FabSwingers.com forum: Trans dilemma

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So I was talking to a nice trans girl and she sent her number. I consider myself straight and not attracted to men at all nor tgirls. However this girl was prettier than even most girls l see. Does this mean I'm not straight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I was talking to a nice trans girl and she sent her number. I consider myself straight and not attracted to men at all nor tgirls. However this girl was prettier than even most girls l see. Does this mean I'm not straight?"

This combined with your habit of looking at cock suggests you are bi..I presume you like women as well?

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By *inkykouple2016Couple
over a year ago

moray

It's a case of "suck it and see".....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's a case of "suck it and see"....."

I am not turned on by that at all. Other stuff was erotic though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This combined with your habit of looking at cock suggests you are bi..I presume you like women as well?"

I look at cock?? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the lady is presenting as a lady then how can you be bi? It might take some getting your head around but the intelligent can manage it!

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

You Fell for her personality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the lady is presenting as a lady then how can you be bi? It might take some getting your head around but the intelligent can manage it! "

You can present as anything you want but 2 cocks together is definitely bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the lady is presenting as a lady then how can you be bi? It might take some getting your head around but the intelligent can manage it!

You can present as anything you want but 2 cocks together is definitely bi"

For this site, where let's face it the focus is on the cock/pussy arrangements, I would agree. However if the OP is falling in love - then maybe not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Of course I'm not falling I love! She was nice and had a prettier face and body than almost all girls l see. She spoke about what she wanted and it didn't sound gay at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course I'm not falling I love! She was nice and had a prettier face and body than almost all girls l see. She spoke about what she wanted and it didn't sound gay at all. "

Then catch up with her. Alas I said before, if she is presenting as a woman then it's that that is attracting you, simples x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Of course I'm not falling I love! She was nice and had a prettier face and body than almost all girls l see. She spoke about what she wanted and it didn't sound gay at all.

Then catch up with her. Alas I said before, if she is presenting as a woman then it's that that is attracting you, simples x"

Thanks for the advice. X

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Not my cuppa but what have you got to lose, OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember buddy you're only gay if you take it.

That's the rule right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course I'm not falling I love! She was nice and had a prettier face and body than almost all girls l see. She spoke about what she wanted and it didn't sound gay at all. "

I'm not knocking you in any way ,you asked if its gay and I am sure it is. Are you saying you only want to kiss the trans with no sex?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Of course I'm not falling I love! She was nice and had a prettier face and body than almost all girls l see. She spoke about what she wanted and it didn't sound gay at all.

I'm not knocking you in any way ,you asked if its gay and I am sure it is. Are you saying you only want to kiss the trans with no sex?"

I know mate. There is anal and kissing and other stuff. I suppose I'd have to touch the cock? I wouldn't want to be selfish and l would like to give her pleasure.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

OP, the most important thing is what you think of yourself.

If you are confident of who you are as a person, you do what you want to do regardless of what others might call you.

Straight or curved or bent or whatever, insecurity is real and not many can overcome it.

Good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OP, the most important thing is what you think of yourself.

If you are confident of who you are as a person, you do what you want to do regardless of what others might call you.

Straight or curved or bent or whatever, insecurity is real and not many can overcome it.

Good luck."

Thank you for the sound advice.

I don't mind being labeled something, it just raised some inward questions, pure curiosity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, if you consider a girl with a man's body pretty...

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

Just be free, stuff societys pathetic rules.

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By *enuinedannyMan
over a year ago

walsall

It's on you. personally I'd say go for it what you got to lose you might find you enjoy it and find a new world to explore.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well, if you consider a girl with a man's body pretty..."

It was nicer and more feminine than most girls on fab bodies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, if you consider a girl with a man's body pretty...

It was nicer and more feminine than most girls on fab bodies "

Then do not worry about labelling yourself.

You may find that you, like us and many others, enjoy sucking cock. It is not a bad thing, you know.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well, if you consider a girl with a man's body pretty...

It was nicer and more feminine than most girls on fab bodies

Then do not worry about labelling yourself.

You may find that you, like us and many others, enjoy sucking cock. It is not a bad thing, you know."

If l did then that would be another string to my bow l suppose but I know don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, if you consider a girl with a man's body pretty...

