FabSwingers.com forum: Isis or Isis inspired Attacks .

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?"

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Oh out of the blue a lot of peeple becomes expert

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

but I'm sure many think they do!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?"

It's an organisation like any other. It's got a structure and needs funds to operate. Step one: starve it of funding.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

but I'm sure many think they do! "

As we will no doubt see any second now...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It's very very difficult, any direct "military intervention" could potentially reduce the number of identified IS troops. However that would also have the effect of providing fuel to the propaganda machine which "inspires" people to carry out attacks in support of the cause.

Cal

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

And along came Expert number 1.

The entirity of the world converts to their religion and does exactly as they want....

War ended.

Im amazing.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The next round of Middle East peace talks are being held in the jacuzzi at Chams

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure you can but I did see yesterday, a good article saying that the Internet needs to be more closely monitored. If web users are going on sites that seek to radicalise them then can't these sites be closed down? I'm guessing not.

And can we stop giving terrorists ideas. One news report said: good job there weren't people in the back of that lorry. I thought great, so the next one you've now given them the idea to fill with terrorists who can then shoot more people. Good job TV reporter.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Fuck me Ive been relegated to Expert number 4.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The next round of Middle East peace talks are being held in the jacuzzi at Chams

Hahaha

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good start would probably be to stop bombing and invading the Middle East.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way. "

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"A good start would probably be to stop bombing and invading the Middle East.

But they've got oil Dave. Dave, oil.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The next round of Middle East peace talks are being held in the jacuzzi at Chams

I had peace talks in there once after slipping and tripping over legs and falling into a massive pair of boobs, head in lap hands on nips. Whoops!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Oh out of the blue a lot of peeple becomes expert

It amazes me the amount of people on here who are experts at everything from terrorism to finance to science and everything in between!

Quite why Theresa May didn't use the fab forums to staff the cabinet is a travesty!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help"

Not sure he meant Education in that sense

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help"

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A good start would probably be to stop bombing and invading the Middle East.

But they've got oil Dave. Dave, oil. "

Lets just frack everything, oh no the nimbys don't want that. It's all fucked up really ain't it Rodney.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

It's an organisation like any other. It's got a structure and needs funds to operate. Step one: starve it of funding."

Have we managed to stop turkey buying oil off them yet?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Not sure he meant Education in that sense

Stop posting my posts before i've posted them.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Not sure you can but I did see yesterday, a good article saying that the Internet needs to be more closely monitored. If web users are going on sites that seek to radicalise them then can't these sites be closed down? I'm guessing not.

I know my thread was asking for solutions but the above does make a good point !

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Not sure he meant Education in that sense

Stop posting my posts before i've posted them. "

It is very warm up there in your head

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Oh out of the blue a lot of peeple becomes expert

It amazes me the amount of people on here who are experts at everything from terrorism to finance to science and everything in between!

Quite why Theresa May didn't use the fab forums to staff the cabinet is a travesty!"

I know!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The next round of Middle East peace talks are being held in the jacuzzi at Chams

They should hold Cobra meetings there. I'd watch.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Not sure he meant Education in that sense

Stop posting my posts before i've posted them.

It is very warm up there in your head

It's definitely busy

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think ISIS etc are really about religion ... I think it's about anger and frustration with life and the world, perceived injustices, and people being manipulated into violence and war to serve the wishes of a twisted minority.

Thus we need to address the worldwide problems that make people so easily manipulated into hatred and violence, such as inequality, disillusionment, distribution of wealth and so on.

Okeys carry on. Please see my other threads in which I solve world poverty, the refugee crisis, and how to connect a USB cable at the first attempt.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The next round of Middle East peace talks are being held in the jacuzzi at Chams

They should hold Cobra meetings there. I'd watch."

I would imagine there are a few snakes in the jacuzzi already!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?"

In some cases yes. Blind devotion/Conditioning/Belief/Inability to Question ......

School isn't all learning.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think ISIS etc are really about religion ... I think it's about anger and frustration with life and the world, perceived injustices, and people being manipulated into violence and war to serve the wishes of a twisted minority.

Thus we need to address the worldwide problems that make people so easily manipulated into hatred and violence, such as inequality, disillusionment, distribution of wealth and so on.

Okeys carry on. Please see my other threads in which I solve world poverty, the refugee crisis, and how to connect a USB cable at the first attempt."

Usb C fixes the last one at least

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The next round of Middle East peace talks are being held in the jacuzzi at Chams

They should hold Cobra meetings there. I'd watch.

I would imagine there are a few snakes in the jacuzzi already!!"

