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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why? "Probably fear of our own mortality for most of what you said but people who beleive in honest politicians are certifiable effing idiots.  | |||
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"Surely popular opinion is common sense.." Obviously not...thousands of people can't be wrong? Well...how about the millions of Christians in the world...and the millions of muslims? Can't both be right. 
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. " Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.  | |||
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"Surely popular opinion is common sense.. Obviously not...thousands of people can't be wrong? Well...how about the millions of Christians in the world...and the millions of muslims? Can't both be right.
(But they can all be wrong)"By that reckoning we'd all be believers... but we're not. | |||
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"Everybody has a belief, even if they believe theres nothing its something they believe in" Yeah...even disbelief is a belief. Yet people seem to always choose the convoluted extremely unlikely poetic thing to believe in over the often simpler more likely thing. I realise that was a clumsy sentence but...like...Creationism...in this day and age. How the hell can that still be taken as real by so many? (See what I did there?) | |||
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"Surely popular opinion is common sense.. Obviously not...thousands of people can't be wrong? Well...how about the millions of Christians in the world...and the millions of muslims? Can't both be right.
(But they can all be wrong)
By that reckoning we'd all be believers... but we're not."I don't understand that statement at all. | |||
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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why? "Not all of us are | |||
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"Everybody has a belief, even if they believe theres nothing its something they believe in Yeah...even disbelief is a belief. Yet people seem to always choose the convoluted extremely unlikely poetic thing to believe in over the often simpler more likely thing. I realise that was a clumsy sentence but...like...Creationism...in this day and age. How the hell can that still be taken as real by so many? (See what I did there?) "who says your thinking is the simpliest and most likely. Might be the most likely to you doesnt mean it is to others | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get. "They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing. Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. | |||
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"No. I Can't be arsed. I'm off to fuck a unicorn. Good night. "Long as you don't fuck a model dinosaur..or there will be outrage!.. Night. | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. "i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that?" If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem | |||
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"No. I Can't be arsed. I'm off to fuck a unicorn. Good night.
Long as you don't fuck a model dinosaur..or there will be outrage!..
Night.
"Pump, pump, "how's that for natural selection?" pump, pump, yeah evolution baby! I'm so gonna "big bang" all over your dinosaur face! | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that? If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem "Shush Joseph. | |||
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"Everybody has a belief, even if they believe theres nothing its something they believe in Yeah...even disbelief is a belief. Yet people seem to always choose the convoluted extremely unlikely poetic thing to believe in over the often simpler more likely thing. I realise that was a clumsy sentence but...like...Creationism...in this day and age. How the hell can that still be taken as real by so many? (See what I did there?) who says your thinking is the simpliest and most likely. Might be the most likely to you doesnt mean it is to others"Put it this way....choose an unlikely but oft believed thing... Think about it for five minutes. Rip it to pieces with simple logic. Goto 10. Not very many of these odd things are hard to destroy with little thought...yet people deny.  | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that? If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem
Shush Joseph."Look, step out onto Glastonbury High Street and see 57 varieties of mostly well-meaning metafizzical nonsense. Sprinkle with credulous, monied (mostly well-meaning) fools and you've got an industry that has sustained this town for centuries. It's still bollox | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long"Where did your thoughts get their fuel? | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that? If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem
Shush Joseph.
Look, step out onto Glastonbury High Street and see 57 varieties of mostly well-meaning metafizzical nonsense.
Sprinkle with credulous, monied (mostly well-meaning) fools and you've got an industry that has sustained this town for centuries.
It's still bollox "Money. It's at the epicentre of all. | |||
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"No. I Can't be arsed. I'm off to fuck a unicorn. Good night.
Long as you don't fuck a model dinosaur..or there will be outrage!..
Night.
Pump, pump, "how's that for natural selection?" pump, pump, yeah evolution baby!
I'm so gonna "big bang" all over your dinosaur face! "Fuck yeah...and I'm gonna cage thousands of your descendants and then deep fry them in 5 secret herbs and spices. Consider yourself Kentucky Fried little dino.  | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that? If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem " | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that? If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem
Shush Joseph.
Look, step out onto Glastonbury High Street and see 57 varieties of mostly well-meaning metafizzical nonsense.