It was nicer and more feminine than most girls on fab bodies

Then do not worry about labelling yourself.

You may find that you, like us and many others, enjoy sucking cock. It is not a bad thing, you know.

If l did then that would be another string to my bow l suppose but I know don't."

Then before taking it any further, ensure that she knows what you will and won't do.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"If the lady is presenting as a lady then how can you be bi? It might take some getting your head around but the intelligent can manage it!

You can present as anything you want but 2 cocks together is definitely bi

For this site, where let's face it the focus is on the cock/pussy arrangements, I would agree. However if the OP is falling in love - then maybe not. "

It is all to do with precision docking; space shuttle and space station; that kinda 'thang'. But some are equally apt at docking a space shuttle with another space shuttle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP, the most important thing is what you think of yourself.

If you are confident of who you are as a person, you do what you want to do regardless of what others might call you.

Straight or curved or bent or whatever, insecurity is real and not many can overcome it.

Good luck."

Lovely words x

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Isn't it what's known as 'fab straight?'

Seriously though there are some stunning t girls on here, I have to agree with you OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you need to be clear on what "Trans" you're talking about.

Was she born a male and now post op and living as a female, or transitioning and living full time as a female - Transgender.

You are still straight

If he dresses up as a woman, doesn't present as a female and finds pleasure in that then that's a transvestite.

You're possibly bi/gay.

Or, and most likely, you could be pansexual and fancy people for themselves rather than what bits they've got.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Labels, rules and others opinions do they matter, do what pleases you as long as your happy

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

If she's feminine and looking to go full op I guess in this PC world we live in she's a woman. If you let her bum you and jizz in your mouth then bi...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you perceive a person to be defined by what's below their waist?

Genitalia does not define a person,not to me anyway.

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you just say that?!

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"Did you just say that?!"

Yeah apparently im allowed an opinion, again people making the transition good for them if it makes them happy and I will call them the correct pronoun the desire but a spade isn't an attack helicopter, turkey bacon isn't bacon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics"

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

but an idjit is always an idjit. and idjits have been around ever since the human race started

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By *atie2015100TV/TS
over a year ago

Salford

Of course it does! For fucks sake accept your sexuality. Nothing wrong with being bi. Best of both worlds. You can have decide who gives the best BJ. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck what others think. Just go with the flow if you like them, then what have you to loose?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If you fancy someone living as a female then I'd consider your sexual orientation as straight. If you fancied a wee wrestler in panties fucking you then it could be different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?"

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you fancy someone living as a female then I'd consider your sexual orientation as straight. If you fancied a wee wrestler in panties fucking you then it could be different."

Putting a skirt on does not make a male a female

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male "

Actually:

1) if you have a cock

2) ever had a cock

3) will ever have a cock

4) have ever thought about having a cock

5) had sex with someone who has, had or will have a cock

then you are male

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male "

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy.

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By *r Stagger LeeMan
over a year ago

torquay

I would say it would make you at least bi-curious.

would certainly give it a go if you get the chance, all the trans I have been with make far more effort getting ready and looking stunning than some on here.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

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By *lockworkcoloursCouple
over a year ago

Fife

"Labels, rules and others opinions do they matter, do what pleases you as long as your happy

Exactly, why pigeon hole yourself. We all know people that had "same sex experiences at uni etc" that they enjoyed but never changed their sexuality because of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would say it would make you at least bi-curious.

would certainly give it a go if you get the chance, all the trans I have been with make far more effort getting ready and looking stunning than some on here."

I guess it's the old preference thing again, personally I wouldn't care how gorgeous the appearance or how perfect the image is.

If the person has a cock then it's not for me.

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By *aptivatingWoman
over a year ago

Chester

There's a phrase on another site that I frequent which you may find applicable. Hetero-flexible.

I'm not convinced gay, straight and bi are anywhere near as descriptive enough as is needed to label such complex things as us humans. I identify as hetero-flexible, I don't fancy women as a rule (although I adore boobs and will argue the toss with anyone who thinks men kiss better

), but I do know if a woman can make me feel submissive towards her then she'll leave me with fizzy knickers as much as a man can. This has happened to me all of twice in my life, but it's still there and definitely something I wouldn't want to deny myself the pleasure of!

