FabSwingers.com forum: Osama bin Laden is dead

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Great news, hopefully the world will be a safer place to live now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there will be thousands more ready to step into his shoes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, it's been reported ....

I don't think I'll believe it until there's DNA evidence to back it up. Not sure the world will be a safer place either as there will be no shortage of nutjobs waiting to fill 'the martyr's' sandals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But is he really dead ????

Apparantly his body has already been disposed of ... strange

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hes evaded the "worlds most powerful country" for 10 years, i wouldnt be suprised if we saw a video of him in next few weeks saying im not dead lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

HOOOO RAWWWW...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing for sure - I'd not fancy flying to the USA in the near future. Oh yes it's 'All hail America' for the time being. The yanks are their usual vocal selves woop woop, and all the usual overblown American celebrations, but just wait until there are more terrorist attacks on American targets, we'll soon see who's dead and gone. Maybe he is dead, maybe he isn't but one thing for sure, someone else will already be doing his job and plotting against the West.

Lets just hope that when the Yanks become targets that we as a country keep our noses well and truly out of it .....

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

The body had to be burried within 24hrs of death to fit in with muslim law and lets face it the US can do without adding insult to the muslims by not following this rule. Rather clever tho having a burial at sea to stop the burial site becoming a nutters meeting point.

Steve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ummmm....

If anything untoward should befall Bill Gates.... Will all computers stop working...?

{ Just a thought... }

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ummmm....

If anything untoward should befall Bill Gates.... Will all computers stop working...?

{ Just a thought... }

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But is he really dead ????

Apparantly his body has already been disposed of ... strange

yeh thats what makes it seem strange , surely thay would ov parade'd it about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But is he really dead ????

Apparantly his body has already been disposed of ... strange

yeh thats what makes it seem strange , surely thay would ov parade'd it about

Not really. Why? This isn't Iraq during the First Gulf War with the airmen shot down....

Quite apart from the adherence to Muslim tradition, there is a risk that it will be (what's the right word for a corpse) stolen/kidnapped. It's done and gone before most people know so that there is a reduced risk of trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The body had to be burried within 24hrs of death to fit in with muslim law and lets face it the US can do without adding insult to the muslims by not following this rule. Rather clever tho having a burial at sea to stop the burial site becoming a nutters meeting point.

Steve"

Just as long as he doesnt come back as a terrorist dolphin-He'd been "outsmarting" us for years...imagine with the power of a dolphins intelligence where he'd most likely hide...Bomb the sea quick!!!!!!! hehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But is he really dead ????

Apparantly his body has already been disposed of ... strange

yeh thats what makes it seem strange , surely thay would ov parade'd it about

Not really. Why? This isn't Iraq during the First Gulf War with the airmen shot down....

thanks for clearing that up hun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I lived north of the Watford Gap I'd probably cheer and raise a glass and toast his demise.

I live in central London and my first thought was "oooooooooh shit!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I lived north of the Watford Gap I'd probably cheer and raise a glass and toast his demise.

I live in central London and my first thought was "oooooooooh shit!"

sakes sassy, couldnt u get to a toilet...how embarrassing,,,and right in the centre of London...and in this weather...run quick home lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I lived north of the Watford Gap I'd probably cheer and raise a glass and toast his demise.

I live in central London and my first thought was "oooooooooh shit!"

sakes sassy, couldnt u get to a toilet...how embarrassing,,,and right in the centre of London...and in this weather...run quick home lol"

*center

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

That's what they say - but only to keep the mohammedans happy. In reality he's probably going to be preserved in spirits in a glass tank in the CIA HQ basement. The Russians used to bury dead mohammedan terrorists wrapped in pigskin - which these people believed would keep them out of paradise - and let it be known the same would happen to any others, as a deterrent.

Whatever has happened to this vile man's body, it's great news and we should all rejoice. Hope the rest of his gang get the same rough justice!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Great news, hopefully the world will be a safer place to live now."

I think it will be quite the opposite...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thinking of osamas family at this time.......

the bin laden groups shares will go up....

wonder who will be doing business with them...

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By *razydriver8Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

so let me get one this clear,,, a clever man like Bin larden,, leader of a huge group and hes not gonna have people trained to take over..?

what would happen here if say our prime minister was killed..??? would our country , policies come to an end.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its beginning to sound from some of the posts that it was better he remained at liberty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I lived north of the Watford Gap I'd probably cheer and raise a glass and toast his demise.

I live in central London and my first thought was "oooooooooh shit!"

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have to agree with you there taught the very same.

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By *razydriver8Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

"its beginning to sound from some of the posts that it was better he remained at liberty

i agree he needed to pay for his crimes, but its not going to stop " the holy war" there are still people willing to dye for both sides and who are going to die or be killed.

the death of this one man wont stop that..

Just my humble opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ... what would happen here if say our prime minister was..."

*fights temptation to suggest giving it a try...*

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By *ex.IncCouple
over a year ago

Castleford

Glad its not just us thats skeptical about the whole ordeal, something just sounds odd about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I lived north of the Watford Gap I'd probably cheer and raise a glass and toast his demise.

I live in central London and my first thought was "oooooooooh shit!"

sakes sassy, couldnt u get to a toilet...how embarrassing,,,and right in the centre of London...and in this weather...run quick home lol"

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

"Glad its not just us thats skeptical about the whole ordeal, something just sounds odd about it."

dont think Obama would be so stupid as to make such an announcement if he thought there was a chance "the real" Bin Laden suddenly appeared on al-jezzera declaring he was still alive - that would be political suicide both at home and world wide

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"its beginning to sound from some of the posts that it was better he remained at liberty

Funny, I get the impression from some of these posts that terrorism has come to an end, al Qeda is no more and all extreme muslims are converting to Christianity as we speak!

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"Great news, hopefully the world will be a safer place to live now.

I think it will be quite the opposite..."

I agree with this and also Sassys comment about living in central London,Hubby works all over central London and has been lucky enough over the years to narrowly avoid many bombing campaigns

Im Sure Osama Bin Laden would have had very clear plans to be put in place in the event of his demise and that scary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well i hope it is true and he is no more , yes i believe it will stop nothing and may provoke a reaction . As with any faction another extremist will pick up the reigns but at least theres one less nutter on the go .

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By *razydriver8Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

"its beginning to sound from some of the posts that it was better he remained at liberty

i agree he needed to pay for his crimes, but its not going to stop " the holy war" there are still people willing to dye for both sides and who are going to die or be killed.

the death of this one man wont stop that..

