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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

OK, first up can I just say that this isn't a whinging thread. Just putting some actual numbers to "The Numbers Game".

The background to this came as I was having a chat with a friend about the volume of mail she gets on here. I said that was why I rarely sent messages out any more and why (partly) I go in the forums more as I'm more likely to be noticed. As most speculative first messages on here get lost in the pile.

She was probably flattering me, but said "You're a decent looking bloke, can construct a good message etc, so there's no reason you should be ignored" I said that it was just purely a numbers game.

She still disagreed so for the past few weeks I've been actively sending out speculative first messages and compiling the statistics.

None of the messages were cut and paste types, they included a bit of a link to something in that person's profile and no messages were sent to people that I didn't feel compatible with, or where I didn't fit their requirements. All the recipients were within 10 miles and had been on the site within the past 24 hours. They were also only sent to people I would like to get to know better.

So The Results:

25 messages sent

11 read (44%)

4 deleted no reply

2 thanks but no thanks

1 conversation started

Of the remaining 14 unread,

10 have been on site but not read

2 haven't visited site since

2 have gone UNLOS.

I think I may have proved that it is a numbers game and that it's pretty hard work to get even one conversation started.

Like I said though not whinging, I understand the site dynamics and am happy with what I put into and get out of the site, plus I've chatted to some great people in the forums.

Just thought I'd share!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women are holding all the cards lol.

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By *lla_maiWoman
over a year ago

staffordshire


"Women are holding all the cards lol."

Damn i didnt know we were playing cards too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Women are holding all the cards lol.

Damn i didnt know we were playing cards too "

Maibe some likes to play cards, but not everyone lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's naughty and I shouldn't have done it but I posted a thread recently (pulled after about 2 minutes ) after I set up, for an experiment, a fake female profile just to see if the stories were true about how much mail they got.

In the first 30 minutes after I opened the account, with NO pictures and NO profile text, just the most basic of profiles, I'd had about 50 messages (mostly shocking 'fancy a fuck' or 'I'm free now' with dick pics type bobbins), 5 unsolicited friend requests, well over 100 views, and about 6 winks.

I UNLOSed the account after about an hour and haven't repeated it since (and don't try this at home folks, it's against the rules!) but it kind of opened my eyes a bit as to the sort of rubbish that naive newbies can get until they get filter-savvy. It would be enough to scare a lot of people off.

So you're right - it's definitely a numbers game and, as Shag says, the ladies hold all the cards! (Well most of them anyway!)

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"OK, first up can I just say that this isn't a whinging thread. Just putting some actual numbers to "The Numbers Game".

The background to this came as I was having a chat with a friend about the volume of mail she gets on here. I said that was why I rarely sent messages out any more and why (partly) I go in the forums more as I'm more likely to be noticed. As most speculative first messages on here get lost in the pile.

She was probably flattering me, but said "You're a decent looking bloke, can construct a good message etc, so there's no reason you should be ignored" I said that it was just purely a numbers game.

She still disagreed so for the past few weeks I've been actively sending out speculative first messages and compiling the p.

None of the messages were cut and paste types, they included a bit of a link to something in that person's profile and no messages were sent to people that I didn't feel compatible with, or where I didn't fit their requirements. All the recipients were within 10 miles and had been on the site within the past 24 hours. They were also only sent to people I would like to get to know better.

So The Results:

25 messages sent

11 read (44%)

4 deleted no reply

2 thanks but no thanks

1 conversation started

Of the remaining 14 unread,

10 have been on site but not read

2 haven't visited site since

2 have gone UNLOS.

I think I may have proved that it is a numbers game and that it's pretty hard work to get even one conversation started.

Like I said though not whinging, I understand the site dynamics and am happy with what I put into and get out of the site, plus I've chatted to some great people in the forums.

Just thought I'd share!"

Op in my opinion your approach of not approaching through messages but instead using the forums to advertise you exist is the correct one .

I do exactly the same apart from I do message the odd person based off of a status update .

This approach of only messaging about forum post or waiting for someone to message you based again off of forum posts works .

I'm not desperate not hard up for friends so I use the site in this way and like I said you know what it works surprisingly well .

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

Yep, one of the reasons why I don't bother with that method anymore.

I too just hang around the forums now and chat to people that way. Thankfully it's also possible to get meets through the forums as well if you're lucky.

There's many ways to use the site. I guess the key is to find a way you're happy and comfortable with.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Women are holding all the cards lol."

