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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent

I have decided to return to the gym and I will he asking for help from one of the PTG guys /gals but just out of curiosity, can anyone give me a rough idea of how long it might take me to get a flat stomach with some definition?

I am very slim size 6 weighing at 7 stone but I carry a soft tummy which I hate and because I am slim everywhere else, it shows more.

I am fed up with it now but I am 47. Just hope it isn't too late?

Thanks

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over a year ago


"I have decided to return to the gym and I will he asking for help from one of the PTG guys /gals but just out of curiosity, can anyone give me a rough idea of how long it might take me to get a flat stomach with some definition?

I am very slim size 6 weighing at 7 stone but I carry a soft tummy which I hate and because I am slim everywhere else, it shows more.

I am fed up with it now but I am 47. Just hope it isn't too late?

Thanks "

Sit ups and swimming and plenty reverse cowgirl will help

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent

Was a serious question really as I know there are quite a few fabsters who have a lot of experience and knowledge on working out.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

i got some good advice the other day about stomach blubber.

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"i got some good advice the other day about stomach blubber. "

You mean other than telling me to stop eating chocolate? Lol...I don't want to lose weight in all seriousness as i am thinking enough.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

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My worry with cardio is, I am only 7 stone and cannot afford to lose any more weight. If anything, I could do with putting on weight! So exercise is tricky for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

My worry with cardio is, I am only 7 stone and cannot afford to lose any more weight. If anything, I could do with putting on weight! So exercise is tricky for me. "
I see and yes as you don't want to go any lower, what you need to do is to track your weight on daily basis, if you are doing the cycle so if you are going down in weight, just have more higher carb days, maibe 4 high days with medium carb days, don't train to intense, have light workouts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And dont be scared to lift weights !! I used to have a PT 3 times a week and we would do free weights resistance work , tryes, ropes etc and used to do dead lifts. Woman who lift are amazing x

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

My worry with cardio is, I am only 7 stone and cannot afford to lose any more weight. If anything, I could do with putting on weight! So exercise is tricky for me. I see and yes as you don't want to go any lower, what you need to do is to track your weight on daily basis, if you are doing the cycle so if you are going down in weight, just have more higher carb days, maibe 4 high days with medium carb days, don't train to intense, have light workouts."

I watched the video which was really interesting but yes.... maybe more carb days than she does. Though she says not to do 2 high carb days in a row? But are you saying high and medium carb days only for me with no low carb days at all?

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"And dont be scared to lift weights !! I used to have a PT 3 times a week and we would do free weights resistance work , tryes, ropes etc and used to do dead lifts. Woman who lift are amazing x"

I don't have the strength for lifting weights yet...or not with my arms anyway...due to shoulder and neck problem.

Although I need to do more leg work for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And dont be scared to lift weights !! I used to have a PT 3 times a week and we would do free weights resistance work , tryes, ropes etc and used to do dead lifts. Woman who lift are amazing x

I don't have the strength for lifting weights yet...or not with my arms anyway...due to shoulder and neck problem.

Although I need to do more leg work for sure."

My arms were my weakest and hated press ups my strength was legs but GAURNTEED leg day I'd be crying literally and couldn't drive home once , actually vomited and peed aswell , I hate hate doing full on cardio I used to do insanity with a PT and I just hated it so much. I don't think there is much need to do a full 40 min cardio when if doing free weights and body resistance you burn aswell.

Good luck. I'm starting back road running again need to shift my arse

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By *isalovezTV/TS
over a year ago

Paris

Just except your not 21 anymore and embrace YOU.

Look fab btw so chill. x

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"And dont be scared to lift weights !! I used to have a PT 3 times a week and we would do free weights resistance work , tryes, ropes etc and used to do dead lifts. Woman who lift are amazing x

I don't have the strength for lifting weights yet...or not with my arms anyway...due to shoulder and neck problem.

Although I need to do more leg work for sure.

