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" We think you have taken the comment wrongly. She meant 'you are lovely' and it was her way of saying so? " exactly this. Or she was making a pass at you | |||
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" We think you have taken the comment wrongly. She meant 'you are lovely' and it was her way of saying so? " Why is it a waste to be lovely but not married though? | |||
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" We think you have taken the comment wrongly. She meant 'you are lovely' and it was her way of saying so? Why is it a waste to be lovely but not married though? " my thoughts too. I think her words were ill chosen and if intended as a compliment its a very backhanded one. | |||
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" We think you have taken the comment wrongly. She meant 'you are lovely' and it was her way of saying so? Why is it a waste to be lovely but not married though? " Because I guess that's how it was in the 1930s lol | |||
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"Just someone from a different generation paying you a compliment x no reason to feel like shit" Why is that a compliment? The OP says she was blushing and feeling embarrassed so the woman will have seen that. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. " I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. | |||
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"A woman's worth is not, and should not in 2016, be judged by her ability to be married to a man. Don't feel embarrassed or bad. Let it go and enjoy your life, your way. " | |||
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"Just someone from a different generation paying you a compliment x no reason to feel like shit Why is that a compliment? The OP says she was blushing and feeling embarrassed so the woman will have seen that. " And responded by patting her on the hand to make the 'compliment' when she saw she felt awkward by her no wedding ring statement. Possibly misplaced, and of course none of the rest of us were there so it's purely speculation, but it sounds like an unfortunate generational faux pas from a different era rather than a malicious act | |||
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"Society in general defers to couples. You complete me blah, blah, bollox. Going back to Greek mythology and the idea we are split from one being, with four arms, four legs and two faces. That we spend our lives looking for our other half, our "soul mate" or whatever other drivel that defines the norm. There is no right or wrong to this, some people belong together, some people are more comfortable alone. It's just part of how each person experiences their lives. You shouldn't feel bad for being single. I'd feel sorry for you if you were stuck in a loveless marriage. Maybe that women was lucky enough to have a wonderful marriage and wanted to share it. Then again, maybe she thought, "fuck it, if I'm stuck in this misery, why should she get off Scott free". Who knows but it doesn't change a single thing about your life. " It's even worse about parents. The latest pissing me off today being the Nationwide advert. You're considered basically worthless if you're childless (as a woman, probably not so bad for blokes). | |||
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" We think you have taken the comment wrongly. She meant 'you are lovely' and it was her way of saying so? " That's how I interpret it too. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment." She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. | |||
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"Society in general defers to couples. You complete me blah, blah, bollox. Going back to Greek mythology and the idea we are split from one being, with four arms, four legs and two faces. That we spend our lives looking for our other half, our "soul mate" or whatever other drivel that defines the norm. There is no right or wrong to this, some people belong together, some people are more comfortable alone. It's just part of how each person experiences their lives. You shouldn't feel bad for being single. I'd feel sorry for you if you were stuck in a loveless marriage. Maybe that women was lucky enough to have a wonderful marriage and wanted to share it. Then again, maybe she thought, "fuck it, if I'm stuck in this misery, why should she get off Scott free". Who knows but it doesn't change a single thing about your life. It's even worse about parents. The latest pissing me off today being the Nationwide advert. You're considered basically worthless if you're childless (as a woman, probably not so bad for blokes). " Well in fairness, it's your duty to grow more consumers. Oh it's also your duty to work full time as well. Let's not forget being a good wife and I'm sure there's a few more I'm forgetting. There's a reason I don't consume mass media anymore, it would leave you feeling rather shit about yourself. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. " was she? | |||