I'll be the snake charmer. I'll get my recorder out.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

Dropping bombs on populated areas where a group of fanatics may be held up is not the answer. They proved this in Iraq killing thousands of innocent people.

Out of curiosity, had any one heard of Abu Bakr all-Baghdadi before Ossama and Sadam were killed?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Thus we need to address the worldwide problems that make people so easily manipulated into hatred and violence, such as inequality, disillusionment, distribution of wealth and so on.

Okeys carry on. Please see my other threads in which I solve world poverty, the refugee crisis, and how to connect a USB cable at the first attempt."

I've never been able to stabilise a souffle..... what advise can you offer ?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

Dropping bombs on populated areas where a group of fanatics may be held up is not the answer. They proved this in Iraq killing thousands of innocent people.

Out of curiosity, had any one heard of Abu Bakr all-Baghdadi before Ossama and Sadam were killed?

Abu Bakr ? Sounds like a Middle Eastern Greggs.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?

In some cases yes. Blind devotion/Conditioning/Belief/Inability to Question ......

School isn't all learning. "

K....but these people have been to these war torn countries they've seen the effect war has and it's given them an anger and the desire to show you what the impact of war is.

And so they come and show what war means to the safe soft populations of the west.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help"

Two completely different things here. Academic education to educating what's wrong and what's right.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

You ever read the real word of islam?

Teaching the word of the book ain't gonna make peaceful people

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iptopcoolMan
over a year ago

mid

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Hey we aren't all pervs but I love your pics and I've fabbed them all

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Two completely different things here. Academic education to educating what's wrong and what's right. "

Who decides whats wrong and whats right?

From their perspective they're the underdog fighting a desperate war for survival against a vastly superior enemy who kills thier familes daily.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

You ever read the real word of islam?

Teaching the word of the book ain't gonna make peaceful people"

Reading your comments either tbh

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But for the people who've said education (but not the education you're thinking of) how about a breif curiculum?

A broad strokes overview of what you want to indoctrinate, sorry teach them with?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok. Time to ignore this thread as the 'experts' all start to shout at each other and are desperately googling to cut and paste selected bits to support their arguments.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

You ever read the real word of islam?

Teaching the word of the book ain't gonna make peaceful people

Reading your comments either tbh "

Ermm ok not sure what that was meant to say?

I'll admit ive not read the entire book i got far too bored but it is very hard to ignore that it was written to raise an army.

I did manage to get through the whole bible when i was younger though while it's laudable in that Christianity learns from the mistakes of the old testement/torah it still has far too many unpleasant sections for modern man.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok. Time to ignore this thread as the 'experts' all start to shout at each other and are desperately googling to cut and paste selected bits to support their arguments."

Ha ha

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Hey we aren't all pervs but I love your pics and I've fabbed them all

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Usb C fixes the last one at least"

I predict a reduction in global stress levels once USB C becomes the standard

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

You ever read the real word of islam?

Teaching the word of the book ain't gonna make peaceful people"

It's how those words are tought and interpreted. Which is why recognised scholars should be teaching it local mosques.

Christianity isn't always peaceful....

Isis to Islam is what the KKK and Opus Dei are to the church.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never been able to stabilise a souffle..... what advise can you offer ?"

Make sure that your eggs are room temperature before starting, and serve immediately, it's the steam that helps prevent your souffle from collapsing

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

You ever read the real word of islam?

Teaching the word of the book ain't gonna make peaceful people

It's how those words are tought and interpreted. Which is why recognised scholars should be teaching it local mosques.

Christianity isn't always peaceful....

Isis to Islam is what the KKK and Opus Dei are to the church.

Well there isn't a huge amount of room for interpretation on most of them.

You are correct Christianity has some terrible parts (aproval of slavery etc) there is no question of teaching interpretation though, modern Christianity just pretends they dont exist any more and doesnt teach them.

I mean can anyone remember going to church and hearing about how slaves should obey thier masters?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

Dropping bombs on populated areas where a group of fanatics may be held up is not the answer. They proved this in Iraq killing thousands of innocent people.

Out of curiosity, had any one heard of Abu Bakr all-Baghdadi before Ossama and Sadam were killed?

Abu Bakr ? Sounds like a Middle Eastern Greggs. "

Abu Bakr is the leader of Isis.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?"

If you're referring to the incident in NIce. There is no evidence yet that it has anything to do with Isis. The neighbor of truck attacker Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel is quoted as saying

“It has nothing to do with Islam”

Until someone actually starts addressing the perceived inequality in the world and the double standards of the 'west' particularly in respect of the Palestinian situation nothing will change. That isn't going to happen because of the Jewish influence/control of government in the USA and UK.

