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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought dad bods was the new thing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me "

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought dad bods was the new thing?"

Dad's bod is the new hipster I hear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really. If I find someone attractive then I find them attractive. Which has then led to many a dissapointment in the bedroom trouser snake department. I feel I should be more like Teabags to be honest and demand pics and length, girth details.

I've always been drawn to outgoing men who make me laugh and put me at ease because as a shy gal I find that quality in others quite sexy and appealing, so body shape is not my top factor in meeting someone. If that makes sense?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman" "

The problem is women have it shoved down their throats a lot more than men about how we should and shouldn't look, look at how nasty some mags are if a celebrity puts weight one, plus I feel women are way more sensitive over body size than guys

From teenagers girls are looking at mags and the media and seeing slim women or bigger women being put down and they feel they should look that way

Just my opinion of course no doubt everybody will now we along to tell me I'm talking bollocks

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not really. If I find someone attractive then I find them attractive. Which has then led to many a dissapointment in the bedroom trouser snake department. I feel I should be more like Teabags to be honest and demand pics and length, girth details.

I've always been drawn to outgoing men who make me laugh and put me at ease because as a shy gal I find that quality in others quite sexy and appealing, so body shape is not my top factor in meeting someone. If that makes sense?

"

No way of knowing how good the sex will be from cock pics and measurements.

It is a gamble meeting and merging.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman" "

Yeah it's a load of bollocks,a woman is a woman whatever size/shape she is and that applies to a man as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman"

The problem is women have it shoved down their throats a lot more than men about how we should and shouldn't look, look at how nasty some mags are if a celebrity puts weight one, plus I feel women are way more sensitive over body size than guys

From teenagers girls are looking at mags and the media and seeing slim women or bigger women being put down and they feel they should look that way

Just my opinion of course no doubt everybody will now we along to tell me I'm talking bollocks "

Great point

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman"

The problem is women have it shoved down their throats a lot more than men about how we should and shouldn't look, look at how nasty some mags are if a celebrity puts weight one, plus I feel women are way more sensitive over body size than guys

From teenagers girls are looking at mags and the media and seeing slim women or bigger women being put down and they feel they should look that way

Just my opinion of course no doubt everybody will now we along to tell me I'm talking bollocks "

Then the tables need turning.

I'm sick of feeling inadequate from nasty messages telling me I'm fat and that I'm just not slim enough.

I find it belittling and rude.

If you don't like the look of someone, why bring size into it?

Women have it harder in a lot of ways but overall we do seem to live in very shallow times.

Men are under pressure too I hasten to add but as much as us females?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Real men come in the form of attitude and outlook.

For example you can have a gym buff who's great to look at, does he's MMA, supposedly 'hard as nails' etc and everything you'd assume the fairer sex would go for. But all he thinks about is himself, looks out for no body, ignores he's family, and solely out to make his own mark in the world.

Then you have average Joe. Works all the hours under the sun to support those who need him, gives his time and support to others, protects those close and others in need. Just doesn't have the time or money to get in the gym or fitness in general.

There is no shape to a real men. Purely attitude.

Those examples are actually from personal experience. To the point that Mr gym buff cried when the proverbial shit hit the fan in Afghanistan where Average Joe, who was TA, kept his head and was professional throughout.

Just because someone doesn't look like a "real man" or "Man's man" doesn't mean for a second they're not.

10p worth

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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago

Just where I need to be.

I don't think I have ever looked at a man and thought he's a real man by body. I have no set body type that I prefer as long as they are not extreme on the slim overweight scale. I like variety

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

theres as much if not more pressure on guys to look a certain way these days

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"theres as much if not more pressure on guys to look a certain way these days"

I think this too.

Perhaps it's the irrational desire for perfection some people have developed. It's unhealthy and it is on the increase.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Real men come in the form of attitude and outlook.

For example you can have a gym buff who's great to look at, does he's MMA, supposedly 'hard as nails' etc and everything you'd assume the fairer sex would go for. But all he thinks about is himself, looks out for no body, ignores he's family, and solely out to make his own mark in the world.

Then you have average Joe. Works all the hours under the sun to support those who need him, gives his time and support to others, protects those close and others in need. Just doesn't have the time or money to get in the gym or fitness in general.

There is no shape to a real men. Purely attitude.

Those examples are actually from personal experience. To the point that Mr gym buff cried when the proverbial shit hit the fan in Afghanistan where Average Joe, who was TA, kept his head and was professional throughout.

Just because someone doesn't look like a "real man" or "Man's man" doesn't mean for a second they're not.

