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Royal Navy not all at sea!

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By *olgate OP   Man
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

The MOD has admitted that the almost all of the Royal Navy fleet are currently docked. Reasons including scheduled maintenance and shore leave.

No navy warships are currently taking place in any exercises anywhere in the world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

HMS Ambush has just had a big dent knocked in it and now resides forlornly in Gib.

Good business for the locals though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well all that rum ain't gonna drink itself ffs

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

We were just talking about that. I wonder what's afoot.

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By *andys manMan
over a year ago

colchester

Does this mean more wives are getting extra cock lol

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The MOD has admitted that the almost all of the Royal Navy fleet are currently docked. Reasons including scheduled maintenance and shore leave.

No navy warships are currently taking place in any exercises anywhere in the world.

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not quite correct.....

at the moment just about a 1/3rd of the fleet are out at seas... the issue is that there are none of the current class 45 destroyers out at seas, which are the most modern ships the navy have...

some have just come back, some are just being preped to go out.. and some are in for training/minimal repairs...

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By *olgate OP   Man
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"The MOD has admitted that the almost all of the Royal Navy fleet are currently docked. Reasons including scheduled maintenance and shore leave.

No navy warships are currently taking place in any exercises anywhere in the world.

not quite correct.....

at the moment just about a 1/3rd of the fleet are out at seas... the issue is that there are none of the current class 45 destroyers out at seas, which are the most modern ships the navy have...

some have just come back, some are just being preped to go out.. and some are in for training/minimal repairs..."

Anything still at sea is fairly insignificant with regards to frontline action

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

A day alongside is a day wasted as I always got told. Must admit I sometimes miss just being at sea and sitting on the upper deck with a cold one just watching the water

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The powers that be have calculated that based on current operational requirements the 45 is akin to a 'sledgehammer to cracking a walnut'. All of the issues have been well documented, including issues with the engines, however routine maintenance and summer leave periods have had a big part to play. The fleet are so short of manpower it's meant boys and girls have been away for long periods without respite, which tends to make more people hand in their notice. That being so it makes good sense while things are a little quieter operationally to make sure harmony time with family is maximised. No doubt another busy period will be just around the corner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trust me the Royal Navy ARE all at sea! If you catch my drift

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By *olgate OP   Man
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Trust me the Royal Navy ARE all at sea! If you catch my drift "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The powers that be have calculated that based on current operational requirements the 45 is akin to a 'sledgehammer to cracking a walnut'. All of the issues have been well documented, including issues with the engines, however routine maintenance and summer leave periods have had a big part to play. The fleet are so short of manpower it's meant boys and girls have been away for long periods without respite, which tends to make more people hand in their notice. That being so it makes good sense while things are a little quieter operationally to make sure harmony time with family is maximised. No doubt another busy period will be just around the corner. "

I thought the 45's had generally favourable reviews no?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The powers that be have calculated that based on current operational requirements the 45 is akin to a 'sledgehammer to cracking a walnut'. All of the issues have been well documented, including issues with the engines, however routine maintenance and summer leave periods have had a big part to play. The fleet are so short of manpower it's meant boys and girls have been away for long periods without respite, which tends to make more people hand in their notice. That being so it makes good sense while things are a little quieter operationally to make sure harmony time with family is maximised. No doubt another busy period will be just around the corner.

I thought the 45's had generally favourable reviews no? "

The Mod tried to build them with British made engines in an attempt to 'buy British', but sadly they're inferior and habeas had problems. When the 45 is good to go it's formidable to say the least. Not knocking it overall, but there have been some issues.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Sailors like docking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pfftt....navy?

Never heard of her!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"HMS Ambush has just had a big dent knocked in it and now resides forlornly in Gib.

Good business for the locals though "

Yes, that £3.5bn sub with state-of-the-art tech that can hear an otter fart in the Baltic...

Turns out they don't have enough trained personnel to work it properly and stop it from bumping into a slow moving "noisy" tanker.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"The MOD has admitted that the almost all of the Royal Navy fleet are currently docked. Reasons including scheduled maintenance and shore leave.

No navy warships are currently taking place in any exercises anywhere in the world.

not quite correct.....

at the moment just about a 1/3rd of the fleet are out at seas... the issue is that there are none of the current class 45 destroyers out at seas, which are the most modern ships the navy have...

some have just come back, some are just being preped to go out.. and some are in for training/minimal repairs..."

There are 6 45-type destroyers are beset with engine troubles AND because of their state-of-the-art technical wizardry they need a particular electrical "socket" to charge their fancy computers.

Only the MOD only made two chargers.