Only by addressing the cause will terrorism be resolved.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Money, Religion, Territory - it has a lot to answer for.

I have no ideas for world peace, because if the countless mindless deaths of innocents doesn't make them stop and think, then nothing will.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If you're referring to the incident in NIce. There is no evidence yet that it has anything to do with Isis. The neighbor of truck attacker Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel is quoted as saying

“It has nothing to do with Islam”

Only by addressing the cause will terrorism be resolved."

You think the route cause of all islamic terrorism is the israel palestine situation?

Althought its bizare you say this is nothing to do with islam and theres no link, then go on to day the cause is palestine

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Money, Religion, Territory - it has a lot to answer for.

I have no ideas for world peace, because if the countless mindless deaths of innocents doesn't make them stop and think, then nothing will."

The threat of complete and utter instant anhialation seems to have worked quite well for the major countries.

Maybe we should give isis ICMBs

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

It's an organisation like any other. It's got a structure and needs funds to operate. Step one: starve it of funding.

Have we managed to stop turkey buying oil off them yet?"

Doubt it, not sure how else they are funding 100'000's of mercenaries on ~$1,000 a month each

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?"

What about the so called 'home grown' supporters, a lot of them have never lived in war torn countries & have as much experience of war as I have.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

It's an organisation like any other. It's got a structure and needs funds to operate. Step one: starve it of funding.

Have we managed to stop turkey buying oil off them yet?

Doubt it, not sure how else they are funding 100'000's of mercenaries on ~$1,000 a month each "

Captured gold, currency (iirc they have most of the money traders/exchanges in iraq working for them), antiques, drugs, slaves and human organ smuggling.

Heck half thier equipment was provided by the americanswhen they caltured it off the Iraqi army.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?

What about the so called 'home grown' supporters, a lot of them have never lived in war torn countries & have as much experience of war as I have.

Many of them are the ones who've gone to those training camps.

Iirc the medical student had his training in somalia.

But interwsting that you don't need education about the impact of war for you not to be a murdering terrorist, whats the differnce between you and these homegrown ones then.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Violence is part of the human condition. So I'm afraid it's like saying how can we stop swinging.

Some people are more prone to violent action whether educated or not.

So unless we are going to drug the population, it will always occur.

On a practical level there are always steps to reduce risk but you will never eliminate it.

I did face palm a few times yesterday when so called experts and commentators kept saying. It's Impossible to stop people using vehicles to attack people.

They are educated and experts yet can't even imagine how to solve something that simple.

They don't even have to think that hard either as the tech already exists.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

You ever read the real word of islam?

Teaching the word of the book ain't gonna make peaceful people"

Very true...read the Koran it is scary stuff, mind you so is the Bible

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Violence is part of the human condition. So I'm afraid it's like saying how can we stop swinging.

Some people are more prone to violent action whether educated or not.

So unless we are going to drug the population, it will always occur.

On a practical level there are always steps to reduce risk but you will never eliminate it.

I did face palm a few times yesterday when so called experts and commentators kept saying. It's Impossible to stop people using vehicles to attack people.

They are educated and experts yet can't even imagine how to solve something that simple.

They don't even have to think that hard either as the tech already exists. "

How is it simple?

Wr build much of it into our archetechture but it's hardly practicle to fit 1-2ft wide anti truck barriers to every foot path in the country isnt it?

Massive anti truck barriers in every village that closes off the main road once a year for jubilie or may day etc?

Or the most obvious any motorway, how do you stop a terrorist in a lorry going the wrong way down the m1 smashing into oncoming traffic?

It is impossible

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

It's an organisation like any other. It's got a structure and needs funds to operate. Step one: starve it of funding.

Have we managed to stop turkey buying oil off them yet?

Doubt it, not sure how else they are funding 100'000's of mercenaries on ~$1,000 a month each

Captured gold, currency (iirc they have most of the money traders/exchanges in iraq working for them), antiques, drugs, slaves and human organ smuggling.

Heck half thier equipment was provided by the americanswhen they caltured it off the Iraqi army."

Ah yes, the good old drug trade - don't get me started on that one.

The problem with this thread is that it's a bit like the horse bolted from the stable and then someone says "right, has anyone got an idea to get the horse back in?"

No but I'd still like the string up Paul Bremer and Donald Rumsfeld.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm sure no answers are ideal but here's my attempt seeing I started the thread .

1. All imams and mosques to make it clear Islam is meant to be a peaceful religion and that killing people sends you to hell not heaven .

2. Israel becomes the bigger man , and invests in schools , infrastructure , aid and independence to the Palestinians ,

Treat as you want to be treated .