10p worth"

No shape to a real woman then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a dad body

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have a dad body "

no dump trucks allowed though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"theres as much if not more pressure on guys to look a certain way these days"

Thanks to men's health magazine? Air brushed ripped bodies that on the whole simple aren't acheivable for most guys

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By *ingerrrrWoman
over a year ago

Meath

I'm certainly attracted to a certain type visually. But recently had a crap meet with one of these body beautiful ripped 6f6 guys..

I usually go for the person not the look, so the way the speak, act when I meet them is more attractive than the "Greek god" look.

Although I will still go phowar

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?"

This is wrong....

Men are plopped into a box regarding shape.

They are marketed to hard...

I know women who won't touch a guy who is not a certain weight/height.

In general it's the bigger the better, there are limits, but as a guy, people in general will always admire you cause you're big.

Our society has become so "Americanised" that this is the definition of male "beauty".

Also I visit several gyms and there are guys in there in good shape, but not "perfect" in their eyes & you can tell they have esteem issues around this and we are not talking "fat" or "skinny" just normal!

This has to be wrong!

But I say it all the time in these threads, our society is constructed by powerful voices, we are told what's right and wrong, good and bad, given definitions to categorise people and we simply don't have time to question them.... So everyone gets labelled.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

different women like different things, i like slim to average sized men, my husband is very slim.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"Real men come in the form of attitude and outlook.

For example you can have a gym buff who's great to look at, does he's MMA, supposedly 'hard as nails' etc and everything you'd assume the fairer sex would go for. But all he thinks about is himself, looks out for no body, ignores he's family, and solely out to make his own mark in the world.

Then you have average Joe. Works all the hours under the sun to support those who need him, gives his time and support to others, protects those close and others in need. Just doesn't have the time or money to get in the gym or fitness in general.

There is no shape to a real men. Purely attitude.

Those examples are actually from personal experience. To the point that Mr gym buff cried when the proverbial shit hit the fan in Afghanistan where Average Joe, who was TA, kept his head and was professional throughout.

Just because someone doesn't look like a "real man" or "Man's man" doesn't mean for a second they're not.

10p worth"

I half agree with this, but I think a "real man" is about his training, abilities and achievements.

He should train his body to be stronger, educate himself to the furthest of his abilities, experience as much of life and formulate his perspective on found knowledge, hone his best skills & have the intelligence to apply all this to achieve something...

It might be an outdated concept instilled in me from my dad... But it's how I see it.

But that doesn't mean being "perfect" just not wasting what you have.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

From an attraction point of _iew I like men to be more "masculine" to look at but I wouldn't consider that other men weren't "real" and I would never try and undermine a whole group of men just because they weren't the type I go for, that's unkind, unnecessary and just rude.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

A real man is a man who is real. Any man.

I mean, wtf would an unreal man be?

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By *avewestcumbriaMan
over a year ago

Whitehaven

Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"A real man is a man who is real. Any man.

I mean, wtf would an unreal man be?"

one who turns in to a cup if good coffee and a bar of chocolate after giving you a mind blowing orgasm?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"A real man is a man who is real. Any man.

I mean, wtf would an unreal man be?

one who turns in to a cup if good coffee and a bar of chocolate after giving you a mind blowing orgasm? "

That would be a dream man!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff."

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women."

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body? "

I think it's just the name they gave men who like a biscuit with their cuppa . I quite like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Real men come in the form of attitude and outlook.

For example you can have a gym buff who's great to look at, does he's MMA, supposedly 'hard as nails' etc and everything you'd assume the fairer sex would go for. But all he thinks about is himself, looks out for no body, ignores he's family, and solely out to make his own mark in the world.

Then you have average Joe. Works all the hours under the sun to support those who need him, gives his time and support to others, protects those close and others in need. Just doesn't have the time or money to get in the gym or fitness in general.

There is no shape to a real men. Purely attitude.

Those examples are actually from personal experience. To the point that Mr gym buff cried when the proverbial shit hit the fan in Afghanistan where Average Joe, who was TA, kept his head and was professional throughout.

Just because someone doesn't look like a "real man" or "Man's man" doesn't mean for a second they're not.

10p worth

I half agree with this, but I think a "real man" is about his training, abilities and achievements.

He should train his body to be stronger, educate himself to the furthest of his abilities, experience as much of life and formulate his perspective on found knowledge, hone his best skills & have the intelligence to apply all this to achieve something...

It might be an outdated concept instilled in me from my dad... But it's how I see it.

But that doesn't mean being "perfect" just not wasting what you have. "

I'd say you full agree with me then. You kind of put it better than me but what you're saying was kind of the gist I was going for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a dad body

no dump trucks allowed though.

