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 . But then I'm such a wimp that I can't even watch a scary movie.
I used to read tarot and well too but I even gave that up after a few close calls with interpretations as it was spooking me out. | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... " Hi OP. I'd be really interested to hear what prompted you to make this post.. | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Hi OP. I'd be really interested to hear what prompted you to make this post.." No particular reason other than I was talking to someone at the weekend about it - briefly. I've not dabbled. | |||
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"Bollocks except for the fact that our unconscious minds have enormous potential to influence things outside of our awareness. " This is my opinion. I've messes with them and can't explain the weird shit that happened | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Hi OP. I'd be really interested to hear what prompted you to make this post.. No particular reason other than I was talking to someone at the weekend about it - briefly. I've not dabbled. " Whatever the reason this probably falls into the category of (reasonably) intelligent conversation though so have a pat on the back for starting this!  | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Hi OP. I'd be really interested to hear what prompted you to make this post.. No particular reason other than I was talking to someone at the weekend about it - briefly. I've not dabbled. " Thanks for that. My pals and I messed with them when we were 12 or so. Scared the shit out of me. There isn't a bargepole long enough for me to touch another ouija board. | |||
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"Anything originally made by Waddingtons can't exactly be the occult. " No it wasn't. Elija Bond made the first ouija board not John Waddington | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... " Hang on, I'll go ask.... . B . O . L . L . O . C . K . S . Gosh, who knew? 
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"Never mess with the dark side *light sabre noises heard off in the distance*" She's right, (even slightly sexy the way she quotes StarWars )
Don't mess with shit you don't understand. If your ignorant, don't mess. If your a sceptic, don't mess. If you believe in this stuff, certainly do your homework and then...don't mess.
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"Bollocks except for the fact that our unconscious minds have enormous potential to influence things outside of our awareness. This is my opinion. I've messes with them and can't explain the weird shit that happened " Me too. | |||
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"Never mess with the dark side *light sabre noises heard off in the distance* She's right, (even slightly sexy the way she quotes StarWars )
Don't mess with shit you don't understand. If your ignorant, don't mess. If your a sceptic, don't mess. If you believe in this stuff, certainly do your homework and then...don't mess.
Everyone else, knock yourselves out. You'll be alright. "I agree don,t mess or theres every chance of a dark entity which will move in .. | |||
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"In my experience of one they are legitimate scary shit. I moved home after poltergeist activity started after using one in my old flat. I had lived there with no occurrences for 5 years before using that stupid board "for a laugh" " Have to admit curvy I am curious about this story. Back on topic OP I would like to believe, I remember being involved in something at primary school regarding a moving glass but it wasn't a conventional board and when it moved on its own we all stopped! | |||
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"I belive and id never mess with a Ouija board unless in a controlled environment. I go to a spiritualist church once a week to receive any messages my loved ones both in spirit and here on earth may have for me. Xxx" To be fair I should do this. My grandma in particular was a a keen believer and I should visit a spiritualist church sometime. | |||
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"About to tattoo one on my back to lure ghosts into scratching it." Or s tattoo above my cock. That just has..... YES. NO.  | |||
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"It's like god (I'm not going into that one) But if he does exist. And us non believers don't think he does. He still exists. So at the end of your life you have to answer to the dude. If spirits exist, there are bad spirits also. And they still exist if you believe or not. So why would you as a 'non believer' take s chance on letting these things into you life? Don't mess with it. " Does the same principle apply with monster that (I don't believe..) lives under my bed? I'm taking no chances! | |||
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"In my experience of one they are legitimate scary shit. I moved home after poltergeist activity started after using one in my old flat. I had lived there with no occurrences for 5 years before using that stupid board "for a laugh" " Jackanory | |||
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"... He still exists. So at the end of your life you have to answer to the dude. " Why would we have to answer to him? If he wanted us to all live a certain way, I'm sure in his infinite wisdom (If he exists, which he doesn't) then he could have created us to live in such a way. Now, if he does, by the time I'll get there he will already know my _iews about him and my replies to whatever questions he may have. So there won't actually be a need to even see him. | |||
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"It's like god (I'm not going into that one) But if he does exist. And us non believers don't think he does. He still exists. So at the end of your life you have to answer to the dude. If spirits exist, there are bad spirits also. And they still exist if you believe or not. So why would you as a 'non believer' take s chance on letting these things into you life? Don't mess with it. Does the same principle apply with monster that (I don't believe..) lives under my bed? I'm taking no chances! " I never thought I had a monster under my bed. Soft arse. | |||
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"... He still exists. So at the end of your life you have to answer to the dude. Why would we have to answer to him? If he wanted us to all live a certain way, I'm sure in his infinite wisdom (If he exists, which he doesn't) then he could have created us to live in such a way. Now, if he does, by the time I'll get there he will already know my _iews about him and my replies to whatever questions he may have. So there won't actually be a need to even see him. " I don't get into to talking about God. That's for another thread I'm sure. I used him/her/it as an example to refer to my next paragraph. | |||
