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By *hyllyphylly OP   Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Woman wears short skirt on BBC.

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/697422/Helen-Skelton-slammed-by-viewers-for-hosting-Olympics-in-tiny-dress

People moan about owt these days

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job."

But women do look much better in a skirt than men

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men "

do they? most guys i have seen wearing skirt and heels have fabulous legs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men "

Not if their Scottish

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By *hyllyphylly OP   Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"most guys i have seen wearing skirt and heels have fabulous legs"

I've been at Leeds Pride all day and I can vouch for that

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men

do they? most guys i have seen wearing skirt and heels have fabulous legs"

I'm sure that can be true but no not for me I'm afraid

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men

Not if their Scottish "

Bollex what have I started

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job."

But have you noticed how these comments seem to come from other women more than men?

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men

Not if their Scottish "

Sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The media/TV wants good looking Women and them to look good while presenting programs only for other parts of the media to pull them up for being to sexy for TV I thought she looked nice, As long as the camera didn't go for a close up I don't see the problem,

In other news Rebecca Adlington

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job."

Thank you. That saved me lots of typing.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But have you noticed how these comments seem to come from other women more than men? "

Sometimes, and when they do they are often more vehemently scathing. Misogynistic women help keep misogyny alive and well as a societal norm.

Of course even saying such a thing gets me branded as a feminazi and misandrist.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

Thank you. That saved me lots of typing.

"

always happy to help x

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

If the Olympics were being held in the Arctic it might be a 'poor' dress chose but in those temperatures what's the issue?

Ho do people cope seeing the athletes who wear next to nothing and show off every 'bump'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But have you noticed how these comments seem to come from other women more than men?

Sometimes, and when they do they are often more vehemently scathing. Misogynistic women help keep misogyny alive and well as a societal norm.

Of course even saying such a thing gets me branded as a feminazi and misandrist.

"

Between me and my male friends, I can honestly never recall a single conversation that ever started about what any female TV Personality, CEO or politician wore.

To be honest were far more likely to discuss what other men wore because it's more relatable. I do notice if a guy has a nice tie.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Did anyone mention Mark Foster wearing shorts throughout?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"

Between me and my male friends, I can honestly never recall a single conversation that ever started about what any female TV Personality, CEO or politician wore.

To be honest were far more likely to discuss what other men wore because it's more relatable. I do notice if a guy has a nice tie. "

I was at a business meeting recently where the male chair commented excessively on another man's tie. The poor chap was obviously getting embarrassed so I chucked in how 'refreshing' it was to hear comments on male attire instead of comments about we women were wearing. He stopped.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Did anyone mention Mark Foster wearing shorts throughout?

"

a lot of twitter users did come to Helen's defense and commented that Mark was wearing shorts cos, you know, its hot in Rio....shocker

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By *am-RaiderMan
over a year ago

Corby

I am most distressed to find out that some television presenters have vaginas?

When did this happen?

Did I sleep in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I still think we are years and years away from when the media stop objectifying Women for what they wear how they look etc compared to Men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Between me and my male friends, I can honestly never recall a single conversation that ever started about what any female TV Personality, CEO or politician wore.

To be honest were far more likely to discuss what other men wore because it's more relatable. I do notice if a guy has a nice tie.

I was at a business meeting recently where the male chair commented excessively on another man's tie. The poor chap was obviously getting embarrassed so I chucked in how 'refreshing' it was to hear comments on male attire instead of comments about we women were wearing. He stopped."

Hell yeah, if I'm in a meeting I check out the buttons on his suit jacket (should be 4 not 3), then I look to see if his shirt has a pocket (it shouldn't), next we're off to the cufflinks (no buttons please) and then he gets a compliment on the tie if he's not failed one of the earlier tests.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

I think she looked lovely.Some people need to get a grip.

I also don't know why people can't compliment a woman or a man for that matter whether she is doing her job or not

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Not sure that her dress would practical for an outside broadcast at the winter olympics.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its because we live in an over protected modern world which has become too politically correct! Follow the leader in the literal sense and even the kids are soft compared to when we were growing up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was the swimming pool complex and very hot, the competitor's were wearing skimpy trunks and costumes. A bit of perspective is needed I think. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought it could possibly not even be a dress but a playsuit with shorts in. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men

do they? most guys i have seen wearing skirt and heels have fabulous legs

I'm sure that can be true but no not for me I'm afraid "

Such lies.

