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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " I've considered what you say. And i think I'll continue not wasting time getting to know someone and then discovering i don't find them physically attractive. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " No .. I request a face pic .. if you cba to send one that's your lookout but you won't get very far without it .. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " You need to think about this OP.. you should keep your face pic private and attach to a message.. it shouldn't be plastered over your profile if you want to be discreet .... doh! | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. " Not all. And yes, why would I waste time chatting with someone it eventuality turns out I don't find physically attractive? Especially when for every one that refuses to send a picture (what am I going to do, report you to your boss for doing exactly what I'm doing?), they're are 30 that do. | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. " I never send first messages.. and if I did I would still not bother as most men don't care what we look like in their pursuit of clunge | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " We all have jobs etc to consider and no its not unreasonable to ask for a face pic with a first message. Would you really meet someone sight unseen? | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. Not all. And yes, why would I waste time chatting with someone it eventuality turns out I don't find physically attractive? Especially when for every one that refuses to send a picture (what am I going to do, report you to your boss for doing exactly what I'm doing?), they're are 30 that do. " I'm not knocking people's choices, but I'm just pointing out that a woman that expects a face pic sent her then messages a guy without sending one.. like we have no right to see who we are chatting to, we just need to take what's on offer? Why is it just ok for a woman to want to see who she is chatting to? If you're not prepared to send a face pic with a first message then personally I think you'd be a twat to expect one | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " so you wear a gimp mask for all meets so no one knows who you are at all?..not impossible but unlikely.. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " 1. I wouldn't say more common, I'd say common. 2. It's mainly messages without a face pic that get deleted. And those with face pics that the recipient doesn't find hot enough to have a conversation with. 3. Think about some good women who might have careers to think about! OP it's the nature of the site, men 'go' first in the face pic game. If a guy doesn't want to send one that's fine. We've got a ton more messages in our inbox from guys who will | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " Interesting stats on response rate. Single guys outnumber women about 10 to 1. I don't demand a face pic. Not at first. But then I have time to figure out if I want to meet someone when I'm not too busy in my own career. And if he comes across even remotely petulant then I wouldn't bother. | |||
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"I ask for a face pic with a first message. It seems pointless to chat for ages, then when you see a face pic and realise you're not attracted to them, you then have to tell them that and all your conversation was a waste of time. " Pretty fair as you have face pics in your profile | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. " How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! Interesting stats on response rate. Single guys outnumber women about 10 to 1. I don't demand a face pic. Not at first. But then I have time to figure out if I want to meet someone when I'm not too busy in my own career. And if he comes across even remotely petulant then I wouldn't bother." I'm the same as you here, I don't demand. I very rarely send out face pics. Some guys are cool with that, others get all bratish and badger (without sending one of themselves, I might add) | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far " How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me " This... | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " Nope - disagree entirely! On the rare occasion that I message a guy first I attach a face pic - I simply expect the same in return! As a site supporter you have the option of deleting the pic once it's been seen if you have a really 'sensitive' job - though I find this practice irritating as I save a face pic if I'm interested so I can look back sporadically during future conversations to remind myself what they look like! X | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me This... " Did you read the bit about her sending a face pic with the first message? | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself " Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " OP no one is forcing you to send a face picture if you don't want to send one pass on by the profiles asking for one . I to am not comfortable with the idea of sending out a face picture due to small business I own that means I have the potential to be recognised by a couple of thousand people . But if I really like the profile in question I will send a picture this works for me because that way I'm being picky and taking a calculated risk that I'm happy with . May I suggest you adopt the same approach as this in regards to your situation . | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me This... Did you read the bit about her sending a face pic with the first message? " Yes of course! She sends one with the first message because she expects the same in return, she doesn't have double standards! I agree with the way this woman works on here | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me This... love your pics miss tissington.x Did you read the bit about her sending a face pic with the first message? " | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it " Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me This... Did you read the bit about her sending a face pic with the first message? Yes of course! She sends one with the first