn't anyone else it's about knowing the routines and children within your own homes and then deciding what can be fitted around the priorities. If adults agree a plan b incase plan a is interrupted then it's fine " Some parents struggle with sitters...My eldest won't sit for us if it's for a meet and I wouldn't trust any of the local kids to sit in our garden let alone inside our house. It would take a bomb going off outside to wake our son up when he's asleep (he slept through a car crash 40 feet away from his window last month) so we're perfectly happy to entertain while he's here. Not saying we'd have a full blown orgy but discretion doesn't always mean being secretive because you're cheating on your partner. Before I get castigated for my sweeping generalisation of everyone needing discretion being a cheat, that's not my intention but I'm sure some posters won't get what I mean. | |||
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"It's for people to choose, personally I would not relax, and would be concerned for my kids if they were little. Purely because some people would not respect that your kids are more important than their needs." I would not have been able to relax either. Even with people I knew well, I wouldn't feel comfortable with anything sexual happening, just in case. It's something you would have to live with forever. | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm " tar and brush Hmm? | |||
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"Ive searched the forums for this type of topic but couldnt find it so posting on here. For those of you who have children would you invite people that you met from fab round to your house whilst your kids were in their bedrooms asleep or not as the case may be? I had an offer to do so with a little boy in the house. I firmly declined. I could never do that. What are you opinions? " To answere your question, no we wouldn't. Whilst we're not ashamed of our lifestyle, we wouldn't want to take the risk of children walking in on us. Yes everyone's situation is different and you have to go what you think is ok, in your own home. | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! What would happen if you were entertaining someone your children didn't know and one of them became ill, and came to look for you? Or heard you and got up to see what was going on? Would you be happy for your child to find out you were having sex with a stranger in their home?" I feel the same way about my kids being ill. I haven't had an alcoholic drink since I had kids as I think, what would happen is one of them got sick and I was too out of it. I haven't until very recently when they are at a friend's house, spent a night away from any of my kids, because I am the only parent they have and I need to be there. I was an hour away from my eighteen year old when he had a medical emergency and that freaked me out. Luckily his older brother was there and so was the ambulance within ten minutes, but I take my parental rights seriously, and my definition of 'seriously' is just that. On the flip side, it was very tricky at first beginning to go out with my OH when we were 'dating' (actually we were even though we met on here) as my kids were used to monopolising me .... but I prefer it that way than them being left to their own devices | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! " I agree with u, the subject matter is being taken way out o context | |||
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"I do with a very select few but only if I've met that person before hand away from my home and feel that it is totally safe to do so. Not saying that means I jump into bed with them sometimes it's just drinks a chat and a laugh cos I can't get out. The way I look at it is I'd have friends over for drinks so why can't I see people off fab under the same cirsumstances. I will add at this point that 2 of these people I've known for over a year and that both of them have since meet my children. I hear you say why the answer is that at the end of the day I may have met them off of a swinging site but since then we have become very good friends. Therefore I treat them as friends xx" I guess also you know your childs routine and for some they havent had any problems with it and kids stay fast asleep. Im sorry for earleir when I did mention that `the guys' seem to be less concerned and yes it was a sweeping generalisation which i apologise for. Just an interesting topic and we are all free to live our lives how we see fit. | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! I agree with u, the subject matter is being taken way out o context" Do you invite strangers over while your children are in bed? | |||
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"In my home there are clear rules and bed times for children if they were older I would make arrangements revolving around theirs - I think this thread has lost its way and too many people on a swinging website claiming pious morals! I agree with u, the subject matter is being taken way out o context" The context being the safety and well being of children and your responsibility as an adult to look after them. | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm Most women on here don't, but then again most single mothers on here get all weekends to themselves so not as big an issue. Single mum of three here and most of us don't get the weekends to ourselves. I didn't have any relationships for seven years when my children were growing up as I was establishing my career and focusing on them. I created a stable home and there was no space for anyone else in that. In my profession I have seen too many parents focusing on their own agendas rather than their children's. Now my children are older teens, one at university another at work and the third doing her GSCEs. My OH I met on here and he has teens too, so now we live together, all the kids know us both, but the kids and our relationship always come first over swinging,.... " You might not, most do. Same for me, I've spent the last few years doing nothing but my boys and all my energy in to then but now I've relaxed my own rules as I need to have some adult contact, even if it's just a brew. | |||