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner


"Hell yeah, if I'm in a meeting I check out the buttons on his suit jacket (should be 4 not 3), then I look to see if his shirt has a pocket (it shouldn't), next we're off to the cufflinks (no buttons please) and then he gets a compliment on the tie if he's not failed one of the earlier tests. "

Maybe I should have a word with my tailor as he's definitely selling me short on buttons.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Woman wears short skirt on BBC.

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/697422/Helen-Skelton-slammed-by-viewers-for-hosting-Olympics-in-tiny-dress

People moan about owt these days"

It reached the level of ridiculous for me when multiple medal winning female athletes are publicly criticised for their hair during the events.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2189317/Gabby-Douglas-bows-pressure-books-celebrity-hair-stylist.html

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/06/twitter-trolls-abuse-olympic-swimmer-rebecca-adlington

The last thing athletes should be bring asked about is their looks and they shouldn't be being criticised for their looks.

They are there to compete. Their performance is the only thing that matters.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short."

It looked like a playsuit with shorts attached

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short."

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hell yeah, if I'm in a meeting I check out the buttons on his suit jacket (should be 4 not 3), then I look to see if his shirt has a pocket (it shouldn't), next we're off to the cufflinks (no buttons please) and then he gets a compliment on the tie if he's not failed one of the earlier tests.

Maybe I should have a word with my tailor as he's definitely selling me short on buttons. "

3 buttons on the sleeve is the sign of a cheap suit bro

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

It looked like a playsuit with shorts attached"

I thought so too.

I did have to look at the photos quite a lot though.

You can actually see the shorts FFS.

I don't know what the Twitter twat who said she wasn't wearing knickers was watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont wwish to come over as Ms Angry Feminist but i am noticing that there are many more comments about womens attire recently in the news.

Susan Sarandon went to an ice bar recently and i saw an article about how 'Sarandon covers up her famous curves with a puffer jacket'.....errrr or......Lady wear a coat cos its chuffing cold!!!

just now on the ladies synchronized diving the male commentator noted how the TeamGB 'costumes look nice, they havent always fitted but these certainly do'

When Teresa May got the PM job the news article led on how she likes to wear leapord print kitten heels when doing her job

it seems that wardrobe choices are more important than someone's ability to do their job.

But women do look much better in a skirt than men "

Oh I don't know! A kilt is very sexy!!!

Sara

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

I did have to look at the photos quite a lot though.

"

Mr Ruggers looked a lot too, just to make sure of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I did have to look at the photos quite a lot though.

Mr Ruggers looked a lot too, just to make sure of course "

Research I believe it's called...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"? "

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hell yeah, if I'm in a meeting I check out the buttons on his suit jacket (should be 4 not 3), then I look to see if his shirt has a pocket (it shouldn't), next we're off to the cufflinks (no buttons please) and then he gets a compliment on the tie if he's not failed one of the earlier tests.

Maybe I should have a word with my tailor as he's definitely selling me short on buttons.

3 buttons on the sleeve is the sign of a cheap suit bro"

Going off topic slightly, I judge a man who has all his suit buttons done up (bottom one needs to be undone so a gentleman can have access to his sword), and usually young men who wear no tie but do up the top button.....

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Wasn't the swimming coverage on after the watershed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?"

Not for me. My job is analyst. The only major study on the subject found that tv exposure has an inverse relationship with analysts ability!! So no I definately don't look up to the analysts I see on tv.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hell yeah, if I'm in a meeting I check out the buttons on his suit jacket (should be 4 not 3), then I look to see if his shirt has a pocket (it shouldn't), next we're off to the cufflinks (no buttons please) and then he gets a compliment on the tie if he's not failed one of the earlier tests.

Maybe I should have a word with my tailor as he's definitely selling me short on buttons.

3 buttons on the sleeve is the sign of a cheap suit bro

Going off topic slightly, I judge a man who has all his suit buttons done up (bottom one needs to be undone so a gentleman can have access to his sword), and usually young men who wear no tie but do up the top button....."

Agree on both counts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?

