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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families!" Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.  | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile. "Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb". You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families!" I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun?" There is no evidence that he had a gun or was brandishing it apart from a police statement. The video clearly shows that the man was restrained and was not brandishing a gun. The video clearly shows the police man pulling his gun and executing the dead man with five shots to the heart. | |||
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"After watching the two vids of what went on in usa im totally disgusted in what we saw ...... My man spent 15 years in the royal marines here and he genuinely got upset at these cowardly acts by finger trigger cops xx the war is coming over there enough with this shit x" the cops must have protocols like the yellow card but clearly they are permitted to ignore them. the problem is you have a nation built on and controlled by fear. thats why they have guns but now it is at a point of mass paranoia. one thing i would like to know, how many white deaths by cops this year. there must be a comparison. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families!" I think you'll find every country has cops that abuse their power...We're just lucky that it's only the minority of ours that are armed. | |||
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"After watching the two vids of what went on in usa im totally disgusted in what we saw ...... My man spent 15 years in the royal marines here and he genuinely got upset at these cowardly acts by finger trigger cops xx the war is coming over there enough with this shit x the cops must have protocols like the yellow card but clearly they are permitted to ignore them. the problem is you have a nation built on and controlled by fear. thats why they have guns but now it is at a point of mass paranoia. one thing i would like to know, how many white deaths by cops this year. there must be a comparison." I don't know the stats, but there's is more chance of an African American being shot than there is a Caucasian. But this may vary from state to state. | |||
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"After watching the two vids of what went on in usa im totally disgusted in what we saw ...... My man spent 15 years in the royal marines here and he genuinely got upset at these cowardly acts by finger trigger cops xx the war is coming over there enough with this shit x the cops must have protocols like the yellow card but clearly they are permitted to ignore them. the problem is you have a nation built on and controlled by fear. thats why they have guns but now it is at a point of mass paranoia. one thing i would like to know, how many white deaths by cops this year. there must be a comparison." I saw some numbers on the news yesterday... I think it was about 1100 people had been shot dead by the police 300 ish waere black people , I think it said it was about 30 % and the black population of the USA is about 16%.. 
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"After watching the two vids of what went on in usa im totally disgusted in what we saw ...... My man spent 15 years in the royal marines here and he genuinely got upset at these cowardly acts by finger trigger cops xx the war is coming over there enough with this shit x the cops must have protocols like the yellow card but clearly they are permitted to ignore them. the problem is you have a nation built on and controlled by fear. thats why they have guns but now it is at a point of mass paranoia. one thing i would like to know, how many white deaths by cops this year. there must be a comparison. I saw some numbers on the news yesterday... I think it was about 1100 people had been shot dead by the police 300 ish waere black people , I think it said it was about 30 % and the black population of the USA is about 16%..
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"After watching the two vids of what went on in usa im totally disgusted in what we saw ...... My man spent 15 years in the royal marines here and he genuinely got upset at these cowardly acts by finger trigger cops xx the war is coming over there enough with this shit x the cops must have protocols like the yellow card but clearly they are permitted to ignore them. the problem is you have a nation built on and controlled by fear. thats why they have guns but now it is at a point of mass paranoia. one thing i would like to know, how many white deaths by cops this year. there must be a comparison. I saw some numbers on the news yesterday... I think it was about 1100 people had been shot dead by the police 300 ish waere black people , I think it said it was about 30 % and the black population of the USA is about 16%..