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"I do with a very select few but only if I've met that person before hand away from my home and feel that it is totally safe to do so. Not saying that means I jump into bed with them sometimes it's just drinks a chat and a laugh cos I can't get out. The way I look at it is I'd have friends over for drinks so why can't I see people off fab under the same cirsumstances. I will add at this point that 2 of these people I've known for over a year and that both of them have since meet my children. I hear you say why the answer is that at the end of the day I may have met them off of a swinging site but since then we have become very good friends. Therefore I treat them as friends xx I guess also you know your childs routine and for some they havent had any problems with it and kids stay fast asleep. Im sorry for earleir when I did mention that `the guys' seem to be less concerned and yes it was a sweeping generalisation which i apologise for. Just an interesting topic and we are all free to live our lives how we see fit. " It's fine like you say we all live our lives as we see fit. | |||
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"I do with a very select few but only if I've met that person before hand away from my home and feel that it is totally safe to do so. Not saying that means I jump into bed with them sometimes it's just drinks a chat and a laugh cos I can't get out. The way I look at it is I'd have friends over for drinks so why can't I see people off fab under the same cirsumstances. I will add at this point that 2 of these people I've known for over a year and that both of them have since meet my children. I hear you say why the answer is that at the end of the day I may have met them off of a swinging site but since then we have become very good friends. Therefore I treat them as friends xx" There is nothing wrong whatsoever with inviting friends over for drinks or a chat the issue being debated is the presence of kids in the house whilst adults are indulging in recreational sex. My view is the latter shows very poor judgement. | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm Most women on here don't, but then again most single mothers on here get all weekends to themselves so not as big an issue. Single mum of three here and most of us don't get the weekends to ourselves. I didn't have any relationships for seven years when my children were growing up as I was establishing my career and focusing on them. I created a stable home and there was no space for anyone else in that. In my profession I have seen too many parents focusing on their own agendas rather than their children's. Now my children are older teens, one at university another at work and the third doing her GSCEs. My OH I met on here and he has teens too, so now we live together, all the kids know us both, but the kids and our relationship always come first over swinging,.... You might not, most do. Same for me, I've spent the last few years doing nothing but my boys and all my energy in to then but now I've relaxed my own rules as I need to have some adult contact, even if it's just a brew. " Having a cup of tea with someone is not the same as having sex, although you would still have to be sure that the person could not have access to your children and that your children would be ok finding various strange women in their home. I know teenagers who would go mental if they came home to find a strange person in their house, and others who would think nothing of it because it happens a lot. New mum/dad every few months. | |||
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"We entertain at home with our son asleep upstairs, he is only a toddler and sleeps in a cot as he has a habit of falling out of bed otherwise, so no chance of him walking in on us. We never have people round till he is firmly asleep and our play room is downstairs anyway and luckily he is a very heavy sleeper. But saying this when he is a bit older we wont play or even have a social at ours. " Are the people you meet well known to you and can they get to his room without you knowing? Like, going to the toilet and his room is next to it? | |||
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"Meaning we are as swingers promoting sexual freedom between adults but then making assumptions of parents because they might have sex in their home - why not all presume we are safeguarding our children UNLESS there is evidence to the contrary!?! How do you safeguard your children against seeing or hearing you having sex or against someone harming them? My way would have been to not invite strangers into my home and not have sex in my home, with anyone but my husband. " Seeing....lock the door. Hearing, I don't think kids would be able to hear the difference between it being your husband or someone else. I don't think people are talking about strangers they pull off the street....Maybe people they have met a few times at clubs ect...and maybe chatted to for a while. How long do you need to chat for or how many meets is it until they aren't a stranger! I think too many people are on their high horse in this thread.... | |||
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"Notice guys dont seem to have a problem with it in general. Hmm Most women on here don't, but then again most single mothers on here get all weekends to themselves so not as big an issue. Single mum of three here and most of us don't get the weekends to ourselves. I didn't have any relationships for seven years when my children were growing up as I was establishing my career and focusing on them. I created a stable home and there was no space for anyone else in that. In my profession I have seen too many parents focusing on their own agendas rather than their children's. Now my children are older teens, one at university another at work and the third doing her GSCEs. My OH I met on here and he has teens too, so now we live together, all the kids know us both, but the kids and our relationship always come first over swinging,.... You might not, most do. Same for me, I've spent the last few years doing nothing but my boys and all my energy in to then but now I've relaxed my own rules as I need to have some adult contact, even if it's just a brew. Having a cup of tea with someone is not the same as having sex, although you would still have to be sure that the person could not have access to your children and that your children would be ok finding various strange women in their home. I know teenagers who would go mental if they came home to find a strange person in their house, and others who would think nothing of it because it happens a lot. New mum/dad every few months." They never find any strange women in my house, they have their bed routine and are asleep before anyone is invited in. They have never met a single one of my meets. I also never invite new meets to my house and I would want a number of socials before they are invited in. Also meets aren't allowed upstairs, that is non negotiable. | |||