Just my humble opinion. "

I ment die... not DYE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I meant die... not DYE

We understand your colourful vocabulary...

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

"I meant die... not DYE

We understand your colourful vocabulary... "

groans ... this isnt the joke thread

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Unfortunatly one swallow doesnt make a summer. Im glad they got him but there will be other extremists to follow in his footsteps

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By *razydriver8Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

"Unfortunatly one swallow doesnt make a summer. Im glad they got him but there will be other extremists to follow in his footsteps"

but one swollow makes me a very happy lady..

sorry just couldn't resist...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Funny, I get the impression from some of these posts that terrorism has come to an end, al Qeda is no more and all extreme muslims are converting to Christianity as we speak!

did you hear that too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unfortunatly one swallow doesnt make a summer. Im glad they got him but there will be other extremists to follow in his footsteps"

Precisly. HIG or the Haqqanis are more than troublesome as it is. The problem is, Bin Laden was a figurehead of one organisation - which just happens to be the only one many people have heard of. But there are many more operating around the world and they'll continue to be a problem for years to come.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the principles of homeopathic medicine are correct the world's oceans are now Al Qaeda.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I meant die... not DYE

We understand your colourful vocabulary...

groans ... this isnt the joke thread

My bad...

But anyone who thinks that OBL gone will solve our problems...

should be script writing Mock the Week...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I meant die... not DYE

We understand your colourful vocabulary...

groans ... this isnt the joke thread

My bad...

But anyone who thinks that OBL gone will solve our problems...

should be script writing Mock the Week...

Agreed, but it's a start. Next in line ought to be Thatcher and the Bush boys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The western media seem to be lapping it up!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see new films coming out:

"JIHADTREK:The Search for Obama"

"Jules Vernes 2000 terrorists under the Sea"

"Disneys Finding Obama"

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

"I meant die... not DYE

We understand your colourful vocabulary...

groans ... this isnt the joke thread

My bad...

But anyone who thinks that OBL gone will solve our problems...

should be script writing Mock the Week...

Agreed, but it's a start. Next in line ought to be Thatcher and the Bush boys."

Next one Gordon Brown, surely - he did more damage than those two and Osama put together!

Now Osama's gone, perhaps Broon could move into his compound? Nobody has seen him for months, so he's hiding somewhere...

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

Agreed, but it's a start. Next in line ought to be Thatcher and the Bush boys.

Next one Gordon Brown, surely - he did more damage than those two and Osama put together!

cant recall Maggie, Tony, Gordon, George, David and even Bill combined causing as many civilian deaths combined as OBL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now they just have to get Gaddafi I wonder if that will take ten years or more and Mugabe they are pure evil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can see new films coming out:

"JIHADTREK:The Search for Osama"

"Jules Vernes 2000 terrorists under the Sea"

"Disneys Finding Osama"

had to correct maself lol...dunno why i kept writing obama lol...could see something was wrong lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ..............

But anyone who thinks that OBL gone will solve our problems...

should be script writing Mock the Week...

Agreed, but it's a start. Next in line ought to be Thatcher and the Bush boys.

Next one Gordon Brown, surely - he did more damage than those two and Osama put together!

Now Osama's gone, perhaps Broon could move into his compound? Nobody has seen him for months, so he's hiding somewhere...

Gordon? I don't follow the logic of that and, as for hiding somewhere, he was in Livingston this morning.

Not very glamorous I grant you (with apologies to Livingstonians everywhere) but not exactly hiding.

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By *oDownEasyMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Sadly there's boud to be another to step up

But who says the bins dont get taken out on a Bank Holiday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh no he's not! (panto effect)

More like Obama needed to save his political career!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

John Smiths recalling cans of tuna...there may be Osama flakes instead of tuna flakes inside!!!

damn am gettin sick!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"John Smiths recalling cans of tuna...there may be Osama flakes instead of tuna flakes inside!!!

damn am gettin sick!!"

and they are in OIL!!!!!!

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

To sassy and others,

To anyone north of watford gap, who'd like to lie low for a whiile in Bradford please contact me ultra discreetly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should that not be John West ?

John Smith makes beer does he not

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." - Mark Twain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cant recall Maggie, Tony, Gordon, George, David and even Bill combined causing as many civilian deaths combined as OBL

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there will be thousands more ready to step into his shoes"

or sandals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should that not be John West ?

John Smith makes beer does he not

Hmmm... Not sure... but theres somethin fishy goin on... and this thread has bin laden with strangeness for a while...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey Jezebel....you might be right!!! The world might blow up soon...

Better start looking for a meet....quick!

The queue starts....HERE?

Hardy...X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should that not be John West ?

John Smith makes beer does he not

Hmmm... Not sure... but theres somethin fishy goin on... and this thread has bin laden with strangeness for a while..."

lol been doing it all day... typing obama instead of osama, then john smith lolol

thank you rectified now as:

John West is recalling cans of tuna...there may be Osama flakes instead of tuna flakes inside!!!

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

MANILA, Philippines - Slain terrorist leader Osama bin Laden was a "martyr" for his cause, a Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) leader said Monday. He added that bin Laden's death has no direct effect on the MILF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have hoped that OBL would be caught one day, but now that day has arrived on hearing how this has been handled I cannot help but feel a little uncomfortable.

World leaders have mentioned 'justice' and 'rule of law' etc. These are in my mind the core values that differentiate good from not so good. The 'good' and 'just' don't do things because they are convenient, the easy option is not the determining factor for those that value doing the right thing.

I'm happy he has been caught, but why was he executed? Am I being naive?

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"I have hoped that OBL would be caught one day, but now that day has arrived on hearing how this has been handled I cannot help but feel a little uncomfortable.

I'm happy he has been caught, but why was he executed? Am I being naive? "

If he had have been captured, surely the attempts to liberate him would have been the loss of so many lives

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"I have hoped that OBL would be caught one day, but now that day has arrived on hearing how this has been handled I cannot help but feel a little uncomfortable.

I'm happy he has been caught, but why was he executed? Am I being naive? "
The spectacle of an international trial I suspect was what they wanted to avoid...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm happy he has been caught, but why was he executed? Am I being naive? "

I doubt if he gave them much choice... In his position, I dont think I would have...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They say justice has been done but it wont bring back all the lives lost in 9 11. There is no peace. And like others have said we will all be on high terror alert incase of a backlash.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

cant recall Maggie, Tony, Gordon, George, David and even Bill combined causing as many civilian deaths combined as OBL

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you. "

Not just Iraqi's., there are a number of people, myself included, who would have Tony Blair done for war crimes.

