FabSwingers.com forum: god

By *ertnbecky OP Couple
over a year ago

oldham

just wondered how many believe in god.i do not for many reasons the main ones being children harmed and born with health problems.more wars caused over religion than anything else in history.why did god want my left leg?if there was a god he or she would surely not let these things happen.though i do not knock anyone if you believe if thats what floats your boat.comments are welcome as is yes or no to the question.do you believe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im a none believer with the things youve said and more

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

I don't think many religious people would agree with swinging as it's contradictory to the Ten Commandments... therefore as only swingers are going to read this post, you're likely to get a biased response.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think many religious people would agree with swinging as it's contradictory to the Ten Commandments... therefore as only swingers are going to read this post, you're likely to get a biased response."

i didnt before so my _iews havent changed

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

When I was much, much younger I used to go to an American church... proper Happy Clappers. I only got into it because I fancied the tits off the vicar's wife.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have had some prayers in my life answered when i required help and guidance

Someone or something did guide me in my past and for that reason i believe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no opinion on God either way to be honest, its just one of them things i never think about

Maybe there is a God i have no idea lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do believe and have seen many prayers answered but have not gone to church now for about 6 months for various reasons.

Some questions can never be explained as to the why's, and I do struggle with that too, but have learnt to accept that things happen for a reason, some are not immediate as to why but having a faith and also hope helps me.

I know swinging is not acceptable but I don't feel guilty either. We are all sinners and I know that I will be in heaven one day, just that at this particular time in my life I am enjoying this lifestyle and will have to answer to God on judgement day as we all will have to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our parents made us.

Is how we behave their fault?

I believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im a selfish believer, i have never been to church unless its a wedding or i was up at midnight and attended midnight mass when i was a teenager with some friends on a military camp.

Since loosing my best friend Brett out in Helmand province i've become a selfish believer, i only talk to God when i want or need something, not on a daily basis. If i didn't believe to a certain extent then Brett wouldn't be in heaven along with any other people..

Things happen for a reason, its natures way. Least he has gained another angel xXx

btw, im not deeply religious in the slightest, just see it as a comfort that there is something after we all die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my childhood and teens i was a great believer

I was actually going ta enter the selection system for the ministry

That's when i started to ask the questions no one could answer satisfactory

I'm a complete none believer now xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I woke up this morning and thought to myself god thats hard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I woke up this morning and thought to myself god thats hard

tease

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I woke up this morning and thought to myself god thats hard

Yep and ive told ya before keep over ya own side xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I woke up this morning and thought to myself god thats hard

tease

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me never

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I believe in something, just not any organised religion's idea of a God.

Too many questions that cannot be answered to truly believe in one ideal of a God, too many questioned that cannot be answered to not believe in something.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Im not a believer although religion interests me and I think that if something like that gives people comfort and and strength then its a good thing

I do believe that if I was in a situation where my life was flashing before my eyes I would likely be praying to every god going though

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

God is an astronaut.

They made us from mixing their genes and earth monkey genes.

That's why babies heads don't come out of vaginas too easily.

We didn't evolve we were engineered about 10,000 years ago.

True story, seriously!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"God is an astronaut.

They made us from mixing their genes and earth monkey genes.

That's why babies heads don't come out of vaginas too easily.

We didn't evolve we were engineered about 10,000 years ago.

True story, seriously!

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I believe

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i believe in God, i am a Christian,i attend church....

and i can have the argument about why good things happen to bad ppl if you really want,but ppl rarely actually want to debate.

Oh and the ten commandments ban adultery,not swinging.The Jews of the old testament were polygamous,not monogamous.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

*swiftly exits thread*

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"*swiftly exits thread*"

Then why comment at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mumbo jumbo

no "god"

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"mumbo jumbo

no "god""

I believe in mumbo jumbo to!