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"It's like god (I'm not going into that one) But if he does exist. And us non believers don't think he does. He still exists. So at the end of your life you have to answer to the dude. If spirits exist, there are bad spirits also. And they still exist if you believe or not. So why would you as a 'non believer' take s chance on letting these things into you life? Don't mess with it. " I believe there are good and bad spirits but depending on how powerful and bad they are they can come across into this realm over good spirits anytime given the chance as from the board you could say its almost like a lock with a key as someone mentioned earlier a spiritual church would be the right way to make any contact where it is controlled and the safest way. | |||
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"Anything originally made by Waddingtons can't exactly be the occult. " Yeh just like if you read Disney fairy tales to the kiddies all will be well...oh and watch TOTP | |||
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"... He still exists. So at the end of your life you have to answer to the dude. Why would we have to answer to him? If he wanted us to all live a certain way, I'm sure in his infinite wisdom (If he exists, which he doesn't) then he could have created us to live in such a way. Now, if he does, by the time I'll get there he will already know my _iews about him and my replies to whatever questions he may have. So there won't actually be a need to even see him. " A lot of people start to believe they are totally independent but they all cry out for God when in real pain that money can't fix..just an observation | |||
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"It's probably not a good idea. Even if one think sits a load of bollocks, why take a chance that it might not be? No one knows for sure one way or the other. I'd prefer to err on the side of caution. And have a wank. "  except the wank bit | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... " Been on a couple of ghost hunt nights and have witnessed a few of these in use. My friend actually participated and what happened was definitely real. Definitely left me with a lot of questions ! | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Been on a couple of ghost hunt nights and have witnessed a few of these in use. My friend actually participated and what happened was definitely real. Definitely left me with a lot of questions !" Share the experience please, we are fascinated by this stuff | |||
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"When me and my friends were young teens we used to dabble a bit until a particularly scary event put us off. Not touched one since "Tell us about this event then.....we love a bit of scary stuff | |||
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"I belive and id never mess with a Ouija board unless in a controlled environment. I go to a spiritualist church once a week to receive any messages my loved ones both in spirit and here on earth may have for me. Xxx To be fair I should do this. My grandma in particular was a a keen believer and I should visit a spiritualist church sometime." I'm sure she would come thro for you. I've had some lovely messages. Xxx | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Been on a couple of ghost hunt nights and have witnessed a few of these in use. My friend actually participated and what happened was definitely real. Definitely left me with a lot of questions ! Share the experience please, we are fascinated by this stuff "You should go on one. They do they up and down the country. Great evening with loads going on. Can even stop over at some venues | |||
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] This is what's wrong with the forums ^ " If you think that's what's wrong with the forums, you *may* be mistaken | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Been on a couple of ghost hunt nights and have witnessed a few of these in use. My friend actually participated and what happened was definitely real. Definitely left me with a lot of questions ! Share the experience please, we are fascinated by this stuff
You should go on one. They do they up and down the country. Great evening with loads going on. Can even stop over at some venues "Have been to a few, Edinburgh, York, and London. Great night, very atmospheric. Nothing majorly scary/sinister happened at them though but you can't expect it to be like a horror movie, ghosts are probably like some posters on here, some are great, others you wish hadn't turned up  | |||
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] This is what's wrong with the forums ^ " I just thought his argument was lost when he put it all in the only two words he could come up with. .
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] This is what's wrong with the forums ^ If you think that's what's wrong with the forums, you *may* be mistaken "No, it's exactly what is wrong with the forums. Don't bother yourself to re comment to us, we don't wish to communicate with people such as yourself, and you will make yourself look ridiculous. If you have nothing constructive to say, silence is often best. Stop hijacking the thread. | |||
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"When me and my friends were young teens we used to dabble a bit until a particularly scary event put us off. Not touched one since
Tell us about this event then.....we love a bit of scary stuff "It was a long time ago but basically we had been playing around with a ouija board. Got a bit freaked out, my friend ran home, put her foot through a drain, didn't think anything of it because her leggings hadn't ripped. When she got home and took them off her knee was really badly cut | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... " Verified scary shit. Don't even want to talk about it, just trust me. | |||
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"Firmly in the camp of it's complete bollocks. I hope I'm wrong, an afterlife existing would be ace instead of the grim reality that when we die we just cease to exist and even that doesn't matter much because, in all likelihood, the universe is only a simulation anyways "Hear, hear! Complete bollox | |||
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED]" When I was 15 there were some girls in my class who were messing about with a Ouija board. After 30 mins of frenzied pulling back and forth, they'd decided that something had told them the letters D, S and C. But what did it mean? They thought and were not sure... I offered to interpret for them: "DSC - Death Shall Come, surely?" Cue paroxysms. | |||
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] This is what's wrong with the forums ^ If you think that's what's wrong with the forums, you *may* be mistaken
No, it's exactly what is wrong with the forums. Don't bother yourself to re comment to us, we don't wish to communicate with people such as yourself, and you will make yourself look ridiculous.
If you have nothing constructive to say, silence is often best.