Except of course, the "west" are the Judge, Jury and evidence.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Great news, hopefully the world will be a safer place to live now."

Didn't his gang threaten massive revenge if the west ever killed Bin Laden? Also as it has been said there are thousands more waiting to fill his shoes.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"The western media seem to be lapping it up!"

Yes they are, but no more so than Al Jazeera when the two towers were bombed. You also say 'western media', where are you based then? Yemen? Or is it just that your allegiances lie elsewhere but your pay check or other income is better here?

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Well, it's been reported ....

I don't think I'll believe it until there's DNA evidence to back it up. Not sure the world will be a safer place either as there will be no shortage of nutjobs waiting to fill 'the martyr's' sandals.

I won't believe it until I see his dead body. Benazir Bhutto claimed Bin Laden had been dead for years. Shortly after that claim she was assassinated.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"hes evaded the "worlds most powerful country" for 10 years, i wouldnt be suprised if we saw a video of him in next few weeks saying im not dead lol"

He evaded the US for years yet a reporter got an interview with him no problem. How could a reporter find him yet the armies could not?

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have hoped that OBL would be caught one day, but now that day has arrived on hearing how this has been handled I cannot help but feel a little uncomfortable.

I'm happy he has been caught, but why was he executed? Am I being naive? "

Apparently he was given the option to surrender

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They checked the dna against his sister.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Not just Iraqi's., there are a number of people, myself included, who would have Tony Blair done for war crimes.

Except of course, the "west" are the Judge, Jury and evidence. "

Seconded

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

"Ummmm....

If anything untoward should befall Bill Gates.... Will all computers stop working...?

{ Just a thought... }

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How would I tell the difference?

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

cant recall Maggie, Tony, Gordon, George, David and even Bill combined causing as many civilian deaths combined as OBL

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you.

Not just Iraqi's., there are a number of people, myself included, who would have Tony Blair done for war crimes.

Except of course, the "west" are the Judge, Jury and evidence. "

Not sure what point you're trying to make here. There have been civilians killed as a consequence of military action by coalition forces but I think they have stopped short of flying passenger planes full of ordinary people into buildings or otherwise using local people as human shields. It is also worth mentioning that most Iraqi citizens are glad that Sadam has gone. The guy was a brutal dictator that murdered and gassed his own people. Problem is, as was the case with Yugoslavia, he kept the lid on all the ethnic division and it is in fact rival groups of tribal based Muslims (Sunni and Shia) that are blowing each other up now and for the past few years - this is what accounts for majority of civilian deaths not coalition forces.

Thing is the religious extremists would have us believe that there is a world wide Islamic brotherhood waiting to take over the world and sharia law will rule all. Rubbish, the various groups such as the Sunni and Shia Muslims hate each other as much as some Catholics and Protestants do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The western media seem to be lapping it up!

Why do you question my allegiance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Elton John has just re released like a Sandle in the bin

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"The western media seem to be lapping it up!

Why do you question my allegiance?"

Simply because you say 'western media' shouldn't that be 'the media'?

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

Actually according to the BBC as we know it al qaeda does not exist. The term al qaeda actually means the database. The al qaeda database contains a list of former mujahideen fighters whom the CIA funded to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. The CIA gave Bin Laden the codename Tim Osman. According to the BBC al qaeda has about 10 to 20 members at most. Bin Laden used to be paid by the CIA. Alo the bush family and the Bin Laden family have very close business ties.

To learn more go to you tube and search for al qaeda does not exist. It is a proper factual BBC documentary not some conspiracy theory stuff.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Actually according to the BBC as we know it al qaeda does not exist. The term al qaeda actually means the database. The al qaeda database contains a list of former mujahideen fighters whom the CIA funded to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. The CIA gave Bin Laden the codename Tim Osman. According to the BBC al qaeda has about 10 to 20 members at most. Bin Laden used to be paid by the CIA. Alo the bush family and the Bin Laden family have very close business ties.

To learn more go to you tube and search for al qaeda does not exist. It is a proper factual BBC documentary not some conspiracy theory stuff. "

Indeed, these situations are always more complex than they first appear. A few years on could it still be argued that the Iraqi regime change was in the national interest of the Uk or USA? Perhaps we could have done a deal with Saddam for cheap oil?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The western media seem to be lapping it up!

Why do you question my allegiance?

Simply because you say 'western media' shouldn't that be 'the media'?"

I dont class the chinese or pakistani as western media

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cant recall Maggie, Tony, Gordon, George, David and even Bill combined causing as many civilian deaths combined as OBL

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you.

Not just Iraqi's., there are a number of people, myself included, who would have Tony Blair done for war crimes.

Except of course, the "west" are the Judge, Jury and evidence.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here. There have been civilians killed as a consequence of military action by coalition forces but I think........."

How many? I respect the fact that your post went on to offer reasons and excuses, some which may even be valid, but how does the number of civilians killed as a consequence of military action by coalition forces compare to the number killed by OBL?

Don't misunderstand, I in no way support OBL, I just feel it's easy to fall prey to propaganda.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet Osama regrets filling in his census form now

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Don't misunderstand, I in no way support OBL, I just feel it's easy to fall prey to propaganda. "

you are right.. it is easy to fall prey to propaganda.. so lets still to facts...

groups "affliated" to this man have commited the follow....

the london bombings... 49 innocent people.. dead

the madrid bombings... 191 innocent people.. dead

the bali bombings... 204 innocent people.. dead

the Nairobi bombings... 212 innocent people.. dead

the september 11th bombings... 2936 innocent people... dead

the amman bombing... 60 innocent people... dead

the mumbai bombings... 165 innocent people... dead

and the list goes on.... and on... and on.. I haven't counted the various attacks they have committed in iraq....

i have been up since 4am when i got a million and one calls telling me i ought to be up to watch what was about to be announced...

I had a side in this... as most of you know i lost 6 darn good friends.... and how do i feel....

relief.... justice... a sense of pain for what they went thru....

that man and his various "organisations" killed a who ton of innocent people....

i am not a fan of "eye for an eye"... i believe that he got his eventually....

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

I am not being funny but how do we know al qaeda done 9/11.

Osama himself denied doing 9/11. His official statement was "While I am happy it happened I or my men had nothing to do with it". Also the Taliban said to the US give us proof Osama did it and we will happily hand him over to you.