Not for me. My job is analyst. The only major study on the subject found that tv exposure has an inverse relationship with analysts ability!! So no I definately don't look up to the analysts I see on tv. "

I hardly think she would be for you. But for a girl looking to get into sports journalism she may be. And as i said i think appearence is part of their role. Presenters present and its a large part of it.

Talking about an anlyst and their ability though is a different matter entirely. Appearence i would wholeheartedly agree doesnt affect capability but that wasnt what i said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?

Not for me. My job is analyst. The only major study on the subject found that tv exposure has an inverse relationship with analysts ability!! So no I definately don't look up to the analysts I see on tv.

I hardly think she would be for you. But for a girl looking to get into sports journalism she may be. And as i said i think appearence is part of their role. Presenters present and its a large part of it.

Talking about an anlyst and their ability though is a different matter entirely. Appearence i would wholeheartedly agree doesnt affect capability but that wasnt what i said.

"

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm talking about being on TV not appearance.

I'm saying that getting on TV should not make someone a role model.

If that's how people pick their role models then it's they who have the problem.

My example was simply a fact that the political commentators on TV make much less accurate predictions than political commentators not on TV. TV is about entertainment, pure and simple. Don't confuse "being entertaining" with "being a role model".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?

Not for me. My job is analyst. The only major study on the subject found that tv exposure has an inverse relationship with analysts ability!! So no I definately don't look up to the analysts I see on tv.

I hardly think she would be for you. But for a girl looking to get into sports journalism she may be. And as i said i think appearence is part of their role. Presenters present and its a large part of it.

Talking about an anlyst and their ability though is a different matter entirely. Appearence i would wholeheartedly agree doesnt affect capability but that wasnt what i said.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm talking about being on TV not appearance.

I'm saying that getting on TV should not make someone a role model.

If that's how people pick their role models then it's they who have the problem.

My example was simply a fact that the political commentators on TV make much less accurate predictions than political commentators not on TV. TV is about entertainment, pure and simple. Don't confuse "being entertaining" with "being a role model". "

Ok thats clearer.

But i still have to disagree. As a knowledgeable adult you can make those distinctions. Im specifically talking about kids and young adults who do buy into celebrity culture. Not politicians, not actors playing a role but presenters and how those on tv present when being themselves. Young people are influenced by the trends of dress etc they see on tv. Thats why you get stories of those young people whove spent 1000s on comestic surgery etc to look like someome famous.

You can try to be a role model, you can say your not a role model. But if your on tv you influence people for positive, negative or whatever. And those most likely to be influenced are young people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?

Not for me. My job is analyst. The only major study on the subject found that tv exposure has an inverse relationship with analysts ability!! So no I definately don't look up to the analysts I see on tv.

I hardly think she would be for you. But for a girl looking to get into sports journalism she may be. And as i said i think appearence is part of their role. Presenters present and its a large part of it.

Talking about an anlyst and their ability though is a different matter entirely. Appearence i would wholeheartedly agree doesnt affect capability but that wasnt what i said.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm talking about being on TV not appearance.

I'm saying that getting on TV should not make someone a role model.

If that's how people pick their role models then it's they who have the problem.

My example was simply a fact that the political commentators on TV make much less accurate predictions than political commentators not on TV. TV is about entertainment, pure and simple. Don't confuse "being entertaining" with "being a role model".

Ok thats clearer.

But i still have to disagree. As a knowledgeable adult you can make those distinctions. Im specifically talking about kids and young adults who do buy into celebrity culture. Not politicians, not actors playing a role but presenters and how those on tv present when being themselves. Young people are influenced by the trends of dress etc they see on tv. Thats why you get stories of those young people whove spent 1000s on comestic surgery etc to look like someome famous.

You can try to be a role model, you can say your not a role model. But if your on tv you influence people for positive, negative or whatever. And those most likely to be influenced are young people. "

To be honest, and this is just my personal experience, but the children I grew up with that were most into celebrity culture - still are as adults. They aren't the most critically minded people either.

I think it's a learned behaviour that children can acquire and that not all adults do acquire.

I don't think it's beyond the capabilities of a kid older than 9-11 to understand that Wayne Rooney is a good footballer but being a good footballer doesn't necessarily make you a good person. Nor does it prevent you being one. It's not that hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually disagree not that im not offended at all. But for a change those complaining are telling her to cover up. Im sure if you could see a mans boxers in some shots he would be told the same thing. At the end of the day if you present on tv part of your job is your appearence.i dont blame her though they have ppl for those things.