Stop hijacking the thread."Have to say I absolutely agree with this. | |||
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"Firmly in the camp of it's complete bollocks. I hope I'm wrong, an afterlife existing would be ace instead of the grim reality that when we die we just cease to exist and even that doesn't matter much because, in all likelihood, the universe is only a simulation anyways "Yes the universe being a holographic projection is gaining massive weight in the scientific community. David icke a la lizard queen infamy said this years ago, everybody laughed, now it is gaining massive plausibility from mainstream science. Could whoever is projecting the hologram be a ghost dum dumm durrrr. Differences if opinions are great, as long as somebody isn't being generally a twat, as happens here a lot. Out of interest, who or what do you think is projecting this holographic universe? | |||
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] When I was 15 there were some girls in my class who were messing about with a Ouija board. After 30 mins of frenzied pulling back and forth, they'd decided that something had told them the letters D, S and C. But what did it mean? They thought and were not sure... I offered to interpret for them: "DSC - Death Shall Come, surely?" Cue paroxysms. "Now you see that was a far better post than before....... | |||
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"Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] When I was 15 there were some girls in my class who were messing about with a Ouija board. After 30 mins of frenzied pulling back and forth, they'd decided that something had told them the letters D, S and C. But what did it mean? They thought and were not sure... I offered to interpret for them: "DSC - Death Shall Come, surely?" Cue paroxysms.
Now you see that was a far better post than before......."...in short: Absolute rubbish. | |||
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"Firmly in the camp of it's complete bollocks. I hope I'm wrong, an afterlife existing would be ace instead of the grim reality that when we die we just cease to exist and even that doesn't matter much because, in all likelihood, the universe is only a simulation anyways
Yes the universe being a holographic projection is gaining massive weight in the scientific community.
David icke a la lizard queen infamy said this years ago, everybody laughed, now it is gaining massive plausibility from mainstream science.
Could whoever is projecting the hologram be a ghost dum dumm durrrr.
Differences if opinions are great, as long as somebody isn't being generally a twat, as happens here a lot.
Out of interest, who or what do you think is projecting this holographic universe?"I think Maldacena's conjecture is misunderstood by a lot of people. I also think that there are other competing models that explain the formation of our universe. * Brane theory * the multiverse * Quantum foam * String theory * Simulated reality But I wouldn't want to go on about them and hijack the thread | |||
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"Firmly in the camp of it's complete bollocks. I hope I'm wrong, an afterlife existing would be ace instead of the grim reality that when we die we just cease to exist and even that doesn't matter much because, in all likelihood, the universe is only a simulation anyways
Hear, hear!
Complete bollox"Shut-it joe! xxx | |||
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I see far too much out there and have experienced many things, even read or heard stories that have foundational truth. Real substance that can't be ignored.
To hear somebody brush it off because of 'kids messing around' is absolute rubbish.
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"In my experience of one they are legitimate scary shit. I moved home after poltergeist activity started after using one in my old flat. I had lived there with no occurrences for 5 years before using that stupid board "for a laugh" Have to admit curvy I am curious about this story. Back on topic OP I would like to believe, I remember being involved in something at primary school regarding a moving glass but it wasn't a conventional board and when it moved on its own we all stopped! " It was the flat I got when I was 18 at 23 I'd started dating my ex hubby, we had a meal out (they drank I couldn't due to medication I was on at the time plus I've never been a big drinker anyway) with his friends then went back to my flat where we all agreed to do the board, they were pissing about with it as they'd had one too many, so I said let go I'll do it, the minute my fingers were solely on the pointer it slowly moved to spell out a message "PEARA ITS ME". The only person to ever call me peara was my uncle that died in a car accident when I was age 15 (it was a nickname he used for me and no one in that room was aware of at the time) Then the pointer flew out from my fingers on it's own and quickly spelt "HES NO GOOD" then the pointer flew directly at and hit my ex hubbys head,needless to say we were all gobsmacked me especially as the experience was obviously more personal for me After that night there would be poltergeist happenings occur regularly, but only when my ex was in the flat, he regularly got pulled from the bed, he's feet pushed off the coffee table, or objects fly across the room at him. One night while I was working nights he said he was pulled out of bed again but that night had a figure of a man standing over him, when I asked him to describe the man he described the appearance on my uncle to a T down to the clothes hi was wearing when he died and there's no way he could have known what he looked like it was wearing. Call it crap if you wish but to me it was and still is very real no way am I going near one of those boards again. Even though the board/my uncle was right he real was no good for me | |||
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"Firmly in the camp of it's complete bollocks. I hope I'm wrong, an afterlife existing would be ace instead of the grim reality that when we die we just cease to exist and even that doesn't matter much because, in all likelihood, the universe is only a simulation anyways
Yes the universe being a holographic projection is gaining massive weight in the scientific community.
David icke a la lizard queen infamy said this years ago, everybody laughed, now it is gaining massive plausibility from mainstream science.
Could whoever is projecting the hologram be a ghost dum dumm durrrr.
Differences if opinions are great, as long as somebody isn't being generally a twat, as happens here a lot.
Out of interest, who or what do you think is projecting this holographic universe?