I should say that was the number for 2015.."There are reports which state that minority killings are followed by greater outrage. Police kill white people too. Black police kill white people too. I can't get to the bottom of the stats but at present it's looking like there isn't a huge a difference as is being shouted. My only sources right now are online newpspapers , The Counted ( which seems skewed/incomplete ) | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun?" I watched a BBC Documentary relating to this issue few weeks back called Black Power: America's Armed Resistance. It's still on BBC IPlayer have a look http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03t9g3j/black-power-americas-armed-resistance | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? There is no evidence that he had a gun or was brandishing it apart from a police statement. The video clearly shows that the man was restrained and was not brandishing a gun. The video clearly shows the police man pulling his gun and executing the dead man with five shots to the heart. " and after the shooting, what did the police officer take from Sterling's right pocket!!! Phone calls were made from the public to the police prior to this that he had a gun and was brandishing it. We will wait for the full report, and I suspect you will be wrong. reports so far; According to the Advocate, Baton Rouge police officers Blaine Salamoni and Howie Lake responded to a call at a convenience store around 12:35 am on Tuesday after receiving an anonymous tip that a man in a red shirt who was selling CDs had pointed a gun at someone. Sterling, a 37-year-old black man, matched part of the description: He sold CDs, and he was wearing a red shirt. . Shop owner Abdullah Muflahi told the Advocate that Sterling was armed but was not holding his gun . Both officers are on administrative leave, per Baton Rouge Police Department policy, and an investigation, led by the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, is underway . As the Advocate reported, Sterling had a criminal record. But Sterling’s previous convictions aren’t what’s relevant to the shooting; it’s whether he was holding and trying to use a gun on the officers at the time he was shot. The legal standard for use of force requires officers to reasonably perceive a threat at the moment of use of force. lets see what the final report concludes, I suspect he would have been trying to reach for his gun and the police were right to shoot him. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families!" Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters! | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters!" That's a rather sweeping statement... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters!" Surely that makes you corrupt as Blair sent us into Iraq... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? I watched a BBC Documentary relating to this issue few weeks back called Black Power: America's Armed Resistance. It's still on BBC IPlayer have a look http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03t9g3j/black-power-americas-armed-resistance" I think I saw this.one was a dad who felt he had to arm himself just to go to the shops in his car with his kids! | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters!" Think you have hit the nail on the head,,,even if he wasn't holding a gun on display in front of officers they will twist it and say he was so their will be no chance for justice.corrupt system and corrupt officers with guns. | |||
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"anyone who has spent extended amounts of time in the USA knows their, absolute power, breeds absolute power culture.. no healthcare system, specifically mental health care is a great excuse for the 'authorities to act now and ask questions later.. the system is shocking..you are a criminal in waiting..dont have the money for a $15 dollar ticket, thats ok, you dont pay you are fined with another $250 for non payment..not being able to pay this off you are then under a warrant, still dont pay it off then you have a criminal record. its not all florida villas and housed communities over there..thats what you see for your disneyland holiday brochure..the average american has a small wooden structured house, peeling paintwork, in a yard surrounded by chain link fence, in which sits a rusty car and one barking dog. i have experienced the system and how it treats others over there including the fringe communities...no one should feel they are being watched as they walk down the street to go get a coffee, yet this is the surveillance atmosphere they live in. the last person you want to ask for help in america, is an american policeman..there is no trust and that no trust has been and is being bred into the culture for the corrupt systems benefit.. land of the free,,,my arse "I disagree, I travel the states regular, have done many road trips and regularly sky dive there. Simply love Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota and the small towns you travel through, have been stopped many times for speeding and have been politely advised to sit in the passenger seat and let the lady drive never had a major problem in 20 plus years | |||
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"anyone who has spent extended amounts of time in the USA knows their, absolute power, breeds absolute power culture.. no healthcare system, specifically mental health care is a great excuse for the 'authorities to act now and ask questions later.. the system is shocking..you are a criminal in waiting..dont have the money for a $15 dollar ticket, thats ok, you dont pay you are fined with another $250 for non payment..not being able to pay this off you are then under a warrant, still dont pay it off then you have a criminal record. its not all florida villas and housed communities over there..thats what you see for your disneyland holiday brochure..the average american has a small wooden structured house, peeling paintwork, in a yard surrounded by chain link fence, in which sits a rusty car and one barking dog. i have experienced the system and how it treats others over there including the fringe communities...no one should feel they are being watched as they walk down the street to go get a coffee, yet this is the surveillance atmosphere they live in. the last person you want to ask for help in america, is an american policeman..there is no trust and that no trust has been and is being bred into the culture for the corrupt systems benefit.. land of the free,,,my arse
I disagree, I travel the states regular, have done many road trips and regularly sky dive there.