If you look on the FBI website about Osama Bin Laden it lists the crimes he is wanted for. 9/11 is not one of them. When a reporter asked the FBI why it does not list 9/11 they replied we have no proof Osama done 9/11.

So if Osama and al qaeda did not do 9/11 who did?

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over a year ago

"I am not being funny but how do we know al qaeda done 9/11.

So if Osama and al qaeda did not do 9/11 who did?

He made a later video talking about his inspiration for 9/11, bombed out apartment blocks in Lebanon I think it was.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you.

Not just Iraqi's., there are a number of people, myself included, who would have Tony Blair done for war crimes.

Except of course, the "west" are the Judge, Jury and evidence.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here. There have been civilians killed as a consequence of military action by coalition forces but I think.........

its an interesting question... so i looked up the font of all knowledge "wikipedia" and looked up Al-Qaeda in Iraq...

so in all the attacks they have claimed responsability for from 2004 to 2009... they have killed... at least 1856 people (and that does not include the 872 people killed in 4 connected car bombs which everyone believes was them)

so.... 2600 people, that would be a lot of innocent iraqi civilians to be killed by the colition forces to even catch up with the iraqi chapter of AQ

puts it into some prospective

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Let's try a different perspectice on this shall we?

I recall a radio broadcast a day or so after 9/11. An American father, speaking of the loss of his son, recalled how his son, by all accounts a decent family man, took the weekly Boston to LA flight.

So that he could work for Raytheon. Who amongst other things make Missile Systems.

How many innocent civilians have Raytheon missiles killed in their time?

And the recent use of drones?

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

cant recall Maggie, Tony, Gordon, George, David and even Bill combined causing as many civilian deaths combined as OBL

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you. "

Apparently Western forced have killed over 1 million innocent civilians in Iraq. We also now know that Sadam had no weapons of mass destruction and we knew that.

Also we are going after Gadaffi but leaving Mugabi alone. I wonder why that is? Me thinks it has something to do with oil.

New World Order here we come.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

You may well be correct Tiggler. Oil.

If you can believe news reports, 19 of 20 people directly involved in the 9/11 bombings were Saudi Arabian.

But i don't recall the Yanks bombing Saudi Arabia?

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"I am not being funny but how do we know al qaeda done 9/11.

So if Osama and al qaeda did not do 9/11 who did?

He made a later video talking about his inspiration for 9/11, bombed out apartment blocks in Lebanon I think it was. "

That video is fake. If you re-watch the video and compare it to a known photo of Osama Bin Laden you will see the difference. In the video Osama writes something with his right hand. Osama is left handed. Lastly the so called Osama in the video is wearing a watch. Wearing jewellery is forbidden for Muslims.

At the end of the day 99.9% of Muslims are peace loving.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Let's try a different perspectice on this shall we?

I recall a radio broadcast a day or so after 9/11. An American father, speaking of the loss of his son, recalled how his son, by all accounts a decent family man, took the weekly Boston to LA flight.

So that he could work for Raytheon. Who amongst other things make Missile Systems.

How many innocent civilians have Raytheon missiles killed in their time?

And the recent use of drones?

The usual red herring of an argument. The use of drones, when it does go wrong, results in few casualties due to the localised and relatively confined nature of the weapon - its no cluster bomb for sure. It's designed as an intelligence led precision strike weapon. If the targets happen to be innocent civilians, which admittedly does happen then that is an unintended and regrettable outcome. The point is, mass murder of innocent non-combatants IS the intended outcome for Bin Laden's cronies, be they arms manufacturers workers or accountants or travel agents.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i don't see how this makes the word any safer. Al quiada (sp?) are not a political party but an ideology,with a cell structure simular to the IRA.He was a figure head ,all that will change i that there will now be a series of revenge attacks.

The great man view of history is never valid but governments like it because hate figures are easy to use to scare the pubic.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"I am not being funny but how do we know al qaeda done 9/11.

So if Osama and al qaeda did not do 9/11 who did?

He made a later video talking about his inspiration for 9/11, bombed out apartment blocks in Lebanon I think it was.

At the end of the day 99.9% of Muslims are peace loving. "

Yes, I agree, Islam is essentially a peace loving religion. However, it has been hijacked by the extremists for their own twisted ends.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

You may well be correct Tiggler. Oil.

If you can believe news reports, 19 of 20 people directly involved in the 9/11 bombings were Saudi Arabian.

But i don't recall the Yanks bombing Saudi Arabia?"

Not yet. EVERY dictator or ruling royal family in the Middle East is coming down. The Saudi royal family may think they are safe and all the uprisings happening on other Middle East countries won't happen in Saudi Arabia but they are wrong.

If you think petrol and oil prices are high now wait until it kicks off in Saudi Arabia and they cut of their oil supply to the West. At the moment Brent crude oil is $125 a barrel and rising. Experts are saying when it kicks off in Saudi Arabia expect that price to go to $200 - $300.

If you really want to know what is going on have a look at Gerald Celente on his you tube channel. He is the worlds top trends forecaster.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"i don't see how this makes the word any safer. Al quiada (sp?) are not a political party but an ideology,with a cell structure simular to the IRA.He was a figure head ,all that will change i that there will now be a series of revenge attacks.

The great man view of history is never valid but governments like it because hate figures are easy to use to scare the pubic.

Yes there will be revenge attacks but Bin Laden's death is, nevertheless, a victory.

He became a 'mythical' figure in the eyes of his followers and those on the bandwagon. The view was that he was untouchable and the Americans will never get him. He was admired and used as inspiration for that reason.

However, he's now dead.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Glad he's dead. As Margaret Thatcher once said, rejoice.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

Another good film to watch free on you Google video is America freedom to fascism. It is made by film producer Aaron Russo. One of his other films is trading places.

In this film Aaron describes how he became friends with David Rockefeller before 9/11 happened. In it he says how Rockefeller tells him how they are going to have American troops looking for this mysterious Bin Laden in caves. Rockefeller was laughing as he told Arron this.

Also by the end of 2012 the dollar will be worthless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the average Iraqi who looks at what's happened in his country over the last decade would debate this with you.

Not just Iraqi's., there are a number of people, myself included, who would have Tony Blair done for war crimes.