Not true shag, depends upon ones arrogance xxx

I hold all the cards, if a female profile shows no interest she is not for me , I have no loss

If they do show interest I decide if they are worthy of meeting me.. it's win win

However with such power comes great responsibility xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

That's the key, is making the site work for your own personality and tastes. Im probably lucky in that I was on this site and others as part of a couple, so had some insight as to what worked and what didn't from a different point of view.

And at the end of the day, it's only a distraction from real life!

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By *icassolifelikeMan
over a year ago

Luton

Applied mathematics. I like it!!

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By *lla_maiWoman
over a year ago

staffordshire

So as women hold the cards whos up for strip poker (im guarenteed to win being the dealer)

Sorry sidetracked, as you were

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Applied mathematics. I like it!! "

I love stats, I'm surprised that I haven't put it in spreadsheet form and compared it with my results across other sites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Women are holding all the cards lol.

Not true shag, depends upon ones arrogance xxx

I hold all the cards, if a female profile shows no interest she is not for me , I have no loss

If they do show interest I decide if they are worthy of meeting me.. it's win win

However with such power comes great responsibility xxx "

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"Women are holding all the cards lol."

No they don't, there are a lot I wouldn't be interested in.

Lot of prima that wouldn't stimulate a brain cell.

However the fun, open ladies are stunning.

I like desperation, the responses make great filters.

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By *axandbooCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

If we are referring to chances of a response then to use a saying

"If you had enough chimps, typing then sooner or later one will type the works of shakespear"

In short send enough your gonna get something back

For things to work as an "experiment" you would need several profiles covering all types of profile as a single man.

Then send messages to all the same women or couples and see the responses back.

Otherwise we are talking about just your inbox habits. Which to be fair shows that again, enough messages sent will get something back

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By *wingsntoysCouple
over a year ago

Norwich / Portsmouth

While the genuine guys have to post and do all the work of writing Shakespeare 200x times over, the ladies have to drudge through endless smutt zombies, and die under the tiresome mind numbing weight of the unending soulous revelation of dry smegma. So you can argue that balances. Just Like two turds on a stick really.

L had a single profile - she gave up after a few weeks. I've ( like many others) had to deal with alot of very talentless single males. Some posing as wimin...

A solution would be for the greater mass of serious daters to always reply to mindles smutt zombies and spammers

with a carefully crafted, cleaverly generalised and a bit long, but teasing, sucking in - cut and paste - pile of retorical pisstaking shit.

But the majority would have to do the this as a response.

Then spammers would have to read a complicated minefield far bigger than they had sown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's naughty and I shouldn't have done it but I posted a thread recently (pulled after about 2 minutes ) after I set up, for an experiment, a fake female profile just to see if the stories were true about how much mail they got.

In the first 30 minutes after I opened the account, with NO pictures and NO profile text, just the most basic of profiles, I'd had about 50 messages (mostly shocking 'fancy a fuck' or 'I'm free now' with dick pics type bobbins), 5 unsolicited friend requests, well over 100 views, and about 6 winks.

I UNLOSed the account after about an hour and haven't repeated it since (and don't try this at home folks, it's against the rules!) but it kind of opened my eyes a bit as to the sort of rubbish that naive newbies can get until they get filter-savvy. It would be enough to scare a lot of people off.

So you're right - it's definitely a numbers game and, as Shag says, the ladies hold all the cards! (Well most of them anyway!)"

I did that too late one Saturday night (sorry admin!) no pics, gave myself a really slutty name, and said I was looking for guys to take part in a bareback gangbang. The sheer volume of responses was astounding! I had over 300 in the first hour (including one from a guy I'd been chatting to who assured me he was always safe ) and almost 800 by the time I deleted the profile around 4 hours later.

A real eye opener for me

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"Women are holding all the cards lol."

they only hold all the cards with the sad desperate will fuck anything with a pulse type of guy .

no one pulls my strings treat me with respect as a human being and then I may look at you as a potential meet,

failure to do that and well its like this you maybe the last couple on the planet or the last female but I still would not be interested in meeting you if your failed to treat me with respect .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So as women hold the cards whos up for strip poker (im guarenteed to win being the dealer)

Sorry sidetracked, as you were "

That is good a game too and yes, you would win

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I did a similar thing a couple of years ago and sent a range of fancy a fuck type messages to men I fancied and would quite like to fuck.

OP, your approach was more successful as you achieved one conversation.

