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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. " Cost a lot less if they hung the fucker. | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. " Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him. | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him." Would you? Would you really just kill him? I find it quite amusing how people say that could easily just kill somebody, I don't know maybe people do find murder that easy....oh yeah people like Peter Sutcliffe | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner " Call me cynical but I think that is literally the plan,Sutcliffe has had enough cheeseburgers and parties so it's time to make room for the next psychos. He will be dead quite soon | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him. Would you? Would you really just kill him? I find it quite amusing how people say that could easily just kill somebody, I don't know maybe people do find murder that easy....oh yeah people like Peter Sutcliffe " Hahahaha errrrrrr | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner " This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers | |||
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"There was a piece on R4 some months ago about this....Sutcliffe apparently had the same psychiatrist for many years but this recently changed, and the new one's opinion was that Sutcliffe no longer had a mental disorder. Perhaps it's quite common in the mental health field: new psychiatrist, new diagnosis, or in this case no diagnosis at all. " The government will pick the psychiatrist who will diagnose what they want to be diagnosed | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers" He won't be safe on the protection wing either,he is the nonce of all nonces and is scum even in nonces eyes+ getting him will be some cretins meal ticket for life | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers" The report I saw said he'll never be released ... Hopefully they'll find a very deep dark hole and leave him in there. Wonder what the psychiatrist would make of the forums ?????? | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers He won't be safe on the protection wing either,he is the nonce of all nonces and is scum even in nonces eyes+ getting him will be some cretins meal ticket for life " Isn't nonce a expression for a child sex offender? I don't recall him ever being convicted for sex crimes against children?? | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers He won't be safe on the protection wing either,he is the nonce of all nonces and is scum even in nonces eyes+ getting him will be some cretins meal ticket for life Isn't nonce a expression for a child sex offender? I don't recall him ever being convicted for sex crimes against children??" Correct. Not terribly PC but it's what they call sex offenders against children. And yes, he still won't be released and in comparison to the Broadmoor regime, relocation to a Cat-A prison won't seem so cushy | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers The report I saw said he'll never be released ... Hopefully they'll find a very deep dark hole and leave him in there. Wonder what the psychiatrist would make of the forums ?????? " Any forensic psychiatrist would be alarmed by some of the bloodthirsty comments | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers The report I saw said he'll never be released ... Hopefully they'll find a very deep dark hole and leave him in there. Wonder what the psychiatrist would make of the forums ?????? Any forensic psychiatrist would be alarmed by some of the bloodthirsty comments " I'm not defending his crimes or similar crimes committed by anybody else But when people go in about killing such people and say things like they wouldn't loose any sleep over it that to me it's slightly worrying, that somebody against murder openly admit they could kill and be ok with it Does not say much for their state if mind either to me | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. " . It helps the general population with they're own mental health to belive in monsters.... nobody wants to think relatively normal people do horrendous acts!.... However there you have it, relatively normal people who hold down jobs and families | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. . It helps the general population with they're own mental health to belive in monsters.... nobody wants to think relatively normal people do horrendous acts!.... However there you have it, relatively normal people who hold down jobs and families " Normal people do kill though Look at John Wayne Gacey Pillow of the community, did lots for clarity, own his own company, married with kids, held a normal family life, was well loved and respected by everybody in his community Even at his trail there was nothing to suggest he had any mental problems what so ever, and he was examined by a number of people, nobody could find anything wrong with him mentally | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him. Would you? Would you really just kill him? I find it quite amusing how people say that could easily just kill somebody, I don't know maybe people do find murder that easy....oh yeah people like Peter Sutcliffe " In answer to your first question - yes. In answer to what I can only describe as a comparison of such actions perhaps you should consider the motives behind such feelings, there are many many people out there who have been directly affected by the actions of such monsters as him, and I'm one of those affected, so yes, I'd happily slot the twat. | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him. Would you? Would you really just kill him? I find it quite amusing how people say that could easily just kill somebody, I don't know maybe people do find murder that easy....oh yeah people like Peter Sutcliffe In answer to your first question - yes. In answer to what I can only describe as a comparison of such actions perhaps you should consider the motives behind such feelings, there are many many people out there who have been directly affected by the actions of such monsters as him, and I'm one of those affected, so yes, I'd happily slot the twat." Fair enough We are all different Personally if I went out and killed somebody in cold blood for something that