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"Society in general defers to couples. You complete me blah, blah, bollox. Going back to Greek mythology and the idea we are split from one being, with four arms, four legs and two faces. That we spend our lives looking for our other half, our "soul mate" or whatever other drivel that defines the norm. There is no right or wrong to this, some people belong together, some people are more comfortable alone. It's just part of how each person experiences their lives. You shouldn't feel bad for being single. I'd feel sorry for you if you were stuck in a loveless marriage. Maybe that women was lucky enough to have a wonderful marriage and wanted to share it. Then again, maybe she thought, "fuck it, if I'm stuck in this misery, why should she get off Scott free". Who knows but it doesn't change a single thing about your life. It's even worse about parents. The latest pissing me off today being the Nationwide advert. You're considered basically worthless if you're childless (as a woman, probably not so bad for blokes). " I haven't seen that one. AWOC tries to raise the story of positive living without children. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. was she? " Yes! The notion is that she was "wasted" because she would clearly have made a lovely wife etc and her man let her go/nobody has boyfriended her since. Like I said, the notion is patriachal, but the sentiment is complimentary. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. was she? " I would very much imagine she was trying to tell the OP that she's very attractive. It's just not a nice way of doing it. We have value in and of ourselves, but society mainly through the media, minimize that value. The lady probably is from a completely different generation and just doesn't understand herself anymore as an individual, so projects that outwards. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. was she? I would very much imagine she was trying to tell the OP that she's very attractive. It's just not a nice way of doing it. We have value in and of ourselves, but society mainly through the media, minimize that value. The lady probably is from a completely different generation and just doesn't understand herself anymore as an individual, so projects that outwards. " as I said earlier my mum (82 married 61 years) thinks along these lines but I don't know that she would tell someone that. Maybe I'm being harsh but just because somebody is old doesn't make them incapable of insult. | |||
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"You should have said ......... Don't worry . Im not wasted . I shag every bloke in the town including your husband. " Aww Granny you made me laugh | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. was she? I would very much imagine she was trying to tell the OP that she's very attractive. It's just not a nice way of doing it. We have value in and of ourselves, but society mainly through the media, minimize that value. The lady probably is from a completely different generation and just doesn't understand herself anymore as an individual, so projects that outwards. as I said earlier my mum (82 married 61 years) thinks along these lines but I don't know that she would tell someone that. Maybe I'm being harsh but just because somebody is old doesn't make them incapable of insult." I think you have to take in the context. I really don't think an insult was intended and that would be the difference. However the OP feeling shit is the real issue here, she shouldn't feel that way. Though as I said, that's a societal issue. A pressure that's brought to bear on the OP by far more than a one off comment, or it wouldn't impact in that way. People need to be able to feel comfortable as an individual and society should nurture that. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. was she? I would very much imagine she was trying to tell the OP that she's very attractive. It's just not a nice way of doing it. We have value in and of ourselves, but society mainly through the media, minimize that value. The lady probably is from a completely different generation and just doesn't understand herself anymore as an individual, so projects that outwards. as I said earlier my mum (82 married 61 years) thinks along these lines but I don't know that she would tell someone that. Maybe I'm being harsh but just because somebody is old doesn't make them incapable of insult. I think you have to take in the context. I really don't think an insult was intended and that would be the difference. However the OP feeling shit is the real issue here, she shouldn't feel that way. Though as I said, that's a societal issue. A pressure that's brought to bear on the OP by far more than a one off comment, or it wouldn't impact in that way. People need to be able to feel comfortable as an individual and society should nurture that. " yes I agree but I think its also a question of interpretation as well as context and clearly I'm interpreting it differently to others . When it comes down to it none of us know what the elderly lady really meant | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. was she? I would very much imagine she was trying to tell the OP that she's very attractive. It's just not a nice way of doing it. We have value in and of ourselves, but society mainly through the media, minimize that value. The lady probably is from a completely different generation and just doesn't understand herself anymore as an individual, so projects that outwards. as I said earlier my mum (82 married 61 years) thinks along these lines but I don't know that she would tell someone that. Maybe I'm being harsh but just because somebody is old doesn't make them incapable of insult. I think you have to take in the context. I really don't think an insult was intended and that would be the difference. However the OP feeling shit is the real issue here, she shouldn't feel that way. Though as I said, that's a societal issue. A pressure that's brought to bear on the OP by far more than a one off comment, or it wouldn't impact in that way. People need to be able to feel comfortable as an individual and society should nurture that. " | |||