My arms were my weakest and hated press ups my strength was legs but GAURNTEED leg day I'd be crying literally and couldn't drive home once , actually vomited and peed aswell , I hate hate doing full on cardio I used to do insanity with a PT and I just hated it so much. I don't think there is much need to do a full 40 min cardio when if doing free weights and body resistance you burn aswell.

Good luck. I'm starting back road running again need to shift my arse "

Oh I remember feeling like a vomit gromit after doing kettle bells!!! I hated those! Also got it with intense leg work. I get dizzy.. so I have to take real care as i dont have much reserve.

Funny how people think being petite is so preferable! It isn't as great as some think it is! Boooooo

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"Just except your not 21 anymore and embrace YOU.

Look fab btw so chill. x"

Ah I wish!! Actually I don't want to be 21. Just a good 47 year old with a better body. But in truth, it's my own fault! I have hardly done any exercise in all my life! So my body is now starting to let me know!!!!

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

I wouldn't rely just on sit-ups to train your abs, either. Mix it up to work the different muscle groups. Planking, leg raises, reverse crunches. There's loads you can do to work out all the muscle groups. Having said that, I'm a fat fuck and I hate training abs, so what do I know?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just except your not 21 anymore and embrace YOU.

Look fab btw so chill. x

Ah I wish!! Actually I don't want to be 21. Just a good 47 year old with a better body. But in truth, it's my own fault! I have hardly done any exercise in all my life! So my body is now starting to let me know!!!! "

Heres the thing,most people have the misconception that sit ups will get rid of a flabby belly,it wont,you need to burn fat,cv excersices,by all means do sit ups it will tone you're abs but sadly not get rid of the flab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

My worry with cardio is, I am only 7 stone and cannot afford to lose any more weight. If anything, I could do with putting on weight! So exercise is tricky for me. I see and yes as you don't want to go any lower, what you need to do is to track your weight on daily basis, if you are doing the cycle so if you are going down in weight, just have more higher carb days, maibe 4 high days with medium carb days, don't train to intense, have light workouts.

I watched the video which was really interesting but yes.... maybe more carb days than she does. Though she says not to do 2 high carb days in a row? But are you saying high and medium carb days only for me with no low carb days at all?"
That is good and yes, carb cycling is an interesting topic, the reason you don't have 2 high carb days is cos your insulin level would be too high for too long, so usually you go to low carbs after that day, to stabilize things. That is right, you could have 3 high carb days, 3 medium and one low, you can have the low one on a day you don't workout on, or how many high days you reckon you would want?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

My worry with cardio is, I am only 7 stone and cannot afford to lose any more weight. If anything, I could do with putting on weight! So exercise is tricky for me. I see and yes as you don't want to go any lower, what you need to do is to track your weight on daily basis, if you are doing the cycle so if you are going down in weight, just have more higher carb days, maibe 4 high days with medium carb days, don't train to intense, have light workouts.

I watched the video which was really interesting but yes.... maybe more carb days than she does. Though she says not to do 2 high carb days in a row? But are you saying high and medium carb days only for me with no low carb days at all?That is good and yes, carb cycling is an interesting topic, the reason you don't have 2 high carb days is cos your insulin level would be too high for too long, so usually you go to low carbs after that day, to stabilize things. That is right, you could have 3 high carb days, 3 medium and one low, you can have the low one on a day you don't workout on, or how many high days you reckon you would want?"

Listen to shag ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just except your not 21 anymore and embrace YOU.

Look fab btw so chill. x

Ah I wish!! Actually I don't want to be 21. Just a good 47 year old with a better body. But in truth, it's my own fault! I have hardly done any exercise in all my life! So my body is now starting to let me know!!!!

Heres the thing,most people have the misconception that sit ups will get rid of a flabby belly,it wont,you need to burn fat,cv excersices,by all means do sit ups it will tone you're abs but sadly not get rid of the flab"

I think she said she was slim with a soft belly that she wanted to make hard so I don't think she has got flab,therefore plenty sit ups is what is needed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know very little about exercise so I'll just tell you what I'm doing and you can ignore as you are fit...