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"*swiftly exits thread*

Then why comment at all

Cause I can!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I don't know if i believe in god as such... but i do believe we go somewhere else when we go... and i do believe that good things will end up happening to good people....

religion is going to mean different things to different people

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

No i dont believe in god. The way i lead my life does not follow what the bible says. I truelly believe that if your going to follow a religion then you should follow it and not adapt it to what suits you. Im many things but im not a hypocrit. Yes i have things i believe in and find comfort in that as one of my gentleman friends says my ideas are completely "crackpot" but its what im happy with, i dont chop and change my ideas to fit in with what im doing at the moment in time

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut."

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?"

Don't they all?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?

Don't they all?"

yes, but these ones are known for it, think they live in peru, bo something i think they are called. Its bugging me now

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?

Don't they all?

yes, but these ones are known for it, think they live in peru, bo something i think they are called. Its bugging me now"

The bonobo chimp....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?

Don't they all?

yes, but these ones are known for it, think they live in peru, bo something i think they are called. Its bugging me now

The bonobo chimp...."

Trust you to bloody know lol, thats saved me having to use my brain now lol

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?

Don't they all?

yes, but these ones are known for it, think they live in peru, bo something i think they are called. Its bugging me now

The bonobo chimp...."

Yes they are dirty little buggers. the only animal that has face to face genital sex apart from humans! They also kiss with tongues apparently although I haven't witnessed this on a personal level.

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By *andy muncherMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"I frequently call out "Oh God"...

usually followed by "Funky, will you please stop doing that in public"

All monkey's wank in public, its perfectly healthy tut.

what are those monkeys called that spend all day shagging?

Don't they all?"

i wonder were i seen that ass before twycross zoo i here there still looking monkey thats escaped they say beware he believes he human

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

they are the literal swingers of the monkey world, and female bonobos are bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

love this thread, from religion to fucking bi sexual monkeys

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"and i can have the argument about why good things happen to bad ppl if you really want,but ppl rarely actually want to debate"

I’m willing to read what you have to say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was raised by strict, deeply religious parents. My early years were filled with fear of a benevolent God striking me down if I sinned. It goes some way to explain why I was a 20 year old virgin when I married!

I don't think I believe in God, because the fear I had that made me such a good girl has long gone: if I thought there was a Heaven and Hell, with benevolent beings occupying both, the only thing I'd be doing on my knees is pray!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"and i can have the argument about why good things happen to bad ppl if you really want,but ppl rarely actually want to debate

I’m willing to read what you have to say

People assume that God rewards vitue,like some great father Christmas with a list of the naughty and nice children.Therefore they claim it is unfair that bad things happen to good people.They think that either God doesnt care,is cruel,or can't exist cos he would sort the world out.But fairness has nothing to do with it.

Now as another poster put the fact is we are all sinners.There is no perfect person,and we all fall short of the standard,that is a consequence of the fall,or of being human to put it another way.

Christians are redemmed through Christs death on the cross,believing he sacrificed himself for our sins.Nothing we do or do not do affects the fact we are

a)loved enough that he died for us b)sinners who cannot redeem ourselves.

In a nut shell,we are not punished or rewarded for our behaviour.God is not santa,we all got the ultimate reward in Christ.

Now why does God allow bad things to happen to nice people.

I am afraid i can give no better answer than Job,a book of the OT worth reading for anyone interested in what is one of the most difficult debates for Christians.God has a plan,if you have faith you believe that as a loving God his plan is right.Sorry ,but faith is the answer.A bit of an ontological arguement i know,but as someone who has that faith,it is hard to explain why it works .But it does.Trusting in God brings contentment even when things are going badly.

Although as my Master has said,perhaps all Christians are just subs looking for the ultimate Dom

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

That should read SOME people assume

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"People assume that God rewards vitue"

As an atheist I don’t assume anything

"the fact is we are all sinners."