Sprinkle with credulous, monied (mostly well-meaning) fools and you've got an industry that has sustained this town for centuries.
It's still bollox
Money. It's at the epicentre of all."Funny, that
And then consider cults like Scientology - a *made up* religion, made upby a half mad hack sci-fi writer - worth billions.
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"Science: it works, bitches! "Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space | |||
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"Because people have faith in their beliefs, and that faith brings strength and comfort. What's wrong with that? If it's demonstrable bollox then yes, there is a problem
Shush Joseph.
Look, step out onto Glastonbury High Street and see 57 varieties of mostly well-meaning metafizzical nonsense.
Sprinkle with credulous, monied (mostly well-meaning) fools and you've got an industry that has sustained this town for centuries.
It's still bollox
Money. It's at the epicentre of all."Yes money and control...that's why many beliefs are perpetuated. | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space "The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho. | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho."Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up. | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space "Science is a method, not a belief. It takes into account that which we can be sure of and builds on that in a systematic fashion. When the hypothesis is found wanting it is altered. Faith, on the other hand, does not change its hypothesis in the light of new evidence. It's bollox. And lazy bollox at that
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"No. I Can't be arsed. I'm off to fuck a unicorn. Good night.
Long as you don't fuck a model dinosaur..or there will be outrage!..
Night.
Pump, pump, "how's that for natural selection?" pump, pump, yeah evolution baby!
I'm so gonna "big bang" all over your dinosaur face!
Fuck yeah...and I'm gonna cage thousands of your descendants and then deep fry them in 5 secret herbs and spices.
Consider yourself Kentucky Fried little dino. "Tell me, who's yer daddy?!? Charles Darwin, that's who! | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up. "The great thing about science is that theories evolve and the one which most reflects real world consequences is always current Not so with a belief system. Findings are twisted to fit the bullshit. Science may not he perfect..but it's the best tool we have. | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up. ""Made a believable thing up."? Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men? You shittin' me? | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? "its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level | |||
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" not set in stones, " No we use mathematics, and physics, and chemistry, and books and computers, and telescopes, and shit now. Things have moved on | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
The great thing about science is that theories evolve and the one which most reflects real world consequences is always current
Not so with a belief system. Findings are twisted to fit the bullshit.
Science may not he perfect..but it's the best tool we have. "That is right as theories/beliefs changes all the time. | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level"Wow...transending...multiple times..cosmic.  | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
The great thing about science is that theories evolve and the one which most reflects real world consequences is always current
Not so with a belief system. Findings are twisted to fit the bullshit.
Science may not he perfect..but it's the best tool we have. That is right as theories/beliefs changes all the time."Like when we stopped burning witches? | |||
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"Theset things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Wow...transending...multiple times..cosmic. "twice isnt multiple and keep your piss take for someone else | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
"Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another. | |||
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"Theset things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Wow...transending...multiple times..cosmic. twice isnt multiple and keep your piss take for someone else"
To be fair it was four...but I don't mean to offend..only teasing...please accept my apology..xx | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
The great thing about science is that theories evolve and the one which most reflects real world consequences is always current
Not so with a belief system. Findings are twisted to fit the bullshit.
Science may not he perfect..but it's the best tool we have. That is right as theories/beliefs changes all the time.
Like when we stopped burning witches?"You remember when all that sexual abuse stuff was coming out about the Irish Church a few years back? One of the things that stuck with me was that the Church sends faxes in Latin. Progress, of a sort... | |||
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"Theset things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Wow...transending...multiple times..cosmic. twice isnt multiple and keep your piss take for someone else
To be fair it was four...but I don't mean to offend..only teasing...please accept my apology..xx "what was four? | |||
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" Science may not he perfect..but it's the best tool we have. That is right as theories/beliefs changes all the time." Pretty sure nuclear fission isn't a theory | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
The great thing about science is that theories evolve and the one which most reflects real world consequences is always current
Not so with a belief system. Findings are twisted to fit the bullshit.
Science may not he perfect..but it's the best tool we have. That is right as theories/beliefs changes all the time.
Like when we stopped burning witches?
You remember when all that sexual abuse stuff was coming out about the Irish Church a few years back?