OP, I hope you go and have yourself a world of fun and pleasure with whichever consenting adults arouse you, and have nothing other than respect for you if you can see past the gender and just appreciate the person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy."

As far as determining features for males/females a cock and a pussy is the determine feature I have always used,you might be prettier than all the supermodels but if you haven't got a fanny then you are not a female even if you think you are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you just say that?!

They are inanimate objects,with no emotions or feelings.

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Straight,bi and gay are all labels. You can choose your on if it feels right go for it if you like it do it again. Xxxx

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By *tephanie19631TV/TS
over a year ago

oxford

Forget all the tags.

If it feels right go for it what have you got to loose ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you call yourself bi,you will have men asking you to suck their cock. As you're not interested in men it seems wrong to use the word bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a case of "suck it and see"....."
now that's an outlook for you love it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Straight,bi and gay are all labels. You can choose your on if it feels right go for it if you like it do it again. Xxxx"

Just to clarify,I never put any tag or label on anyone,the op asked if it was gay for a man to have sex with a trans which it obviously is. It's not an issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forget all the tags.

If it feels right go for it what have you got to loose ?"
just this to be honest I've got bi on my profile but I'm not into all men just sexualy fluid I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. "

I agree if you have the dildo up your jack Harris more often than your missus you are probably bi as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. "

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy.

finally someone with a bit of sense

I use similar observations when determining gender

Men are taller than women; so if a guy is 6' or taller, then he is a man; someone only 5'10" or shorter must be a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy.

So you never consider how they feel about themself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy.

finally someone with a bit of sense

I use similar observations when determining gender

Men are taller than women; so if a guy is 6' or taller, then he is a man; someone only 5'10" or shorter must be a woman"

But does height define gender tho? genitalia does I'm my opinion.

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?"

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy.

So you never consider how they feel about themself?"

How you feel about yourself is relevant but if you commit a crime and you have a cock you will be put in a male prison regardless of how you feel about yourself

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

You can be as intellectual as you like but if you have got a cock you are a male

Perhaps you should ask the person whether they consider themselves to be a male?

A cock is not a determining feature. Neither is a pussy.

finally someone with a bit of sense

I use similar observations when determining gender

Men are taller than women; so if a guy is 6' or taller, then he is a man; someone only 5'10" or shorter must be a woman

But does height define gender tho? genitalia does I'm my opinion.

Ofcourse it does; the ratio between male height:female height is 1.09:1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want"

I love it when someone quotes science and medicine as if they were an authority on these subjects whilst completely ignoring the vast research published by neuroscientists, endocrinologists and geneticists. 2016 is a long way off from the 1980s which is a long way off from the 17th century

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender

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over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender"

It is literally that simple

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over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender"

That helps you to not take the wrong baby home with you. It's actual gender will only become apparent when it develops a personality and feelings towards others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. "
You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock? "

But can a "female" have male genitalia?

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock? "

Because tits aren't reproductive organs,if you have a cock you can't carry a baby no matter how big your tits are

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over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender

That helps you to not take the wrong baby home with you. It's actual gender will only become apparent when it develops a personality and feelings towards others. "

Don't be so ridiculous..are you saying when you have a baby even though the baby has a penis ,you need to wait a few years until gender is revealed? F G S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cannot see want the dilemma is. If you are both consenting adults be that of a any gender/sexual orientation go with the flow and if at any stage either of you has second thoughts just stop.

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock?

But can a "female" have male genitalia?

If she deems herself as female, yes. Of course.

If you prefer to return to 1960, then good luck.

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Why categorise yourself. Just enjoy it

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock?

But can a "female" have male genitalia?

If she deems herself as female, yes. Of course.

If you prefer to return to 1960, then good luck."

I don't think it has anything to do with going back to a previous time. I don't personally agree that a woman can have a cock. But we all have opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why categorise yourself. Just enjoy it "

Because,on here,men are vilified for meeting women who have cocks and calling themselves straight.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol."

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

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over a year ago

GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

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over a year ago

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender

That helps you to not take the wrong baby home with you. It's actual gender will only become apparent when it develops a personality and feelings towards others.