Who has the right to label anyone a sinner

And what’s your definition of a sinner

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

IMO, religion serves two main purposes. Firstly, as a cover-up for human ignorance, ie "I don't know the answer, so I'll attribute it to/blame it on god. Secondly, as a means of population control, ie "If you do as we say, you'll be rewarded (heaven) if you don't, you'll be punished (hell). Many religious texts refer to the people as sheep led by a sheperd, which I believe is quite apt for those who have so little faith in themselves, they need to put their faith in someone or something imaginary.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"IMO, religion serves two main purposes. Firstly, as a cover-up for human ignorance, ie "I don't know the answer, so I'll attribute it to/blame it on god. Secondly, as a means of population control, ie "If you do as we say, you'll be rewarded (heaven) if you don't, you'll be punished (hell). Many religious texts refer to the people as sheep led by a sheperd, which I believe is quite apt for those who have so little faith in themselves, they need to put their faith in someone or something imaginary. "

Amen to that!

It is really no different to the people on FAB! People who are into religion are looking for that sense of belonging, which churches pass out in bucket loads.. There is quite a large following on here who are here for the swinging, but also here because they like being members of the FAB club. People on the forums perhaps are a bit deeper in than that, perhaps they need to have that feeling of belonging?

Seeing how religion treats ordinary people in the name of religion, I wonder people haven't twigged it yet and burned officials at the stake!

My parents are Salvation Army Officers and if we mention that to people they always say something like they always support them cos they do such good work! In reality, they are like everyone else.. Those at the top are using the "Soldiers" to gain them more and more money.

In my mind, religion is a con and the general populace fell for it!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"That should read SOME people assume"

Perhaps,but in the wdbthtgp debate their tend to be a set of common assumptions made by all wh are asking the question or they would not be asking the question.

Or to put it another way it is not a question atheists ask.

When framing the terms of any debate it is natural to try to work out the underlying assumptions people are coming to the table with.If you do not do that then their can be no common ground for debate.

It is not the same as saying "All women like big cocks" Which is a category error,and not a question for debate.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"People assume that God rewards vitue

As an atheist I don’t assume anything

the fact is we are all sinners.

Who has the right to label anyone a sinner

And what’s your definition of a sinner

See my previous answer,if you are an athiest then you just accept bad things happen to good people,there is no debate,so i do not need to try to work out the assumptions underlying your statement.

As for sin,sorry i did not realise you were perfect,well done.i didnt label anyone a sinner,we just are ,or as i said,we are all human,so falliable,weak and prone to make mistakes.

i have noticed that it tends to be non Christians who dislike being called imperfect,me i just accept it.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Being falliable,weak and prone to make mistakes does not make someone a sinner its a learning curve. Commiting murder, rape or something bad is a sin and makes you a sinner. Just because people dont believe in god or the bible teachings doesnt mean they have know knowledge of the subject. We have all believed in fairy tales at some time in our lives.

But i will say, if someone finds comfort in whatever then it is a good thing for that person doesnt mean anyone else has to agree with them. As i said before some of my ideas have been considered crackpot but i dont put mine up for open debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its all bollocks making people too scared to do their own thing in the past. People are more clued up now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i'm a non believer but i respect what other people think

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"i have noticed that it tends to be non Christians who dislike being called imperfect"

I have noticed the majority of Christians seem to be the the most selfish people one could meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Being falliable,weak and prone to make mistakes does not make someone a sinner its a learning curve. "

True... And the more time I can spend on the learning curve (hopefully) the less mistakes I should make. I am a "practising" Christian...

None of which makes me better or worse then anyone else... IMHO

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By *onConformistLikeUMan
over a year ago

Chorley

Prayers are never answered. Ever. Have you ever heard of an amputee preying their leg grows back -yes- has it ever worked? No. Will it ever work? No.

Positive (wishful) thinking is all Gods power amounts to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How conceited it is of man to elevate himself to such a high position in the universe that of all the trillions and trillions of galaxies there are out there that this is the only ball of rock that has life on it, and that we, an insignificant frail little lifeform scratching around on the surface, are the top most animal living on it, which makes us the top most animal in the universe - and thus have a special place reserved in 'heaven'.

