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"Yes. A friend I knew since I was 18. He called, we went out. I called on his, we went out. He moved to a town 30 mins drive away. The calls exams less frequent, and then stopped. Just the odd text on birthdays, and saw each other when he came home to visit family, or I was passing his. Then realised we hadn't spoke for 5 yrs. I called him and invited him out. 'Excuses' I didn't see him at my 40th. He was invited. Friends move on with their own lives, just as we do. " I see what you mean but I havnt (I haven't got a life either) that's why i need her a bit at the moment. It's just everyone gets so used to me being independent and capable when I ask for help they don't seem to believe me! | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off." yes it is, you need to back off a bit and see if she misses you. i did that, same situation after 10 years..still asked to do things i did, but she wouldn't spend time doing fun stuff..because of a man...lasted about 3 months..and now i say no more and its got onto a new footing x hugs to you.its thoughtless and i hope you can adjust with no major fall out x | |||
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"I've been in your friends shoes (single again now). And sometimes it's easy not to notice how little you see someone. I wouldn't say I lost touch with my friends, but we didn't hang out the way we used to. Maybe there a way you can rewire your friendship. She has other commitments so clubbing probably won't be top of her list. But surely there are ways that you can fit into the life she has now (she has to have now). Have them both over for dinner, maybe with a male friend who can chat awkwardly to her husband while you two catch up. (I've been in that situation too) it gets easier." I'm very much in her life, it's just more like a nanny than her best friend. It's a bit like I've got a supporting role in her life so it runs smoothly. I'd just really like her to help me be the star of mine sometimes | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel" I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him " Then walk away | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him " He's a lazy twat, he has plenty of opportunities but he prefers to go on golf holidays with his mates rather than take his family away | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off." Maybe back off a bit with the childcare. She may realise she was taking you for granted. I'd at least have a proper chat with her and tell her how you feel. | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him Then walk away" She's like my sister, why would I walk away from her and her daughter? They mean rather alot to me! | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off. Maybe back off a bit with the childcare. She may realise she was taking you for granted. I'd at least have a proper chat with her and tell her how you feel. " She knows she takes me for granted and I do chat to her about it but it makes no difference, and yes I should stop the childcare but her daughter is so used to me now it would disrupt her. | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him Then walk away She's like my sister, why would I walk away from her and her daughter? They mean rather alot to me!" If you have told her and she is not prepared to give you back what you seek, put up with it or change the dynamic, or walk away | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him " i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him Then walk away She's like my sister, why would I walk away from her and her daughter? They mean rather alot to me! If you have told her and she is not prepared to give you back what you seek, put up with it or change the dynamic, or walk away " It's not quite as simple as that but thank you | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off. Maybe back off a bit with the childcare. She may realise she was taking you for granted. I'd at least have a proper chat with her and tell her how you feel. She knows she takes me for granted and I do chat to her about it but it makes no difference, and yes I should stop the childcare but her daughter is so used to me now it would disrupt her." kids cope with far more than not seeing someone quite a much | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him Then walk away She's like my sister, why would I walk away from her and her daughter? They mean rather alot to me! If you have told her and she is not prepared to give you back what you seek, put up with it or change the dynamic, or walk away It's not quite as simple as that but thank you " | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit " I do try, but she gets all upset that I'm cross with her. | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit I do try, but she gets all upset that I'm cross with her. " ok tough love time - shes playing you - having her cake and eating it - if you had a life of your own that involved a lot less of hers she might be different -- | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off. Maybe back off a bit with the childcare. She may realise she was taking you for granted. I'd at least have a proper chat with her and tell her how you feel. She knows she takes me for granted and I do chat to her about it but it makes no difference, and yes I should stop the childcare but her daughter is so used to me now it would disrupt her. kids cope with far more than not seeing someone quite a much" Ok, so I'm not saying this in a stroppy way but is this all my fault?? Is this just what people do? As someone else said family comes before friends.. am I not family? Is it normal to chuck friendships away when you get married? I wouldn't know as I've never been married and I havnt got kids etc | |||
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"Family comes before friends in my opinion We are family. " Ok, i have family members who i love alot but hardly see anymore.... things get in the way when your situation changes. It's just a part of life. Hope you can find abit of happiness with her | |||