Except of course, the "west" are the Judge, Jury and evidence.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here. There have been civilians killed as a consequence of military action by coalition forces but I think.........

its an interesting question... so i looked up the font of all knowledge "wikipedia" and looked up Al-Qaeda in Iraq...

so.... 2600 people, that would be a lot of innocent iraqi civilians to be killed by the colition forces to even catch up with the iraqi chapter of AQ

puts it into some prospective "

2600 people in 5 years, terrible. Lets never underestimate that each of those people is a mother father son daughter. AQ is rightly vilified.

But....the IBC project reported that by April 2003, (in less than a two months period, it started March 2003), 7299 innocent civilians were killed 'primarily by U.S. air and ground forces' in Iraq alone.

Other reports would have you believe the figure is much higher.

Perspective? Maybe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".................

At the end of the day 99.9% of Muslims are peace loving. "

Just how many, in actual numbers, is 0.1% of Muslims? 10? 100? 1,000? 1,000,000? 10,000,000? More?

How many people does it take to cause an explosion?

99.9% (OK, I made that up) of Roman Catholic priests don't have sex with children. So?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"Glad he's dead. As Margaret Thatcher once said, rejoice."

i do not see any death ,even thatcher as reason to rejoice.Dehumanising ppl is the road to fascism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i wonder who is going to be the next terrorist the americans r going to fund and supply weapons to.

the americans r only in places like iraq and lybia to stir up trouble so the price of oil will rise and they make money off the taxes on it.

so really who is the biggest terrorist in the world?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have been up since 4am when i got a million and one calls telling me i ought to be up to watch what was about to be announced...

I had a side in this... as most of you know i lost 6 darn good friends.... and how do i feel....

relief.... justice... a sense of pain for what they went thru....

that man and his various "organisations" killed a who ton of innocent people....

i am not a fan of "eye for an eye"... i believe that he got his eventually...."

I agree with you.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Glad he's dead. As Margaret Thatcher once said, rejoice.

i do not see any death ,even thatcher as reason to rejoice.Dehumanising ppl is the road to fascism."

The islamists are the fascists. They stamp out all dissent, kill opponents, kill other muslims and Christians alike. They show no mercy. Rejoice that their leadr is dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Glad he's dead. As Margaret Thatcher once said, rejoice.

i do not see any death ,even thatcher as reason to rejoice.Dehumanising ppl is the road to fascism."

That's pretty much what Martin Luther King said. I see his point.

I don't agree with his contention that love is the solution but I accept that taking away a man's ability to fight you is OK whilst not taking his life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The great man view of history is never valid but governments like it because hate figures are easy to use to scare the pubic.

Great post.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"i wonder who is going to be the next terrorist the americans r going to fund and supply weapons to.

the americans r only in places like iraq and lybia to stir up trouble so the price of oil will rise and they make money off the taxes on it.

so really who is the biggest terrorist in the world?"

You are sort of right. All these uprisings in Middle East countries have been funded by the US. The aim is to disrupt the oily supply so the price of oil and petrol skyrockets.

Another things is when the dollar dies next year all these middle east countries will be pissed off as they trade in oil in dollars. These countries are going to go from being very rich to being very poor and in a very short space of time. Well unless they start dumping any dollars they have. Do you think they will be happy?

Most Americans do not know what is about to hit them. In a year or so most American will be going hungry. Not because of a shortage of food but because they will be too poor to but it.

In America currently 44 million families are so poor they receive food stamps (stamps off the government to buy food). There are also 20 million empty homes due to repossession and people being to poor to buy a home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i wonder who is going to be the next terrorist the americans r going to fund and supply weapons to.

the americans r only in places like iraq and lybia to stir up trouble so the price of oil will rise and they make money off the taxes on it.

so really who is the biggest terrorist in the world?

You are sort of right. All these uprisings in Middle East countries have been funded by the US. The aim is to disrupt the oily supply so the price of oil and petrol skyrockets.

Most Americans do not know what is about to hit them. In a year or so most American will be going hungry. Not because of a shortage of food but because they will be too poor to but it.

how is the dollar going to die next year?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i wonder who is going to be the next terrorist the americans r going to fund and supply weapons to.

the americans r only in places like iraq and lybia to stir up trouble so the price of oil will rise and they make money off the taxes on it.

so really who is the biggest terrorist in the world?"

The price of a barrel of oil is not linked to the amount of tax on fuel the Americans impose on their domestic Market. I don't agree with your argument.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

A good quote from Gerald Celente

"What a lot of people don't realise is we are now seeing the start of the 3rd world war. World war one didn't start with the killing of Franz Ferdinand and his wife in Sarajevo. There was a lot of small bush fires in the years before that. The killing of Franz Ferdinand and his wife was the main fire that kicked off world war 1. With the current currency and trade wars, the uprisings in the middle east etc we are witnessing the bush fires of World War 3. World War 3 is coming and you had better be prepared"

No you may think Gerald is a doom monger or just wants to frighten people but he just says how he sees it.

Gerald does not claim to be psychic or a prophet. He bases all his predictions on things like what the governments are telling us, what is happening in the real world, what has happened in the past etc. He has accurately predicted things like stock market crashes, the prime mortgage scandal, the dot com bubble, the dotcom burst etc. He really knows his stuff. All the top American news outlets look to Gerald when they want to know what the future brings.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"i wonder who is going to be the next terrorist the americans r going to fund and supply weapons to.

the americans r only in places like iraq and lybia to stir up trouble so the price of oil will rise and they make money off the taxes on it.

so really who is the biggest terrorist in the world?

The price of a barrel of oil is not linked to the amount of tax on fuel the Americans impose on their domestic Market. I don't agree with your argument. "

Neither do I

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Me neither. Enlightenment values - which we all benefit from - are under attack and I'm glad we have the US to fight back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"how is the dollar going to die next year?"

A lot of people think the dollar will soon be replaced as the world's reserve currency because of the rising economy or the East. In effect causing the dollar to die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

theres a lot more going on than simple parlour tricks

the north american union

the asian union

the european union

the african union

all reasonably long term but some have gained much ground so far

and in time - its very easy to merge 4 currencies into one

really the world already exists in the single currency of debt

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"i wonder who is going to be the next terrorist the americans r going to fund and supply weapons to.

the americans r only in places like iraq and lybia to stir up trouble so the price of oil will rise and they make money off the taxes on it.

so really who is the biggest terrorist in the world?

You are sort of right. All these uprisings in Middle East countries have been funded by the US. The aim is to disrupt the oily supply so the price of oil and petrol skyrockets.