3. All religions and religious leaders announce that All religions have an equal right to exist .

4. Stop all air attacks and drone attacks ! We wouldn't risk it on a friendly country !

Treat as you want to be treated !

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

It's an organisation like any other. It's got a structure and needs funds to operate. Step one: starve it of funding.

Have we managed to stop turkey buying oil off them yet?

Doubt it, not sure how else they are funding 100'000's of mercenaries on ~$1,000 a month each

Captured gold, currency (iirc they have most of the money traders/exchanges in iraq working for them), antiques, drugs, slaves and human organ smuggling.

Heck half thier equipment was provided by the americanswhen they caltured it off the Iraqi army.

Ah yes, the good old drug trade - don't get me started on that one.

The problem with this thread is that it's a bit like the horse bolted from the stable and then someone says "right, has anyone got an idea to get the horse back in?"

No but I'd still like the string up Paul Bremer and Donald Rumsfeld."

I'm of the keep calm and carry on mentality.

Still more likley to die in an assassination attempt by the cat on the stairs than by isis

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Radicalisation of young musslims should be stopped through scholars teaching the real word of Islam.

Dropping bombs on populated areas where a group of fanatics may be held up is not the answer. They proved this in Iraq killing thousands of innocent people.

Out of curiosity, had any one heard of Abu Bakr all-Baghdadi before Ossama and Sadam were killed?

Abu Bakr ? Sounds like a Middle Eastern Greggs.

Abu Bakr is the leader of Isis."

Father Christmas has a beard. xx

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"Violence is part of the human condition. So I'm afraid it's like saying how can we stop swinging.

Some people are more prone to violent action whether educated or not.

So unless we are going to drug the population, it will always occur.

On a practical level there are always steps to reduce risk but you will never eliminate it.

I did face palm a few times yesterday when so called experts and commentators kept saying. It's Impossible to stop people using vehicles to attack people.

They are educated and experts yet can't even imagine how to solve something that simple.

They don't even have to think that hard either as the tech already exists.

How is it simple?

Wr build much of it into our archetechture but it's hardly practicle to fit 1-2ft wide anti truck barriers to every foot path in the country isnt it?

Massive anti truck barriers in every village that closes off the main road once a year for jubilie or may day etc?

Or the most obvious any motorway, how do you stop a terrorist in a lorry going the wrong way down the m1 smashing into oncoming traffic?

It is impossible

I did not say it was predictable or that it would eliminate risk, but already we have technology that can stop vehicles crashing and recognising pedestrians.

Simply pass a law that all vehicles sold need to have this installed.

Then work on retro fitting after that.

It's not perfect, it's not cheap and there are ways around it. But it would reduce the opportunity and ease.

Not to mention the vast number of lives that would be saved daily on the roads.

It's a lack of imagination that says we can't take any steps to reduce risk.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Ok. Time to ignore this thread as the 'experts' all start to shout at each other and are desperately googling to cut and paste selected bits to support their arguments."

Voice of experience??

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

To be fair to that TV reporter, I'm pretty sure a group of terrorists have figured that one out for themselves.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"Ok. Time to ignore this thread as the 'experts' all start to shout at each other and are desperately googling to cut and paste selected bits to support their arguments.

Why should people not voice their opinion or concerns. Sure it will effect little but saying nothing does not have much impact either.

Being allowed to vent is one of the things that we need to protect. Whether it be here or calling in to a radio talk show.

Better let it out than let it build up inside.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?

What about the so called 'home grown' supporters, a lot of them have never lived in war torn countries & have as much experience of war as I have.

Many of them are the ones who've gone to those training camps.

Iirc the medical student had his training in somalia.

But interwsting that you don't need education about the impact of war for you not to be a murdering terrorist, whats the differnce between you and these homegrown ones then.

They may have gone to the training camps but prior to that if they were born,bred & raised in the country they then turn on they probably have suffered 1st hand no more than you & me.

And the difference?? Who knows a sense of entitlement / injustice / misplaced loyalty / radicalisation / should be fighting alongside their 'brothers'....the list is endless....

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I actually think there has been some good comments !

And who knows if some governments looked at fab maybe the world would be a better place

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok. Time to ignore this thread as the 'experts' all start to shout at each other and are desperately googling to cut and paste selected bits to support their arguments.

Why should people not voice their opinion or concerns. Sure it will effect little but saying nothing does not have much impact either.

Being allowed to vent is one of the things that we need to protect. Whether it be here or calling in to a radio talk show.

Better let it out than let it build up inside. "

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?

What about the so called 'home grown' supporters, a lot of them have never lived in war torn countries & have as much experience of war as I have.

Many of them are the ones who've gone to those training camps.