"

Cheeky

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body? "

Nor me. Oh, wait, I didn't have children!

I think the dad bod thing was invented by men who don't want to go to the gym to try to convince everyone they have more desirable bodies than people that do. I think it's called marketing, or spin.

I'll await magazines reporting that mummy tummies and gravity bods are "in" for women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body?

I think it's just the name they gave men who like a biscuit with their cuppa . I quite like it

"

Ah...I was worried I was doing some thing wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body?

Nor me. Oh, wait, I didn't have children!

I think the dad bod thing was invented by men who don't want to go to the gym to try to convince everyone they have more desirable bodies than people that do. I think it's called marketing, or spin.

I'll await magazines reporting that mummy tummies and gravity bods are "in" for women."

I have a wonderful gravity bod,complete with stretch marks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body? "

No but it might have changed the amount time / priority spent on keeping in shape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body?

I think it's just the name they gave men who like a biscuit with their cuppa . I quite like it

Ah...I was worried I was doing some thing wrong "

The type of biscuit is important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tall and broad. I've never been attracted to skinny men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a particular "type", I like men!!

I like men who are masculine looking, rugged but I also like men who look "cute" somewhat feminine.

Body shape.... Muscular, slim and toned, average, rugby type. Not too thin but not overweight.

I'm attracted to a naughty glint in the eye, a cheeky smile and dimples!!!

From a personal point of _iew a "real man" is someone who is self sufficient, doesn't need a woman but wants one!!!!

A real woman should be the same. More than capable of looking after herself. Confidence is very attractive.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body?

Nor me. Oh, wait, I didn't have children!

I think the dad bod thing was invented by men who don't want to go to the gym to try to convince everyone they have more desirable bodies than people that do. I think it's called marketing, or spin.

I'll await magazines reporting that mummy tummies and gravity bods are "in" for women.

I have a wonderful gravity bod,complete with stretch marks."

I've got a huge wobbly tummy, gravity bod and stretch marks. I'll be fighting them off once they realise how hot it is!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman"

The problem is women have it shoved down their throats a lot more than men about how we should and shouldn't look, look at how nasty some mags are if a celebrity puts weight one, plus I feel women are way more sensitive over body size than guys

From teenagers girls are looking at mags and the media and seeing slim women or bigger women being put down and they feel they should look that way

Just my opinion of course no doubt everybody will now we along to tell me I'm talking bollocks

Then the tables need turning.

I'm sick of feeling inadequate from nasty messages telling me I'm fat and that I'm just not slim enough.

I find it belittling and rude.

If you don't like the look of someone, why bring size into it?

Women have it harder in a lot of ways but overall we do seem to live in very shallow times.

Men are under pressure too I hasten to add but as much as us females?

"
I don't know why but have to agree with you that we,are supposed to look like super models but some guys can be the exact opposite and expect us to treat them like gods gift to women lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't like a six pack.

So I've gone for a family pack.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't like a six pack.

So I've gone for a family pack. "

I don't like 6 packs. Like shoulder/arm/thigh definition, but abs just put me off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman" "

Shape for me is exactly that - SHAPE. Now you could be a size 26 and be shapely or a size 8 and still be shapely. Shape is a proportionate thing and as long as all departments blend in neatly with the other it is a magnificent thing. Big upper bodies with skinny legs and flat bottoms - not a good look, same with thick cankles and flat chest. Dimensions is the key I would say?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body?

Nor me. Oh, wait, I didn't have children!

I think the dad bod thing was invented by men who don't want to go to the gym to try to convince everyone they have more desirable bodies than people that do. I think it's called marketing, or spin.

I'll await magazines reporting that mummy tummies and gravity bods are "in" for women.

I have a wonderful gravity bod,complete with stretch marks.

I've got a huge wobbly tummy, gravity bod and stretch marks. I'll be fighting them off once they realise how hot it is! "

I'm ok because I'm an :stereotypealert: "older woman" and we all know what a man magnet that is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't buy into this "real woman/man" crap I guess it must stem from past years where a desirable woman had an hourglass curvy figure, and a guy would be the fit strong provider. I am more attracted to those that obviously make an effort to make the most of what they have. That doesn't mean perfection. I guess It's a natural instinct to be attracted to someone that looks healthy.

Extremes of any body type just don't look healthy to me and therefore i don't find them attractive.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?

This is wrong....

Men are plopped into a box regarding shape.

They are marketed to hard...

I know women who won't touch a guy who is not a certain weight/height.

In general it's the bigger the better, there are limits, but as a guy, people in general will always admire you cause you're big.

Our society has become so "Americanised" that this is the definition of male "beauty".