message because she expects the same in return, she doesn't have double standards! I agree with the way this woman works on here " But a man shouldn't have to send a face pic with a first message because some women don't??? | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " Well done mate, most of the "princess" don't have face pic or after you send them they're too proud of themselves to sending you even message back. That's why I'm here just for fun and forum. Take care mate | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me This... Did you read the bit about her sending a face pic with the first message? Yes of course! She sends one with the first message because she expects the same in return, she doesn't have double standards! I agree with the way this woman works on here But a man shouldn't have to send a face pic with a first message because some women don't??? " No a man should send one if he wants to same as a woman, I'm referring to those that expect one sent but wont send one themselves when they message first, as stated way above in the thread | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! " So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " What does my head in is when ask for a face pic yet they have none and when you ask I can't show face as of job or partner family etc well send in private. | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted." I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me This... Did you read the bit about her sending a face pic with the first message? Yes of course! She sends one with the first message because she expects the same in return, she doesn't have double standards! I agree with the way this woman works on here But a man shouldn't have to send a face pic with a first message because some women don't??? No a man should send one if he wants to same as a woman, I'm referring to those that expect one sent but wont send one themselves when they message first, as stated way above in the thread " Its only happened to me once, A Woman asked to see my face pic, I replied with as you sent the message you send me your pic, The stand off lasted a couple more messages until she stopped messaging me | |||
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"I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself " Nobody has a right to anything on here. I don't demand a face pic, I ask politely and if a man chooses to send one that is his choice entirely. Having rights to things is a trait of the entitled. | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site" Have you offended admin? | |||
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"I wouldn't send a face picture with a first message so I don't demand the same from a man. It does need to be shared quite early on in the messaging though. " I agree Ruby. Very sensible attitude! X | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site Have you offended admin? " No I'm referring to the single women that think they call the shots, not all single women mind.. just the arrogant ones that expect and demand because they are the minority on here, so if you have on your profile that you expect a face pic with the first message but then when you message someone first you won't send a face pic then I'm referring to you! Please feel free to be offended | |||
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"What you need to understand OP, is that even the most pig-faced, rancid swamp donkey on here, still receives at least 10,000 messages per minute (and that's at off-peak times) from single guys. The ratio of single guys to women on here is somewhere in the region of 786,000,000:1 and with all those facepic-less messages flooding their inboxes minute upon minute, hour upon hour, day after day; they just don't have time to reply to every message. I mean imagine the amount of time it takes to respond to an initial message with a short but concise sentence indicating whether it is worth your while replying and sending a face picture! The women just don't have the time for it! Would you waste 20-30 seconds of your time replying to someone who had just sent you a message but was too damn lazy to even send a picture of their face? What if they were ugly? You would never get that time back, would you? And then you'd lose even more time grieving over the time you had lost to some lazy oik, who couldn't even be bothered to attach a picture of their face! Now there are only 2 possible reasons why the single male subhuman scum wouldn't attach a face picture with their messages. Either they are ugly, or even worse they MUST be cheating on their wife or partner! How disgusting! Also they are well within their rights to make such a simple request, and if they message first (this almost never happens), why the fuck should they have to send one to you? After all you are but a worthless single male, completely disposable and very easily replaceable! Whereas they wouldn't want their privacy invaded by sending their face to a complete stranger who might not even be interested in them... I hope that clears up the issue for you... " | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site Have you offended admin? No I'm referring to the single women that think they call the shots, not all single women mind.. just the arrogant ones that expect and demand because they are the minority on here, so if you have on your profile that you expect a face pic with the first message but then when you message someone first you won't send a face pic then I'm referring to you! Please feel free to be offended " No offence taken here. I've never demanded anything from anyone. I'm just amazed that people are bothered that some people choose to run their profiles in such a way. Seems like a waste of energy getting your knickers in a twist about it. That's all. | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site Have you offended admin? No I'm referring to the single women that think they call the shots, not all single women mind.. just the arrogant ones that expect and demand because they are the minority on here, so if you have on your profile that you expect a face pic with the first message but then when you message someone first you won't send a face pic then