FabSwingers.com forum: Why did it sell so well ........... ?

By *ranny-Crumpet OP Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Fifty shades of Grey ?

In your serious , most humble , highly informed opinion ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The first acceptable mucky book for women

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"Fifty shades of Grey ?

In your serious , most humble , highly informed opinion ?"

ok im not talking the movie..

im not talking about the BDSM/ not BDSM content either..

the trilogy was well written from a psychology angle of why a man may have preferences the way he does and his journey with another character who also saw something in him, that others didnt get to see..typical novel romance stuff.

imo it was curiosity to insight on how the other half might live and what happens to them ..it also fed into, the how a woman can change her man 'fantasy' through nurture and experiencing his 'world'..

my suggestion..whatever the absurdities..it hooked several fantasy and psychological elements and was well written from this view x

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybe"
the gor books are for that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?"
no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

barriers to making the slave girl /master totally credible..i was fascinated on how he dealt with these things..i felt it was important to explore these factors in myself, relating to the possibility or probability of a long term d/s relationship..did you need the gorean landscape, the protocol, the suppressed emotional expression of the male in order to make such relationships work..i would say they added to my internal journey x

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Money-backed (poorly) written-for-film Hollywood psyop aimed at young women above all where the main female character is depicted as little more than a teenager (implied by the way she talks and acts).

The point of the film is for young women to want men with money and power instead of men of redeeming qualities (men who actually work for a living, family men, heroes) and to be treated as garbage into the bargain.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

I dont know I haven't read it.. is it worth reading ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well.

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"I dont know I haven't read it.. is it worth reading ?

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only if you will read the whole trilogy .or for the fantasy of it all..dont be looking for detailed accuracy..but ideas..yeah they are there....if you dont read it the silent bits in the film where the psychology is taking place, really wont make much sense..it was a shit film..far shittier if you cant see the under plot happening though..knowing the layers made it bearable..

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

No idea Granny, the writing standard alone was awful. Some people have asked us our opinion on a few occasions and as always we steered them away from that and reccommended to them the translated original version of the Story of O. Waay, waay better, so much history, much more drama, the origins of the author alone, then the revelation, an absolutely must read. Having read that and seen the 70s film which is also very good (in context) it really is hard to appreciate to the 'Grey' book....Our opinions if course.

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. "
that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

Are you familiar with determinism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont know I haven't read it.. is it worth reading ?

only if you will read the whole trilogy .or for the fantasy of it all..dont be looking for detailed accuracy..but ideas..yeah they are there....if you dont read it the silent bits in the film where the psychology is taking place, really wont make much sense..it was a shit film..far shittier if you cant see the under plot happening though..knowing the layers made it bearable.."

Read the first two and really enjoy them but found the third lost it's way and seamed like a miss match of plots to try and fill it out a bit.

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

Are you familiar with determinism? "
yes its just another man made construct..to buy into or not..its not the choice that gives you freedom but the non defence of any such concept...the fluidity to choose is more freeing than the choice itself

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

A bit of titillation for middle aged women who probably hadnt talked about sex with their friends before.

And whose husbands might of gota bit of a surprise

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

The trilogy was poorly written, but easy to accept, beginner's guide to a teenager's view of BDSM. It helped that it's the fan fiction of Twilight, an equally poorly written novel.

The repetitive stalker and bordering on abusive behaviour of Edward and the other one was often misconstrued as romantic and then it became trendy as the first societally acceptable clitlit fiction. I don't understand why though (as it may well be apparent).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

Are you familiar with determinism? yes its just another man made construct..to buy into or not..its not the choice that gives you freedom but the non defence of any such concept...the fluidity to choose is more freeing than the choice itself

Indeed it is, it emporwers you somehow

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

Indeed it is, it emporwers you somehow "
because you are not suppressing consciousness of that which is, into a narrower world view..anything less than total unconcern, is a contraction of your potential...imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

Indeed it is, it emporwers you somehow because you are not suppressing consciousness of that which is, into a narrower world view..anything less than total unconcern, is a contraction of your potential...imo

It is a achievement to come up to that level though

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

It is a achievement to come up to that level though

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or was it total surrender to what always was in the first place? anything else can still be hosted as a folly of duality...there is no conflict in the quantum spectrum of experience..its all perfectly valid/ invaid as much fantasy as reality..its worth a good giggle at the set up though..keeps a twinkle in my eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

It is a achievement to come up to that level though

or was it total surrender to what always was in the first place? anything else can still be hosted as a folly of duality...there is no conflict in the quantum spectrum of experience..its all perfectly valid/ invaid as much fantasy as reality..its worth a good giggle at the set up though..keeps a twinkle in my eyes

Maybe but it takes so work to get there as well as realise that, without knowledge it isn't possible.