One of the things that stuck with me was that the Church sends faxes in Latin.
Progress, of a sort...
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another."Poor example..xmas is a mishmash of many beliefs some of which predate Christianity...and it's perpetuated by tradition and commercialism. No belief necessary. | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another."I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!! And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something? Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine. At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed. This isn't evidence for the Work of God. That is the hands of men. Creating bollox | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox"
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level"Transcending what? | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox"Christmas is about eating and drinking with ones family | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox
Christmas is about eating and drinking with ones family "Only since the modern period - the whole idea of Mothering Sunday was introduced because domestic servants, particularly girls, didn't have a chance to spend Xmas with their own families so were released for a couple of days a year to see them. | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox
Christmas is about eating and drinking with ones family
Only since the modern period - the whole idea of Mothering Sunday was introduced because domestic servants, particularly girls, didn't have a chance to spend Xmas with their own families so were released for a couple of days a year to see them.
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening"I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox
Christmas is about eating and drinking with ones family
Only since the modern period - the whole idea of Mothering Sunday was introduced because domestic servants, particularly girls, didn't have a chance to spend Xmas with their own families so were released for a couple of days a year to see them.
I'm living in the modern period. "Sure, most of us are. But to understand the modern world, you have to understand how it got this way | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox
Christmas is about eating and drinking with ones family
Only since the modern period - the whole idea of Mothering Sunday was introduced because domestic servants, particularly girls, didn't have a chance to spend Xmas with their own families so were released for a couple of days a year to see them.
I'm living in the modern period.
Sure, most of us are.
But to understand the modern world, you have to understand how it got this way "I just like eating and drinking with my family. | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails "well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post | |||
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"Science: it works, bitches! Not with the big bang theory as there is no beginning or end of space
The big bang theory kind of implies a beginning tho.Yes, hence the theory bit, not set in stones, the truth is to big for scientists to grasp, so they made a believable thing up.
"Made a believable thing up."?
Like some big beardy dude sitting up in the clouds in a big gold chair, turning people into pillars of salt for lying with men?
You shittin' me?
Yes, hence we all got our own beliefs, for example, an atheist that likes xmas, but not god/jesus, is abit confused with their religion as they cant cherry pick one thing and another.
I'm an atheist and I don't like Xmas either - it is a mere festival of conspicuous consumption, driven by people telling us to BUY!!!
And there was this, like baby person somewhere or something?
Oh, and the Christians didn't even decide on the date of Xmas until the mid 4th century, but appropriated at the Council of Nicea under the direction of the mighty and mighty pissed-off emperor, Constantine.
At the Council various competing traditions of early Christianity were brought together in one whole and then the heretics were purged, oh and the Bible was standardised and a bunch of spare gospels removed.
This isn't evidence for the Work of God.
That is the hands of men.
Creating bollox
Christmas is about eating and drinking with ones family
Only since the modern period - the whole idea of Mothering Sunday was introduced because domestic servants, particularly girls, didn't have a chance to spend Xmas with their own families so were released for a couple of days a year to see them.
I'm living in the modern period.
Sure, most of us are.
But to understand the modern world, you have to understand how it got this way
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post"I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? | |||
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"These posts are too long I have no idea what's going on here and I don't have the time to read all those ^^
It's a bit of a brain acher. "No it isn't! Religion is bollox. In short | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? "not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long"Faith in God or yourself? | |||
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"These posts are too long I have no idea what's going on here and I don't have the time to read all those ^^
It's a bit of a brain acher.
No it isn't!
Religion is bollox.
In short "I don't get involved with religion. I think it can be a horrible influence on people. | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long
Faith in God or yourself?"faith in the things i believe in. I dont believe in a god as such. | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long"In order to have faith you must have something to have faith in. | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long
Faith in God or yourself?faith in the things i believe in. I dont believe in a god as such."God is nothing more than a man made concept which was brought about to control the masses. There are hundreds of God within all kinds of religions. They can't all be right | |||
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"These posts are too long I have no idea what's going on here and I don't have the time to read all those ^^
It's a bit of a brain acher.
No it isn't!
Religion is bollox.