Also I visit several gyms and there are guys in there in good shape, but not "perfect" in their eyes & you can tell they have esteem issues around this and we are not talking "fat" or "skinny" just normal!

This has to be wrong!

But I say it all the time in these threads, our society is constructed by powerful voices, we are told what's right and wrong, good and bad, given definitions to categorise people and we simply don't have time to question them.... So everyone gets labelled. "

Americanised?

Hmmm not sure about that to be honest.

Or it stems from the fasion industry?

And from that the presistant need for perfection which clouds personality traits!

It also may arise from the fact that we are easily led by what constitutes as beauty.

I've been affected by so many comments over the years but refused to lose weight because of that.

I am now losing weight because I'm mentally ready to.

A spoken word poet called Shane Koyczan puts it painfully real.

Must find the link.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are plenty of men who won't touch a woman of a certain weight. And those who will,in secret.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm thinking the real woman/man thing comes from the media,via the film industry and advertising. Remember the old cigarette ads? Real men smoke Woodbines or something or other.

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By *inkyJamesMan
over a year ago

80020 Broomfield

A Variety of shapes & sizes can be intencly enjoyed when a lucky lady is the center of attion being gang banged to her heart's content

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm thinking the real woman/man thing comes from the media,via the film industry and advertising. Remember the old cigarette ads? Real men smoke Woodbines or something or other."

Ahhhhhhhhh yehhh I remember running to the shop for Woodbines for my Dad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't like a six pack.

So I've gone for a family pack.

I don't like 6 packs. Like shoulder/arm/thigh definition, but abs just put me off. "

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst


"Dad bods rule. Sod going gym 2 hours a day when you could be doing more important stuff.

ALL men rule. Look around in the street, all shapes and sizes of men are walking about holding hands with all shapes and sizes of women.

When did this dad bod thing become a thing? Having a child didn't change my body? "

Its meant to mean that once a man has got married and had a kid that he doesnt have to worry about the way he looks anymore, same as mum bod.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman" "

The people that have those opinions are easy to avoid. We can't win no matter what, so why worry about it?

We just please ourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im probably going to get lynched for this but hey

I think men get it just as bad as women its a shallow world we live in a guys cock is too small or he is to fat or he is too hairy or he looks to babyfaced or he is too musclebound etc etc

I get that this is about sex so attraction is the main key here but these same judgements follow out into "real life" its not just women who get judged purely based on looks its everyone

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman"

The people that have those opinions are easy to avoid. We can't win no matter what, so why worry about it?

We just please ourselves. "

I'm not so much worried as annoyed with the shallow waters I find myself in lately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im probably going to get lynched for this but hey

I think men get it just as bad as women its a shallow world we live in a guys cock is too small or he is to fat or he is too hairy or he looks to babyfaced or he is too musclebound etc etc

I get that this is about sex so attraction is the main key here but these same judgements follow out into "real life" its not just women who get judged purely based on looks its everyone "

I agree with you. Especially on sites like this where men outnumber women.

There have been many posts from men asking what it is that women want. Undertones revealing that they feel insecure about themselves because they think only muscle men with massive cocks get meets. It's sad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im probably going to get lynched for this but hey

I think men get it just as bad as women its a shallow world we live in a guys cock is too small or he is to fat or he is too hairy or he looks to babyfaced or he is too musclebound etc etc

I get that this is about sex so attraction is the main key here but these same judgements follow out into "real life" its not just women who get judged purely based on looks its everyone "

Not lynched at all.

I agree.

Women have requirements, some are stricter than others.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Im probably going to get lynched for this but hey

I think men get it just as bad as women its a shallow world we live in a guys cock is too small or he is to fat or he is too hairy or he looks to babyfaced or he is too musclebound etc etc

I get that this is about sex so attraction is the main key here but these same judgements follow out into "real life" its not just women who get judged purely based on looks its everyone "

I think you're right. It's difficult to resist the pressure from the media and our peers but if all of us just said "no, I'm not buying your aftershave until you use a bloke who's just wandered out of Wetherspoons in your advert" they would soon change. However I think we all buy into the dream a little bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have certain body types I'm attracted to

And some body types I wouldn't meet, I don't consider them lesser men because I'm not attracted to them though that comes over as a little arrogant to me

EXACTLY.

Yet we as women are told we have to look a certain way all the fricking time.

Too skinny? Not a real woman.

Overweight? Too fat or "you're a REAL woman"

The people that have those opinions are easy to avoid. We can't win no matter what, so why worry about it?

We just please ourselves.

I'm not so much worried as annoyed with the shallow waters I find myself in lately."

Sorry didn't mean you were worried. Crap choice of words on my part.

