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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

you married but the other half people doesn't know... take a seat... not that!!!!

someone asked me if i had "read" a certain book.... i haven't read it as such but i have listened to it via audiobook....

now if it was a film based on a book you would said that you had read it... but wasn't sure how i should have answered it.....

so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, because you say "I have listened to it"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I listen to a lot of audio books, mainly cause I need total silence to read and can never get that, so listen in the car or when out on my bike.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. That's not lying, that's semantics.

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By *ark jamiesonMan
over a year ago

twickenham

its not lying but its not being wholly accurate a book is the whole not just a small snippet

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey


"you married but the other half people doesn't know... take a seat... not that!!!!

someone asked me if i had "read" a certain book.... i haven't read it as such but i have listened to it via audiobook....

now if it was a film based on a book you would said that you had read it... but wasn't sure how i should have answered it.....

so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it....."

Yes of course.

Read/ listened - you still know all the details and information/ plot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've read it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you married but the other half people doesn't know... take a seat... not that!!!!

someone asked me if i had "read" a certain book.... i haven't read it as such but i have listened to it via audiobook....

now if it was a film based on a book you would said that you had read it... but wasn't sure how i should have answered it.....

so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it....."

Personally if you have seen a film based on a book then no, you haven't read the book but if you've listened to an audio version of a book, then yes I would agree that you have read the book.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Unless they are expecting some sort of written literary review, I think you'll be fine....

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By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Yep I'd say that counts

Films based on books don't count as reading the book though, otherwise grand total increases too.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Book and talking book should be the same. No foul there.

A film is a different matter as there are often major changes to the storyline

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it counts, otherwise you'd have to say that blind people can't read!

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Not quite the same, but close enough for all practical purposes. You don't see the words and punctuation and are thus reliant on the voicer to interpret. Also, by not seeing the words, you don't enhance your written vocabulary. I see many people use words and spell them semi-phonetically, it's obvious they've never or rarely seen the words written.

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply.

Watching a film doesn't really count at all - they are usually significantly different from the book.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Yes. That's not lying, that's semantics. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply

"

Come again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You haven't read it...

Someone else has and you listened to them reading it

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"you married but the other half people doesn't know... take a seat... not that!!!!

someone asked me if i had "read" a certain book.... i haven't read it as such but i have listened to it via audiobook....

now if it was a film based on a book you would said that you had read it... but wasn't sure how i should have answered it.....

so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it....."

I would simply answer 'I listened to it on audio'

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Not quite the same, but close enough for all practical purposes. You don't see the words and punctuation and are thus reliant on the voicer to interpret. Also, by not seeing the words, you don't enhance your written vocabulary. I see many people use words and spell them semi-phonetically, it's obvious they've never or rarely seen the words written.

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply.

Watching a film doesn't really count at all - they are usually significantly different from the book.

"

Indeed, which was why going to see Polanski's Macbeth at the cinema was not enough to save my English Lit O level!!

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World

I would accept a audio book as a read book. All the words are there, exactly the same as the written version.

At worse it is a little white lie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it....."

Maybe you would get away with that in America young man, but over here if you don't have ink on your finger tip's that's a rap on the knuckles with the ruler....

Now go stand I the corner and think about your outrageous behaviour

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

You consumed a book... doesn't matter if you read it or someone read it to you. You still know the story.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply

Come again? "

Braille /'bre?l/ is a tactile writing system used by people who are blind or visually impaired. It is traditionally written with embossed paper. Braille-users can read computer screens and other electronic supports thanks to refreshable braille displays. They can write braille with the original slate and stylus or type it on a braille writer, such as a portable braille note-taker, or on a computer that prints with a braille embosser.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you married but the other half people doesn't know... take a seat... not that!!!!

someone asked me if i had "read" a certain book.... i haven't read it as such but i have listened to it via audiobook....

now if it was a film based on a book you would said that you had read it... but wasn't sure how i should have answered it.....

so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it....."

.....no words....none

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you married but the other half people doesn't know... take a seat... not that!!!!

someone asked me if i had "read" a certain book.... i haven't read it as such but i have listened to it via audiobook....

now if it was a film based on a book you would said that you had read it... but wasn't sure how i should have answered it.....

so can you say you have read a book if you have listened to it.....

.....no words....none"

Well there were words, just spoken not written

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your brain has digested the words through a different sense. You still know what the book was about and how it was written.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply

Come again?

Braille /'bre?l/ is a tactile writing system used by people who are blind or visually impaired. It is traditionally written with embossed paper. Braille-users can read computer screens and other electronic supports thanks to refreshable braille displays. They can write braille with the original slate and stylus or type it on a braille writer, such as a portable braille note-taker, or on a computer that prints with a braille embosser."

Why would deaf people want audio books and why couldn't they just read regular books?

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply

Come again?

Braille /'bre?l/ is a tactile writing system used by people who are blind or visually impaired. It is traditionally written with embossed paper. Braille-users can read computer screens and other electronic supports thanks to refreshable braille displays. They can write braille with the original slate and stylus or type it on a braille writer, such as a portable braille note-taker, or on a computer that prints with a braille embosser.

Why would deaf people want audio books and why couldn't they just read regular books? "

Oh dear - my bad

Of course I meant blind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Deaf people can read via Braille, though it's obviously convenient for them to listen to audiobooks - but the same arguments apply

Come again?

Braille /'bre?l/ is a tactile writing system used by people who are blind or visually impaired. It is traditionally written with embossed paper. Braille-users can read computer screens and other electronic supports thanks to refreshable braille displays. They can write braille with the original slate and stylus or type it on a braille writer, such as a portable braille note-taker, or on a computer that prints with a braille embosser.

Why would deaf people want audio books and why couldn't they just read regular books?

Oh dear - my bad

Of course I meant blind "

I know what you meant, I was just being a knob

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