Cobblers.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

I can’t remember the name of the comedian but nevertheless here’s his take on religion...

When I was a kid a wanted a new bike, so on the lead up to Christmas I prayed and prayed for a new bike but Christmas came and went and I didn’t get one. Then it was the lead up to my birthday, I still wanted a new bike so I prayed and prayed for a new bike but alas I never got one!

Then I got this religion lark sussed out... I went and stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

Sums up just about all religions, they demand impossible standards but then provide bucket loads of excuses. Then of course there are 100’s and 100’s of religions all insisting that theirs is the RIGHT one!

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By *imnher2Woman
over a year ago

watford

yes we both believe in god.. we brought up our kids to believe.. we go to church not every day or week but we go

and also as swingers we dont find it contradictory.. the ten commandments says about adultry not about swinging..

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Ok, getting away from swinging and religion a serious question to those that are christians. Do you really believe that god created adam and eve and it wasnt millions of years of evolution?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly which God?

Secondly do you mean "God" or "god"?

Former is the religious old man with strokey beard sat above us. - in which case no.

Latter, the entity, force, whatever that created the universe and everything within? - yes we all most believe in that as we appear to be here having this conversation!

I've done a lot of science and it is truly fascinating what we have learned of the universe so far and how patterns spontaneously come together. Plus the universe is a fundamentally weird place (and I mean really weird, not like wearing stockings and high heels at the weekend weird!).

For instance a hologram is a 3D encoding on a 2D surface, which is what you see on your bank card for instance. So you could encode a 3 dimensional universe onto the 2 dimensional surface of a black hole (well it's event horizon, but just imagine the surface of a beach ball).

Now the Plank constant is the smallest size any particle can be (think of it as the pixels on a computer screen, the smallest dot you can have on your computer screen). An experiment designed to measure gravity waves detected a weird noise spike which was larger than this Plank constant. So what I hear you say, (and wake up at the back!), well the weird thing is if you took a sphere ~13 billion years in size (the age of the universe and the edge of the observable universe) and chopped its surface up into Plank size "pixels", the resulting 3D hologram would have a resolution around this noise spike amount, weird eh?! - look up Holographic universe theory.

Anyhow I'm personally agnostic which basically means I believe there is "something", but that something is probably beyond our comprehension and very unlikely to be as religious texts describe "God". After all humans are based on logic and patterns (even if women don't seem to, they do

) so God either can make 2+2=5, in which case he is not logical, or he can only make 2+2=4 in which case he isn't "God". (read "Impossibility - The limits of science and the science of limits" for more on this!)

You have to remember religion was a fundamental requirement to get to society as we see it today. Imposing rule of law and civility and wot not require some form of common belief and buy in. It's also why in more religious societies not eating/drinking/doing certain things is more effective than secular societies because fear of prosecution from your peer is less worrying than from some supernatural being and loosing your sole. (That and chopping off extremities

)

I did hear something interesting a long time ago, in that as soon as religion started to get written down instead of passed on by word of mouth it became "fixed", where as before it would evolve with changing beliefs and knowledge. This lead to a lot more issues and fracturing of religious cults/groups

End of the day, if "God" or "god" gets you through the day and makes you a better person, good for you. If it makes you hate and deride those that don't, tut-tut. Side note religious people who get rather defensive/aggressive when their "God" is questioned is more to do with a central pillar of their whole life been brought into question, so it's understandable.

Anyhow I'm agnostic, I have a religion and faith of one which is mine and it changes everyday when I learn something new.

Also The flying spaghetti monster is my fav "God"

Ciao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the eyes of God our creator, sin is sin whether its a white lie or murder, hard to swallow but it is.

We are all born into sin because of Adam who disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden.