Don't be so ridiculous..are you saying when you have a baby even though the baby has a penis ,you need to wait a few years until gender is revealed? F G S"

It's assigned a gender for identification purposes. As it gets older it may feel it has been assigned the wrong gender. Now,some people carry on living with the genitalia they were born with but live as the opposite gender (possibly because they enjoy their genitalia);whereas others have gender reassignment,because they don't enjoy what is between their legs.

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock?

But can a "female" have male genitalia?

If she deems herself as female, yes. Of course.

If you prefer to return to 1960, then good luck.

I don't think it has anything to do with going back to a previous time. I don't personally agree that a woman can have a cock. But we all have opinions. "

If you do not enjoy that, absolutely fine.

No need to be hostile to those in that category, though. Live and let live.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender

That helps you to not take the wrong baby home with you. It's actual gender will only become apparent when it develops a personality and feelings towards others.

Don't be so ridiculous..are you saying when you have a baby even though the baby has a penis ,you need to wait a few years until gender is revealed? F G S"

Nope

But you may wait a few years after you have delivered a baby who has perfect female genitalia but who is XY because she has CAIS. Look it up; you might learn something which hadn't been discovered in the 1980s

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over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress."

Society norms grow and change. Men used to wear heels and make up and pierced their ears in the centuries before ours and now it's considered feminine to do all these things.

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress."

No they shouldn't dictate how you act feel or dress but gender is not a social construct transgender is a social construct. Doesn't make trans wrong it just means that gender was always there and changing gender is the new thing

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over?

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over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over? "

He'll get a tight slap if he does it to me

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over? "

The bumhole is 100% a NO ENTRY unless you are gay

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over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

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over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness. "

It's gone full circle,if you have a cock but you are convinced you are a female that is a mental illness

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over?

The bumhole is 100% a NO ENTRY unless you are gay "

So women who like anal sex are Gay???

Good one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over?

The bumhole is 100% a NO ENTRY unless you are gay "

Wanking is ok though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

You need to use the internet for things other than hooking up - it's a fact that gender is a social construct. I'd link you to a few articles but no doubt you wouldn't read them.

You having trans friends doesn't mean you're right, they don't have to teach you.

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over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness.

It's gone full circle,if you have a cock but you are convinced you are a female that is a mental illness "

Are you saying it's a mental illness?

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over a year ago

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over? "
lol jose, we all have different views on what makes what there.

"What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum? "
Then that one would be bi curious.

"Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over?"
If the gf was doing it, they would be straight and if he took over they would be bi curios and not bi sexual. What do you reckon?

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness. "

Kind of yes but then lots of things were considered very differently. It still doesn't mean that on a biological scale that gender swapping is possible, gender swapping is a cosmetic and chemical change. It does not change chromosomes it doesn't allow for a m2f trans to get pregnant or for f2m to impregnate.

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over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness.

It's gone full circle,if you have a cock but you are convinced you are a female that is a mental illness

Are you saying it's a mental illness?"

A man who thinks he is not a man has definitely got some kind of mental illness/affliction

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness.

And all those thousands of women who were born without a womb are male.

[ great scientific minds here

. I won't bother switching on the TV tonight; no, no, no, not that kinda TV

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

You need to use the internet for things other than hooking up - it's a fact that gender is a social construct. I'd link you to a few articles but no doubt you wouldn't read them.

You having trans friends doesn't mean you're right, they don't have to teach you."

Google and Social justice bullshit doesn't change 1000s of years of human evolution, if I identify as a bumblebee and rub myself in flowers and dance to give directions... Guess what I'm still a fucking human not a bee.

If your dad had a sex change does he become your mother? No he is physically unable to carry a child in his non existent womb

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over a year ago

I do love these little discussions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's a ludicrous example to give.

And also a kick in the gut any women who has trouble conceiving.

Carry on

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over a year ago

I'm finding this thread very informative..... I just found out that I'm gay because I like anal sex! On the plus side, I'm still a woman because I'm only 5'8"

Carry on

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

You need to use the internet for things other than hooking up - it's a fact that gender is a social construct. I'd link you to a few articles but no doubt you wouldn't read them.

You having trans friends doesn't mean you're right, they don't have to teach you.