Iirc the medical student had his training in somalia.

But interwsting that you don't need education about the impact of war for you not to be a murdering terrorist, whats the differnce between you and these homegrown ones then.

They may have gone to the training camps but prior to that if they were born,bred & raised in the country they then turn on they probably have suffered 1st hand no more than you & me.

And the difference?? Who knows a sense of entitlement / injustice / misplaced loyalty / radicalisation / should be fighting alongside their 'brothers'....the list is endless...."

The 'home grown' fighters make up 10-15% of the fighting force. They are insignificant in the grand scheme of things except as propoganda. Generally they make shit fighters too. It's the chechen mercenaries that keep me awake at night.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Education at root level. I've seen it first hand in their countries, and seen here (though not first hand) radicalisation happening on our very doorstep.

Education is the only way.

Didnt we just arrest a collection of physics and medical students planning an attack in the uk?

Many of the attacks such as bangledesh are being carried out by educated middle class young men.

Education doesn't nessecerialy help

Sorry that made me laugh.

Education as in the impact of war etc.... not a degree in coronation street.

You think people who have gone to training camps in Syria and somalia some of the most war torn places do not know the impact of war?

What about the so called 'home grown' supporters, a lot of them have never lived in war torn countries & have as much experience of war as I have.

Many of them are the ones who've gone to those training camps.

Iirc the medical student had his training in somalia.

But interwsting that you don't need education about the impact of war for you not to be a murdering terrorist, whats the differnce between you and these homegrown ones then.

They may have gone to the training camps but prior to that if they were born,bred & raised in the country they then turn on they probably have suffered 1st hand no more than you & me.

And the difference?? Who knows a sense of entitlement / injustice / misplaced loyalty / radicalisation / should be fighting alongside their 'brothers'....the list is endless....

True.

But I do think they are also the ones that destabilise the very heart of the communities we live in.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

I think we do over estimate their reach.

The are over a billion Muslims in the world. Isis represent only say 100000 tops. And it's falling.

I do think the west is trying to stay as far out of this one as possible. Learning from the past.

We are contributing just enough to tip the balance in favour of the locals fighting isis. But the days of us going in and resolving it ourselves or funding other violent militias only to have them turn on us at a later date are behind us for now.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 16/07/16 09:53:09]

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Violence is part of the human condition. So I'm afraid it's like saying how can we stop swinging.

Some people are more prone to violent action whether educated or not.

So unless we are going to drug the population, it will always occur.

On a practical level there are always steps to reduce risk but you will never eliminate it.

I did face palm a few times yesterday when so called experts and commentators kept saying. It's Impossible to stop people using vehicles to attack people.

They are educated and experts yet can't even imagine how to solve something that simple.

They don't even have to think that hard either as the tech already exists.

How is it simple?

Wr build much of it into our archetechture but it's hardly practicle to fit 1-2ft wide anti truck barriers to every foot path in the country isnt it?

Massive anti truck barriers in every village that closes off the main road once a year for jubilie or may day etc?

Or the most obvious any motorway, how do you stop a terrorist in a lorry going the wrong way down the m1 smashing into oncoming traffic?

It is impossible

I did not say it was predictable or that it would eliminate risk, but already we have technology that can stop vehicles crashing and recognising pedestrians.

Simply pass a law that all vehicles sold need to have this installed.

Then work on retro fitting after that.

It's not perfect, it's not cheap and there are ways around it. But it would reduce the opportunity and ease.

Not to mention the vast number of lives that would be saved daily on the roads.

It's a lack of imagination that says we can't take any steps to reduce risk."

Dear lord seriously?

So a massive vastly expensive upgrade campaign that for one doesnt even reliably work.

And as its a retrofit would take all of 10 miniutes to remove.

It would certainly be a way to cripple the haulage and auto industry and still wouldnt sove the problem.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 16/07/16 09:54:08]

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Dear lord seriously?

So a massive vastly expensive upgrade campaign that for one doesnt even reliably work.

And as its a retrofit would take all of 10 miniutes to remove.

It would certainly be a way to cripple the haulage and auto industry and still wouldnt sove the problem.

That's fine but it's coming anyway.

Like I said at the beginning though. It's not impossible.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear lord seriously?

So a massive vastly expensive upgrade campaign that for one doesnt even reliably work.

And as its a retrofit would take all of 10 miniutes to remove.

It would certainly be a way to cripple the haulage and auto industry and still wouldnt sove the problem.

That's fine but it's coming anyway.

Like I said at the beginning though. It's not impossible.

So are emissions devices, doesnt stop half the bikes on the road having a simple resistor in place of thier o2 sensors though.

It is currently inpossible.