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"So at work today was writing up an invoice for a lovely older couple. . The older woman said I " no wedding ring" I instantly felt really embarrassed, I went red from my chest all the way up my neck and I could feel my face go beetroot !! I felt really awkward and commented something like I was married but not now The older lady the patted me on the hand and said " what a waste of a woman" I know she was being complimentary when she said that... But fuck she has made me feel like shit :-/" May I say I think she sincerely meant it as a compliment. She obviously thought you are special but her saying of it is in the ways of times past. | |||
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"Just wanted to chip in, I think I understand you perfectly OP, and the thread posters have utterly missed the point, yet again x" Have they? I think most 'get it' that the OP realises it wasn't ill intentioned but it still hurt. The impression I get from this thread is that many responders appreciate the pain but are trying to rationalise why the old lady may have said it - generation gap, not thinking, misplaced compliment, whatever. It doesn't mean they don't have empathy - certainly not in my case - I can absolutely understand that it would hurt. But I can also see that I don't think it was *meant* to be a malicious thing hence people are rationalising the old lady's behaviour. | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. " Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image." And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. | |||
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" A bit oversensitive there; and a complete lack of understanding of how different generations think; The poor woman was giving a very nice compliment ( from her point of view)" Agreed. The op had a choice. Brush it off as a generational comment from a well meaning old lady. Tell her she's a cheeky old hag and to keep her fucking opinions for people that asked for it. Or go on a public forum and tell everyone about it. | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result." Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x" | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x" She might have thought she was being nice, that doesn't mean it wasn't really fucking rude. I hope this shit dies off with the older generation. | |||
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"So at work today was writing up an invoice for a lovely older couple. . The older woman said I " no wedding ring" I instantly felt really embarrassed, I went red from my chest all the way up my neck and I could feel my face go beetroot !! I felt really awkward and commented something like I was married but not now The older lady the patted me on the hand and said " what a waste of a woman" I know she was being complimentary when she said that... But fuck she has made me feel like shit :-/" Someone once told me - people dont make you offended, outraged or upset - you choose to have that reaction - so take back control and brush it off like the insensitive comment that it was. She might not have meant to offend and most likely didn't and would be mortified if she thought she upset you but the fault is hers for not judging how her comment might have been received. Your worth and value are not defined by your relationship status - its by whether you have a positive effect on those around you - pretty sure you do xx | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x She might have thought she was being nice, that doesn't mean it wasn't really fucking rude. I hope this shit dies off with the older generation." A generation where no one says anything nice anymore...I hope the fuck not x | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x She might have thought she was being nice, that doesn't mean it wasn't really fucking rude. I hope this shit dies off with the older generation. A generation where no one says anything nice anymore...I hope the fuck not x" A generation where people don't make tactless over-personal comments to strangers about things like their relationship status and whether they have children. I can't wait. | |||
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"Lots of people seem to think they know what the old woman was thinking and what she actually meant...none of us can possibly know that but I will say that being old doesn't make you lovely or nice or less inclined to be tactless." That's very true but age will be a factor in determining the culture, social upbringing and perceived 'norms' that an individual will have. My grandparents values around acceptability were very different to mine based around the era they were brought up. Not particularly relevant here I know and off at a slight tangent, but remember when the Black & White Minstrel show was just a piece of good old family entertainment? Unthinkable now, right? Different era and different 'norms' altogether. | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x She might have thought she was being nice, that doesn't mean it wasn't really fucking rude. I hope this shit dies off with the older generation. A generation where no one says anything nice anymore...I hope the fuck not x A generation where people don't make tactless over-personal comments to strangers about things like their relationship status and whether they have children. I can't wait." Nah....I'll stick with people being nice and take the compliment x | |||