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long
In order to have faith you must have something to have faith in."and this is what happened to me 11 years ago. I had faith that if you openef yourself up to recieve positive energy it will come into your life and thats what happened once i allowed myself to open up | |||
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"These posts are too long I have no idea what's going on here and I don't have the time to read all those ^^
It's a bit of a brain acher.
No it isn't!
Religion is bollox.
In short
Well I already knew that thanks for clarifying forumites! "As I said, it's really quite simple | |||
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"These things give people hope and excitement. Without these life would be boring and pointless. Yeah I agree the world is a brighter place from the addition of many of these ideas...but people actually believe it. That's what I don't get.
They have been taught to believe from a young age, or choose to believe because it's better than having nothing.
Some of it is used for control, like Santa and the tooth fairy. i wasnt, everthing i believe in has come from my own thoughts and being as an a adult nothing to do with what i thought i should believe in thats why i was so confused and didnt understand for so long
Where did your thoughts get their fuel? its quite hard to explain as im still in the process of transending again. But i had thoughts in my head but i had thoughts in my head that i kept in my head and about 11 years ago because of my believes someone came into my life, understood and helped me transcend. then about a year ago thoughts on the next level came into my head and i started to transcend again and a few months ago someone else came into my life whose helping me transcend to the next level
Transcending what?
my body and soul and spirit. Its my spiritual awakening
I need more information. I have no clue as to what that entails well i cant possibly condense it into a forum post
I know. It's not about belief in a deity or something supernatural though, is it? not for me, in fact the opposite. I always said i wasnt religious and im not but as soon as i changed the word religion to faith it all made sense to me. I have no belief whatsoever in what i grew up thinking i should believe in but i do very much have a faith that is personal to me then it all just started fitting into place and actually realizing how strong my faith is that i kept buried for so long
In order to have faith you must have something to have faith in.and this is what happened to me 11 years ago. I had faith that if you openef yourself up to recieve positive energy it will come into your life and thats what happened once i allowed myself to open up"If that works for you then that's good. Its much better than somethings I've heard before. | |||
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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why? "It comforts people. For example, religion was started in the absense of science to explain why things like crops or fertility went wrong. Or why there were lots or few animals to hunt. Cultures attributed anomalies as devine or spiritual intervention. Then we figured out that crops and fertility fail for a number of reasons. But religion stuck around because, by then, it offered an afterlife. spirituality offers the same kind of comfort - I think it gives the person some kind of feeling where they're in control of, or part of, something much bigger than themselves. It's a way to feel less insignificant. That's what I think, anyways. But what do I know, I'm only a vicar. Only kidding. I'm not a vicar. | |||
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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why? "OP belief and imagination are linked having both is part of the human condition and vital to invention . It was once believed flight was impossible someone believed the opposite and set about proving it The human condition for invention goes like this this you imagine you can do something or you imagine something then you believe you can it or make it at that point you set about making it happen . As for the god question ghosts and other such this can I refer to quantum theory . I choose to be nether a believer or a non believer and for those reason I choose not vilify or judge those that do . | |||
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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why?
OP belief and imagination are linked having both is part of the human condition and vital to invention .
It was once believed flight was impossible someone believed the opposite and set about proving it
The human condition for invention goes like this this you imagine you can do something or you imagine something then you believe you can it or make it at that point you set about making it happen .
As for the god question ghosts and other such this can I refer to quantum theory .
I choose to be nether a believer or a non believer and for those reason I choose not vilify or judge those that do ."Erm... ...well you can't really be neither a believer or a non believer...it's kinda binary. Get that fence post out of your bum!
And you left a real one sentence cliff hanger...I'd love to hear what ghosts have to do with quantum theory
Also I don't see atheism as vilifying those of belief...it's more kind of pulling a face and saying "Really?".
Belief in fairies is laughable.
But when on group of people say believe in my fairy over all other fairies and persecute those that don't then you have trouble...
And this is what has defined human history.....and is still evident in the atrocities happening today.
Faith is at once a "blessing" and a curse.
And all that before I even put the kettle on....forgive me oh great PG Tip!
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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why?
OP belief and imagination are linked having both is part of the human condition and vital to invention .