My messages were either ignored (well, you can read 'fancy a fuck' without opening it), deleted or I was blocked.

I wasn't issued with these cards we're supposed to be holding.

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By *radleywigginsMan
over a year ago

northwest


"OK, first up can I just say that this isn't a whinging thread. Just putting some actual numbers to "The Numbers Game".

The background to this came as I was having a chat with a friend about the volume of mail she gets on here. I said that was why I rarely sent messages out any more and why (partly) I go in the forums more as I'm more likely to be noticed. As most speculative first messages on here get lost in the pile.

She was probably flattering me, but said "You're a decent looking bloke, can construct a good message etc, so there's no reason you should be ignored" I said that it was just purely a numbers game.

She still disagreed so for the past few weeks I've been actively sending out speculative first messages and compiling the statistics.

None of the messages were cut and paste types, they included a bit of a link to something in that person's profile and no messages were sent to people that I didn't feel compatible with, or where I didn't fit their requirements. All the recipients were within 10 miles and had been on the site within the past 24 hours. They were also only sent to people I would like to get to know better.

So The Results:

25 messages sent

11 read (44%)

4 deleted no reply

2 thanks but no thanks

1 conversation started

Of the remaining 14 unread,

10 have been on site but not read

2 haven't visited site since

2 have gone UNLOS.

I think I may have proved that it is a numbers game and that it's pretty hard work to get even one conversation started.

Like I said though not whinging, I understand the site dynamics and am happy with what I put into and get out of the site, plus I've chatted to some great people in the forums.

Just thought I'd share!"

In the interest of scientific methodology..

Can we have some more numbers..?

So 1 out of 11 of your well constructed personalised messages that were read generated a conversation...

In the same time how many people previously unknown to you have initiated a conversation with you through a PM as a result of a forum post?

And how many of these are from within 10 miles, and you feel compatible with them, and you fit their requirements?

I think the answer to the last question will be a gauge of comparative success between the cold messaging and forum posting methods.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OK, first up can I just say that this isn't a whinging thread. Just putting some actual numbers to "The Numbers Game".

The background to this came as I was having a chat with a friend about the volume of mail she gets on here. I said that was why I rarely sent messages out any more and why (partly) I go in the forums more as I'm more likely to be noticed. As most speculative first messages on here get lost in the pile.

She was probably flattering me, but said "You're a decent looking bloke, can construct a good message etc, so there's no reason you should be ignored" I said that it was just purely a numbers game.

She still disagreed so for the past few weeks I've been actively sending out speculative first messages and compiling the statistics.

None of the messages were cut and paste types, they included a bit of a link to something in that person's profile and no messages were sent to people that I didn't feel compatible with, or where I didn't fit their requirements. All the recipients were within 10 miles and had been on the site within the past 24 hours. They were also only sent to people I would like to get to know better.

So The Results:

25 messages sent

11 read (44%)

4 deleted no reply

2 thanks but no thanks

1 conversation started

Of the remaining 14 unread,

10 have been on site but not read

2 haven't visited site since

2 have gone UNLOS.

I think I may have proved that it is a numbers game and that it's pretty hard work to get even one conversation started.

Like I said though not whinging, I understand the site dynamics and am happy with what I put into and get out of the site, plus I've chatted to some great people in the forums.

Just thought I'd share!

In the interest of scientific methodology..

Can we have some more numbers..?

So 1 out of 11 of your well constructed personalised messages that were read generated a conversation...

In the same time how many people previously unknown to you have initiated a conversation with you through a PM as a result of a forum post?

And how many of these are from within 10 miles, and you feel compatible with them, and you fit their requirements?

I think the answer to the last question will be a gauge of comparative success between the cold messaging and forum posting methods.

"

Within 10 miles, 2. If I broaden it to within 20, then 6.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had a number of profiles over the years. Every time I've set one up I've had between 500 - 900 messages within a few hours. Always from the same saddos and that's without me putting pics up or any text. Now these fellas prey on newbies. It's discusting and really bad for the site. I know the score. Regular newbies don't so it's no wonder there are so few genuine new women.

Even now looking back over my messages the last 20 - 3 were from friends the rest messages from idiots who don't read profiles (only got filters off cos going to social tonight).

So yes it's definitely a numbers game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Taking notes. ...so i need to remove all my pics, have a slutty name and advertise for a bareback gangbang?

The forum is a mine if useful profile advice for those struggling to attract. Thanks all

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