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"Don't mean this as rude .but uv asked for advice and people have told you .to walk away. Mabey see if she comes running..sounds like ur being used .and ur not faimily .she has a faimily and isn't including you in it...man up .Loads more lassies to be pals with out there " | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off. Maybe back off a bit with the childcare. She may realise she was taking you for granted. I'd at least have a proper chat with her and tell her how you feel. She knows she takes me for granted and I do chat to her about it but it makes no difference, and yes I should stop the childcare but her daughter is so used to me now it would disrupt her. kids cope with far more than not seeing someone quite a much Ok, so I'm not saying this in a stroppy way but is this all my fault?? Is this just what people do? As someone else said family comes before friends.. am I not family? Is it normal to chuck friendships away when you get married? I wouldn't know as I've never been married and I havnt got kids etc" of course youre not family - youre a friend albeit a close one - | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit I do try, but she gets all upset that I'm cross with her. ok tough love time - shes playing you - having her cake and eating it - if you had a life of your own that involved a lot less of hers she might be different -- " I agree but I don't, I've had a really shit few years and I'm struggling to put myself back together and I really need my friends because who else can I turn to? The thought of dealing with it all entirely on my own is terrifying. I realise I probably will have to but I don't really want to. | |||
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"I realise everyone moves on and that, I don't feel I've lost her I just feel shes being a bit fucking selfish seeing as I help her have the life she's wants, for example her husband wouldn't be able to play golf all the time if they had to pay for almost 7 weeks of nusary fees over the summer holiday. I had her almost everyday and she can't be arsed to come and cheer me up at work, it's just a bit off. Maybe back off a bit with the childcare. She may realise she was taking you for granted. I'd at least have a proper chat with her and tell her how you feel. She knows she takes me for granted and I do chat to her about it but it makes no difference, and yes I should stop the childcare but her daughter is so used to me now it would disrupt her." Well if you know that she knows she's taking you for granted then I don't know what to suggest. I wasn't saying you should cut all contact or stop looking after her girl completely, just gradually wean yourself away. One thing I do know having just split with someone is that she no longer feels the way I do. You can't change how she feels. Sorry not very helpful I know | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit I do try, but she gets all upset that I'm cross with her. ok tough love time - shes playing you - having her cake and eating it - if you had a life of your own that involved a lot less of hers she might be different -- I agree but I don't, I've had a really shit few years and I'm struggling to put myself back together and I really need my friends because who else can I turn to? The thought of dealing with it all entirely on my own is terrifying. I realise I probably will have to but I don't really want to." do you not have any other friends beside this one lady | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit I do try, but she gets all upset that I'm cross with her. ok tough love time - shes playing you - having her cake and eating it - if you had a life of your own that involved a lot less of hers she might be different -- I agree but I don't, I've had a really shit few years and I'm struggling to put myself back together and I really need my friends because who else can I turn to? The thought of dealing with it all entirely on my own is terrifying. I realise I probably will have to but I don't really want to. do you not have any other friends beside this one lady" Not really, I work every hour I can and my other friends have partners kids etc, same sort of story except I just sort of accepted it with them as they've always been a bit userish. I'd love to meet new people but I just don't have time, I'm single and I have a home to pay for and a business to run, and I'm trying to make myself better (not terribly successfully but at least I'm still trying!!) | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him i posteed this and not showing so try again - maybe just maybe you are trying too hard for her - let go a little bit I do try, but she gets all upset that I'm cross with her. ok tough love time - shes playing you - having her cake and eating it - if you had a life of your own that involved a lot less of hers she might be different -- I agree but I don't, I've had a really shit few years and I'm struggling to put myself back together and I really need my friends because who else can I turn to? The thought of dealing with it all entirely on my own is terrifying. I realise I probably will have to but I don't really want to. do you not have any other friends beside this one lady Not really, I work every hour I can and my other friends have partners kids etc, same sort of story except I just sort of accepted it with them as they've always been a bit userish. I'd love to meet new people but I just don't have time, I'm single and I have a home to pay for and a business to run, and I'm trying to make myself better (not terribly successfully but at least I'm still trying!!)" there is part of the problem - too much of your time invested in them and not yourself | |||