I found this really hard to take in as a new christian many years ago and questioned thru an Alpha Course how is a newborn baby a sinner? what has that baby done?... nothing, but because we are descendents of Adam and Eve we are all born sinners.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"In the eyes of God our creator, sin is sin whether its a white lie or murder, hard to swallow but it is.

We are all born into sin because of Adam who disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden.

Well if thats the case im glad im not a descendant of adam and eve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who do you think you are a descendant of then Diamond?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Who do you think you are a descendant of then Diamond?"

Evolution

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By *rs kemeaCouple
over a year ago

angus

Forgive my ignorance as I've never read all of the bible but if we are all descended from Adam and Eve, did their children (Cain, Abel, Seth and others) commit incest? If not, where did these extra people come from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am more spiritual than religious. If peeps want to believe then that is up to them. There has to be a something that happened that created everything. But i believe that if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Forgive my ignorance as I've never read all of the bible but if we are all descended from Adam and Eve, did their children (Cain, Abel, Seth and others) commit incest? If not, where did these extra people come from?"

The Devil made those ones....out of Play Doe

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"i'm a non believer but i respect what other people think

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thank you,it is nice some do,what gets me is i respect ppl of all and no religions,and us Christians get a bad press for being judgemental!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"In the eyes of God our creator, sin is sin whether its a white lie or murder, hard to swallow but it is.

We are all born into sin because of Adam who disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden.

Remember that it is people like diamond who decide for themselves what sin is that paint it as meaning yu murder or lie.Sin is simply that which separated us from God.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"i am more spiritual than religious. If peeps want to believe then that is up to them. There has to be a something that happened that created everything. But i believe that if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today."

See above,really u do sound interested,

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

No sorry Jane, that's a load of old tosh... I thought everyone knew that Plasticine came before Play Doe!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".... if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today."

Perhaps if there wasnt a god, there would be twice as much pain and suffering...

Just a thought...

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"No sorry Jane, that's a load of old tosh... I thought everyone knew that Plasticine came before Play Doe!"

That's according to your old Bible....I am quoting the Mishnah......

Play Doe was a favourite of King David

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

".... if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today.

Perhaps if there wasnt a god, there would be twice as much pain and suffering...

Just a thought..."

Or half as much?....

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

I am not a creationist ,and as there are two creation stories in the bible i have never understood which version the every word is literal folk adhere to.To me they explain the human condition,the turning away from God of humanity and the struggle we all go through to put God before our own desires.(This has been the commonly held _iew by most main stream Christians for quite a long time.The Bible contains history,parable and poetry)

However the bible does say that cain and Able took heir wives from the other tribes aroundThe early writers in common with many primative(urgh i hate that word but my minds on strike)saw themselves as "man" and everyone else as other.This is why so many peoples names for themselves from the Aboriginals of Australia to the Inuit is simply"The people"

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By *carletRomanceCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Kit doesn't. At all.

Kitty seems to, 'least she calls his name a lot in bed. Kit's, frankly, quite jealous.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

What number was 'thy shall not fuck neighbours wife while he fucks mine'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is why so many peoples names for themselves from the Aboriginals of Australia to the Inuit is simply"The people"

It's the same in Govan/ Ibrox - home of the Wee Arra Peepul.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually the Adam and Eve bit is quite interesting. Short of it is they ate from the tree of knowledge (the apple), and for that kicked out of the garden of Eden for sin etc.

However before that Adam and Eve had no knowledge of sin, evil etc, so for them to comprehend their act they needed to eat the apple. So a catch 22, which is not very nice of God eh? Could have give them a phone a friend or a CTRL-Z option!

You can actually interpret the tree of knowledge and the apple as actually been free will, before that "God" decided everything, afterwards "God" cannot intervene and it is up to us.

The Catholic church have no problem with evolution and you could say we came from a common ancestor (Adam and Eve), but they where unlikely to be white European types as depicted [recent] in religious imagery.