I am fairly small, but I have my problem areas - my legs and butt tend to carry weight while my waist and chest seem to lose fat really quickly. If I try dieting I just start to see my ribs more so I look out of proportion and bony up top while my legs remain thick.

What I'm trying is eating healthily but not dieting while also increasing my cardio and toning my muscles with various exercises. So I haven't lost weight but I'm toning up a bit more, which is helping my problem areas without too much weight loss in my tummy and chest.

I've only just started recently but it's working well so far. But then, I don't really know much about it all, I'm just trying stuff out.

Good luck, though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

7 stone you're you're probably quite a low body fat percentage anyway. For abs to show on a woman you'd have to be around 16% bf and lower. Age and the elasticity in your skin is gonna go against you, you probably haven't got much fat covering your abs anway.

I'd say to do lots of planks and try and increase your core strength, plank through the adverts when you're watching telly. Also try a yoga class or pillates. Russian twists, scissor kicks, YouTube them, they're variations on sit ups, you want to exercise your obliques (russain twists) and lower abs (scissor kicks) they are the most stubborn parts, your top abs are easier to pop out and they'll probably come first

I say all this like I should be in mega fantastic shape! I used to be!

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"Just except your not 21 anymore and embrace YOU.

Look fab btw so chill. x

Ah I wish!! Actually I don't want to be 21. Just a good 47 year old with a better body. But in truth, it's my own fault! I have hardly done any exercise in all my life! So my body is now starting to let me know!!!!

Heres the thing,most people have the misconception that sit ups will get rid of a flabby belly,it wont,you need to burn fat,cv excersices,by all means do sit ups it will tone you're abs but sadly not get rid of the flab

I think she said she was slim with a soft belly that she wanted to make hard so I don't think she has got flab,therefore plenty sit ups is what is needed"

Yes.... a soft belly. But I have ZERO fat elsewhere on my body! ZERO! So that is why I don't want to burn fat as such. Problem is my belly looks big.

My measurements are 32-27-32. It's the middle bit which is soft with a little 'tyre'! But I am a size 6 and weigh 7 stone! So not wanting to burn fat.

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"7 stone you're you're probably quite a low body fat percentage anyway. For abs to show on a woman you'd have to be around 16% bf and lower. Age and the elasticity in your skin is gonna go against you, you probably haven't got much fat covering your abs anway.

I'd say to do lots of planks and try and increase your core strength, plank through the adverts when you're watching telly. Also try a yoga class or pillates. Russian twists, scissor kicks, YouTube them, they're variations on sit ups, you want to exercise your obliques (russain twists) and lower abs (scissor kicks) they are the most stubborn parts, your top abs are easier to pop out and they'll probably come first

I say all this like I should be in mega fantastic shape! I used to be! "

Thankyou but the thought that my 'age and elasticity' are going against me is depressing!!!

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"I know very little about exercise so I'll just tell you what I'm doing and you can ignore as you are fit...

I am fairly small, but I have my problem areas - my legs and butt tend to carry weight while my waist and chest seem to lose fat really quickly. If I try dieting I just start to see my ribs more so I look out of proportion and bony up top while my legs remain thick.

What I'm trying is eating healthily but not dieting while also increasing my cardio and toning my muscles with various exercises. So I haven't lost weight but I'm toning up a bit more, which is helping my problem areas without too much weight loss in my tummy and chest.

I've only just started recently but it's working well so far. But then, I don't really know much about it all, I'm just trying stuff out.

Good luck, though "

I am going to read more around the carb cycle that Shag has talked about as I don't eat regular meals and often skip meals which is likely to play havoc on my insulin levels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just except your not 21 anymore and embrace YOU.

Look fab btw so chill. x

Ah I wish!! Actually I don't want to be 21. Just a good 47 year old with a better body. But in truth, it's my own fault! I have hardly done any exercise in all my life! So my body is now starting to let me know!!!!