The world is shallow. It's getting worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise. "

You couldn't be more right if you tried

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?

This is wrong....

Men are plopped into a box regarding shape.

They are marketed to hard...

I know women who won't touch a guy who is not a certain weight/height.

In general it's the bigger the better, there are limits, but as a guy, people in general will always admire you cause you're big.

Our society has become so "Americanised" that this is the definition of male "beauty".

Also I visit several gyms and there are guys in there in good shape, but not "perfect" in their eyes & you can tell they have esteem issues around this and we are not talking "fat" or "skinny" just normal!

This has to be wrong!

But I say it all the time in these threads, our society is constructed by powerful voices, we are told what's right and wrong, good and bad, given definitions to categorise people and we simply don't have time to question them.... So everyone gets labelled.

Americanised?

Hmmm not sure about that to be honest.

Or it stems from the fasion industry?

And from that the presistant need for perfection which clouds personality traits!

It also may arise from the fact that we are easily led by what constitutes as beauty.

I've been affected by so many comments over the years but refused to lose weight because of that.

I am now losing weight because I'm mentally ready to.

A spoken word poet called Shane Koyczan puts it painfully real.

Must find the link."

Americanised as in big is better...

I knew people who got all kinds of stuff just for being big... Really!! Including jobs!

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"I'm thinking the real woman/man thing comes from the media,via the film industry and advertising. Remember the old cigarette ads? Real men smoke Woodbines or something or other."

I think we all know what we mean by "real", there's a lot of semantics on these threads, if we lived in a world where we couldn't interpret words differently to their prescribed definition, it would kill the English language...

And yes I think you're kind of right, that and cowboy films.

Also the forces of social construction have been at hand since the beginning of time.

We can't fight it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?

This is wrong....

Men are plopped into a box regarding shape.

They are marketed to hard...

I know women who won't touch a guy who is not a certain weight/height.

In general it's the bigger the better, there are limits, but as a guy, people in general will always admire you cause you're big.

Our society has become so "Americanised" that this is the definition of male "beauty".

Also I visit several gyms and there are guys in there in good shape, but not "perfect" in their eyes & you can tell they have esteem issues around this and we are not talking "fat" or "skinny" just normal!

This has to be wrong!

But I say it all the time in these threads, our society is constructed by powerful voices, we are told what's right and wrong, good and bad, given definitions to categorise people and we simply don't have time to question them.... So everyone gets labelled.

Americanised?

Hmmm not sure about that to be honest.

Or it stems from the fasion industry?

And from that the presistant need for perfection which clouds personality traits!

It also may arise from the fact that we are easily led by what constitutes as beauty.

I've been affected by so many comments over the years but refused to lose weight because of that.

I am now losing weight because I'm mentally ready to.

A spoken word poet called Shane Koyczan puts it painfully real.

Must find the link.

Americanised as in big is better...

I knew people who got all kinds of stuff just for being big... Really!! Including jobs!"

Mad, mad mad mad mad!

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?

This is wrong....

Men are plopped into a box regarding shape.

They are marketed to hard...

I know women who won't touch a guy who is not a certain weight/height.

In general it's the bigger the better, there are limits, but as a guy, people in general will always admire you cause you're big.

Our society has become so "Americanised" that this is the definition of male "beauty".

Also I visit several gyms and there are guys in there in good shape, but not "perfect" in their eyes & you can tell they have esteem issues around this and we are not talking "fat" or "skinny" just normal!

This has to be wrong!

But I say it all the time in these threads, our society is constructed by powerful voices, we are told what's right and wrong, good and bad, given definitions to categorise people and we simply don't have time to question them.... So everyone gets labelled.

Americanised?

Hmmm not sure about that to be honest.

Or it stems from the fasion industry?

And from that the presistant need for perfection which clouds personality traits!

It also may arise from the fact that we are easily led by what constitutes as beauty.

I've been affected by so many comments over the years but refused to lose weight because of that.

I am now losing weight because I'm mentally ready to.

A spoken word poet called Shane Koyczan puts it painfully real.

Must find the link.

Americanised as in big is better...

I knew people who got all kinds of stuff just for being big... Really!! Including jobs!

Mad, mad mad mad mad!"

True... You meet a lot of collage educated guys, with degrees who are just fucking stupid!!

But they were big and could stand in the way of a more skilful guy, in some game or other.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Females, do you regard a "real" man to look a certain way?

Going by the "real women have curves" threads we so often see, my thoughts are, I don't ever see men being plopped into a box like women are regarding shape.

Do you have a prerequisite for the man/men you wanna meet?

This is wrong....

Men are plopped into a box regarding shape.