I think Maldacena's conjecture is misunderstood by a lot of people.
I also think that there are other competing models that explain the formation of our universe.
* Brane theory
* the multiverse
* Quantum foam
* String theory
* Simulated reality
But I wouldn't want to go on about them and hijack the thread "Start a thread, we will read it with interest and comment with something non passive aggressive. Now back to ouija boards...... | |||
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"You see Joe. Your basing an argument on your 1 experience. I took my kids to watch Man Utd. They lost. That doesn't mean they're shite ( well, we can address that somewhere else )
I see far too much out there and have experienced many things, even read or heard stories that have foundational truth. Real substance that can't be ignored.
To hear somebody brush it off because of 'kids messing around' is absolute rubbish.
Go and whatch some adults play with the dead in like the Mexicans do, that'll send the willies up you, Fab straight or not "I don;t follow. Even the Catholic Church considers Ouija boards to be superstitious nonsense (rich coming from them but hey...). But this, on the other hand, is empirical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon | |||
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"In my experience of one they are legitimate scary shit. I moved home after poltergeist activity started after using one in my old flat. I had lived there with no occurrences for 5 years before using that stupid board "for a laugh" Have to admit curvy I am curious about this story. Back on topic OP I would like to believe, I remember being involved in something at primary school regarding a moving glass but it wasn't a conventional board and when it moved on its own we all stopped! It was the flat I got when I was 18 at 23 I'd started dating my ex hubby, we had a meal out (they drank I couldn't due to medication I was on at the time plus I've never been a big drinker anyway) with his friends then went back to my flat where we all agreed to do the board, they were pissing about with it as they'd had one too many, so I said let go I'll do it, the minute my fingers were solely on the pointer it slowly moved to spell out a message "PEARA ITS ME". The only person to ever call me peara was my uncle that died in a car accident when I was age 15 (it was a nickname he used for me and no one in that room was aware of at the time) Then the pointer flew out from my fingers on it's own and quickly spelt "HES NO GOOD" then the pointer flew directly at and hit my ex hubbys head,needless to say we were all gobsmacked me especially as the experience was obviously more personal for me After that night there would be poltergeist happenings occur regularly, but only when my ex was in the flat, he regularly got pulled from the bed, he's feet pushed off the coffee table, or objects fly across the room at him. One night while I was working nights he said he was pulled out of bed again but that night had a figure of a man standing over him, when I asked him to describe the man he described the appearance on my uncle to a T down to the clothes hi was wearing when he died and there's no way he could have known what he looked like it was wearing. Call it crap if you wish but to me it was and still is very real no way am I going near one of those boards again. Even though the board/my uncle was right he real was no good for me " Ooooo gawd that just made me go cold!!!! | |||
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"In my experience of one they are legitimate scary shit. I moved home after poltergeist activity started after using one in my old flat. I had lived there with no occurrences for 5 years before using that stupid board "for a laugh" Have to admit curvy I am curious about this story. Back on topic OP I would like to believe, I remember being involved in something at primary school regarding a moving glass but it wasn't a conventional board and when it moved on its own we all stopped! It was the flat I got when I was 18 at 23 I'd started dating my ex hubby, we had a meal out (they drank I couldn't due to medication I was on at the time plus I've never been a big drinker anyway) with his friends then went back to my flat where we all agreed to do the board, they were pissing about with it as they'd had one too many, so I said let go I'll do it, the minute my fingers were solely on the pointer it slowly moved to spell out a message "PEARA ITS ME". The only person to ever call me peara was my uncle that died in a car accident when I was age 15 (it was a nickname he used for me and no one in that room was aware of at the time) Then the pointer flew out from my fingers on it's own and quickly spelt "HES NO GOOD" then the pointer flew directly at and hit my ex hubbys head,needless to say we were all gobsmacked me especially as the experience was obviously more personal for me After that night there would be poltergeist happenings occur regularly, but only when my ex was in the flat, he regularly got pulled from the bed, he's feet pushed off the coffee table, or objects fly across the room at him. One night while I was working nights he said he was pulled out of bed again but that night had a figure of a man standing over him, when I asked him to describe the man he described the appearance on my uncle to a T down to the clothes hi was wearing when he died and there's no way he could have known what he looked like it was wearing. Call it crap if you wish but to me it was and still is very real no way am I going near one of those boards again. Even though the board/my uncle was right he real was no good for me Ooooo gawd that just made me go cold!!!!" *creeps up behind Lady Lick* BOO! | |||
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"Whoaaaa, I've read The Exorcist, I don't want to puke green slime & masturbate with a crucifix. "*wags finger and says* 'Cos that's what'll 'appen! | |||
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"Whoaaaa, I've read The Exorcist, I don't want to puke green slime & masturbate with a crucifix.