Even with your technological solution on all vehicles its still impossible to stop it.

And even if you did stop it bricks knives and baseball bats are still fairly easy to get a hold of.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

You can do a lot less damage with a brick or baseball bat.

As for 10 minutes to get around. I'll give you a free ten minutes with my car or any car on the street and see if you can steal it.

Car theft did not drop due to thieves getting a conscience it was down to technology innovating and improving.

Necessity is the mother of invention. I'm sure smarter people than us could figure it out.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Oh out of the blue a lot of peeple becomes expert

It amazes me the amount of people on here who are experts at everything from terrorism to finance to science and everything in between!

Quite why Theresa May didn't use the fab forums to staff the cabinet is a travesty!"

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can do a lot less damage with a brick or baseball bat.

As for 10 minutes to get around. I'll give you a free ten minutes with my car or any car on the street and see if you can steal it.

Car theft did not drop due to thieves getting a conscience it was down to technology innovating and improving.

Necessity is the mother of invention. I'm sure smarter people than us could figure it out. "

Car theft is very differnt to disabling a simple radar/ultrasound/laser sensor.

For one youve got an alarm etc blaring if im disabling a sensor the cars parked ive taken it appart so i have access etc

My last bikr i did the resistor mod myself as i have a suitable one lying around but for about a quid on ebay you can buy a plug and play onr with the correct connector.

Same for these sensors.

Just need to check how the ecu sees they're there then replace with apropriate circuit/component (or just take sensor lengthen the wires and stick it facing striaght up into the sky so it never "sees" the obsticle).

Isis managed to build a thermal battery swapping out a sensor isn't a leap

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"You can do a lot less damage with a brick or baseball bat.

As for 10 minutes to get around. I'll give you a free ten minutes with my car or any car on the street and see if you can steal it.

Car theft did not drop due to thieves getting a conscience it was down to technology innovating and improving.

Necessity is the mother of invention. I'm sure smarter people than us could figure it out.

Car theft is very differnt to disabling a simple radar/ultrasound/laser sensor.

For one youve got an alarm etc blaring if im disabling a sensor the cars parked ive taken it appart so i have access etc

My last bikr i did the resistor mod myself as i have a suitable one lying around but for about a quid on ebay you can buy a plug and play onr with the correct connector.

Same for these sensors.

Isis managed to build a thermal battery swapping out a sensor isn't a leap"

Well we are not likely to agree anytime soon.

I'll leave it as agreeing to disagree.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

Oh out of the blue a lot of peeple becomes expert

It amazes me the amount of people on here who are experts at everything from terrorism to finance to science and everything in between!

Quite why Theresa May didn't use the fab forums to staff the cabinet is a travesty!

Surely the real source of amazement should be those who bemoan the 'expert' yet stay to read the comments of the 'experts'.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

If the world leaders haven't got a clue then I'm certain that a load of pervs on here won't have the answer

More pervs in the 'government' than on here

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hold a referendum. They bring people together

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To stop recruits from here I really think people need to be more tolerant towards Muslims. If they feel like they don't belong anywhere then it's easier for ISIS to brainwash them.

As for stopping ISIS completely I'm gonna go with something my mad auntie said, send a load of angry mothers there. That's her solution to everything, paedophiles, stick them in a room with a load of angry mothers. Terrorists, stick them in a room with a load of angry mothers. Dunno what you do to fire up these mothers into being angry or what sort of skills they have though.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?"

You can't.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's two viable solutions!

1 you just put up with it in the vain hope that they get tired of it sooner or later(n/Ireland).

2 you fight fire with fire and you actively target things they care about/mosques/family/housing... Completely strangle them out of existence(Israel).

Historically speaking neither have been super successful but they work a bit, when they say there's no easy solutions, they mean there's no easy solutions that sit with western morality!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we can't even stop our own armies, how we gonna stop anyone elses?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 16/07/16 15:13:52]

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is hard to change a culture that is based on the brutality of prophet muhammad, not until the people accepts the truth, you cant really do anything, as they don't teach that to them.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?"

Hope that on the whole the religion and people mature with time as happened with Christianity and the western nations.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

Hope that on the whole the religion and people mature with time as happened with Christianity and the western nations.

They're a 1000 years behind on that front so don't hold your breath

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's two viable solutions!

1 you just put up with it in the vain hope that they get tired of it sooner or later(n/Ireland).

2 you fight fire with fire and you actively target things they care about/mosques/family/housing... Completely strangle them out of existence(Israel).

Historically speaking neither have been super successful but they work a bit, when they say there's no easy solutions, they mean there's no easy solutions that sit with western morality!"

I mean like SERIOUSLY ??