I'm referring to you! Please feel free to be offended No offence taken here. I've never demanded anything from anyone. I'm just amazed that people are bothered that some people choose to run their profiles in such a way. Seems like a waste of energy getting your knickers in a twist about it. That's all." My face is plastered over my profile, it doesn't bother me who sees my face, I dont even ask for a face pic myself, I was just highlighting something I found funny! Then knickers got twisted | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site Have you offended admin? No I'm referring to the single women that think they call the shots, not all single women mind.. just the arrogant ones that expect and demand because they are the minority on here, so if you have on your profile that you expect a face pic with the first message but then when you message someone first you won't send a face pic then I'm referring to you! Please feel free to be offended No offence taken here. I've never demanded anything from anyone. I'm just amazed that people are bothered that some people choose to run their profiles in such a way. Seems like a waste of energy getting your knickers in a twist about it. That's all. My face is plastered over my profile, it doesn't bother me who sees my face, I dont even ask for a face pic myself, I was just highlighting something I found funny! Then knickers got twisted" Just don't give yourself a wedgie | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site Have you offended admin? No I'm referring to the single women that think they call the shots, not all single women mind.. just the arrogant ones that expect and demand because they are the minority on here, so if you have on your profile that you expect a face pic with the first message but then when you message someone first you won't send a face pic then I'm referring to you! Please feel free to be offended No offence taken here. I've never demanded anything from anyone. I'm just amazed that people are bothered that some people choose to run their profiles in such a way. Seems like a waste of energy getting your knickers in a twist about it. That's all. My face is plastered over my profile, it doesn't bother me who sees my face, I dont even ask for a face pic myself, I was just highlighting something I found funny! Then knickers got twisted Just don't give yourself a wedgie " I've stopped wearing thongs for that reason | |||
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"Ok! I don't care now! I just want chocolate! Who's got chocolate! It's my sex substitute during the school hols! Im just going to hijack every thread with chocolate requests until I get some!!! ( why is there no stamping feet emoji??? ) I have maltesers I'll bring hot chocolate! I'd rather have prosecco " You're on! But I'm sticking with the coco! I'll bring you a bottle to yourself! (No kissing emoji either - we need more emojis! ) xx | |||
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"Ok! I don't care now! I just want chocolate! Who's got chocolate! It's my sex substitute during the school hols! Im just going to hijack every thread with chocolate requests until I get some!!! ( why is there no stamping feet emoji??? ) I have maltesers I'll bring hot chocolate! I'd rather have prosecco You're on! But I'm sticking with the coco! I'll bring you a bottle to yourself! (No kissing emoji either - we need more emojis! ) xx" I've got a giant Toblerone going spare. | |||
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"I think a few people misunderstood my point about face pics. I would expect to exchange them once chatting and certainly before a meet its just sending one out speculatively that I'm not into. I got your point about that but, like others have said above, if we gave every guy who messages us the change to chat we'd have no time to ourselves. Plus who wants to chat to a man, think he's worth meeting and then discover you don't fancy him? And then have to reject him once he thinks he's getting somewhere. That would be awful Yeah point taken. I might rethink my position which has to be a first for me! X Can't see your face but you do look potentially quite yummy " Thanks, you too. Why do you and those lovely boobs have to be all of the way down in Grantham?! x | |||
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"Personally, I don't bow to pic demands... unless it's for tie Tuesday, or face pic Friday, or suit tuesday, or actually I am a pic whore... Damn " You have a great smile | |||
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"Personally, I don't bow to pic demands... unless it's for tie Tuesday, or face pic Friday, or suit tuesday, or actually I am a pic whore... Damn You have a great smile " As do you M'Lady | |||
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"What you need to understand OP, is that even the most pig-faced, rancid swamp donkey on here, still receives at least 10,000 messages per minute (and that's at off-peak times) from single guys. The ratio of single guys to women on here is somewhere in the region of 786,000,000:1 and with all those facepic-less messages flooding their inboxes minute upon minute, hour upon hour, day after day; they just don't have time to reply to every message. I mean imagine the amount of time it takes to respond to an initial message with a short but concise sentence indicating whether it is worth your while replying and sending a face picture! The women just don't have the time for it! Would you waste 20-30 seconds of your time replying to someone who had just sent you a message but was too damn lazy to even send a picture of their face? What if they were ugly? You would never get that time back, would you? And then you'd lose even more time grieving over the time you had lost to some lazy oik, who couldn't even be bothered to attach a picture of their face! Now there are only 2 possible reasons why the single male subhuman scum wouldn't attach a face picture with their messages. Either they are ugly, or even worse they MUST be cheating on their wife or partner! How disgusting! Also they are well within their rights to make such a simple request, and if they message first (this almost never happens), why the fuck should they have to send one to you? After all you are but a worthless single male, completely disposable and very easily replaceable! Whereas they wouldn't want their privacy invaded by sending their face to a complete stranger who might not even be interested in them... I hope that clears up the issue for you... " V Funny | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! I've considered what you say. And i think I'll continue not wasting time getting to know someone and then discovering i don't find them physically attractive." This! | |||