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I haven't read it or seem the film but I recon it was bought mainly by ladies who only have sex once a week withy he lights out

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"The inner desire of most women to be sexually submissive to men maybethe gor books are for that

Are they written by a woman though ?no they are written by a professor of psychology..who has written proper papers..

his take on gender is fascinating..i loved all the books but he cuts out certain sociological

Sounds like an interesting point of view especially if you are trying to understand how human mind work and is influenced by drives/desires/instincts/genders and society as well. that's my passion social anthropology, art of gender and sociological constructs and how to destroy them internally for freedom

It is a hell of achievemeny yet can you be sure than you haven't been influenced somehow though?

It is a achievement to come up to that level though

Maybe but it takes so work to get there as well as realise that, without knowledge it isn't possible.

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that is a journey that either grabs you, or it doesnt..it grabbed me and lived through me..teaching me its knowledge..it wasnt some judgemental lifestyle choice about other people..i really cant stand the label 'spiritual' its reality and the understanding of the principles of living the quantum potential in form..thats called 'life' x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm ashamed to say that I actually sat down one evening and watched in on sky movies.

Go to be the worst film I've ever seen. Acting was atrocious and it done nothing for me. That's 90mins of my life I won't get back.

A massive thumbs down for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read the first book out of curiosity when it first came out, I found it quite boring and a little disappointing as it didn't contain much sex that I had not heard of. I didn't understand why he lashed her backside with a belt at the end, I was told to read the other 2 books and I would understand, can't be bothered though.

I think to a certain extent it sold due to "sheep syndrome"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bit of titillation for middle aged women who probably hadnt talked about sex with their friends before.

And whose husbands might of gota bit of a surprise"

From the reaction of the women I know,and saw reading it on public transport,I'm going with this. They feel perverted reading top shelf stuff and this was acceptable and well publicised. There were already books similar that were not watered down for the more perverted women,but they weren't acceptable to sit next to Diary of a Wimpy Kid on the Asda book shelves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I read the first book out of curiosity when it first came out, I found it quite boring and a little disappointing as it didn't contain much sex that I had not heard of. I didn't understand why he lashed her backside with a belt at the end, I was told to read the other 2 books and I would understand, can't be bothered though.

I think to a certain extent it sold due to "sheep syndrome"

XXX XXXXXXX"

I read book 1 because my daughter gave it to me. Book 2 I really struggled to finish. Book 3 I got through a few pages and gave up. The sex content bored me,I read to find out what made him like he was,but lost interest during book 2.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fifty shades of Grey ?

In your serious , most humble , highly informed opinion ?"

Because most humans are actually "human sheep" - the marketing people have known it for decades - clever advertising/publicity/marketing and the "human sheep" go crazy for it. Bit like Prosecco - not a particularly amazing drink but the "human sheep" (who also aspire to keep in with the trendy crowd)ensure its success.

If you don't believe me just watch the next time some celebrity has a "different" haircut or tattoo - the "human sheep" follow suit - it's quite hilarious to observe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

constant hype of the thing made it so it became popular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still not read any of them or seen the film and very much doubt I will in the foreseeable future

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it was build on a fantasy that most women want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do enjoy erotica biggest sexual organ is the brain x

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

Gap in the market for damp knickers fiction.

Timing, marketing, tipping point. See anything that has become surprisingly successful.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

was originally written as a twilight fan book character names were changed and published online got picked up and championed by opera on her show and the rest is history

mummy porn that tapped into the frustrations & fantacys of "soccermoms"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because people in PR and advertising did a good job at selling a product lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hype? That's all really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fifty shades of Grey ?

In your serious , most humble , highly informed opinion ?"

Today's rapid word of mouth... Twitter aka Twatter and Facebook aka Fuckbook.

Build it and they will come/cum.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

God knows. I couldn't get past chapter 1 it's so badly written.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because people in PR and advertising did a good job at selling a product lol"

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By *isa 59Woman
over a year ago

Newcastle

I bought the trilogy on recommendation and really wished I hadn't. IMHO it is very poorly written, boring and full of drivel. I couldn't even finish the first book it was so painful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it's better than Take a Break mag. Oral is outlandish for some people so 50 shades is like hard porn in that context.

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By *urvyKattWoman
over a year ago

Dumfriesshire

I'm an avid reader, bought all 3 books to see what the fuss was about and couldn't finish the first book. It was awful, bloody boring and I rarely give up on a book. The charity shop got them x

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By *tephanie19631TV/TS
over a year ago

oxford

I prefered to act out my own scene.

And very enjoyable it was pity the cam wasn't working

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