If your dad had a sex change does he become your mother? No he is physically unable to carry a child in his non existent womb"

Womb transplants were successfully completed in the 21st century. Not saying this should or should not be made available to trans-women. Just playing devil's advocate

But you wouldn't know about anything which happened after the moon-shot

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over a year ago

"That's a ludicrous example to give.

And also a kick in the gut any women who has trouble conceiving.

Carry on

I hope your not belittling his right to perceive himself as a bumble bee

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over a year ago

"I'm finding this thread very informative..... I just found out that I'm gay because I like anal sex! On the plus side, I'm still a woman because I'm only 5'8"

Carry on

so at 5' 7" i am female then, wtf, only just got comfortable with being a bloke.

sheesh.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"That's a ludicrous example to give.

And also a kick in the gut any women who has trouble conceiving.

Carry on

I hope your not belittling his right to perceive himself as a bumble bee

Perceive??? I thought he was one; stupid me

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over a year ago

"That's a ludicrous example to give.

And also a kick in the gut any women who has trouble conceiving.

Carry on

I hope your not belittling his right to perceive himself as a bumble bee

Perceive??? I thought he was one; stupid me"

Well that's the thing we can all be whatever we want to be....apparently. Personally I'd rather be a wasp than a bee.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"That's a ludicrous example to give.

And also a kick in the gut any women who has trouble conceiving.

Carry on

I hope your not belittling his right to perceive himself as a bumble bee

Perceive??? I thought he was one; stupid me

Well that's the thing we can all be whatever we want to be....apparently. Personally I'd rather be a wasp than a bee.

I am an attack helicopter; I trump you

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too. You are still straight tho, it is just a strap on lol.

Stop kidding yourself 'Shag'

'real' men don't take it up the bum; irrespective of whether it is a penis, a man wearing a hollow strap-on, a woman wearing a solid strap-on or a flagpole

What about another man sticking a dildo up your bum?

Let's say his gf was doing it and he took it off her and took over?

The bumhole is 100% a NO ENTRY unless you are gay "

The many, many men that not pegging would disagree.

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

Only because it's now no longer seen as mental health illness.

It's gone full circle,if you have a cock but you are convinced you are a female that is a mental illness

Are you saying it's a mental illness?

A man who thinks he is not a man has definitely got some kind of mental illness/affliction"

Oh dear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if your attracted to her go for it who cares what anyone else thinks.

have fun

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"That's a ludicrous example to give.

And also a kick in the gut any women who has trouble conceiving.

Carry on

Saying a m2f can't get pregnant has fuck all to do with biofems that cannot conceive stop trying to coopt trans peoples plights in this world notice how the genuine trans people on this thread aren't jumping on either bandwagon

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

If anyone is interested you can read up on the guevedoce children of the dominican republic. They change gender at pubity and grow a penis (some of them)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

You need to use the internet for things other than hooking up - it's a fact that gender is a social construct. I'd link you to a few articles but no doubt you wouldn't read them.

You having trans friends doesn't mean you're right, they don't have to teach you.

If your dad had a sex change does he become your mother? No he is physically unable to carry a child in his non existent womb"

You are belitting those who are not comfortable with their assigned gender.

That is your pregrotative.

I don't think you have talked with people in that situation.

A little understanding goes a long way.

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By *ustinCredible.Man
over a year ago

whitecross/sankey valley

"Some children with a rare genetic condition appear female at birth but later develop a penis and testes around the time puberty begins. But what causes this.

Children with the condition are genetically male, meaning they have one X and one Y chromosome.

Men with this condition, officially called 5-alpha reductase deficiency, are usually infertile, and often do not develop much facial or body hair. Although most children with this condition are raised as girls, about half identify themselves as male after puberty."

Male genetics with a RARE mutation they are not females they are male with a medical condition.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

l think l opened a can of worms with this thread. Heated debate lol.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It must be Thursday.

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

"A bi-sexual person is attracted to men and women. If men don't turn you on you're not bi. If a cock makes you bi then all the men getting pegged by dildos that look like cocks must be too.

If your a man having sex with someone with a cock surely your bi??

Not if you perceive that person to be female. It's a female who happens to have a cock.

What if they have large breasts? A man with tits? Why not a woman with a cock?