When Jehovah Witnesses visit me and say "God" is going to come down from Heaven to save us etc I retort "So 'God' is a sadist then?".

They look a bit shocked and say what am I on about crazy guy, to which I say: "So 'God' is waiting for a bit more suffering to happen, another disaster etc before getting off his ass?"

I would like to point out to religious people who keep looking to this no-where-to-be-seen "God" for saviour to open your eyes and really look at "God".

"God" is:

*Caring

*Compassionate

*Comes to our aid in time of need

*Is with us always

*... etc [you get the picture]

So "God" is actually a synonym for "society" or "people".

In an earthquake, Tsunami or any disaster it is *people* who pull others out of rubble, it is *people* who patch you up in hospital, it is *people* who show you kindness and compassion, it is *people* who you will remember on your deathbed.

We, all of us, are de-facto "God". And yes that means all the fire and brimstone bad stuff out of the old testament too.

|END TRANSMISSION|

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".... if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today.

Perhaps if there wasnt a god, there would be twice as much pain and suffering...

Just a thought...

Or half as much?....

Potayto Potarto

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

you called,how can i help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Enough of this, I'm off for a wank so God can go and kill some kittens:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_time_you_masturbate..._God_kills_a_kitten

[Must be true, it's on the internet and written down!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God. Adam and Eve. Jesus..... sweet so sweet.

Dinosaurs roamed the earth. The proof is there unlike any proof of God.

Dinosaurs predate people by 65 million years.

Who made dinoaurs ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who has more than a fair share of tragic events in my life, i think we should just beleive in life and hope we get as much of it as possible ...and im a beleiver of sorts but not religous ....

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I worship one god and only one god.. the greatest god of all...

Vivienne Westwood.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"As someone who has more than a fair share of tragic events in my life, i think we should just beleive in life and hope we get as much of it as possible ...and im a beleiver of sorts but not religous ...."

My _iews entirely ..I am not a believer in the church as an organisation nor any religion per se but I appreciate that different people refer to a power greater than themselves as God, Buddha or whatever they call this and I can totally respect this.

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over a year ago

".... if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today.

Perhaps if there wasnt a god, there would be twice as much pain and suffering...

Just a thought..."

cant be any more pain and suffering in the world than there is today... Tell that to Sians parents, or the woman in hospital that has just lost a baby, the Japanese vitims of the earthquake, tsunami, nuclear disaster.... for example.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

".... if there was a God there would not be half the pain and suffering in the world that there is today.

Perhaps if there wasnt a god, there would be twice as much pain and suffering...

Just a thought...

Its true, life is not fair sometimes and we get disillusioned when we find out yet again, that it is not.

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

Phew, it's taken me ages to read all posts made since the wee hours of this morning.

I stand corrected on the Ten Commandments referring to adultery not swinging. I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong, so I'll gladly hold my hands up on this one.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"God. Adam and Eve. Jesus..... sweet so sweet.

Dinosaurs roamed the earth. The proof is there unlike any proof of God.

Dinosaurs predate people by 65 million years.

Who made dinoaurs ?

Early Dinosaurs were made out of Play Doe...

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

"How conceited it is of man to elevate himself to such a high position in the universe that of all the trillions and trillions of galaxies there are out there that this is the only ball of rock that has life on it, and that we, an insignificant frail little lifeform scratching around on the surface, are the top most animal living on it, which makes us the top most animal in the universe - and thus have a special place reserved in 'heaven'.

Cobblers.

Have you ever heard Christopher Hitchens speak?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8q6lntNjw

His book, God is not Great, is on my Amazon wishlist.

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

Oh, I forgot to say... although I consider myself an atheist, I firmly believe that everyone has the right to believe whatever they want and I respect everyone's choice as to what to believe - including those whose opinions differ from mine.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

"God. Adam and Eve. Jesus..... sweet so sweet.

Dinosaurs roamed the earth. The proof is there unlike any proof of God.