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"I don't demand anything in a message but I see little point chatting to someone only to think 'oh crap they're not my type' X amount of messages later. Also it's really easy to bypass any profile that you think is demanding, no one is forced to comply " I don't the OP is on about exchanging loads of messages before sending a facepic. I think he (and many other people) don't like the idea of sending a facepic to someone who may not even be interested in them without seeing it. Ie they want to meet people taller than you, or with a different build. Also if you bypass every profile that is demanding, it doesn't leave many left... | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! I've considered what you say. And i think I'll continue not wasting time getting to know someone and then discovering i don't find them physically attractive." I agree if not physical attractive to me then wasting both our time. I don't always ask for face pic right away | |||
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"Wow !!!! Somethings never change !!! Haven't been around for a bit and this was the kind of question being asked all the time. Answer is simple .... If the lady wants a face pic either give her one or don't and forget about it. Your choice really so move on my friend you have missed opportunities while you were busy ranting " Can I see a face pic please | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. " Funny as aint it but tells all you need to know. A one way persona will be one way on a few fronts | |||
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"Wow !!!! Somethings never change !!! Haven't been around for a bit and this was the kind of question being asked all the time. Answer is simple .... If the lady wants a face pic either give her one or don't and forget about it. Your choice really so move on my friend you have missed opportunities while you were busy ranting Can I see a face pic please " I was going to send you one as I can't seem to resist that fluttering eyes emoji but it appears you've blocked my sex in both senses of the word x | |||
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"Wow !!!! Somethings never change !!! Haven't been around for a bit and this was the kind of question being asked all the time. Answer is simple .... If the lady wants a face pic either give her one or don't and forget about it. Your choice really so move on my friend you have missed opportunities while you were busy ranting Can I see a face pic please I was going to send you one as I can't seem to resist that fluttering eyes emoji but it appears you've blocked my sex in both senses of the word x " I've blocked everyone so don't take it personally OP. Here, have a flutter | |||
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"Wow !!!! Somethings never change !!! Haven't been around for a bit and this was the kind of question being asked all the time. Answer is simple .... If the lady wants a face pic either give her one or don't and forget about it. Your choice really so move on my friend you have missed opportunities while you were busy ranting Can I see a face pic please I was going to send you one as I can't seem to resist that fluttering eyes emoji but it appears you've blocked my sex in both senses of the word x I've blocked everyone so don't take it personally OP. Here, have a flutter " I didn't. Thanks for the flutter. I'll look forward to spamming you when you unblock us all xx | |||
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"A face pic with first message ensures that it isn't a faimily member ect .as nobody knows who's on here .and if .I want to chat to them yea it's poilte to send one back.also if u don't fancy each other than saves all that chatt" That is surely a very good reason as to why you wouldn't want to send a facepic to someone that you don't know... | |||
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"A face pic with first message ensures that it isn't a faimily member ect .as nobody knows who's on here .and if .I want to chat to them yea it's poilte to send one back.also if u don't fancy each other than saves all that chatt That is surely a very good reason as to why you wouldn't want to send a facepic to someone that you don't know... " Exactly! How awkward would that be!! | |||
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"A face pic with first message ensures that it isn't a faimily member ect .as nobody knows who's on here .and if .I want to chat to them yea it's poilte to send one back.also if u don't fancy each other than saves all that chatt That is surely a very good reason as to why you wouldn't want to send a facepic to someone that you don't know... Exactly! How awkward would that be!! " that's why if the guy .or girls sends one .and its somebody u know then u can say naw not my type and leave it at that ..no embarising Oh I know u scenario | |||
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"Back in the day, when I was meeting new people, I asked on my profile that a face pic be attached to any first messages. However, if I sent a first message I always attached a face pic, and if someone sent me one I always sent one back even if it was attached to a 'no thank you' message. It's just common sense to me " Nice to see common sence and fair play in action from lovely women like you. Kudos to you!! | |||