had not affected me how does that make me any better than them? Don't get me wrong if I saw somebody being attacked I would help, if in the struggle that person died then that's just shit luck If somebody had killed somebody I didn't even know but I heard about it on the news and I decided to kill that person surely I've committed the same crime as him? How do I justify my actions? I killed a killer but now I'm the killer so does somebody know have the rights to kill me? | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers He won't be safe on the protection wing either,he is the nonce of all nonces and is scum even in nonces eyes+ getting him will be some cretins meal ticket for life Isn't nonce a expression for a child sex offender? I don't recall him ever being convicted for sex crimes against children??" It's a sex offender in general. | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. " I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him. Would you? Would you really just kill him? I find it quite amusing how people say that could easily just kill somebody, I don't know maybe people do find murder that easy....oh yeah people like Peter Sutcliffe In answer to your first question - yes. In answer to what I can only describe as a comparison of such actions perhaps you should consider the motives behind such feelings, there are many many people out there who have been directly affected by the actions of such monsters as him, and I'm one of those affected, so yes, I'd happily slot the twat." You wouldn't though would you? There are thou_ands of murderers, rapists, paedophiles and other criminals living in the community. Why haven't you sought them out and murdered them in cold blood? | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. . It helps the general population with they're own mental health to belive in monsters.... nobody wants to think relatively normal people do horrendous acts!.... However there you have it, relatively normal people who hold down jobs and families Normal people do kill though Look at John Wayne Gacey Pillow of the community, did lots for clarity, own his own company, married with kids, held a normal family life, was well loved and respected by everybody in his community Even at his trail there was nothing to suggest he had any mental problems what so ever, and he was examined by a number of people, nobody could find anything wrong with him mentally " . Or dr Shipman | |||
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"I'm sure they said it'll cost £250k less per annum moving him. Yup.... it's a money saving exercise. .. personally I'd just slot the twat and be done with him. Would you? Would you really just kill him? I find it quite amusing how people say that could easily just kill somebody, I don't know maybe people do find murder that easy....oh yeah people like Peter Sutcliffe In answer to your first question - yes. In answer to what I can only describe as a comparison of such actions perhaps you should consider the motives behind such feelings, there are many many people out there who have been directly affected by the actions of such monsters as him, and I'm one of those affected, so yes, I'd happily slot the twat. You wouldn't though would you? There are thou_ands of murderers, rapists, paedophiles and other criminals living in the community. Why haven't you sought them out and murdered them in cold blood?" It's a fair question | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner This is a more realistic possibility. In all likelihood, he'll be put on the Protection wing, along with the nonces, bent coppers, ex-family entertainers He won't be safe on the protection wing either,he is the nonce of all nonces and is scum even in nonces eyes+ getting him will be some cretins meal ticket for life Isn't nonce a expression for a child sex offender? I don't recall him ever being convicted for sex crimes against children??" Tracy Browne was aged 14 when on Wednesday, August 27 1975 she was attacked with a hammer by Peter Sutcliffe on a lonely farm road at around 10:30 pm. Tracy and her twin sister, Mandy, had been in Silsden, near Keighley (where Anna Rogulskyj had been attacked). They were to be home at 10:30 pm and Mandy had left for their home, about a mile outside of Silsden, earlier than Tracy did. | |||
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"Don't think he deserves the hammering he's getting here tbh " that's sick | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. " these are my thoughts. Weve come along way since he comitted his crimes. Just maybe(and it is a very small maybe) if how things are today his illness may have been picked up and he wouldnt have committed the crimes. Also if he is now classed as mentally stable he has to live with full compeehension of what he did. Now ian brady there is no fucking hope for. Hes not being released hes being put into a main stream prison. | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life'" I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude." I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh." i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it | |||
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"People seem to have a strange opinion of prisoners. Sutcliffe is now just an old man, he will be put in a medium security prison with a lot of other old men, most of which are criminals, an attack on him by other prisoners is extremely unlikely, there is no points scored for killing old men. A short term prisoner is not going to risk a life sentence to appease the more blood thirsty forumites. Other life sentence without parole prisoners have probably also killed a few and won't want their past judged by other prisoners." He is going into a cat a establishment. Believe me,lifers have nothing to lose but everything to prove. They can and do commit murders whilst serving their term. | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it" Agree. Having worked in high security with some of the most violent people. YOur may not like them but you certainly do not intentionally take your time to an incident. | |||