Dinosaurs predate people by 65 million years.

Who made dinoaurs ?

Early Dinosaurs were made out of Play Doe...

No... it was Plasticine

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

which came first, plastercine or playdoe

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

"which came first, plastercine or playdoe"

Which one is male?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".... cant be any more pain and suffering in the world than there is today... Tell that to Sians parents, or the woman in hospital that has just lost a baby, the Japanese vitims of the earthquake, tsunami, nuclear disaster.... for example."

The earthquake, tsunami and nuclear disaster "could" have taken out the whole of Japan....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

find it hard to deny a "creative force" but naming it just causes problems and the dogma and religion that goes with it mostly war.

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By *ertnbecky OP Couple
over a year ago

oldham

"which came first, plastercine or playdoe"
it was putty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cobblers.

Have you ever heard Christopher Hitchens speak?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8q6lntNjw

His book, God is not Great, is on my Amazon wishlist."

Yep saw his series excellent xx

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"God. Adam and Eve. Jesus..... sweet so sweet.

Dinosaurs roamed the earth. The proof is there unlike any proof of God.

Dinosaurs predate people by 65 million years.

Who made dinoaurs ?

Early Dinosaurs were made out of Play Doe...

No... it was Plasticine

I think you will find dinosaurs didn't exist.

Anyone can dig up some old animal bones and arrange them creatively to form 'nightmarish giant monsters' Ooooohhhhh scaryyy!

Come on people get a life, you've been duped!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I too respect others with their belief

but in saying that there are some comments been made that it is supposed to be okay to swing etc. there are many quotes in the bible

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

this one is a beaut

Proverbs chapter 23 (TEV)

27 Prostitutes and immoral women are a deadly trap. 28 They wait for you like robbers and cause many men to be unfaithful

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"When I was much, much younger I used to go to an American church... proper Happy Clappers. I only got into it because I fancied the tits off the vicar's wife.

Love that!

I don't believe, it's so implausible and goes against what we know scientifically about the universe.

The way that most religion has been applied is also detrimental to the world, and it's amazing that we put up with it.

Happy to put non-religious on my Census this year, as it's about time the huge amount of public money that's given away as tax advantages to these groups would be far better spent on health treatments etc.

Religious groups have far too much pressure on our society, and the religious right, in the US, are just nut jobs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I too respect others with their belief

but in saying that there are some comments been made that it is supposed to be okay to swing etc. there are many quotes in the bible

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

this one is a beaut

Proverbs chapter 23 (TEV)

27 Prostitutes and immoral women are a deadly trap. 28 They wait for you like robbers and cause many men to be unfaithful

moral - use a different bed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proverbs chapter 23 (TEV)

27 Prostitutes and immoral women are a deadly trap. 28 They wait for you like robbers and cause many men to be unfaithful"

surprising the difference one person can make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn't there a lady vicar a little while ago who was found to be a bit of a swinger and became defrocked when the papers found out ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't there a lady vicar a little while ago who was found to be a bit of a swinger and became defrocked when the papers found out ?"

was she eating a wasp?

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

"God. Adam and Eve. Jesus..... sweet so sweet.

Dinosaurs roamed the earth. The proof is there unlike any proof of God.

Dinosaurs predate people by 65 million years.

Who made dinoaurs ?

Early Dinosaurs were made out of Play Doe...

No... it was Plasticine

I think you will find dinosaurs didn't exist.

Anyone can dig up some old animal bones and arrange them creatively to form 'nightmarish giant monsters' Ooooohhhhh scaryyy!

Come on people get a life, you've been duped!"

First there was Plasticine and then Play Doe but even before that there was 'Dino-Lego' of course millions of years ago people were much bigger, heres a picture of one I dug up earlier http://www.hows.org.uk/personal/hillfigs/mirror/cerne.htm

Some of the old dino-lego can still be found and is displayed in places like the Natural History Museum

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