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"A face pic with first message ensures that it isn't a faimily member ect .as nobody knows who's on here .and if .I want to chat to them yea it's poilte to send one back.also if u don't fancy each other than saves all that chatt That is surely a very good reason as to why you wouldn't want to send a facepic to someone that you don't know... Exactly! How awkward would that be!! that's why if the guy .or girls sends one .and its somebody u know then u can say naw not my type and leave it at that ..no embarising Oh I know u scenario " Until it's your sister or mother that you've sent it to... That'll be fun at the next family get together! | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. Seriously? How you know the amount of women? I certainly don't send first messages!And yes I would like to know if I fancy the guy! Before I waste my Latin! I'm referring to the amount of women that message me first without adding a face pic but on their profile insist on one with an opening message from a male! Read the whole thread it was explained in it! I'm not against sending or receiving face pics, I'm just against double standards! Don't expect people to do what you're not prepared to do yourself! I'd say you just wasted your "Latin" " Well said !! | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. Seriously? How you know the amount of women? I certainly don't send first messages!And yes I would like to know if I fancy the guy! Before I waste my Latin! I'm referring to the amount of women that message me first without adding a face pic but on their profile insist on one with an opening message from a male! Read the whole thread it was explained in it! I'm not against sending or receiving face pics, I'm just against double standards! Don't expect people to do what you're not prepared to do yourself! I'd say you just wasted your "Latin" " I ask guys to send face pics first if I message them and I don't attach face pictures. 9 times out of 10 they aren't what I'm looking for so it's pointless showing them what they could've had only to dash their hopes. | |||
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"Also the whole career thing is bullshit. There is nothing you do in your spare time that would affect your job that much, unless you was some kind of public figure. Plus what secret job do you have that they would be monitoring a poxy site like this. Don't be so naive. There would be career implications for a lot of people. There certainly would for me." boohoo | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself " Tell that to the numerous guys on here that seem to think anal sex with a woman is their right, but start saying things like "my arse is exit only" when I mention my strap-on. | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it " Quite! | |||
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"Also the whole career thing is bullshit. There is nothing you do in your spare time that would affect your job that much, unless you was some kind of public figure. Plus what secret job do you have that they would be monitoring a poxy site like this. Don't be so naive. There would be career implications for a lot of people. There certainly would for me. boohoo" Sarky much? Some of us have proper careers. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " Being on Fab isn't obligatory. You join with your criteria of who you'll meet and how you go about finding said playmates. You browse profiles, if they don't meet what you're looking for in anyway shape or form, you move onto the next one as you're not compatible. Result: no drama, no angst, no rant. Honestly, it really is that simple. It's worked for me, never needed to rant about how others run their profiles in seven years. | |||
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"If I don't get a face pic with the first message or if there isn't one public on their profile I will delete the message. Purely because I don't like awkward situations and in the past when I've asked for a face pic and not been attracted to them I've been met with abuse. So you're free to think that women are unreasonable but I'm free to run my profile exactly the way I fucking like it and you have no right to say otherwise. So if you don't like profiles that ask for a face pic, ignore them. " | |||
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"Your choices are; a. send a face pic. b. don't send a face pic." | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. I never send first messages.. and if I did I would still not bother as most men don't care what we look like in their pursuit of clunge " Ha ha!! Well must say I always think a face pic for both to see is always important!! Got to like looking at the mantle piece if you're poking the fire | |||
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""Women in 'want to see if they fancy you before they agree to shag you' shocker" Bloody women. Think they rule the world. Don't they know it's instashag? " | |||
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"They can ask, doesn't mean you have to follow the request.. their profile their choices, your choice whether you do., If I send an introductory message that I hope might lead to a meeting I include my face picture even if they've not specifically requested it... Those who message me first off with a view to a meeting I d like to see theirs in an early message. " | |||
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"OP send a face pic or don't send a face pic...your choice. But don't bitch about it when your messages are overlooked in favour of guys that do! I don't engage with anyone I'm not attracted to hence why I ask for one straight off. And since I'm not proactive in sending messages I never send a pic first either. My profile, my rules. Feel free to pass me by if you can't meet my requirements " | |||
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"I have no issue with not being sent one, it's the message and profile itself that either interests me mentally or not however good looking or not someone might be. " This for me too. | |||