Just lost faith in humanity !

After reading some of comments !

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

Hope that on the whole the religion and people mature with time as happened with Christianity and the western nations.

They're a 1000 years behind on that front so don't hold your breath"

Not remotley close to 1000 years.

Its only been about 150 years since we went to war with china to force them to let us sell heroin to thier population.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?"

In my humble opinion as a perv

IS is just the current flag that people are waving to commit these acts, a few years ago it was AQ and AQAP, Boko Haram, the Taliban etc. It is not a problem with Islam, that is simply an excuse in my opinion. The people that are willing to do these things are doing it because they feel that there is an injustice in the world. There are many countries in the world that are suffering from poverty and inequality. These are the factors that people are upset about.

Givr

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

Hope that on the whole the religion and people mature with time as happened with Christianity and the western nations.

They're a 1000 years behind on that front so don't hold your breath

Not remotley close to 1000 years.

Its only been about 150 years since we went to war with china to force them to let us sell heroin to thier population."

Do you think they'll remember that when we go for our trade negotiations?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr"

Opps...

Give a man a house to live in, a job to work at, food to eat, a family to love and the security to keep those things. Give these things to his neighbours and family as well, and the terrorism will end.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

Hope that on the whole the religion and people mature with time as happened with Christianity and the western nations.

They're a 1000 years behind on that front so don't hold your breath

Not remotley close to 1000 years.

Its only been about 150 years since we went to war with china to force them to let us sell heroin to thier population.

Do you think they'll remember that when we go for our trade negotiations? "

Yes, most countries remember their history better than we do.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

But they have all thise things here

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Eradicate religion would go a way to helping

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

....really?? I don't think it has anything to do with those.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

....really?? I don't think it has anything to do with those. "

Try reading the scientific evidence on the case matter instead of nonsense like "eradicate religion" then, professor collier's statistical analysis of civil war is a good starting point

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

....really?? I don't think it has anything to do with those.

Try reading the scientific evidence on the case matter instead of nonsense like "eradicate religion" then, professor collier's statistical analysis of civil war is a good starting point "

You don't think religion has anything to do with it.

And no i'll choose my own reading material thanks.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

....really?? I don't think it has anything to do with those.

Try reading the scientific evidence on the case matter instead of nonsense like "eradicate religion" then, professor collier's statistical analysis of civil war is a good starting point

You don't think religion has anything to do with it.

And no i'll choose my own reading material thanks. "

No I think we are human before we are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu etc. There are have been civil wars and conflicts around the world between the same religous groups, so not all conflict is as a result of religion. I think most conflicts are between the haves and the have nots. If one group thinks that the other group has more prosperity, more political power, more opportunites etc. That's when conflicts arise.

If the middle east didn't have so much poverty, lack of education, lack of jobs etc, do you think there would be as much terrorism?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

....really?? I don't think it has anything to do with those.

Try reading the scientific evidence on the case matter instead of nonsense like "eradicate religion" then, professor collier's statistical analysis of civil war is a good starting point

You don't think religion has anything to do with it.

And no i'll choose my own reading material thanks. "

Yeah bad things happen when you read the evidence before forming your opinion

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've said on here for ages... All lines are converging, there's a multi point triangulation of shit coming are way!.

Population growth, climate change, social inequality, fiscal inequality, the money system, debt, the internet, technology growth, energy and automation.... There all converging, they've been coming for years and we've done very little about it while the sun was shining!!.

My honest answer is... Your not going to cure today's problems with today's thinking!... Now we could radically change the way we live and the way the system works, however I think it far more likely you'll just change your morality on the issues sooner or later, sure you'll bitch and moan for a few years about the hellishness but you'll eventually relent

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's two viable solutions!

1 you just put up with it in the vain hope that they get tired of it sooner or later(n/Ireland).

2 you fight fire with fire and you actively target things they care about/mosques/family/housing... Completely strangle them out of existence(Israel).

Historically speaking neither have been super successful but they work a bit, when they say there's no easy solutions, they mean there's no easy solutions that sit with western morality!

I mean like SERIOUSLY ??

Just lost faith in humanity !

After reading some of comments ! "
.

What did you want to hear.... I'll tell you anything you want to hear, everything will be dandy, you'll grow old, get a big fat pension and retire at 50, we'll invite every refugee in the world over, we'll have a sing a long round a camp fire, life's wonderful, you can fuck your way through all the new concubines....

I used to be in politics!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've said on here for ages... All lines are converging, there's a multi point triangulation of shit coming are way!.

Fuck yeah! Let's make a hashtag about it to 'raise awareness' bro

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

More bombs?