Most Americans do not know what is about to hit them. In a year or so most American will be going hungry. Not because of a shortage of food but because they will be too poor to but it.

how is the dollar going to die next year?"

I don't know how much you already know about things so excuse me if I tell you things you already know.

Ok things like this get planned years in advance. This plan started in the 1970’s. George Bush junior passed a law in America to create the North American Union. It is similar to the European Union. It will be America, Mexico and Canada joined together. The planned currency is the Amero. Now when Bush passed this law he did not take it to congress or the American people he just passed it. He behaved like a dictator. The people planning all this know how much the Americans love the dollar and the symbolism of it. Thus they also know no way would the American people accept changing their currency from the Dollar to the Amero.

So the plan is to destroy the dollar and have the Americans begging the government to bring in a new currency. As I have said this was planned in the 70’s. Around that time the American government made a deal with the oil producing countries. America has a lot of untapped oil fields. They promised the Middle East counties they would not start drilling any new fields in America but only if they agreed to trade oil in Dollars. Remember when the Americans made this deal with the oil producing countries they knew one day they would be killing the dollar. They were having them off basically. Those countries are going to be so pissed off when the dollar dies and they become poor overnight. The true currency of the world is gold.

So back to what is happening now. The dollar is already dying and other countries are getting wise to it. I don't know if you know this but most governments will have reserve currency. Think of it as the government having a savings account for emergencies. Most counties have their reserve currency in Dollars. If you look around on the web you will see news reports of countries like Russia switching their reserve currency away from Dollars. They know the Dollar is dying.

Also in America prices are already rising sharply. This is not because of traditional inflation. It is because the purchasing power of the dollar abroad is decreasing. For example one week a pack of toilet rolls was $6 the next week it was $9. One week a bulb of garlic went up by 100%. So by destroying the Dollar America will have massive hyper inflation. There will be no shortage of food but most people will be too poor to buy it. By the end of 2012 the Americans will be begging the government to bring in a new currency and make things affordable again. As luck would have it they have a currency ready called the Amero. If you search Google images you will see pictures of the new Amero currency.

Of course after the **** hits the fan in America we will be greatly affected also.

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

Can't believe some peeps are taking out Bins on Bank Holiday...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wooo tiggler

indeed

other things to bear in mind folks is the US and us lovely UK buddies totally backed funded and aided mr Saddam to kick the shit out of Iran

specifically Khuzestan in Iran - get in there saddam and take that bastard southern state

but saddam failed big time

and we well - we withdrew being chums - and took the huff

saddam said - is that right? ill give you a kick in the nuts then - and set light to our oil in kuwait

which was a real kick in the balls

and then he switched all his oil from dollars - to euros

enough was enough

911 and invaaaaaaaaaaaade - hoooray - the worlds 2nd largest oil reserve is in our hands - coom by ya me lord and all that

now

ooooo lets go back to that old unsettled thing that saddam fucked up

khuzestan has ..................

the 4th largest oil reserve on earth

and Iran are trading in .............

Euros!

oooooooooo we cant have that - Iran have nukes - they are crazy - they love terrorists - they take it up the arse on the first date

weeeeeeeeeeee must stop them!

as well as securing thier oil fields

Iran are persians very very very clever

the threat they could chuck a nuke at israel? eh no cos - they would get bombed into the stone age and fucked - you want to believe the news that a country is totally suicidal well oks

but what could you do with a nuke

stick it smack bang in the middle of your oilfields - and then dare someone to try and take it

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By *ax the gentle GiantMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Bin Laden is dead so what one man dies and we all make such a hype about it what about the coutnless hundereds of thousands of innocent people around the world that have died as a result of phoney wars properganda and nonsense that these politicians all belch out.

I would not be supprised that in the next few days something is planned and that it takes effect big style with the help of the goverments and they blame this on terroists and knee jerk reaction to this will be us normal citizens who have no influence on policy or agenda haveing out civil liberties cut back even further and it gets even harder to survive becuse we stand up aginst tyrants and oppresive regimes the media is full of dirty tricks and manipulation.

On a parting note pre 1990 Osama was deemed a good man and ally of the USA he was a CIA agent whilst he had his use and was prepared to sacrifice his life in the american cause he was the man what he allegedly plotted there after was unforgivable but does no one mention that the Bush family recived 1.3 billion dollars from the bin laden family from 1990 to 2004 or is there money ok to have i wounder ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Great news, hopefully the world will be a safer place to live now."

You have got to be joking?

Personally right now id sooner be anywhere than America

You really think his martyrs are going to let this go?

Bloody will be spilt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Indeed Osama was a hero of the muhajadeen - a freedom fighter - and we loved him cos he killed commies - so we got help with israel egypt and pakistan to give him stinger missiles and better anti aircraft to destroy those nasty russian hind helicopters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just wait folks for the news event to blow away 911

the rucksack nuke is out there

2 3 maybe 4 city blocks

but enough to enable a state of emergency and bring back conscription in these days of high unemployment

you cannot take Iran from the air - and your gonna need a lot of boots to get that wee pool of oil

tick tick tick tick tick boooooooom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and to be more scary

iraq and afghan is just training so the regulars can then have the experience to manage the sign ups the volunteers and the conscripted

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"Glad he's dead. As Margaret Thatcher once said, rejoice.

i do not see any death ,even thatcher as reason to rejoice.Dehumanising ppl is the road to fascism.

The islamists are the fascists. They stamp out all dissent, kill opponents, kill other muslims and Christians alike. They show no mercy. Rejoice that their leadr is dead"

Rejoicing in anothers death may be something you enjoy,i shall refrain thank you.

There are extremist adherents of many faiths,the attitude that others deserve to die fuels them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The islamists are the fascists. They stamp out all dissent, kill opponents, kill other muslims and Christians alike. They show no mercy. Rejoice that their leadr is dead

lets narrow it down to our soldiers - who will kill and kill and destroy for a very simple reason - to get home - cos the bastard in front of them is doing the same

the germans the japanese - the vietnamese - were not all fascist devils - they all had family - they all felt as we do - love

they fought for their own goals and desires and needs - yet were the enemy to others

as every brit n american out there now is - they are an enemy - and they are in front of an enemy

their hearts - their laughter - their joy is all the same - on both sides those men women too - want to see their children again - want to be home

they are put in the position where they must kill to see that

its very simple to them - those bastards on the other side of the line must die at all costs - no matter what

dont you believe for a minute us good guys kill nice

and consider the partnerships of soldiers - not many if any will want to come home without legs arms or beyond recognition - and they rely on their pals to do whats right

so consider that as well in any soldier who may through a promise - have to not only kill the enemy - but make sure his mate goes home with a flag

not a nice position for either side to be in - despite the conspiracy - the bullshit - the politics - people are dying for it

but not for it

for each other and what they hold dear to themselves

and want to protect - its not fascism its not hate - its not racism - its the insanity of valour for any soldier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The islamists are the fascists. They stamp out all dissent, kill opponents, kill other muslims and Christians alike. They show no mercy. Rejoice that their leadr is dead"

Shows naievety and a total lack of understanding of the situation, both in Afghan and worldwide. But ok.