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"What's funny is the amount of women that send a message without a face pic but state on their profile that they want one sent with every first message! Must be thst old double standard things going on. How is that funny? It's not even double standards. It's just how the Fab 'game' works. The one in a million odd men who feel entitled to things happening the way they want isn't going to get them very far How isn't is double standards? A woman expects a face with with every first message, but wont do the same herself? That's exactly what it is... not that I give a flying fart about me sending a face pic as I'm hiding nothing, I just don't think you should have the right to expect something you're not prepared to do yourself Who decided that women as a whole don't send face pics first? You wouldn't be tarring us all with the same brush would you? ....which i believe us women aren't allowed to do because the single genuine guys always complain about it Sorry did I state women as a whole? I'm referring to those that request a pic but don't send one themselves when they send the first message! So what's the problem then? Don't converse with those who behave in such a way. Sorted. I was just highlighting some irony that I've come across on here that was relative to the post, I should keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend those that "run" the site Have you offended admin? No I'm referring to the single women that think they call the shots, not all single women mind.. just the arrogant ones that expect and demand because they are the minority on here, so if you have on your profile that you expect a face pic with the first message but then when you message someone first you won't send a face pic then I'm referring to you! Please feel free to be offended No offence taken here. I've never demanded anything from anyone. I'm just amazed that people are bothered that some people choose to run their profiles in such a way. Seems like a waste of energy getting your knickers in a twist about it. That's all." I don't get it either! | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! 1. I wouldn't say more common, I'd say common. 2. It's mainly messages without a face pic that get deleted. And those with face pics that the recipient doesn't find hot enough to have a conversation with. 3. Think about some good women who might have careers to think about! OP it's the nature of the site, men 'go' first in the face pic game. If a guy doesn't want to send one that's fine. We've got a ton more messages in our inbox from guys who will " | |||
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"Also the whole career thing is bullshit. There is nothing you do in your spare time that would affect your job that much, unless you was some kind of public figure. Plus what secret job do you have that they would be monitoring a poxy site like this. " I work for a trade union in employment law. I wouldn't have a job if that were the case. | |||
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"Wow I've really started something here! Thanks for your opinions it's especially great to hear a girls point of view. I take the point that you are all swamped with messages so as people have said its a good differentiator. I think a few people misunderstood my point about face pics. I would expect to exchange them once chatting and certainly before a meet its just sending one out speculatively that I'm not into. I guess I'll just have to suffer the lower success rate " I neither do that nor demand it - I swap face pics only if I think I may be interested in meeting after a few messages, l like the privacy. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! I've considered what you say. And i think I'll continue not wasting time getting to know someone and then discovering i don't find them physically attractive." Nail on the head, also it's a good filter for men who do message and don't include a picture you know they haven't read your profile so double block, (platinum membership) | |||
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"Also the whole career thing is bullshit. There is nothing you do in your spare time that would affect your job that much, unless you was some kind of public figure. Plus what secret job do you have that they would be monitoring a poxy site like this. " Its not a question on monitoring - I have my own business and I would not want my clients knowing I was on here, nor people in my social circle to be honest, so I choose not to share my face pic with people I know I do not want to meet. | |||
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" Its not a question on monitoring - I have my own business and I would not want my clients knowing I was on here, nor people in my social circle to be honest, so I choose not to share my face pic with people I know I do not want to meet. " That's a fair comment. | |||
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"For us exchange of face pics are essential at earliest communication. I find it unnatural to chat to someone when I don't know they look like, and we certainly would not expect someone to chat to us if they don't know what we look like. If we get to know someone for the first time at a club or a party, the face and clothed body is what we see before chatting. But with the Internet it seems more normal to know what someone's genetalia looks like before any other information is exchanged! Are we not getting our priorities wrong here? Secondly I do like to avoid awkward situations, and to me there is nothing more awkward that to chat to someone, to later find that I don't fancy him. It's not about whether they are ugly or not. I've rejected men who are total players on the scene and are considered very attractive. But if they don't do anything for me, there's not much I can do. I've also played with men who are more average in appearance, but I fancy them and that's what matters. At the end of the day I know who I'm capable of fancying and who I could never fancy. Admittedly it's a bit unfair, because those who are considered good-looking by most people's standards will always find it easier, but thats the same in vanilla life. This is possibly something men find harder to understand, as I've had men requesting some fun just from seeing our public pictures where my face is partially obscured. The impression I get is that they don't need to see my face to make that decision to go bed with me. Women I guess are a bit different and a face is very important. The OP says that by women being rigid about this sort of thing potentially means missing out. Yes