Seems to be effective so far...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

Hope that on the whole the religion and people mature with time as happened with Christianity and the western nations.

They're a 1000 years behind on that front so don't hold your breath

Not remotley close to 1000 years.

Its only been about 150 years since we went to war with china to force them to let us sell heroin to thier population."

Whats that got to do with religion?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Get bojo to take it in person ..make it his first and last mission

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about getting all the top Imams to declare that death by suicide during an attack upon civilians, or committing mass murder of civilians becomes haram (forbidden under Islamic law), and that perpetrators are made apostate (equivalent to excommunication) and cannot enter heaven. I don't know much about ISIS, but I do know a fair bit about suicide. You either have to be very very low, or very very high on whatever your belief or mentality is. If these guys believe,or have the slightest doubt they won't get into heaven and collect all the bonus points, they may not do the crime in the first place.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Serious question, where do you think ISIS came from? Followed by, why are some many of their leaders ex-Baath party?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Serious question, where do you think ISIS came from? Followed by, why are some many of their leaders ex-Baath party? "

When people say 'serious question' its usually because they are about to preach their self righteous ramblings but I will give you the benefit of doubt.

ISIS, in one form or another, has been floating around for a decade. But the moronic decision to invade Iraq, remove Sadam Hussein, fuck off then stick our noses even further into middle eastern business gave them the opportunity and fuel to grow.

Or in short. ISIS is the bastard love child of Blair and Bush and they both men have a lot of blood on their hands.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Serious question, where do you think ISIS came from? Followed by, why are some many of their leaders ex-Baath party?

When people say 'serious question' its usually because they are about to preach their self righteous ramblings but I will give you the benefit of doubt.

Or in short. ISIS is the bastard love child of Blair and Bush and they both men have a lot of blood on their hands."

Well I agree with most of that. Although I'd go down the chain a bit from Bush and Blair. Anyway, ISIS has been around for a while but it didn't become anything of significance until the policy of debaathification left the world's fourth largest army unemployed. ISIS pays them with the spoils of war. Why is it so strange to believe that most of them wouldn't rather be doing legitimate jobs, as most were before the collapse of Iraq?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Serious question, where do you think ISIS came from? Followed by, why are some many of their leaders ex-Baath party?

When people say 'serious question' its usually because they are about to preach their self righteous ramblings but I will give you the benefit of doubt.

Or in short. ISIS is the bastard love child of Blair and Bush and they both men have a lot of blood on their hands.

To back up your reasoning; can you give me the percentage of ISIS made up by the old Iraq army?

While you are at it please confirm what units all the terrorists who have carried out attrocities in France over the last 18 months belonged to. That Jihadi John bloke spoke bloody good English for an Iraqi soldier too. Not to mention all the others that travelled to join from from all over Europe and elsewhere in the middle east.

What surprises me most is that it was Saddam's army that kept them in check before and a reformed version that is fighting against them and taking their country back slowly.

Unfortunately your point fails miserably especially if the answer to the first question isn't at least 95%.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all realise how awful they are

but I was wondering if anyone on here has any sensible ideas on how they could he stopped or stop people from Wanting to do them ?

In my humble opinion as a perv

Givr

Opps...

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

Serious question, where do you think ISIS came from? Followed by, why are some many of their leaders ex-Baath party?

When people say 'serious question' its usually because they are about to preach their self righteous ramblings but I will give you the benefit of doubt.

Or in short. ISIS is the bastard love child of Blair and Bush and they both men have a lot of blood on their hands.

To back up your reasoning; can you give me the percentage of ISIS made up by the old Iraq army?

What surprises me most is that it was Saddam's army that kept them in check before and a reformed version that is fighting against them and taking their country back slowly.

Unfortunately your point fails miserably especially if the answer to the first question isn't at least 95%.

It's widely reported that 45/80 of ISIS top commanders were ex-Baath party. Most of ISIS fighters ate mercenaries, jihadi jones types are rare.

What do you think Saddam's army did after they all got made redundant?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

But Syria isn't the only place fighting is it? What were the FARC fighting for in Columbia? How about the Shan or the Kachin or the Karen in Myanmar? Or the Sierra Leonean civil war?

Why do you think people fight? And what makes people stop fighting?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got a great idea. Why don't you pop over to Syria and sell that notion to isis. I'll keep an eye out for the video to see how well it goes

But Syria isn't the only place fighting is it? What were the FARC fighting for in Columbia? How about the Shan or the Kachin or the Karen in Myanmar? Or the Sierra Leonean civil war?

Why do you think people fight? And what makes people stop fighting?

The ira?

Wacco, MOVE etc

Is a poorly thought out idea.