But can a "female" have male genitalia?

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before I come to that does it really matter what you come under has long as your happy male chromeosomes will always play apart in the back ground however much you feel a female haveing a shave etc not really sure how much that would come into play later in life if a ts, but what about a hermathrodite best of both worlds there female with male genitalia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"l think l opened a can of worms with this thread. Heated debate lol."

yea its sad innit,,we,re all people at the end of the day if you fancy that person go for it.

Why care what others think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dint mean any offence O.P but what does it matter.

You've found someone you like sexually if you want to go fir it do it and call yoyrself straight if you want. If you never wrote anything on the fourm no one would no or suspect it of you.

Personally speaking I would still call you straight. A trans person identifys as a female so since its nothing to me I also see them as a female. The cock or not is irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"l think l opened a can of worms with this thread. Heated debate lol.

yea its sad innit,,we,re all people at the end of the day if you fancy that person go for it.

Why care what others think"

I haven't bothered to read the entire thread but this sums up my view generally about most things.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

""Some children with a rare genetic condition appear female at birth but later develop a penis and testes around the time puberty begins. But what causes this.

Children with the condition are genetically male, meaning they have one X and one Y chromosome.

Male genetics with a RARE mutation they are not females they are male with a medical condition. "

Complete androgen insensitivity syndrome; look it up

You will be surprised what one can learn after mastering the basic act of being able to read

Frankly, I don't think these people give two hoots about your 'flat world view'. Oh, and neither do the professionals (I meant, the real professionals; the ones with PhDs; ya know, that kinda thang)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"GENDER is a social construction. GENTILES are what you are born with, they're REPRODUCTIVE organs only and don't dictate how you should act, feel or dress.

You need to use the internet for things other than hooking up - it's a fact that gender is a social construct. I'd link you to a few articles but no doubt you wouldn't read them.

You having trans friends doesn't mean you're right, they don't have to teach you.

If your dad had a sex change does he become your mother? No he is physically unable to carry a child in his non existent womb"

You can't be a different species,or genus,or family or whatever. You can identify as a different gender and not focus on your genitalia to attract mates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personified this a really interesting topic for many reasons. Probably 3 times in the last 48 hours I've asked guys why they claim to be straight on their profile after asking to meet. As always they respond, well I'm not gay or some other similar reply. I generally ask are they afraid of people's perception of them on a very open minded site more so than the act of taking a cock in any way be it sucking or penetration.

I hate having to put a label on myself here, if I called myself myself one thing a trans girl would call me something else and a gay guy would disagree. A straight guy would be to afraid to say anything females for the most part would be supportive. Simply put, labels when it comes to sexuallity are absolute BS and a can stop very normal people from living out fantasies because some other militant from the sexuality police tells them what they are or aren't. I haven't a clue what I am but I'm happy with whatever it is. If you want to meet a trans girl then go for it. The opinions of others dont matter, only the smile on your face when she's standing in front of you smiling back

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By *lockworkcoloursCouple
over a year ago

Fife

"Biological gender had existed as long as the human race transgender hasnt.

So yes I put stock in what's below the waist, that doesn't mean I discredit people making the transition I just put biology before cosmetics

Well

(A) You are missing out

(B) You may find that your definition of biology differs from other people's views of the human condition

(C) I wonder if you have had any contact with a person (yes, a person) who is transgender. You may have without even knowing it.

(D) What century were you born in?

A./ can't miss what youve never had.

B./ science and medicine dictated my view of gender, society then molded that view into accepting shades of grey even if I don't agree 100% with the wording.

C./ I have trans friends who I give their preferred pronouns and they are fully aware of my own oppinions, were still compatible as mates I don't care what label you have.

D./ born in the 80s where only gays got aids, Germany was divided and Paul O'Grady was the most famous drag queen in the uk.

Again I don't care about labels, your DNA decides your gender having implants and operations don't change DNA but it can help ease somebody's body image.

Do what you want

I didn't quote any medical or science journals but doctors don't deliver a baby and pick a gender out the hat, they look between its legs and omg biology (a medical science) dictates gender"

Gender doesn't solely encompass what's between the legs, but also one's social experience as that gender.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol,wow amazing how many folk are experts on being transgendered.

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