Heres the thing,most people have the misconception that sit ups will get rid of a flabby belly,it wont,you need to burn fat,cv excersices,by all means do sit ups it will tone you're abs but sadly not get rid of the flab

I think she said she was slim with a soft belly that she wanted to make hard so I don't think she has got flab,therefore plenty sit ups is what is needed

Yes.... a soft belly. But I have ZERO fat elsewhere on my body! ZERO! So that is why I don't want to burn fat as such. Problem is my belly looks big.

My measurements are 32-27-32. It's the middle bit which is soft with a little 'tyre'! But I am a size 6 and weigh 7 stone! So not wanting to burn fat. "

Im not an expert but I read wee bit. Fat disappears in different areas at different rates. Usually the first place you lose it is in the face and the tummy area is last for most folk.

From what I've read it's about mainly diet. I saw woman powerlifter here and her body was great too. Maybe try strength training?

It's harder for girls to have abs

You look great anyway and many women would love to be in your shape. We are often our own biggest critics.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

Gran Canaria

You mentioned higher up about a bad neck and/or back.

Just be careful with exercise, especially sit ups.

Once you damage that neck or back flat tummies can be the least of your worries.

Necks and backs don't tend to get better.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"i got some good advice the other day about stomach blubber.

You mean other than telling me to stop eating chocolate? Lol...I don't want to lose weight in all seriousness as i am thinking enough."

As Steve mentioned about his post last week, where we gave good advice.

Fat doesn't just disappear due to targeted exercise - it is lost due to your body's own genetic make-up. If you don't want to lose weight then I'd assume that you want to replace your current weight carried as fat and instead gain that same weight as muscle. Check that this is really what you want to do? That's possibly a few pounds of muscle gain. Where would this muscle be added to on your body?

Fast programmes aren't the right solution imo. You'd ideally be thinking slower and progressive, which isn't what most people want to hear.

I'm assuming though that you don't want to replace several pounds of fat with several pounds of muscle elsewhere. As I said, the fat won't just melt away from one area in our body, just because we want it to or because we exercise it.

Our bodies don't work that way. Muscle takes more energy pound for pound, compared to fat, just to be maintained by our body. It raises our metabolism - but the few calories extra per day that this is equivalent to may not be that significant - this is heresy for most of the fitness industry. But calculations comparing, for example, 8 pounds of fat to 8 pounds if muscle, wont yield much more than 100 calories between them.

You could instead cut the same number of calories from your diet.

I'd set myself up, if this was me, for expected permanent life long changes. But not to replace all fat weight with muscle gain. I'd lose some fat and possibly gain a little muscle. But I'd have to let my body dictate when the fat went from my stomach. And I'd expect to take 6 to 12 months. I don't know you, your exercise or fitness levels, nor your fat loss needs but it can't just be done like pointing a laser to your stomach.

I've not read the other replies and I'd encourage you to research and evaluate your own commitment levels as well as what is feasible and healthy.

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By *axandbooCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Ultimately its Diet vs exercise.

you can put a lot of effort in and get very little back without the right fuel going in.

If your worried about bits, get a referal to a dietician, visit your GP and get checked over first and then take it all and start small and build up....it takes time and effort.

When Dax was doing Kickboxing, he trained daily, was eating 7-8 times per day.

Its one thing to take some advice from an open forum, the best bet is to get somewhere and get proper advice from someone who can assist you in person and keep goals in check.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tummy fat is probably the hardest to shift,iv got some at the moment but that is down to real ale i drink,iv cut it out now and swimming more so hope i get trim again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"7 stone you're you're probably quite a low body fat percentage anyway. For abs to show on a woman you'd have to be around 16% bf and lower. Age and the elasticity in your skin is gonna go against you, you probably haven't got much fat covering your abs anway.

I'd say to do lots of planks and try and increase your core strength, plank through the adverts when you're watching telly. Also try a yoga class or pillates. Russian twists, scissor kicks, YouTube them, they're variations on sit ups, you want to exercise your obliques (russain twists) and lower abs (scissor kicks) they are the most stubborn parts, your top abs are easier to pop out and they'll probably come first

I say all this like I should be in mega fantastic shape! I used to be!