*wags finger and says*
'Cos that's what'll 'appen!"Did in the novel. *tweaks nose* | |||
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"In my experience of one they are legitimate scary shit. I moved home after poltergeist activity started after using one in my old flat. I had lived there with no occurrences for 5 years before using that stupid board "for a laugh" Have to admit curvy I am curious about this story. Back on topic OP I would like to believe, I remember being involved in something at primary school regarding a moving glass but it wasn't a conventional board and when it moved on its own we all stopped! It was the flat I got when I was 18 at 23 I'd started dating my ex hubby, we had a meal out (they drank I couldn't due to medication I was on at the time plus I've never been a big drinker anyway) with his friends then went back to my flat where we all agreed to do the board, they were pissing about with it as they'd had one too many, so I said let go I'll do it, the minute my fingers were solely on the pointer it slowly moved to spell out a message "PEARA ITS ME". The only person to ever call me peara was my uncle that died in a car accident when I was age 15 (it was a nickname he used for me and no one in that room was aware of at the time) Then the pointer flew out from my fingers on it's own and quickly spelt "HES NO GOOD" then the pointer flew directly at and hit my ex hubbys head,needless to say we were all gobsmacked me especially as the experience was obviously more personal for me After that night there would be poltergeist happenings occur regularly, but only when my ex was in the flat, he regularly got pulled from the bed, he's feet pushed off the coffee table, or objects fly across the room at him. One night while I was working nights he said he was pulled out of bed again but that night had a figure of a man standing over him, when I asked him to describe the man he described the appearance on my uncle to a T down to the clothes hi was wearing when he died and there's no way he could have known what he looked like it was wearing. Call it crap if you wish but to me it was and still is very real no way am I going near one of those boards again. Even though the board/my uncle was right he real was no good for me Ooooo gawd that just made me go cold!!!!" Given myself goosebumps just having to re all it. Even though it wasn't me that was getting hurt by it, was still very unnerving | |||
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"You are, of course, aware that the ouija board is a game made by Milton Bradley and sold in toy stores. "I get that you don't believe and think it's claptrap. Thanks | |||
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I get that you don't believe and think it's claptrap. Thanks "You're welcome. Glad we've cleared that up | |||
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"You see Joe. Your basing an argument on your 1 experience. I took my kids to watch Man Utd. They lost. That doesn't mean they're shite ( well, we can address that somewhere else )
I see far too much out there and have experienced many things, even read or heard stories that have foundational truth. Real substance that can't be ignored.
To hear somebody brush it off because of 'kids messing around' is absolute rubbish.
Go and whatch some adults play with the dead in like the Mexicans do, that'll send the willies up you, Fab straight or not
I don;t follow.
Even the Catholic Church considers Ouija boards to be superstitious nonsense (rich coming from them but hey...).
But this, on the other hand, is empirical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon"You didn't follow that? | |||
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"You see Joe. Your basing an argument on your 1 experience. I took my kids to watch Man Utd. They lost. That doesn't mean they're shite ( well, we can address that somewhere else )
I see far too much out there and have experienced many things, even read or heard stories that have foundational truth. Real substance that can't be ignored.
To hear somebody brush it off because of 'kids messing around' is absolute rubbish.
Go and whatch some adults play with the dead in like the Mexicans do, that'll send the willies up you, Fab straight or not
I don;t follow.
Even the Catholic Church considers Ouija boards to be superstitious nonsense (rich coming from them but hey...).
But this, on the other hand, is empirical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon
You didn't follow that? "Not really, no. Did you check out the Ideomotor Phenomenon? It's quite interesting and accounts for the 'movement' of the chip | |||
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"Firmly in the camp of it's complete bollocks. I hope I'm wrong, an afterlife existing would be ace instead of the grim reality that when we die we just cease to exist and even that doesn't matter much because, in all likelihood, the universe is only a simulation anyways
Yes the universe being a holographic projection is gaining massive weight in the scientific community.
David icke a la lizard queen infamy said this years ago, everybody laughed, now it is gaining massive plausibility from mainstream science.
Could whoever is projecting the hologram be a ghost dum dumm durrrr.
Differences if opinions are great, as long as somebody isn't being generally a twat, as happens here a lot.
Out of interest, who or what do you think is projecting this holographic universe?"My educated guess would be some spotty teenager playing a highly advanced game of the Sims. Things is, that poor sod is probably in a simulation himself and is completely unaware | |||
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Not really, no.
Did you check out the Ideomotor Phenomenon?
It's quite interesting and accounts for the 'movement' of the chip "I'm sure it is. I also don't believe in religion so trying to back up your arguments with their support holds little water with me .
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Not really, no.
Did you check out the Ideomotor Phenomenon?
It's quite interesting and accounts for the 'movement' of the chip
I'm sure it is.
I also don't believe in religion so trying to back up your arguments with their support holds little water with me.
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"It's probably not a good idea. Even if one think sits a load of bollocks, why take a chance that it might not be? No one knows for sure one way or the other. I'd prefer to err on the side of caution. And have a wank. " Wank away just for the sake of your sight arrrgh is that a ghost in the background lol | |||
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" Even the Catholic Church considers Ouija boards to be superstitious nonsense (rich coming from them but hey...). Did you check out the Ideomotor Phenomenon? I'm sure it is. I also don't believe in religion so trying to back up your arguments with their support holds little water with me .