It was once believed flight was impossible someone believed the opposite and set about proving it
The human condition for invention goes like this this you imagine you can do something or you imagine something then you believe you can it or make it at that point you set about making it happen .
As for the god question ghosts and other such this can I refer to quantum theory .
I choose to be nether a believer or a non believer and for those reason I choose not vilify or judge those that do .
Erm... ...well you can't really be neither a believer or a non believer...it's kinda binary. Get that fence post out of your bum!
And you left a real one sentence cliff hanger...I'd love to hear what ghosts have to do with quantum theory
Also I don't see atheism as vilifying those of belief...it's more kind of pulling a face and saying "Really?".
Belief in fairies is laughable.
But when on group of people say believe in my fairy over all other fairies and persecute those that don't then you have trouble...
And this is what has defined human history.....and is still evident in the atrocities happening today.
Faith is at once a "blessing" and a curse.
And all that before I even put the kettle on....forgive me oh great PG Tip!
"ok op you have a stated a belief that you don't believe ....I on the other hand am neutral on such things as ghosts god and other strange events I nether believe or disbelieve . I have experienced strange events that had meaning to me but that doesn't make me a believer of ghosts because I can not prove them nor does it make me disbeliever for the same reason . so I'm open not closed minded on the suggest as there is not proof one way or the other yet I'm the same with all things . the universe is infinite and there are infinite universes parallel universes multi universes if existence is like that. then anything is possible no matter how improbably hence my open minded approach . belief isn't a problem its how individuals choose to act based off of their believes that is the real problem in my humble opinion | |||
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"Why are we so seemingly predisposed to believing in all manner of shite? Why does popular opinion over-ride common sense? I mean..fairies,ghosts,Gods,astrology,heaven, hell and honest politicians...all highly unlikely yet belief still persists. Why?
OP belief and imagination are linked having both is part of the human condition and vital to invention .
It was once believed flight was impossible someone believed the opposite and set about proving it
The human condition for invention goes like this this you imagine you can do something or you imagine something then you believe you can it or make it at that point you set about making it happen .
As for the god question ghosts and other such this can I refer to quantum theory .
I choose to be nether a believer or a non believer and for those reason I choose not vilify or judge those that do .
Erm... ...well you can't really be neither a believer or a non believer...it's kinda binary. Get that fence post out of your bum!
And you left a real one sentence cliff hanger...I'd love to hear what ghosts have to do with quantum theory
Also I don't see atheism as vilifying those of belief...it's more kind of pulling a face and saying "Really?".
Belief in fairies is laughable.
But when on group of people say believe in my fairy over all other fairies and persecute those that don't then you have trouble...
And this is what has defined human history.....and is still evident in the atrocities happening today.
Faith is at once a "blessing" and a curse.
And all that before I even put the kettle on....forgive me oh great PG Tip!
ok op you have a stated a belief that you don't believe ....I on the other hand am neutral on such things as ghosts god and other strange events I nether believe or disbelieve .
I have experienced strange events that had meaning to me but that doesn't make me a believer of ghosts because I can not prove them nor does it make me disbeliever for the same reason .
so I'm open not closed minded on the suggest as there is not proof one way or the other yet I'm the same with all things .
the universe is infinite and there are infinite universes parallel universes multi universes if existence is like that.
then anything is possible no matter how improbably hence my open minded approach .
belief isn't a problem its how individuals choose to act based off of their believes that is the real problem in my humble opinion "He he...yeah I was just playing with you really...you are still giving a third answer to a two answer question tho. Perhaps your belief is in a quantum state?
And yes I love your last sentence.. very true..well said. | |||
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"Was thinking the other night, if there really *was* a New World Order/Illuminati/Bilderberg/whatever conspiracy to stitch up the world, you'd've thought they'd've made a better job of keeping Trump away from the Presidency... "Maybe he's in there to make sure Mrs Clinton wins. | |||
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"Was thinking the other night, if there really *was* a New World Order/Illuminati/Bilderberg/whatever conspiracy to stitch up the world, you'd've thought they'd've made a better job of keeping Trump away from the Presidency...
Maybe he's in there to make sure Mrs Clinton wins. " | |||
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