They are marketed to hard...

I know women who won't touch a guy who is not a certain weight/height.

In general it's the bigger the better, there are limits, but as a guy, people in general will always admire you cause you're big.

Our society has become so "Americanised" that this is the definition of male "beauty".

Also I visit several gyms and there are guys in there in good shape, but not "perfect" in their eyes & you can tell they have esteem issues around this and we are not talking "fat" or "skinny" just normal!

This has to be wrong!

But I say it all the time in these threads, our society is constructed by powerful voices, we are told what's right and wrong, good and bad, given definitions to categorise people and we simply don't have time to question them.... So everyone gets labelled.

Americanised?

Hmmm not sure about that to be honest.

Or it stems from the fasion industry?

And from that the presistant need for perfection which clouds personality traits!

It also may arise from the fact that we are easily led by what constitutes as beauty.

I've been affected by so many comments over the years but refused to lose weight because of that.

I am now losing weight because I'm mentally ready to.

A spoken word poet called Shane Koyczan puts it painfully real.

Must find the link.

Americanised as in big is better...

I knew people who got all kinds of stuff just for being big... Really!! Including jobs!

Mad, mad mad mad mad!

True... You meet a lot of collage educated guys, with degrees who are just fucking stupid!!

But they were big and could stand in the way of a more skilful guy, in some game or other."

I recall when living in America on quite a few nights out where I'd witness some American men actually egging one another on to beat ten bells out of one another to see who was the strongest/biggest.

I often felt like I was in a dumb American movie.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise. "

If you add breakdown when told your 2 1/2yr old perfect blonde haired blue eyrd little girl has cancer & holding the head & hand of a complete stranger (a biker brother thoughh) as they pass after an RTA with tears rolling down your face then maybe I'm a real man..

But I just consider myself a dad & a human being tbh.

x

S

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise.

If you add breakdown when told your 2 1/2yr old perfect blonde haired blue eyrd little girl has cancer & holding the head & hand of a complete stranger (a biker brother thoughh) as they pass after an RTA with tears rolling down your face then maybe I'm a real man..

But I just consider myself a dad & a human being tbh.

x

S"

Gulp.

Is your daughter okay?

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged ."

"the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged"

This is bang on!!

Men have only one ideal.... Hercules... Anything less and you're not going to get that boost everyone needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you have cock and balls your a man. Simples!

It's how you use them that defines a man

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged ."

I agree that there is a lot more pressure on men to look a certain way but I think you need to try being a woman if you think men have a harder time.

Although eating disorders in boys/men may be rising much faster than in girls/women, it's been a significant problem for girls for far longer and the overall number of girls with an ED is still a hell of a lot higher than the number of boys.

It is estimated that 11% of people with an ED are male.

I can't be bothered to look out all the statistics, but they're not difficult to find for those interested.

Suicide amongst men has been higher in men than in women for a long time, maybe always, I don't know. It may be partly due to pressure to look a certain way but there's a lot more to it than that. Men are less likely to talk about their feelings or seek help, which contributes to the problem.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise.

If you add breakdown when told your 2 1/2yr old perfect blonde haired blue eyrd little girl has cancer & holding the head & hand of a complete stranger (a biker brother thoughh) as they pass after an RTA with tears rolling down your face then maybe I'm a real man..

But I just consider myself a dad & a human being tbh.

x

S

Gulp.

Is your daughter okay?

"

Yes thanks, lost a kidney & some smaller bits of her insides But the chemo & radiotherapy will affect her growth & until she's a bit older we won't know whether she'll reach puberty or be able to have kids..She is now 9 but we still go to GOSH every 6 months, hoping at Xmas she'll go 5 yearly which will be a bit of a milestone for us/her

x

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blame the media

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged .

"the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged"

This is bang on!!

Men have only one ideal.... Hercules... Anything less and you're not going to get that boost everyone needs."

You are kidding me?

Men have all sorts of benefits of male privilege.

Try being paid less, having fewer opportunities, promoted less and generally regarded as less capable just because of your sex and then tell me how your ego feels.

Men are judged on lots of things, including career success. In fact they are more likely to be judged on other factors over looks, unless their career is modelling or similar. For women it's all about looks. If a woman does not look a certain way, that's all that matters, no matter how successful she is, how brilliant or what she achieves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol this has totally gone off topic...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"lol this has totally gone off topic... "

Not really

is like a river

twists and turns

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged .

"the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged"

This is bang on!!

Men have only one ideal.... Hercules... Anything less and you're not going to get that boost everyone needs.

You are kidding me?

Men have all sorts of benefits of male privilege.