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"People seem to have a strange opinion of prisoners. Sutcliffe is now just an old man, he will be put in a medium security prison with a lot of other old men, most of which are criminals, an attack on him by other prisoners is extremely unlikely, there is no points scored for killing old men. A short term prisoner is not going to risk a life sentence to appease the more blood thirsty forumites. Other life sentence without parole prisoners have probably also killed a few and won't want their past judged by other prisoners. He is going into a cat a establishment. Believe me,lifers have nothing to lose but everything to prove. They can and do commit murders whilst serving their term. " Not much kudos for killing a 70 year old. Cat A is reserved for violent / escape risk prisoners, he may spend a month or so in one but unlikely to be in there long term. Most prisoners are not nice people, he will have a fan club in many prisons who will protect him if needed. | |||
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"Hopefully he gets shanked, evil bastard. That will be one hell.of a scalp for another prisoner " He needs his eyes stabbing again | |||
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"People on here unnerve me sometimes. There was a thread on here only yesterday that did the same" If it was you he killed i'd bet you would love someone sorting him out.. | |||
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"All the years of hearing 10am Monday siren testing at Broadmoor has made me bonkers " Thats not testing. It means ones got out... | |||
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"People on here unnerve me sometimes. There was a thread on here only yesterday that did the same If it was you he killed i'd bet you would love someone sorting him out.." what a daft thing to say. Id hope the person would caught and punished. | |||
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"People on here unnerve me sometimes. There was a thread on here only yesterday that did the same If it was you he killed i'd bet you would love someone sorting him out..what a daft thing to say. Id hope the person would caught and punished." Threads like this are the reason we have a justice system, as imperfect as it is | |||
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"People on here unnerve me sometimes. There was a thread on here only yesterday that did the same If it was you he killed i'd bet you would love someone sorting him out..what a daft thing to say. Id hope the person would caught and punished." Yeh with ice cream & video games...you would probably think he's a nice man too lol | |||
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"People on here unnerve me sometimes. There was a thread on here only yesterday that did the same If it was you he killed i'd bet you would love someone sorting him out.." I doubt I would have any particular opinions at that point in time. | |||
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"People on here unnerve me sometimes. There was a thread on here only yesterday that did the same If it was you he killed i'd bet you would love someone sorting him out..what a daft thing to say. Id hope the person would caught and punished. Yeh with ice cream & video games...you would probably think he's a nice man too lol" your just making yourself look daft because i dont want to go out and murder someone/have them murdered | |||
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"your just making yourself look daft because i dont want to go out and murder someone/have them murdered" And we're supposed to be the unstable ones... This thread is | |||
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"Oh and for those that say he will have to watch his back and they will be out to murder him. Well you do know broadmoor is a top security hospital for the mentally insane. Every inmate in there has been classed to the same level as peter sutcliffe, hes spent tbe last 32 years having to have his wits about him and could of been murdered at any time only difference in prison ia that some of them will be sane" I believe the official definition is somewhat different. A significant danger to the public due to mental instability. | |||
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"Don't think he deserves the hammering he's getting here tbh that's sick " Am I flogging it? | |||
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"Oh and for those that say he will have to watch his back and they will be out to murder him. Well you do know broadmoor is a top security hospital for the mentally insane. Every inmate in there has been classed to the same level as peter sutcliffe, hes spent tbe last 32 years having to have his wits about him and could of been murdered at any time only difference in prison ia that some of them will be sane I believe the official definition is somewhat different. A significant danger to the public due to mental instability." and not everyone in prison is a danger but my point is he already knows what its like to be on his guard constantly. | |||
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"People seem to have a strange opinion of prisoners. Sutcliffe is now just an old man, he will be put in a medium security prison with a lot of other old men, most of which are criminals, an attack on him by other prisoners is extremely unlikely, there is no points scored for killing old men. A short term prisoner is not going to risk a life sentence to appease the more blood thirsty forumites. Other life sentence without parole prisoners have probably also killed a few and won't want their past judged by other prisoners. He is going into a cat a establishment. Believe me,lifers have nothing to lose but everything to prove. They can and do commit murders whilst serving their term. Not much kudos for killing a 70 year old. Cat A is reserved for violent / escape risk prisoners, he may spend a month or so in one but unlikely to be in there long term. Most prisoners are not nice people, he will have a fan club in many prisons who will protect him if needed. " Cat A establishments don't only house cat A prisoners. He may not be a cat A prisoner bit he is going into that estate. Cat A isn't reserved for those offences listed. There are a number of factors that determines categorisation and high profile cases is one of them. I would think the 'scalp', as you put it, Of one of the most infamous criminals alive would mean something to someone. | |||