This has nothing to do with religion...?
It's an observable, replicable experiment explaining why the 'chip' on the Ouijah board appears to move.
That's all.
"You brought up religion. Not me.
Please remove the 'toy' you refer to. I used Mexico as a reference to how deep contacting the dead goes.
They don't use a waddingtons board game.
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" Even the Catholic Church considers Ouija boards to be superstitious nonsense (rich coming from them but hey...). Did you check out the Ideomotor Phenomenon? I'm sure it is. I also don't believe in religion so trying to back up your arguments with their support holds little water with me .
This has nothing to do with religion...?
It's an observable, replicable experiment explaining why the 'chip' on the Ouijah board appears to move.
That's all.
You brought up religion. Not me.
Please remove the 'toy' you refer to. I used Mexico as a reference to how deep contacting the dead goes.
They don't use a waddingtons board game.
I just say don't mess with shit you don't understand. "*sighs* I think you're misrepresenting my argument... Did you look up the Ideomotor Phenomenon then? | |||
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"Haven't read Joes post but it looks like he's covered some of the same. Great minds and all that. "Absolute rubbish. [THREAD CLOSED] | |||
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"Haven't read Joes post but it looks like he's covered some of the same. Great minds and all that.
Absolute rubbish.
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Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way "Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx | |||
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Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx"Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice | |||
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Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx
Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice"Sorry you're just making that up | |||
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"As I've said elsewhere I'm just a simple country boy. Not blessed with much intelligence so like to keep things simple. If there was an afterlife and we were able to contact the dead, why wouldn't all murder investigations have a seance and ask the murder victim who killed them and how? I know someone is going to say 'but ah they did that once ..' but surely it would be routine wouldn't it? Every case? Like I say - I'm just a simple boy ...
Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx
Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice
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" Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way Ah ok. But what about when people want to speak to Auntie Nellie and she tells them she's fine, very happy and at peace? Why hasn't she passed through successfully? Or am I now I'm the realms of mediumship which opens a whole different kettle of fish!? " It's a fine line My grandma is a medium she could never communicate with anyone once they'd crossed over. She says any medium that claims they're communicating with someone that has crossed over is a fraud as once the person crosses the channel between worlds is closed if a legit medium can't communicate with a person you want to speak with they are already at peace. A true mediums job along with their conduit (a person with an aura that is connected to the spirit realm, paranormal activity is generally drawn to them and they can often communicate on a conscious level with spirits as opposed to communicatin spiritually like the medium) is to find out a spirit unfinished business help them to deal with it and cross over and therefore be at peace | |||
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Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx
Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice
Sorry you're just making that up
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Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx
Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice
Sorry you're just making that up
Or repeating something that another charlatan has made up , at best a wild unsubstantiated guess at worst a blatant lie xxx
That fine we get you don't believe and have no interest in doing so, that's fine "That's fine we get you make stuff up or repeat stuff that's made up The idea of crossing over is purely a human invention with zero to suggest a mind exists beyond death let alone any specifics I could be an expert on goblins and fairies . Goblins for example do not have a bum hole and their skin is made from sea shells | |||
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"As I've said elsewhere I'm just a simple country boy. Not blessed with much intelligence so like to keep things simple. If there was an afterlife and we were able to contact the dead, why wouldn't all murder investigations have a seance and ask the murder victim who killed them and how? I know someone is going to say 'but ah they did that once ..' but surely it would be routine wouldn't it? Every case? Like I say - I'm just a simple boy ...
Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx
Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice
Sorry you're just making that up
Or repeating something that another charlatan has made up , at best a wild unsubstantiated guess at worst a blatant lie xxx
That fine we get you don't believe and have no interest in doing so, that's fine
That's fine we get you make stuff up or repeat stuff that's made up
The idea of crossing over is purely a human invention with zero to suggest a mind exists beyond death let alone any specifics
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"I've not dabbled. " Should never dabble in things you do not understand. Years ago, a friend and some friends of hers (not me) dabbled, the board spelled out a date that her and her friends would die in a car crash with a parent, they agreed they would not meet each other on that date. The came and one parent (dad) said he was going somewhere and did daughter want to go too, said she could invite her friends, she said no, and asked her dad to stay home too. He did for a while but later went out unknown to her. The car rolled and he died. The police said the car was so badly mangled, had anyone else been in the car they would have died too. | |||
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"Yeah, you are kinda being a douche sensual. Like there is zero evidence to support what I experienced at my old home, except that myself, my ex fiancee, and some friends all experienced it first hand. Maybe it's just one of those things you need to experience yourself to believe" Or maybe it's mumbo jumbo? Just sayin' | |||
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"Yeah, you are kinda being a douche sensual. Like there is zero evidence to support what I experienced at my old home, except that myself, my ex fiancee, and some friends all experienced it first hand. Maybe it's just one of those things you need to experience yourself to believe Or maybe it's mumbo jumbo? Just sayin' "Again, as previously mentioned, I always thought the same thing until I experienced it myself | |||