Try being paid less, having fewer opportunities, promoted less and generally regarded as less capable just because of your sex and then tell me how your ego feels.

Men are judged on lots of things, including career success. In fact they are more likely to be judged on other factors over looks, unless their career is modelling or similar. For women it's all about looks. If a woman does not look a certain way, that's all that matters, no matter how successful she is, how brilliant or what she achieves."

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged .

I agree that there is a lot more pressure on men to look a certain way but I think you need to try being a woman if you think men have a harder time.

Although eating disorders in boys/men may be rising much faster than in girls/women, it's been a significant problem for girls for far longer and the overall number of girls with an ED is still a hell of a lot higher than the number of boys.

It is estimated that 11% of people with an ED are male.

I can't be bothered to look out all the statistics, but they're not difficult to find for those interested.

Suicide amongst men has been higher in men than in women for a long time, maybe always, I don't know. It may be partly due to pressure to look a certain way but there's a lot more to it than that. Men are less likely to talk about their feelings or seek help, which contributes to the problem."

I agree with everything you say who made the problem of eating disorders in women men by preaching a sexual look that pleased them and there needs but the table are turning a quick look through female profiles shows woman are now putting pressure on men to confirm in the same way men put pressure on them to conform for centuries.

Suicide amongst middle aged men is to do with the destruction on the male ego by many things how they look being amongst the list not feeling needed being another feeling of inadequate all feeling both sexes feel the difference is no one ever compliments your average man where as woman are always complimented especially on these kinds of sites .

There no argument here the male ego is more fragile and on the whole men are the weaker sex when it comes to psyche its just not realise being men tend to think they have to keep quite for fear of being perceived as weak again the male ego at work .

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"lol this has totally gone off topic...

Not really

is like a river

twists and turns "

Rivers come in all shapes & sizes, but they are still rivers, same rules apply I guess..

S

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

You are living and breathing so therefore are real in my book

The ability to inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide doesn't come with a size label for either sex

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged .

I agree that there is a lot more pressure on men to look a certain way but I think you need to try being a woman if you think men have a harder time.

Although eating disorders in boys/men may be rising much faster than in girls/women, it's been a significant problem for girls for far longer and the overall number of girls with an ED is still a hell of a lot higher than the number of boys.

It is estimated that 11% of people with an ED are male.

I can't be bothered to look out all the statistics, but they're not difficult to find for those interested.

Suicide amongst men has been higher in men than in women for a long time, maybe always, I don't know. It may be partly due to pressure to look a certain way but there's a lot more to it than that. Men are less likely to talk about their feelings or seek help, which contributes to the problem.

I agree with everything you say who made the problem of eating disorders in women men by preaching a sexual look that pleased them and there needs but the table are turning a quick look through female profiles shows woman are now putting pressure on men to confirm in the same way men put pressure on them to conform for centuries.

Suicide amongst middle aged men is to do with the destruction on the male ego by many things how they look being amongst the list not feeling needed being another feeling of inadequate all feeling both sexes feel the difference is no one ever compliments your average man where as woman are always complimented especially on these kinds of sites .

There no argument here the male ego is more fragile and on the whole men are the weaker sex when it comes to psyche its just not realise being men tend to think they have to keep quite for fear of being perceived as weak again the male ego at work ."

I disagree with you totally, sorry.

I think you need to experience what women experience throughout a lifetime.

The pressure is growing for men but it's nowhere near as bad as it is for women and we've had it forever.

Name me one male news anchor who has been sacked for getting too old, just as an example.

If the male psyche is weaker, why are 89% of the people with eating disorders female?

Men may not be complimented on their appearance as much, I don't know, but they're sure as hell not criticised and judged as much either! Nowhere near.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged ."

I agree with you that men dont have it so easy these days and think that womens lib or feminism hasnt always been a good thing. Its hard for young men but it helps if they have been brought up to be confident, not to take things or themselves too seriously. I still think women are judged by their looks more than men though, then they are treated better than men are. On the whole not that many men like big women i think you will find.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

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The second anyone described themselves or others as 'real', I would click next.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst


"The second anyone described themselves or others as 'real', I would click next.

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over a year ago

I think women like the aesthetic shape

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My last relationship ended because I put half a stone on, the door hit her in the ass as she was leaving, and good riddance!

I am what I am, some like some don't...next?!

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"There's a lot of pressure on men to conform to a certain stereotype .

This fact has lead to eating disorders amongst teenage boys growing at twice the rate they are amongst teenage girls .

steroid abuse amongst young men is on the increase male suicide is on the increase especial among middle aged men .