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

"
It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared.

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over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared."

Taking it on yourself to go uninvited into another country and assassinating him wasn't an execution?!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm shedding no tears for Bin Laden - a very evil man, but let's not pretend it wasn't an execution.

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over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared.

Taking it on yourself to go uninvited into another country and assassinating him wasn't an execution?!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm shedding no tears for Bin Laden - a very evil man, but let's not pretend it wasn't an execution. "
Right or wrong to do it, this man had declared war and was training people against us. So no i don't call it an execution it was a military exercise for me. He died firing shots from behind his now late wife that's not a summary execution it's a fire fight.

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over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared.

Taking it on yourself to go uninvited into another country and assassinating him wasn't an execution?!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm shedding no tears for Bin Laden - a very evil man, but let's not pretend it wasn't an execution. Right or wrong to do it, this man had declared war and was training people against us. So no i don't call it an execution it was a military exercise for me. He died firing shots from behind his now late wife that's not a summary execution it's a fire fight. "

Following that logic, was 9/11 a military exercise as part of an act of war too? Was OBL a terrorist or a soldier?

In my opinion 9/11 was an atrocity. OBL was executed in his home with his wife and kid.

I'm happy they caught him, but I wish they'd put him before the courts. As I said earlier, maybe I'm naive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ummmm....

If anything untoward should befall Bill Gates.... Will all computers stop working...?

{ Just a thought... }

luv it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bin Laden dead..How many times is that now..8?..9?. The first report of his death goes back to December 2001

Millions of dollars and the destruction of the tora bora caves and where do they find him? in his house.where it seems he's been for 6 years. a six foot five Arab and no-one spotted him.and then they quickly put him in the sea..yeah ok!

RIP Tim Osman

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over a year ago

i don't believe it for a minute...not if the navy seals were involved.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i don't believe it for a minute...not if the navy seals were involved."

Wasn't it US Navy SEALs who killed Linda Norgrove?

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over a year ago

"i don't believe it for a minute...not if the navy seals were involved.

Wasn't it US Navy SEALs who killed Linda Norgrove?"

...apparently they only do things by accident...they couldn't possibly successfully perform a deliberate attempt on someones life

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By *aryDafiMan
over a year ago

Tripple e

"Bin Laden dead..How many times is that now..8?..9?. The first report of his death goes back to December 2001

RIP Tim Osman"

I love the conspiracy theory’s they always make me laugh but I think this time he is dead. But who knows he may end up working down the local chip shop with Sadam, Michael Jackson and Elvis.

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over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared."

Unarmed......this is starting to look more than a little questionable in the eyes of anyone who respects international law.

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over a year ago

I love the conspiracy theory’s they always make me laugh but I think this time he is dead. But who knows he may end up working down the local chip shop with Sadam, Michael Jackson and Elvis."

Conspiracy theories or not - if several dozen heavily armed and well-trained men cannot overpower one elderly man, a woman and a couple of kids - questions have to be asked of US not-so Special Forces.

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over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared.

Unarmed......this is starting to look more than a little questionable in the eyes of anyone who respects international law. "

The question of whether you actually have a weapon in your hand when challenged/ killed isn't relevant.

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over a year ago

"My congratulations go to the big brave Americans for the summary execution of an elderly man whose guilt has never been proven.

It wasn't an execution. He was killed in a firefight whilst fighting back. Not that innocent if you watch his videos or read the fatwas he (illegally) declared.

Unarmed......this is starting to look more than a little questionable in the eyes of anyone who respects international law.

The question of whether you actually have a weapon in your hand when challenged/ killed isn't relevant."

On the contrary, it's very relevant. If there isn't an element of self defence or fear of an immediate direct threat to the individual that shot him or his country then it's illegal under international law. Fact.

It becomes more difficult to prove an immediate threat from an unarmed individual, especially when your heavily armed!

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over a year ago

I love the conspiracy theory’s they always make me laugh but I think this time he is dead. But who knows he may end up working down the local chip shop with Sadam, Michael Jackson and Elvis.

I think there was many more than 3 of them in there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It becomes more difficult to prove an immediate threat from an unarmed individual, especially when your heavily armed! "

Fact. Fact? Facts are chiels that winna ding and as soon as someone (anyone) announces that their opinion is a "Fact" it clear they have no other argument.

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over a year ago

cant believe this threads still going lol...hes dead hes not dead, the repurcussions are plenty if he is or if he isnt....like the classic schroedengers cat....do we really know....do we really care...life is moving on, our fears are fears, but doesnt stop us wondering whats on the tv the morra or what we might be gettin up to this weekend(mmmmm)

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over a year ago

"cant believe this threads still going lol...hes dead hes not dead, the repurcussions are plenty if he is or if he isnt....like the classic schroedengers cat....do we really know....do we really care...life is moving on, our fears are fears, but doesnt stop us wondering whats on the tv the morra or what we might be gettin up to this weekend(mmmmm)"

A wank lasts under 5 mins for many so they need to do something with the other 55 mins in an hour. I think though many just want to see the gruesome pictures.

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By *arzan n JaneCouple
over a year ago

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They found and kill Bin Ladden, amazing what the Americans can do when the Playstation 3 networks down lol

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over a year ago

A wank lasts under 5 mins for many so they need to do something with the other 55 mins in an hour. I think though many just want to see the gruesome pictures. "

many just want to see the WMS explode!

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over a year ago

"They found and kill Bin Ladden, amazing what the Americans can do when the Playstation 3 networks down lol"

maybe its false report and it was only in call of duty mod that osama was killed...the graphics are pretty realistic!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dead my arse lol just seen him in the kitchen of my local indian take away making the vindaloo ,i told them to cancel my order as i couldnt handle the thought of it leaving my arse like a scud missile

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over a year ago

It becomes more difficult to prove an immediate threat from an unarmed individual, especially when your heavily armed!