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"Yeah, you are kinda being a douche sensual. Like there is zero evidence to support what I experienced at my old home, except that myself, my ex fiancee, and some friends all experienced it first hand. Maybe it's just one of those things you need to experience yourself to believe" I personally never believed any of it until my own experience, although my experience was unnerving, now recreationally I really enjoy reading a lot of theories, experiences, sciences etc behind it all, find it all fascinating. As it currently stand there's no actually proof either way | |||
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Again, as previously mentioned, I always thought the same thing until I experienced it myself"Oh really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon | |||
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"Yeah, you are kinda being a douche sensual. Like there is zero evidence to support what I experienced at my old home, except that myself, my ex fiancee, and some friends all experienced it first hand. Maybe it's just one of those things you need to experience yourself to believe I personally never believed any of it until my own experience, although my experience was unnerving, now recreationally I really enjoy reading a lot of theories, experiences, sciences etc behind it all, find it all fascinating. As it currently stand there's no actually proof either way " Oh really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon | |||
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"I've not dabbled. Should never dabble in things you do not understand. Years ago, a friend and some friends of hers (not me) dabbled, the board spelled out a date that her and her friends would die in a car crash with a parent, they agreed they would not meet each other on that date. The came and one parent (dad) said he was going somewhere and did daughter want to go too, said she could invite her friends, she said no, and asked her dad to stay home too. He did for a while but later went out unknown to her. The car rolled and he died. The police said the car was so badly mangled, had anyone else been in the car they would have died too. "So it was wrong then? And she didn't think to tell her Dad? Interesting... Did the police say what caused the crash? (if you say he was answering a text from his daughter telling him to drive safely I think my irony-meter will explode)
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"Can see this is going to just carry on, I'd have thought on a swingers forum of all places, people would be a little less shitty and be more open to other people's beliefs. Apparently not. Kinda sad really." Opinions are born to be expressed are they not? | |||
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"Can see this is going to just carry on, I'd have thought on a swingers forum of all places, people would be a little less shitty and be more open to other people's beliefs. Apparently not. Kinda sad really. Opinions are born to be expressed are they not?" It's not always the fact that people merely express their opinions, but more about the way in which they express them | |||
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"Fraudulent bobbins or legitimate scary sh*t? Discuss ... Hang on, I'll go ask.... . B . O . L . L . O . C . K . S . Gosh, who knew?
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"These sorts of topics will always divide opinions and debate is healthy. I think it's important we all respect each other's _iews even if they are polar opposites to our own "An opinion of 'bollocks' isn't very respectful but as I shouted 'bite them!' In my head at mr ddc, all is well. | |||
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"These sorts of topics will always divide opinions and debate is healthy. I think it's important we all respect each other's _iews even if they are polar opposites to our own
An opinion of 'bollocks' isn't very respectful but as I shouted 'bite them!' In my head at mr ddc, all is well. "Technically, was I not just answering the question in the OP, in a lighthearted manner? Isn't that what we're meant to do, or was there a rule change that I missed?
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"These sorts of topics will always divide opinions and debate is healthy. I think it's important we all respect each other's _iews even if they are polar opposites to our own
An opinion of 'bollocks' isn't very respectful but as I shouted 'bite them!' In my head at mr ddc, all is well.
Technically, was I not just answering the question in the OP, in a lighthearted manner?
Isn't that what we're meant to do, or was there a rule change that I missed?
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"“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” ? Brian Cox But equally no one has the right to be offended by the opinion of others? Sorry not to be........ My ouiji board is low on battery " Like Dorothy Parker, one could also say that, "People who are easily offended should be offended more often." | |||
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"“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” ? Brian Cox" Yep! This, and agree fully! | |||
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"“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” ? Brian Cox But equally no one has the right to be offended by the opinion of others? Sorry not to be........ My ouiji board is low on battery Like Dorothy Parker, one could also say that, "People who are easily offended should be offended more often." "It's not difficult on here, you disbelieving sceptical factoid | |||
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It's not difficult on here, you disbelieving sceptical factoid "Are people offensive generally in forumite city? | |||
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It's not difficult on here, you disbelieving sceptical factoid
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Rule change. Didn't you get the email? "Oh, ok. Perhaps when only certain _iews are welcome it would be simpler to set these out in the OP. Enjoy your debate. | |||
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" Technically, was I not just answering the question in the OP, in a lighthearted manner? Isn't that what we're meant to do, or was there a rule change that I missed?
Rule change. Didn't you get the email?
Oh, ok.
Perhaps when only certain _iews are welcome it would be simpler to set these out in the OP.
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" Technically, was I not just answering the question in the OP, in a lighthearted manner? Isn't that what we're meant to do, or was there a rule change that I missed?
Rule change. Didn't you get the email?
Oh, ok.
Perhaps when only certain _iews are welcome it would be simpler to set these out in the OP.
Enjoy your debate. "Oi come back! My thread, my rules ! Mr DDC all _iews welcome here don't worry about what imposters say | |||
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"“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” ? Brian Cox But equally no one has the right to be offended by the opinion of others? Sorry not to be........ My ouiji board is low on battery Like Dorothy Parker, one could also say that, "People who are easily offended should be offended more often."