The pressure on men is real and the male ego is more fragile than a females egos in my opinion .

plus no one ever strokes the males ego unless he looks like Greek God where as women of all shapes and sizes will have there ego massaged at some point by men in this world .

I think you need to be very self assured and truly at ease with yourself as a man to play in this world because your egos going to get knocked left right and center far more often than its going to get massaged .

I agree that there is a lot more pressure on men to look a certain way but I think you need to try being a woman if you think men have a harder time.

Although eating disorders in boys/men may be rising much faster than in girls/women, it's been a significant problem for girls for far longer and the overall number of girls with an ED is still a hell of a lot higher than the number of boys.

It is estimated that 11% of people with an ED are male.

I can't be bothered to look out all the statistics, but they're not difficult to find for those interested.

Suicide amongst men has been higher in men than in women for a long time, maybe always, I don't know. It may be partly due to pressure to look a certain way but there's a lot more to it than that. Men are less likely to talk about their feelings or seek help, which contributes to the problem.

I agree with everything you say who made the problem of eating disorders in women men by preaching a sexual look that pleased them and there needs but the table are turning a quick look through female profiles shows woman are now putting pressure on men to confirm in the same way men put pressure on them to conform for centuries.

Suicide amongst middle aged men is to do with the destruction on the male ego by many things how they look being amongst the list not feeling needed being another feeling of inadequate all feeling both sexes feel the difference is no one ever compliments your average man where as woman are always complimented especially on these kinds of sites .

There no argument here the male ego is more fragile and on the whole men are the weaker sex when it comes to psyche its just not realise being men tend to think they have to keep quite for fear of being perceived as weak again the male ego at work .

I disagree with you totally, sorry.

I think you need to experience what women experience throughout a lifetime.

The pressure is growing for men but it's nowhere near as bad as it is for women and we've had it forever.

Name me one male news anchor who has been sacked for getting too old, just as an example.

If the male psyche is weaker, why are 89% of the people with eating disorders female?

Men may not be complimented on their appearance as much, I don't know, but they're sure as hell not criticised and judged as much either! Nowhere near."

that ok we can disagree I could counter your arguments with a few more opinions of my own but it would derail the post as we debated back and forth

so I will leave it there your life experiences has lead you to form your opinion on this subject mine has lead me to my opinions which means nether of us can be wrong or right as we are talking from experiences mine being raised by a single parent my mum.

it was a pleasure to here your thoughts and I hope to butt heads with you in the future as I love a good debate from time to time

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"My last relationship ended because I put half a stone on, the door hit her in the ass as she was leaving, and good riddance!

I am what I am, some like some don't...next?! "

Well if same applied with us H would be the one being booted, I'm a stone heavier than when we met, she was 7st when we met, a gentleman would never say..but it would be me kicking her down the road if I was that shallow.. Usually though the shallow excuse is just hiding the real ones..

S

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over a year ago


"Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise.

If you add breakdown when told your 2 1/2yr old perfect blonde haired blue eyrd little girl has cancer & holding the head & hand of a complete stranger (a biker brother thoughh) as they pass after an RTA with tears rolling down your face then maybe I'm a real man..

But I just consider myself a dad & a human being tbh.

x

S

Gulp.

Is your daughter okay?

Yes thanks, lost a kidney & some smaller bits of her insides But the chemo & radiotherapy will affect her growth & until she's a bit older we won't know whether she'll reach puberty or be able to have kids..She is now 9 but we still go to GOSH every 6 months, hoping at Xmas she'll go 5 yearly which will be a bit of a milestone for us/her

x

S"

Good luck and stay positive. Every new day with her is a blessing x

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Nah,real men change nappies,cry with you when you have period pains and go cushion shopping with their women. Single real men have lots of shoes, grooming products,exfoliate and moisturise.

If you add breakdown when told your 2 1/2yr old perfect blonde haired blue eyrd little girl has cancer & holding the head & hand of a complete stranger (a biker brother thoughh) as they pass after an RTA with tears rolling down your face then maybe I'm a real man..

But I just consider myself a dad & a human being tbh.

x

S

Gulp.

Is your daughter okay?

Yes thanks, lost a kidney & some smaller bits of her insides But the chemo & radiotherapy will affect her growth & until she's a bit older we won't know whether she'll reach puberty or be able to have kids..She is now 9 but we still go to GOSH every 6 months, hoping at Xmas she'll go 5 yearly which will be a bit of a milestone for us/her

x

S

Good luck and stay positive. Every new day with her is a blessing x"

Thank you x

We've always been positive tbh, the initial being told is obviously like being hit by the proverbial freight train but I've always been a "Why not me" type of person rather than a "Why me" type & our daughter is growing up the same..

x

S

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