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"they should have hanged him 32yearsago as it cost 325000.. a year to keep him in luxury and i spent 4hours in the nick as was driving a while dasun in barnsley befor he was nicked they thought i was the bloody yorkshire ripper was funny after but not at the time he owes me four hours of my life but 13 was not so lucky still should hang the twat " I'd be very interested in your idea of luxury Because if you think he has been kept in luxury its deffinatly not my idea, if Broadmoor was luxury we'd all be fighting to get in | |||
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"they should have hanged him 32yearsago as it cost 325000.. a year to keep him in luxury and i spent 4hours in the nick as was driving a while dasun in barnsley befor he was nicked they thought i was the bloody yorkshire ripper was funny after but not at the time he owes me four hours of my life but 13 was not so lucky still should hang the twat I'd be very interested in your idea of luxury Because if you think he has been kept in luxury its deffinatly not my idea, if Broadmoor was luxury we'd all be fighting to get in " I used to visit prisons (and, yes, I mean visit). Believe me, the feeling when that main door shuts behind you is chilling. A life of luxury is not what I would call it either. | |||
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"they should have hanged him 32yearsago as it cost 325000.. a year to keep him in luxury and i spent 4hours in the nick as was driving a while dasun in barnsley befor he was nicked they thought i was the bloody yorkshire ripper was funny after but not at the time he owes me four hours of my life but 13 was not so lucky still should hang the twat " Luxury? You'd be queueing up for Broadmoor? I know I wouldn't! | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it Agree. Having worked in high security with some of the most violent people. YOur may not like them but you certainly do not intentionally take your time to an incident. " prison officers are human to | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it Agree. Having worked in high security with some of the most violent people. YOur may not like them but you certainly do not intentionally take your time to an incident. prison officers are human to " Prison officers are paid to do a job That job includes treating everybody the same If you can't detach your personal feeling from the job you are paid to do then you have no rights doing that job | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it Agree. Having worked in high security with some of the most violent people. YOur may not like them but you certainly do not intentionally take your time to an incident. prison officers are human to Prison officers are paid to do a job That job includes treating everybody the same If you can't detach your personal feeling from the job you are paid to do then you have no rights doing that job " It's the same for doctors, nurses, police, fire fighters and a host of other professions. | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh." so your happy to go on the word of another broadmoor inmate because he "seemed" to think something happened | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it Agree. Having worked in high security with some of the most violent people. YOur may not like them but you certainly do not intentionally take your time to an incident. prison officers are human to " Prison officers do not work in Broadmoor. Nurses do, and that means regardless of personal feeling treating everyone with the same unconditional positive regard. So no, they don't take their time, and it's offensive that you suggest they would | |||
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" Experts schmexperts, huh? A high-secure hospital is anything but an easy life. He's not "cured", but his condition is stable and managed enough for him to leave hospital. I'm delighted that it's possible for this to happen even for someone previously as psychotically unwell as Sutcliffe. He's not a monster even though he perpetrated some horrendous crimes and has been rightly punished for them. I disagree. It's very much an easy life. Though depends what is mean by 'easy life' I would not even begin to defend him. How could anyone? Just for information, he has been seriously attacked on at least 6 occasions - including having a pen plunged into his eye. How that makes you feel will, I guess, depend on your attitude. I know someone who was inside at the time of the pen attack and in the same room. He said that for some reason at the time the screws seemed to take a bit longer than usual to react to the incident. Oh dear, never mind eh. i cant agree with that As a prison officer you have an duty to provide a service to all in mates and treat them all the same If you cant do that you should not be doing the job Prison officers have no rights deciding who they are going to protect and how long its going to take them to do it" Yeah and the drills and the reaction time tests and the rules and regulations would have you in prison if you failed to react or protect a prisoner. Like when Ian Watkins was on remand in my prison at the time I was working there, having to protect him went against every instinct you have as a mother knowing what he had done. | |||
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" Yeah and the drills and the reaction time tests and the rules and regulations would have you in prison if you failed to react or protect a prisoner. Like when Ian Watkins was on remand in my prison at the time I was working there, having to protect him went against every instinct you have as a mother knowing what he had done. " I absolutely agree I have on occasion delt with some dodgy people in my job I remember years ago when I worked in A&E the police bringing in some young guy who had just been released from prison for child sex offences and some members of the public had taken it upon themselves to give him a kick him But as a police officer you have to take him for medical attention, as a nurse I had to provide it and with the same care as I'd provide for anybody without passing judgement As you say it goes against everything you feel right as a mother but if you can't put your personal feelings aside your in the wrong job | |||
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