that's true, and I've no doubt we have passed by numerous quality men, because there is insufficient information at first glance for my interest to be piqued. However, we don't feel we are really missing out because we have enough to be getting on with on the swing scene and else is a bonus. You could turn that the other way, in that this men are fishing in a much smaller fish pond, reducing the likelihood of having some fun with the lady of their choice. Us, we are an open book. We have a comprehensive profile text, we display all our relevant verifications, our partial faces are in our public gallery and full clear faces in 'friends only' gallery. We send face pics if we make the first move, and we return face pics to anyone we are interested in. In short we provide as much information as possible for soneone to make a judgement as to whether we are for them. And that's all we ask in return. With regards to jobs, I've never really understood what people are worried about. We both have professional jobs. But I'm not sure what I should be worried about happening to our facepics. They could just as easily have come from Facebook. Should I be worried that someone is going to copy these pictures to my boss? Even if they knew where I worked, it's just a face, it doesn't prove anything. " "Thankfully" that naivety keeps me employed. People lose their jobs from comments they've made on social media, WhatsApp groups, posing in lingerie on adult sites etc. The people I represent are governed by a code of ethics and conduct they sign up to on employment, bringing said employment into "disrepute" could and does lead to dismissal. Personally, I think what I do behind closed doors is my business, but if I had a job where my employer thought otherwise I wouldn't chance it. | |||
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"Hi, Just a bit of a rant I suppose as it's not going to change anything. It seems to be more and more common that girls will say messages will be deleted if you don't include a face pic. Given the nature of the site and the fact that probably only about 1 in 10 messages actually gets a reply I think it's unreasonable to expect guys to send a face pic with their first message. Would people agree or is it just me? Ladies think twice as you are missing out on some good guys who might have careers to think about! Rant over! " No one is forcing you to do anything.it's your choice whether you send or not,just as its their choice to ask for one. | |||
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"For us exchange of face pics are essential at earliest communication. I find it unnatural to chat to someone when I don't know they look like, and we certainly would not expect someone to chat to us if they don't know what we look like. If we get to know someone for the first time at a club or a party, the face and clothed body is what we see before chatting. But with the Internet it seems more normal to know what someone's genetalia looks like before any other information is exchanged! Are we not getting our priorities wrong here? Secondly I do like to avoid awkward situations, and to me there is nothing more awkward that to chat to someone, to later find that I don't fancy him. It's not about whether they are ugly or not. I've rejected men who are total players on the scene and are considered very attractive. But if they don't do anything for me, there's not much I can do. I've also played with men who are more average in appearance, but I fancy them and that's what matters. At the end of the day I know who I'm capable of fancying and who I could never fancy. Admittedly it's a bit unfair, because those who are considered good-looking by most people's standards will always find it easier, but thats the same in vanilla life. This is possibly something men find harder to understand, as I've had men requesting some fun just from seeing our public pictures where my face is partially obscured. The impression I get is that they don't need to see my face to make that decision to go bed with me. Women I guess are a bit different and a face is very important. The OP says that by women being rigid about this sort of thing potentially means missing out. Yes that's true, and I've no doubt we have passed by numerous quality men, because there is insufficient information at first glance for my interest to be piqued. However, we don't feel we are really missing out because we have enough to be getting on with on the swing scene and else is a bonus. You could turn that the other way, in that this men are fishing in a much smaller fish pond, reducing the likelihood of having some fun with the lady of their choice. Us, we are an open book. We have a comprehensive profile text, we display all our relevant verifications, our partial faces are in our public gallery and full clear faces in 'friends only' gallery. We send face pics if we make the first move, and we return face pics to anyone we are interested in. In short we provide as much information as possible for soneone to make a judgement as to whether we are for them. And that's all we ask in return. With regards to jobs, I've never really understood what people are worried about. We both have professional jobs. But I'm not sure what I should be worried about happening to our facepics. They could just as easily have come from Facebook. Should I be worried that someone is going to copy these pictures to my boss? Even if they knew where I worked, it's just a face, it doesn't prove anything. "Thankfully" that naivety keeps me employed. People lose their jobs from comments they've made on social media, WhatsApp groups, posing in lingerie on adult sites etc. The people I represent are governed by a code of ethics and conduct they sign up to on employment, bringing said employment into "disrepute" could and does lead to dismissal. Personally, I think what I do behind closed doors is my business, but if I had a job where my employer thought otherwise I wouldn't chance it. " I hear what you're saying. It's a shame that in a world of political correctness and equal opportubities, those who legally enjoy their sexual freedom, can still be subject to prejudice in certain work places. | |||
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