It's not difficult on here, you disbelieving sceptical factoid
Are people offensive generally in forumite city?
"...the city is a funny place, something like a circus or a sewer..."
~ Lou Reed "I think forumite city has an eclectic group of respondents. Where in the World would you get discussion topics ranging "do you cum with anal" to "is there a god" with a liberal sprinkling of those seeking medical advice for various conditions save for UKIP party conference ? | |||
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"I can't help guy think of these spirits are powerful enough to make contact, move objects etc Then surely they don't need a board with the alphabet written on it to do so. " how very dare you express a well reasoned intelligent and articulate opinion! | |||
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"If you mess about with the spirit world .. dont expect them to go away easily. I have never got involved in it myself but heard some scary accounts. Not worth the hassle." I agree that vodka can be scary the following morning? | |||
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"I can't help guy think of these spirits are powerful enough to make contact, move objects etc Then surely they don't need a board with the alphabet written on it to do so. " They generally don't unless the board provides the initial gateway into this realm | |||
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"I can't help guy think of these spirits are powerful enough to make contact, move objects etc Then surely they don't need a board with the alphabet written on it to do so. " No they don't. Burglars don't need an open door to break in your house. But if you leave it open, they take everything you have. Think of the board as a gate your opening. Making it very easy. | |||
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It's not difficult on here, you disbelieving sceptical factoid
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"Ouija boards i cannot give any actual input on as never done anything with them. Are ghosts real? Again cant say either way. I do know i have had a lot of freaky experiences, during one ive been on a response call, over the police radio we could hear some girl begging for help and within a meter of the phone the line goes dead and the police officer spoke. I have seen two big ass police officers thrown in an abandoned building by nothing i could see. I do believe there is more out there, things we either dont wsnt to understand or cant understand because we can blinker out things Dax " Of course there are occurances that cannot be explained as humankind has only touched the surface in terms of understand the forces of nature | |||
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"I can't help guy think of these spirits are powerful enough to make contact, move objects etc Then surely they don't need a board with the alphabet written on it to do so. No they don't. Burglars don't need an open door to break in your house. But if you leave it open, they take everything you have. Think of the board as a gate your opening. Making it very easy. " I'll be very gentle with your opening, dude | |||
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"I can't help guy think of these spirits are powerful enough to make contact, move objects etc Then surely they don't need a board with the alphabet written on it to do so. No they don't. Burglars don't need an open door to break in your house. But if you leave it open, they take everything you have. Think of the board as a gate your opening. Making it very easy. " Nah sorry not buying it....the dead are just that. i wonder if anyone has made contact with some of the first men to walk the Earth, a Viking, or how about Caesar. Or is it usually just the immediate family members? There would be numbers beyond counting in the "spirit world" I've experienced some very strange things, but nothing to convince me of spirits...the human mind is great at trying to fill in the blanks with the imagination running wild | |||
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"I can't help guy think of these spirits are powerful enough to make contact, move objects etc Then surely they don't need a board with the alphabet written on it to do so. No they don't. Burglars don't need an open door to break in your house. But if you leave it open, they take everything you have. Think of the board as a gate your opening. Making it very easy. Nah sorry not buying it....the dead are just that. i wonder if anyone has made contact with some of the first men to walk the Earth, a Viking, or how about Caesar. Or is it usually just the immediate family members? There would be numbers beyond counting in the "spirit world" I've experienced some very strange things, but nothing to convince me of spirits...the human mind is great at trying to fill in the blanks with the imagination running wild " Looking for connections historical your into the theories of reincarnation and past lives which is a different discussion altogether | |||
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"As I've said elsewhere I'm just a simple country boy. Not blessed with much intelligence so like to keep things simple. If there was an afterlife and we were able to contact the dead, why wouldn't all murder investigations have a seance and ask the murder victim who killed them and how? I know someone is going to say 'but ah they did that once ..' but surely it would be routine wouldn't it? Every case? Like I say - I'm just a simple boy ...
Because just because the person died in a possibly brutal way doesn't mean they didn't cross over successfully, spirits are generally the presence of people left behind that have unfinished business in some way
Being murdered in a brutal way does not leave unfinished business ? Hmm
Me thinks some just make stuff up with zero evidence to substantiate
I'd suggest if human sentience and consciousness did not die with its brain and was able to communicate magically with brains it would not be ambiguous or questionable we would know xxx
Would depend on the person and circumstance usually with murder the ideology behind it is the spirit would only remain if they wanted their killer brought to justice
Sorry you're just making that up
Or repeating something that another charlatan has made up , at best a wild unsubstantiated guess at worst a blatant lie xxx
That fine we get you don't believe and have no interest in doing so, that's fine "It's not actually that I do or don't believe anything , it's I feel uncomfortable when humans fabricate elaborate stories and then propagate them as facts or informed information . I see it as manipulative dishonesty I was actually not taking the piss, rather illustrating how preposterous , specific claims about mythical domains actually are , and justifying why no respect is deserved for pretending to be an authority or to have insight on such matters xxx | |||
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