One 45 is in perma-dock as a 'training ship', leaving the other 5 scrambling about for the remaining "socket".

Somebody really thought this trough...

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"The powers that be have calculated that based on current operational requirements the 45 is akin to a 'sledgehammer to cracking a walnut'. All of the issues have been well documented, including issues with the engines, however routine maintenance and summer leave periods have had a big part to play. The fleet are so short of manpower it's meant boys and girls have been away for long periods without respite, which tends to make more people hand in their notice. That being so it makes good sense while things are a little quieter operationally to make sure harmony time with family is maximised. No doubt another busy period will be just around the corner. "

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/07/destroyers-will-break-down-if-sent-to-middle-east-admits-royal-navy

And in case you don't like the Grauniad...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3629306/Royal-Navy-s-advanced-destroyers-break-Gulf-water-WARM-bungling-defence-chiefs-admit.html

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Did you know:

* The original order for the 45s was for 12 destroyers @ £1bn in 1998 (£12bn)

* The order was cut to 8 in the SDR

* Only 6 were eventually built (2006-08)

* They cost £3.5bn each and none was fitted with Tomahawk cruise missiles requested by the navy.

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1998, 12 destroyers = £12bn and some change.(1)

2008, 6 destroyers = £21bn

Is that how "cheap at half the price" actually works - half of what you want at double the cost?

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QED: Someone can't do their maths.

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Update:

2016, still not working properly...

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(Fn.1: Wikipedia still gives the cost of the 45 as " ?Over £1,050M per ship inc R&D" - considerably. Citation needed)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you know:

* The original order for the 45s was for 12 destroyers @ £1bn in 1998 (£12bn)

* The order was cut to 8 in the SDR

* Only 6 were eventually built (2006-08)

* They cost £3.5bn each and none was fitted with Tomahawk cruise missiles requested by the navy.

.

1998, 12 destroyers = £12bn and some change.(1)

2008, 6 destroyers = £21bn

Is that how "cheap at half the price" actually works - half of what you want at double the cost?

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QED: Someone can't do their maths.

.

Update:

2016, still not working properly...

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(Fn.1: Wikipedia still gives the cost of the 45 as " ?Over £1,050M per ship inc R&D" - considerably. Citation needed)"

Procurement will be the death of the military ?

They make equipment they believe will do the job without ever having done the job ?

So we end up with equipment for all the forces that isn't what is needed ?

2 years too make the new generator for the Army ? It's been made to be towed by a vehicle that has a hard back ?

First bend it broken the surround of the generator ?

Hadn't been put on the back of a wagon it was to be towed by ??

Little things like this cost millions !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you know:

* The original order for the 45s was for 12 destroyers @ £1bn in 1998 (£12bn)

* The order was cut to 8 in the SDR

* Only 6 were eventually built (2006-08)

* They cost £3.5bn each and none was fitted with Tomahawk cruise missiles requested by the navy.

.

1998, 12 destroyers = £12bn and some change.(1)

2008, 6 destroyers = £21bn

Is that how "cheap at half the price" actually works - half of what you want at double the cost?

.

QED: Someone can't do their maths.

.

Update:

2016, still not working properly...

.

.

.

(Fn.1: Wikipedia still gives the cost of the 45 as " ?Over £1,050M per ship inc R&D" - considerably. Citation needed)

Procurement will be the death of the military ?

They make equipment they believe will do the job without ever having done the job ?

So we end up with equipment for all the forces that isn't what is needed ?

2 years too make the new generator for the Army ? It's been made to be towed by a vehicle that has a hard back ?

First bend it broken the surround of the generator ?

Hadn't been put on the back of a wagon it was to be towed by ??

Little things like this cost millions !!!!! "

Yep, sounds like MoD in all it's glory! :-/

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over a year ago

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over a year ago


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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Private Eye has been pointing out various faults with the ships for ages, so I'd be surprised if anything has changed in the 6 months or so since the original post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in navy so I prob no more

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

Another factor to bear in mind is that the Royal Navy counts the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) ships as part of their front line strength.- Officially, that means an 'extra' 12 hulls in the water under RN command.

For some years now the RFA have been carrying on tasks that used to be carried out by RN ships.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in navy so I prob no more"

Clearly..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I was in the Navy in the nineties we were hardly ever at sea then, so nothing's changed..

I think it was on average 3 months a year...

Harry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Small ships do 9 months now and east of suez 9 months also

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"I'm in navy so I prob no more"

You're one source. Private Eye will almost certainly have one (or more) ranked higher. And/or in the beancounter department, where the facts are.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_I6mL0_Lbw

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