Thankyou but the thought that my 'age and elasticity' are going against me is depressing!!! "

So would mine and I'm 33, your skin does lose elasticity as you get older though and you did say you have problems with your neck and your back and wouldn't be able to lift anything heavy. That's why I said russain twists for your obliques cos they're not as strenuous as doing actual sit ups your neck won't be under any pressure and scissor kicks are good for your lower abs. Also yoga and Pilates are good for overall flexibility and core strength and planks. There's loads of planking exercises you can do on YouTube.

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By *ubbykitten OP   Woman
over a year ago

Kent


"7 stone you're you're probably quite a low body fat percentage anyway. For abs to show on a woman you'd have to be around 16% bf and lower. Age and the elasticity in your skin is gonna go against you, you probably haven't got much fat covering your abs anway.

I'd say to do lots of planks and try and increase your core strength, plank through the adverts when you're watching telly. Also try a yoga class or pillates. Russian twists, scissor kicks, YouTube them, they're variations on sit ups, you want to exercise your obliques (russain twists) and lower abs (scissor kicks) they are the most stubborn parts, your top abs are easier to pop out and they'll probably come first

I say all this like I should be in mega fantastic shape! I used to be!

Thankyou but the thought that my 'age and elasticity' are going against me is depressing!!!

So would mine and I'm 33, your skin does lose elasticity as you get older though and you did say you have problems with your neck and your back and wouldn't be able to lift anything heavy. That's why I said russain twists for your obliques cos they're not as strenuous as doing actual sit ups your neck won't be under any pressure and scissor kicks are good for your lower abs. Also yoga and Pilates are good for overall flexibility and core strength and planks. There's loads of planking exercises you can do on YouTube. "

Thankyou. I am going to look it all up.

Need to get in shape! Especially as a guy I started seeing is ripped and gym fit! Then I look at me! Oh dear! Lol! I asked him if my tummy shows in clothes! LADIES! DON'T EVER ASK THIS QUESTION OF A MAN! !!! BECAUSE HE SAID YES! THE BARSTARD WAS SUPPOSED TO LIE!!! (He says he likes me a lot, fancies me etc....blah blah yeah yeah.... )

All I can think of now is how awful I must look! I am all freaked out about it and hate my body! I never used to! Not good! But just wait 3 months from now I will be looking hot! Lol! He has motivated me, tell the truth!!

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By *teddoMan
over a year ago

Swadlincote

I wish I kept up with it married got lazy slowly loosing it but gut is hard deff need gym. Thus site has motivated me I need to get I shape

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Your body stores fat where it is genetically predisposed to storing fat. So; to reduce your belly fat, you are going to have to lose fat, which means losing weight, sadly. If you do some kind of resistance training whilst you diet down, then you can maintain some muscle mass, which helps with the aesthetic at the end of the process.

You cannot spot reduce - abs exercises are going to be pointless for antything other than acheving good core strength (which is not such a bad thing to have).

As one gets older, it is harder to maintain muscle mass, and being female (and thus producing less testosterone), it is even harder. Were I you, I'd start lifting or doing a bodyweight programme, try to quickly cut all the fat you can and then attempt some sort of lean bulk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is not too late, it is all about dieting and cardio, carb cycling is the most affective method to get shredded, where you have high, low and low carb days, do sit ups, 5 sets of 15 reps everyday, here is how to set up the carb cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgbrAODibw

My worry with cardio is, I am only 7 stone and cannot afford to lose any more weight. If anything, I could do with putting on weight! So exercise is tricky for me. "

You've got some great advice here from shag and others.

Don't worry about loosing weight or mass. That won't happen as long as you keep eating well.

It's just a case if building a bit little muscle mass and toning especially in the tummy and torso area.

Cardio an resistance exercises will get you there. Weights can be fun and help allot, just start somewhere and build from there.

Focus on core exercises but don't neglect the rest of your body.

Just go for it and keep it fun while setting achievable short term goals.

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