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"We entertain at home with our son asleep upstairs, he is only a toddler and sleeps in a cot as he has a habit of falling out of bed otherwise, so no chance of him walking in on us. We never have people round till he is firmly asleep and our play room is downstairs anyway and luckily he is a very heavy sleeper. But saying this when he is a bit older we wont play or even have a social at ours. Are the people you meet well known to you and can they get to his room without you knowing? Like, going to the toilet and his room is next to it? " Play meets are always well known otherwise we dont invite them round. And people definetly cant get into his room without us knowing. We keep all the upstairs doors shut (except the bathroom) there are two doors into his actual bedroom one of which has a jingly door handle so i would hear it. Not to mention the dog sleeps outside his door and doesnt even move for me so nobody else has a chance. I wouldnt do it at home if i wasnt 100% sure my son was 100% safe. Its not something we do every weekend maybe every 6 weeks or so. | |||
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"We entertain at home with our son asleep upstairs, he is only a toddler and sleeps in a cot as he has a habit of falling out of bed otherwise, so no chance of him walking in on us. We never have people round till he is firmly asleep and our play room is downstairs anyway and luckily he is a very heavy sleeper. But saying this when he is a bit older we wont play or even have a social at ours. Are the people you meet well known to you and can they get to his room without you knowing? Like, going to the toilet and his room is next to it? Play meets are always well known otherwise we dont invite them round. And people definetly cant get into his room without us knowing. We keep all the upstairs doors shut (except the bathroom) there are two doors into his actual bedroom one of which has a jingly door handle so i would hear it. Not to mention the dog sleeps outside his door and doesnt even move for me so nobody else has a chance. I wouldnt do it at home if i wasnt 100% sure my son was 100% safe. Its not something we do every weekend maybe every 6 weeks or so. " World is utterly mad! | |||
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"No, not happening, But if we lived in some dirty great house with 15 bedrooms & a 24hr nanny on site with the kids in their own wing then yeah fine..But we don't. S" Ha! Totally this | |||
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"Ive searched the forums for this type of topic but couldnt find it so posting on here. For those of you who have children would you invite people that you met from fab round to your house whilst your kids were in their bedrooms asleep or not as the case may be? I had an offer to do so with a little boy in the house. I firmly declined. I could never do that. What are you opinions? " I see a few couples regularly where kids are asleep upstairs . It may not always be practical to arrange either a baby sitter or accommodation away from home . At these meets the downstairs room is always blocked or barred to prevent anyone entering. Noise is kept to a mininum and the meet is made on the understanding that the couple or lady concerned can cancel at any time should children wake up before I arrive. The priorities of the children always come first and I am alway happy to leave immediately should children either wake up or need attention. Providing the situations are properly handled and consideration is shown by both parties, problems should not arise . | |||
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"Also there is a big difference to arranging a one on one meet in the bedroom or wherever when kids are asleep in bed to organising a gang bang - I think we all agree that the gang bang would have to be an empty house or hotel simply because of the increased volume of people, noise and risk of disturbing kids etc " I make a bit of noise one to one. You can't let yourself go with people in any room in the house, especially at night with no other sound to mask it. I can't do silent sex. | |||
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"We don't meet within 20 miles of any kids or puppies just in case " | |||
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"We don't meet within 20 miles of any kids or puppies just in case " I couldn't have sex with my puppy in the house. He would sit at the bottom of the stairs, crying. | |||
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"What a ridiculous statement and parameter to claim! Some entire towns including urban sprawl don't span more than 5 miles so even if you are shagging in the woods who's to say an unsuspecting family/kids aren't to turn up! Such a pious soap box stand! We don't meet within 20 miles of any kids or puppies just in case " I don't shag in woods, just in case someone stumbles upon us. Tried it once and never again. | |||
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"Ive searched the forums for this type of topic but couldnt find it so posting on here. For those of you who have children would you invite people that you met from fab round to your house whilst your kids were in their bedrooms asleep or not as the case may be? I had an offer to do so with a little boy in the house. I firmly declined. I could never do that. What are you opinions? I see a few couples regularly where kids are asleep upstairs . It may not always be practical to arrange either a baby sitter or accommodation away from home . At these meets the downstairs room is always blocked or barred to prevent anyone entering. Noise is kept to a mininum and the meet is made on the understanding that the couple or lady concerned can cancel at any time should children wake up before I arrive. The priorities of the children always come first and I am alway happy to leave immediately should children either wake up or need attention. Providing the situations are properly handled and consideration is shown by both parties, problems should not arise . " With all those provisos then why bother? | |||