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"Frankly; if the OP " felt like shit" over a simple comment like that, then she has self confidence and self image issues of her own ; it's not the fault of the old lady. Agree with this,a throwaway comment could never elicit such a reaction unless the sentiment somehow resonated with the recipient's self-image. And that's why it's incredibly rude to make throwaway comments like this to strangers - because you don't know what's going on in their lives and how you might make them feel as a result. Fuck sake the wee old woman thought she was being nice x She might have thought she was being nice, that doesn't mean it wasn't really fucking rude. I hope this shit dies off with the older generation. A generation where no one says anything nice anymore...I hope the fuck not x A generation where people don't make tactless over-personal comments to strangers about things like their relationship status and whether they have children. I can't wait." Ive been asked why I havent got children - i said I did have but didn't like them so swapped them for a guitar - and Im the insensitive one it did stop that conversation though x | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. " And it doesn't sound like it was done with malice. Jeez why do people have to cease on the negative aspects? Says alot about people that someone from a different generation can't make a compliment without people turning it into a negative. | |||
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"I think the lady was paying u a compliment as saying how beautiful you are. I honestly don't feel that effectively telling someone their life is being wasted is a compliment. She wasn't - she was saying that any man would be lucky to have her as a wife. It's still outdated, but it's complimentary. It's the kind of thing my gran would have said. And it doesn't sound like it was done with malice. Jeez why do people have to cease on the negative aspects? Says alot about people that someone from a different generation can't make a compliment without people turning it into a negative." Yip give me a compliment from a wee old woman anyway x | |||
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"It's an age thing, she was actually saying nice tits, fancy a fuck? " Exactly what I was going to say! Probably thought "Fuck me she's cute! If only I was back in my playing days I know I'll pay her a compliment". There you go OP you now have that thought instead of feeling shit, feeling better? It was a condescending thing to say but I used to get it too from my nan, as a blunt speaker I used to just say "Fuck off nan" with a grin & she'd laugh.. S | |||
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"Lots of people seem to think they know what the old woman was thinking and what she actually meant...none of us can possibly know that but I will say that being old doesn't make you lovely or nice or less inclined to be tactless. That's very true but age will be a factor in determining the culture, social upbringing and perceived 'norms' that an individual will have. My grandparents values around acceptability were very different to mine based around the era they were brought up. Not particularly relevant here I know and off at a slight tangent, but remember when the Black & White Minstrel show was just a piece of good old family entertainment? Unthinkable now, right? Different era and different 'norms' altogether." Yes I agree with your well made points . I'm just sort of musing on the different possible motives behind the remark. My parents who are both very elderly but would feel patronized to be described as "nice, little old people" have become much more likely to make remarks like this as if it's a right they've somehow earned by living a long time. My opinion is that while there are generational differences it has always been rude to make unasked for remarks on somebody's personal circumstances and being old doesn't excuse it. And I do remember the black and white minstrels...awful as it was. | |||
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"So at work today was writing up an invoice for a lovely older couple. . The older woman said I " no wedding ring" I instantly felt really embarrassed, I went red from my chest all the way up my neck and I could feel my face go beetroot !! I felt really awkward and commented something like I was married but not now The older lady the patted me on the hand and said " what a waste of a woman" I know she was being complimentary when she said that... But fuck she has made me feel like shit :-/" I'd of said...it's in cash converters ,now cough up old bitch | |||
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"So at work today was writing up an invoice for a lovely older couple. . The older woman said I " no wedding ring" I instantly felt really embarrassed, I went red from my chest all the way up my neck and I could feel my face go beetroot !! I felt really awkward and commented something like I was married but not now The older lady the patted me on the hand and said " what a waste of a woman" I know she was being complimentary when she said that... But fuck she has made me feel like shit :-/ I'd of said...it's in cash converters ,now cough up old bitch " Hahaha!!!! You're harsh!!! But it's funny!!! Hahaha!!!! | |||
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"Very interesting reading through the comments on here and feel so many of us do exactly the oppositre without realising it. I wonder how others feel when we force our modern ideas on to them. Modern ideas aren't always better because they're modern....just my thoughts while reading through. We could call by and make you feel better tomorrow though... " Modern ideas like people can have value in their own right? Like a woman hasn't wasted her life if she happens not to be married? My nan was 96 when she died and she'd have told anyone to sod off who made a personal comment like this to her or a member of her family. | |||
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"Something similar happens to me I know don't you don't need to explain yourself to anyone, but when I have to say I'm widowed I think it soon reminds them to be mindful of the fact that you don't know what's going on in other people's lives and that it's quite often none of their business." | |||
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