Fact. Fact? Facts are chiels that winna ding and as soon as someone (anyone) announces that their opinion is a "Fact" it clear they have no other argument."

The first part of my post was not my opinion, it's the law. That's why I used the word fact.

The second part of my post is my opinion, and is shared by a number of QC's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He may be dead but watch the aftermath on Britain and the US

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have heard Elton John is going to write a song in his memory its going to be called.... Sandal in the wind

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

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My uncle was also killed by the americans when they raided bin ladens compound. he was staying next door with friends and went round to complain about the noise !!!lol

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

I must admit, I didn't believe this at first as the Americans are notorious liars, but when they changed their statement and confessed that they had executed an unarmed, defenceless elderly man without trial, I was more inclined to think that they're telling the truth. Because they've already disposed of "the body" we will only ever hear what the yanks want us to hear, which is probably nowhere near the actual truth.

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

"I must admit, I didn't believe this at first as the Americans are notorious liars, but when they changed their statement and confessed that they had executed an unarmed, defenceless elderly man without trial, I was more inclined to think that they're telling the truth. Because they've already disposed of "the body" we will only ever hear what the yanks want us to hear, which is probably nowhere near the actual truth."

Dont be silly of course its true Obama said so , so it must be , he wouldnt lie , would he lol

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

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on a seriuos note not sure why people are banging on about "international law" where was "international law" when this guy ordered the slaughter of over 3000 innocent people in the twin towers and thousands of others of all races, religeons all over the world including pakistan and 57 in london on their way to work one sunny morning. make no mistake if he could have nuked any major city in the Uk especially London he would have dome so.

Whe the British PM came back from Munich waving a peice of papre on the steps of downing street saying "peace in our time" it didnt stop the jackboot crushing millions of lives and the holocaust in the next 5 years . If the yanks had gone and shot hitler there and then it would never have happened. at least they did something, where our PM cant even decide what he wants for breakfast !!

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over a year ago

"I have heard Elton John is going to write a song in his memory its going to be called.... Sandal in the wind

"sandals in the bin",i heard

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

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I also found the crowds chanting USA USA distatsteful but hey i havent lost a son or daughter in the inferno of the trade towers, or a brother or son in the killing fields of afghanistan. what bin laden DID do was bring home to the americans the horror of terrorism in their own backyard and made them face up to the eality of what was happening in other parts of the world. as a result the yanks stopped funding the IRA , that more than anything Blair did was bring that to a halt. Yes the yanks can be devious and ham fisted but hey lets be thankful we are their friends and on our side . these are dangerous times we need all the help we can get !!

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over a year ago

"on a seriuos note not sure why people are banging on about "international law" where was "international law" when this guy ordered the slaughter of over 3000 innocent people in the twin towers and thousands of others of all races, religeons all over the world ......"

'International Law' means pretty much whatever Uncle Sam wants it to mean at any given time and no amount of citing unnamed QCs is going to change that.

Over the years assorted US administrations have 'tolerated' the actions of Noraid, or the Israelis or ........... (fill in whatever you wish here) whilst condemning other stuff across the world.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if there aren't Yanks in Libya at this moment looking for Megrahi.

Do they have any basis in 'International Law' for this? Probably not.

Will that stop them? No.

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

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is he actualy dead? I saw a photo of him with a big bandage around his head yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will just make Al-Qaeda all the more determined to wreak havoc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hooo Rawwww

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

omg!!!

cmon ppl. i'm not genius but even i know he is more dangerous dead than alive.

matyrs inspire and to be honest for the last 30yrs i had more to fear from the IRA than this cia funded al quieda or whatever they want to call it.

have we not learnt from history that we will win more with food and friendship than with bullets and bombs.

dont get me wrong. it's good that he is gone but i saw all the celebration in america on the news of his death but how many innocent men, women and children have died where nobody blinked an eye.

troops are dying on foriegn soil so that multinational corporations can come in and gain contracts.

feed the world and end war.

anyone fancy a shag ???

(well i'm a bloke at the end of the day)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the man was a tit, so he was unarmed big deal, bout time we got rid of some crap out of the world.

all those innocent peeps who died through his waped mind.

shame usa didnt get the tit years ago

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

"omg!!!

cmon ppl. i'm not genius but even i know he is more dangerous dead than alive.

matyrs inspire and to be honest for the last 30yrs i had more to fear from the IRA than this cia funded al quieda or whatever they want to call it.

have we not learnt from history that we will win more with food and friendship than with bullets and bombs.

dont get me wrong. it's good that he is gone but i saw all the celebration in america on the news of his death but how many innocent men, women and children have died where nobody blinked an eye.

troops are dying on foriegn soil so that multinational corporations can come in and gain contracts.

feed the world and end war.

anyone fancy a shag ???

(well i'm a bloke at the end of the day)

"
already been done ... its called appeasement. check out your history books circa 1939

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

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we went to war in iraq because tony blair had a dossier that proved saddam hussein had BBW's that could be launched to reach our shores in 5 mins, oops or did he say WMD , Oh sod it lol

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over a year ago

"we went to war in iraq because tony blair had a dossier that proved saddam hussein had BBW's that could be launched to reach our shores in 5 mins, oops or did he say WMD , Oh sod it lol"

Oi cheeky bugger I got my own weapons of mass destruction

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By *rs Sugar Mr SpiceCouple
over a year ago

We are about 15 mins outa Pontypridd and we do go to Crawley in west sussex 2-3 times a year so get in touch !!

Is he dead or have they still got him locked up sumwhere like guantanamo bay and are torchering him to gain more intell ,who knows but ive no doupt that theve had im dead or alive coz it would be political suicide for Obhama to even suggest anything like it publikly but my theiory is that he is still alive locked up some where being poked and prodded ,well i fucking hope so tbh and lest be fair they took 10 yrs to find him ,so many millions ov pounds and dollars numerouse joint British & American special forces conjoined and numerouse casualties,and where did they find him after ,IN HIS FUCKING HOUSE!!!! cummon ffs

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

A couple more posts and this thread will be dead too

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over a year ago

Beeston

A couple more posts and this thread will be dead too

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

BANG! Die thread!

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over a year ago

Beeston

BANG! BANG!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

killed it

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

It's still moving

Oi! Chuck Norris! Kill it!

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Gotchya ya bugger.

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