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"A massive assumption also that people don't have dirty great big houses with wings, nannies etc the point being however we all work with the living spaces we have but whether we like it or not the majority of us all and our kids are generally often with yards meters feet of other human beings having sex even when we walk down the street past front doors or down hotel corridors Bon holiday with our kids - it's about protocol and etiquette within our homes and I have no problem knowing what's manageable in my own home and what isn't and when it's appropriate to go dogging, shag in the car a book a hotel room - it's outrageous to suggest anyone in here would intentially expose children to sexual behaviours of adults or not take necessary precautions " And our measures are our choice to do exactly that... I also imagine that as we are all being so adult, you would respect the rights of someone who would turn down the opportunity to meet you under those circumstances because they prefer not to meet with other people's children in the house? | |||
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"What a ridiculous statement and parameter to claim! Some entire towns including urban sprawl don't span more than 5 miles so even if you are shagging in the woods who's to say an unsuspecting family/kids aren't to turn up! Such a pious soap box stand! We don't meet within 20 miles of any kids or puppies just in case " You had a sense of humour bypass mate? I'm pretty sure that was a joke | |||
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"What a ridiculous statement and parameter to claim! Some entire towns including urban sprawl don't span more than 5 miles so even if you are shagging in the woods who's to say an unsuspecting family/kids aren't to turn up! Such a pious soap box stand! We don't meet within 20 miles of any kids or puppies just in case You had a sense of humour bypass mate? I'm pretty sure that was a joke " I think was a joke. Just a hunch mind you! | |||
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"With all those provisos then why bother?" Oh no they will be gutted your ruling yourself out I'm sure. | |||
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"With all those provisos then why bother? Oh no they will be gutted your ruling yourself out I'm sure. " Their loss, clearly! | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. " Dear me, You are a selective reader. Having sex with strangers or good friends while there are kids in close proximity is, in my opinion wrong and totally irresponsible. Thats my view so it would seem the view of a lot more and idiot comments like yours would not make me change it. | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. Dear me, You are a selective reader. Having sex with strangers or good friends while there are kids in close proximity is, in my opinion wrong and totally irresponsible. Thats my view so it would seem the view of a lot more and idiot comments like yours would not make me change it." You said and I quote "whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex" how is that been selective?? | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. Dear me, You are a selective reader. Having sex with strangers or good friends while there are kids in close proximity is, in my opinion wrong and totally irresponsible. Thats my view so it would seem the view of a lot more and idiot comments like yours would not make me change it. You said and I quote "whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex" how is that been selective?? " I suppose I would answer that by saying selecting the task of putting the kettle on and comparing it with having recreational sex then my words are lost on you. | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. Let me ask you a question then young Sheffield lad. You talk to someone on fab be it a couple or single. You are invited round would you turn up if you knew there were children in the dwelling? Say that is a yes and you get down to the nitty gritty with you playmate and the child awakes and requires attention do you stop, or carry on? What if the child is say 6 years old for instance and wonders in on the shenanigans? If the child needs to be comforted do you hang around or take your leave? I would be interested to know your position in such circumstances." If it was a first meeting no I wouldn't. As a single full time dad I know it's better to build the trust first for that sort of meet. As a dad to young children I would immediately stop, gather my things and make myself respectable and see what the partner in question wanted me to do as she is the one who will know best with regards her children. Also as I have a child of that age I know as any parent does when there child is stiring or moving upstairs and can stop anything. Any more? | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. Dear me, You are a selective reader. Having sex with strangers or good friends while there are kids in close proximity is, in my opinion wrong and totally irresponsible. Thats my view so it would seem the view of a lot more and idiot comments like yours would not make me change it. You said and I quote "whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex" how is that been selective?? I suppose I would answer that by saying selecting the task of putting the kettle on and comparing it with having recreational sex then my words are lost on you. " Okay well since you've brushed over my point I presume you realise I wasn't been selective. | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. Let me ask you a question then young Sheffield lad. You talk to someone on fab be it a couple or