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"there is also another way of looking at this - love and caring doesnt have to be a two way thing - giving to receive and all that - your friend obviously has all she needs in the way she wants at the mo - but now you need you cannot 'expect' her to give it back - if she cant/wont - not sure ive worded that well" I know what you mean, I've always attracted people that take and thats it. I am a bit of a soft touch, I don't think I've ever had someone thats just my friend so I guess ive slipped into the habit of being useful so people will want me around. It's probably a bit naive to think people will help when they never have before. | |||
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"there is also another way of looking at this - love and caring doesnt have to be a two way thing - giving to receive and all that - your friend obviously has all she needs in the way she wants at the mo - but now you need you cannot 'expect' her to give it back - if she cant/wont - not sure ive worded that well I know what you mean, I've always attracted people that take and thats it. I am a bit of a soft touch, I don't think I've ever had someone thats just my friend so I guess ive slipped into the habit of being useful so people will want me around. It's probably a bit naive to think people will help when they never have before." i do think you have the answer just need the balls to go ahead - youre stronger than you think you know xxx | |||
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"there is also another way of looking at this - love and caring doesnt have to be a two way thing - giving to receive and all that - your friend obviously has all she needs in the way she wants at the mo - but now you need you cannot 'expect' her to give it back - if she cant/wont - not sure ive worded that well I know what you mean, I've always attracted people that take and thats it. I am a bit of a soft touch, I don't think I've ever had someone thats just my friend so I guess ive slipped into the habit of being useful so people will want me around. It's probably a bit naive to think people will help when they never have before. i do think you have the answer just need the balls to go ahead - youre stronger than you think you know xxx" I know, I've carried on through everything but I'm starting to wonder what for, I havnt got a family and my friends don't appear to be friends either. It seems a bit hopeless.and of course I'll rally and keep smiling and working and being super reliable and capable but I still don't even know why I'm doing any of it. | |||
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"You are the enabler that helps the situation you don't like to happen Change that, you may see change Can't guarantee it will be what you seek. Invest that time in you, a hobby. If you can free time for them, you can for you " You make a very good point, if I can work and still take care of a child all summer I can spare and hour to do something different. | |||
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"You are the enabler that helps the situation you don't like to happen Change that, you may see change Can't guarantee it will be what you seek. Invest that time in you, a hobby. If you can free time for them, you can for you You make a very good point, if I can work and still take care of a child all summer I can spare and hour to do something different. " good luck | |||
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"Tell her straight how you feel I have she says it's difficult because her husband is jealous of me because I put more into her family than him Then walk away She's like my sister, why would I walk away from her and her daughter? They mean rather alot to me! If you have told her and she is not prepared to give you back what you seek, put up with it or change the dynamic, or walk away " Exactly this. You know she is using you, I know you wouldn't use those words but that is how it is coming across, and she knows she is using you and doesn't seem to care. So your choices are carry on being used as free childcare or take a step back. I don't mean walk away but it is ok to sometimes say no, after all she did say no to you the other night. Don't be so readily available. | |||
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"You are the enabler that helps the situation you don't like to happen Change that, you may see change Can't guarantee it will be what you seek. Invest that time in you, a hobby. If you can free time for them, you can for you You make a very good point, if I can work and still take care of a child all summer I can spare and hour to do something different. good luck" _iew you always put what people say in 200 in 20 - like that xxx | |||
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"You are the enabler that helps the situation you don't like to happen Change that, you may see change Can't guarantee it will be what you seek. Invest that time in you, a hobby. If you can free time for them, you can for you You make a very good point, if I can work and still take care of a child all summer I can spare and hour to do something different. good luck _iew you always put what people say in 200 in 20 - like that xxx" Thank you | |||
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"So this is a weird and a bit of a deep and meaningful one. I think I'm pondering and maybe after a bit of advice. My best friend and I have been pretty much inseparable for 10 years. We've been through everything together, we have very different ideas and dreams but it's never been an issue. She had her daughter almost 6 years ago (I was her birthing partner)and quickly shaked up with a man (now her husband) obviously things changed which of course is cool and I do alot of the childcare because I'm freelance, again, not a problem as Im not keen on having kids so she's my pretend child! It's just I realise now that we rarely do stuff anymore just the two of us. We havnt been out on the piss for 7 years! I asked her to come and keep me company at work last night (I'm a barmaid) and she made an excuse, even when I pulled the 'I watched you give birth' card. Thing is nothings changed for her... she's got a bloke to hang out with, she can talk to him at 2 in the morning, she doesn't need to come and keep me company like she used too because she's got something better. Has anyone else had this? She's like my sister and I've explained how I feel but she just makes excuses." Im the same since my best mate and i found partners we see each other twice a year now but still text when we can | |||