Shes a role model to young women watching and her skirt shouldnt be so short.

Does your definition of a "role model" basically boil down to "being on TV"?

No. But it doesnt play a major part doesnt it?

Not for me. My job is analyst. The only major study on the subject found that tv exposure has an inverse relationship with analysts ability!! So no I definately don't look up to the analysts I see on tv.

I hardly think she would be for you. But for a girl looking to get into sports journalism she may be. And as i said i think appearence is part of their role. Presenters present and its a large part of it.

Talking about an anlyst and their ability though is a different matter entirely. Appearence i would wholeheartedly agree doesnt affect capability but that wasnt what i said.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm talking about being on TV not appearance.

I'm saying that getting on TV should not make someone a role model.

If that's how people pick their role models then it's they who have the problem.

My example was simply a fact that the political commentators on TV make much less accurate predictions than political commentators not on TV. TV is about entertainment, pure and simple. Don't confuse "being entertaining" with "being a role model".

Ok thats clearer.

But i still have to disagree. As a knowledgeable adult you can make those distinctions. Im specifically talking about kids and young adults who do buy into celebrity culture. Not politicians, not actors playing a role but presenters and how those on tv present when being themselves. Young people are influenced by the trends of dress etc they see on tv. Thats why you get stories of those young people whove spent 1000s on comestic surgery etc to look like someome famous.

You can try to be a role model, you can say your not a role model. But if your on tv you influence people for positive, negative or whatever. And those most likely to be influenced are young people.

To be honest, and this is just my personal experience, but the children I grew up with that were most into celebrity culture - still are as adults. They aren't the most critically minded people either.

I think it's a learned behaviour that children can acquire and that not all adults do acquire.

I don't think it's beyond the capabilities of a kid older than 9-11 to understand that Wayne Rooney is a good footballer but being a good footballer doesn't necessarily make you a good person. Nor does it prevent you being one. It's not that hard. "

Id agree with that. But i would say as its not hard for us, however some wont ever learn to make that distinction. So those are probably the ones being influenced. I think programme makers have to bear that in mind. Which they may well of done and decided as thats not their demographic then it will be good for the ratings more than it would annoy anyone x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Id agree with that. But i would say as its not hard for us, however some wont ever learn to make that distinction. So those are probably the ones being influenced. I think programme makers have to bear that in mind. Which they may well of done and decided as thats not their demographic then it will be good for the ratings more than it would annoy anyone x"

Well programme makers are generally funded by selling advertising. The directors of a company have a legal obligation to do what is in the best interests of the share holders and that would be to sell more advertising. Those most influenced by TV would be the prime viewers to attract, since those are the ones the advertisers most want. So I really don't think the solution is best addressed by the programme makers.

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over a year ago


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Id agree with that. But i would say as its not hard for us, however some wont ever learn to make that distinction. So those are probably the ones being influenced. I think programme makers have to bear that in mind. Which they may well of done and decided as thats not their demographic then it will be good for the ratings more than it would annoy anyone x

Well programme makers are generally funded by selling advertising. The directors of a company have a legal obligation to do what is in the best interests of the share holders and that would be to sell more advertising. Those most influenced by TV would be the prime viewers to attract, since those are the ones the advertisers most want. So I really don't think the solution is best addressed by the programme makers. "

I think your misunderstanding me again. Im saying they responsibility to take influence into account. Ultimately as you say they will act in their best interest like i said on this occassion they probably did just that.

If theres a problem thats what ofcom is for. I dont actually think this occassion is that big a deal.

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

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"Maybe I should have a word with my tailor as he's definitely selling me short on buttons.

3 buttons on the sleeve is the sign of a cheap suit bro"

You weren't specific about 'where' on a suit the four should be. But you're correct, unless you can afford to choose to have as many or few as you like (and three or fewer on t is fairly normal).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe I should have a word with my tailor as he's definitely selling me short on buttons.

3 buttons on the sleeve is the sign of a cheap suit bro

You weren't specific about 'where' on a suit the four should be. But you're correct, unless you can afford to choose to have as many or few as you like (and three or fewer on t is fairly normal)."

On the sleeve bro

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