single. You are invited round would you turn up if you knew there were children in the dwelling? Say that is a yes and you get down to the nitty gritty with you playmate and the child awakes and requires attention do you stop, or carry on? What if the child is say 6 years old for instance and wonders in on the shenanigans? If the child needs to be comforted do you hang around or take your leave? I would be interested to know your position in such circumstances. If it was a first meeting no I wouldn't. As a single full time dad I know it's better to build the trust first for that sort of meet. As a dad to young children I would immediately stop, gather my things and make myself respectable and see what the partner in question wanted me to do as she is the one who will know best with regards her children. Also as I have a child of that age I know as any parent does when there child is stiring or moving upstairs and can stop anything. Any more? " I think you have proved my point there! I shall say nowt else! | |||
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"I have sex with the other half whilst the children are in bed. But always have one ear open for footsteps. The potential for little eyes to see is far too great to risk it. So for us its a no. Have no opinion on others doing what is right for them. Some homes are safer to play in especially if there are creaky floor boards upstairs." Our teens moan at us if we are too noisy and bang on the wall! And that's just us ... say we shouldn't be doing it at our age ... | |||
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"No its totally and utterly wrong and those who purvey such notions are displaying a total disregard for their kids. What a load of bollocks ! Adults can determine what's ok and what's not . Why is it a total disregard for their kids ? Are you saying that for the time the kids are growing up a single parent can't have sex in their own house till the kids leave home ? Or indeed that a couple can't have friends over , and enjoy a bit of fun while the kids are sleeping ? My view is that whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex for a number of reasons. Firstly whilst children are in the care of their guardians the primary concern is for their health safety and welfare. Additionally recreational sex is in the main somewhat transient in its nature (before you loose it I did say in the main) and again I think it irresponsible to indulge whilst there are children (or puppies) in close proximity. You draw a comparison with single parents having sex in their own house which is irrelevant to the original question and my comments. That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read in my whole time on fab. You never have sex even with a partner if kids are in the house? Ever? How does 2 consulting adults jeopardise a child's health and welfare once they are fast asleep tucked up in bed? That's like saying you can't even have a cup of tea at night because the kettle has to go on and you might neglect your child while you make it. Ridiculous comment. Dear me, You are a selective reader. Having sex with strangers or good friends while there are kids in close proximity is, in my opinion wrong and totally irresponsible. Thats my view so it would seem the view of a lot more and idiot comments like yours would not make me change it. You said and I quote "whilst there are children in the house it is totally inappropriate for adults to engage in recreational sex" how is that been selective?? I suppose I would answer that by saying selecting the task of putting the kettle on and comparing it with having recreational sex then my words are lost on you. Okay well since you've brushed over my point I presume you realise I wasn't been selective. Ok I will say summat else! You are comparing an every day occurrence with a quite an unusual event that is making a cup of tea to having sex with, presumably, a little known acquaintance. In you last post you admit that you would no go to a meeting initially with children present in the house. So what is your position? I am afraid its you that is talking bollocks. No matter what you say I firmly believe that recreational sex meets are not kosher when children are present. Perhaps its a generational thing? Sorry but sex is just as much an every day event than sex in this house! The point was the way your post read was that if you do anything but watch your kids 24/7 your been neglectful and risking their welfare. I wouldn't rule out going to someones house after a social if kids are there but I wouldn't on a first meet. I don't think it's generational no. " Its a generational thing .........believe me! | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons." Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. | |||
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"Then there would be no debate or forum? What you are doing is not the same. You are getting into a personal conversation with one poster. Let others have a chance too ... it's not personalPost away who is stopping you? Thanks, but I have been here a while and I dont need your permission. Then don't tell me what to do Oh my goodness ... here we go again, getting personal ... really chill outTotally chilled thanks Have you tried the politics forum?I have and assume you haven't?" I post on the politics thread most nowadays. If you click on the green arrow you will see. I dont get to post very often though as I work long hours. Usually the politics threads have the most interesting debates in my opinion and people do repeat themselves .... | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger." Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it." I don't think people are suggesting a sex meeting when kids are present. That would be something else entirely. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. I don't think people are suggesting a sex meeting when kids are present. That would be something else entirely. " What is the suggestion can I ask? | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. I don't think people are suggesting a sex meeting when kids are present. That would be something else entirely. What is the suggestion can I ask?" My take on 'sex meeting when kids are present' implies that kids are at the meeting, as opposed to kids in the house .... there is an implied difference in the semantics there. My experience and stance on it I have given above. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it." But we all make judgement calls every day. Why are yours more valid than mine? Or any other posters? OP asked what people thought. It's ok to say what you think. It's ok for me to say what I think. But what's not ok is to call out "irresponsible!" to a person for expressing their opinion. No more than it would be for me to call out "close minded moron" if anyone chose to disagree with me. But if there are no facts, then it's a judgement call. And if your call was to say no should I invite you over then I'd not take offence at that. But it seems you'd take offence if I invited you. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. I don't think people are suggesting a sex meeting when kids are present. That would be something else entirely. What is the suggestion can I ask? My take on 'sex meeting when kids are present' implies that kids are at the meeting, as opposed to kids in the house .... there is an implied difference in the semantics there. My experience and stance on it I have given above. " Semantics........best leave it here as quite clearly you have misinterpreted the whole thread! | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. I don't think people are suggesting a sex meeting when kids are present. That would be something else entirely. What is the suggestion can I ask? My take on 'sex meeting when kids are present' implies that kids are at the meeting, as opposed to kids in the house .... there is an implied difference in the semantics there. My experience and stance on it I have given above. Semantics........best leave it here as quite clearly you have misinterpreted the whole thread!" Nope, I just know that means something entirely different .... present means right there, as opposed to in the house. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. But we all make judgement calls every day. Why are yours more valid than mine? Or any other posters? OP asked what people thought. It's ok to say what you think. It's ok for me to say what I think. But what's not ok is to call out "irresponsible!" to a person for expressing their opinion. No more than it would be for me to call out "close minded moron" if anyone chose to disagree with me. But if there are no facts, then it's a judgement call. And if your call was to say no should I invite you over then I'd not take offence at that. But it seems you'd take offence if I invited you." I did say that if my comments were being judgemental then so be it. I was not calling anyone irresponsible for their opinions more over their actions and again if that is judgemental then I am being. Being honest if you did invite me and you said there would be children in the house it would cause me concern and would offend me. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. I don't think people are suggesting a sex meeting when kids are present. That would be something else entirely. What is the suggestion can I ask? My take on 'sex meeting when kids are present' implies that kids are at the meeting, as opposed to kids in the house .... there is an implied difference in the semantics there. My experience and stance on it I have given above. Semantics........best leave it here as quite clearly you have misinterpreted the whole thread! Nope, I just know that means something entirely different .... present means right there, as opposed to in the house." Yes semantics. | |||
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"I have. Not random strangers though. Sometimes it's just how life works. I'd hear my kids before they ever walked in. And I might do again. Because there's not a single thing in this thread that makes me thing I've ever put my children in any kind of danger. I'm more irresponsible when my friend comes over and we have wine. If they hear? Or even see? So what! Do you have any idea how long adults were having sex in earshot of kids? And it didn't end the human race, did it? I have awesome kids. They'll always come first. But I come a very close second. Then given the reprimand about taking over the debate we shall have to agree to disagree for all sorts of reasons. Actually, you've given me nothing to disagree on. Because all you've done is point out over and over again how it's irresponsible. Which is just an opinion. Tell me some facts. State something other some general presumption. In the meantime I'll choose to continue to put my children first. I'll choose to continue to safeguard my children. And, perhaps most importantly at this point, I'll continue to raise my children with love and compassion instead of judgement and anger. Then I applaud your sentiments. I have responded to one respondent in particular in answering his comments yes. As for facts are there any to relay? I cannot comment on any experiences in this regards as I would not invite anyone or accept an invitation to go to a sex meeting where kids are present. If that is being judgemental then so be it. But we all make judgement calls every day. Why are yours more valid than mine? Or any other posters? OP asked what people thought. It's ok to say what you think. It's ok for me to say what I think. But what's not ok is to call out "irresponsible!" to a person for expressing their opinion. No more than it would be for me to call out "close minded moron" if anyone chose to disagree with me. But if there are no facts, then it's a judgement call. And if your call was to say no should I invite you over then I'd not take offence at that. But it seems you'd take offence if I invited you.I did say that if my comments were being judgemental then so be it. I was not calling anyone irresponsible for their opinions more over their actions and again if that is judgemental then I am being. Being honest if you did invite me and you said there would be children in the house it would cause me concern and would offend me. At what point would it become acceptable? Where's the line? In your opinion, obviously." I would not attend a house for a FAB meeting at all if there were children present and asleep. Just would not happen. | |||
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