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"So this is a weird and a bit of a deep and meaningful one. I think I'm pondering and maybe after a bit of advice. My best friend and I have been pretty much inseparable for 10 years. We've been through everything together, we have very different ideas and dreams but it's never been an issue. She had her daughter almost 6 years ago (I was her birthing partner)and quickly shaked up with a man (now her husband) obviously things changed which of course is cool and I do alot of the childcare because I'm freelance, again, not a problem as Im not keen on having kids so she's my pretend child! It's just I realise now that we rarely do stuff anymore just the two of us. We havnt been out on the piss for 7 years! I asked her to come and keep me company at work last night (I'm a barmaid) and she made an excuse, even when I pulled the 'I watched you give birth' card. Thing is nothings changed for her... she's got a bloke to hang out with, she can talk to him at 2 in the morning, she doesn't need to come and keep me company like she used too because she's got something better. Has anyone else had this? She's like my sister and I've explained how I feel but she just makes excuses." I've had similar happen with my bestie of over 20years. I come to the conclusion that we've just be one different people over the years. Sad but it happens. I feel for you but don't dwell on it Hun .its life. | |||
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"So this is a weird and a bit of a deep and meaningful one. I think I'm pondering and maybe after a bit of advice. My best friend and I have been pretty much inseparable for 10 years. We've been through everything together, we have very different ideas and dreams but it's never been an issue. She had her daughter almost 6 years ago (I was her birthing partner)and quickly shaked up with a man (now her husband) obviously things changed which of course is cool and I do alot of the childcare because I'm freelance, again, not a problem as Im not keen on having kids so she's my pretend child! It's just I realise now that we rarely do stuff anymore just the two of us. We havnt been out on the piss for 7 years! I asked her to come and keep me company at work last night (I'm a barmaid) and she made an excuse, even when I pulled the 'I watched you give birth' card. Thing is nothings changed for her... she's got a bloke to hang out with, she can talk to him at 2 in the morning, she doesn't need to come and keep me company like she used too because she's got something better. Has anyone else had this? She's like my sister and I've explained how I feel but she just makes excuses." Children change everything give it time and if you have been that close it will return. People with out kids often do not realise how exhausting it is!! | |||
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"So this is a weird and a bit of a deep and meaningful one. I think I'm pondering and maybe after a bit of advice. My best friend and I have been pretty much inseparable for 10 years. We've been through everything together, we have very different ideas and dreams but it's never been an issue. She had her daughter almost 6 years ago (I was her birthing partner)and quickly shaked up with a man (now her husband) obviously things changed which of course is cool and I do alot of the childcare because I'm freelance, again, not a problem as Im not keen on having kids so she's my pretend child! It's just I realise now that we rarely do stuff anymore just the two of us. We havnt been out on the piss for 7 years! I asked her to come and keep me company at work last night (I'm a barmaid) and she made an excuse, even when I pulled the 'I watched you give birth' card. Thing is nothings changed for her... she's got a bloke to hang out with, she can talk to him at 2 in the morning, she doesn't need to come and keep me company like she used too because she's got something better. Has anyone else had this? She's like my sister and I've explained how I feel but she just makes excuses. I've had similar happen with my bestie of over 20years. I come to the conclusion that we've just be one different people over the years. Sad but it happens. I feel for you but don't dwell on it Hun .its life. " Thank you x | |||
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"So this is a weird and a bit of a deep and meaningful one. I think I'm pondering and maybe after a bit of advice. My best friend and I have been pretty much inseparable for 10 years. We've been through everything together, we have very different ideas and dreams but it's never been an issue. She had her daughter almost 6 years ago (I was her birthing partner)and quickly shaked up with a man (now her husband) obviously things changed which of course is cool and I do alot of the childcare because I'm freelance, again, not a problem as Im not keen on having kids so she's my pretend child! It's just I realise now that we rarely do stuff anymore just the two of us. We havnt been out on the piss for 7 years! I asked her to come and keep me company at work last night (I'm a barmaid) and she made an excuse, even when I pulled the 'I watched you give birth' card. Thing is nothings changed for her... she's got a bloke to hang out with, she can talk to him at 2 in the morning, she doesn't need to come and keep me company like she used too because she's got something better. Has anyone else had this? She's like my sister and I've explained how I feel but she just makes excuses. Children change everything give it time and if you have been that close it will return. People with out kids often do not realise how exhausting it is!!" I do know given I look after her child a massive percentage of the time. | |||
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