Simply love Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota and the small towns you travel through, have been stopped many times for speeding and have been politely advised to sit in the passenger seat and let the lady drive
never had a major problem in 20 plus years"travelling as a tourist and as a couple totally different to living there in a fringe community in my experience x did you help build a community kitchen over there? buy some antiseptic cream for someone with an infected foot..see some ptsd vetaran freak ut over the banging of a drum..slashing someone elses artery points as a matter of reaction..you stick to your holidays..you'll have a great time xx | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them"I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls" I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line "the lets kill someone before they kill themselves mentality...what a load of bollocks | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun?" 1) open carry is legal in louisiana... 2) in the alton sterling case... the gun was in his pocket.... but go back to (1)... also... he was actually being held down by two policemen... and his hands were being held behind his back..... 3) also in the other case... he actually told them he had a concealed weapon in his pocket (again concealed carryis legal in minnesota) they told him to remove it... he went to comply, they shot him... when the govenor of minnesota has to balls to admit if it had been a white driver in that same situation, he'd still be alive, you know there is an issue.... 4) those two incidents were before what happened in dallas... louisana happened tuesday night... minnesota happened wednesday night... the reason we know about both of those is they had mobile phone cameras and the incidents were posted on social media... these incidents go back... tamir rice, eric garner, oscar grant, laquan mcdonald, sandra bland, and the list goes on and and... people would have a greater respect for police if they just admitted some of there own were bad.... most police people are brilliant I absolutely agree, but they never acknowledge the bad apples.... | |||
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"Holding someone down and shooting them in that position is indefensible. Spouting about previous brandishing of a gun does nobollogunt justify it. Pulling a gun from a dead man's pocket doesn't justify it. If the police have someone restrained then they should be cuffed and arrested. Once again, appalled to see some of the comments on here. "  | |||
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"Holding someone down and shooting them in that position is indefensible. Spouting about previous brandishing of a gun does nobollogunt justify it. Pulling a gun from a dead man's pocket doesn't justify it. If the police have someone restrained then they should be cuffed and arrested. Once again, appalled to see some of the comments on here. "Lord knows what nobollogunt is, my tablet invented it, but I may use it again. | |||
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"Holding someone down and shooting them in that position is indefensible. Spouting about previous brandishing of a gun does nobollogunt justify it. Pulling a gun from a dead man's pocket doesn't justify it. If the police have someone restrained then they should be cuffed and arrested. Once again, appalled to see some of the comments on here.
Lord knows what nobollogunt is, my tablet invented it, but I may use it again.
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line the lets kill someone before they kill themselves mentality...what a load of bollocks "Nope. Not like that at all. A lot of intelligence pointed to this kid having a bomb, he was on the train which had a fair few passengers on it. He was told to raise his hands, instead he reached for the backpack. One officer rushed him and held him with the backpack between them, he was shot in the head, the other officer then took the back pack and ran out of the tube station to give it to bomb disposal. That's ballsy | |||
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"What's corruption got to do with it? The problem is with gun ownership laws. There was footage of a civilian walking around Dallas with an M16 quite legally at or around the time the police were being murdered! " it is the one dallas PD were asking people to look for since he was initially mistaken as a suspect.... 1) it was an ar15 (same type used in the orlando shooting.. and totally legal) 2) texas is a state were open carry is fully legal..... 3) as soon as he know he was a potential suspect he handed it over to police.... and then actually helped then out afterwards by volunteer to help with traffic duty whilst the police were dealing with the actual shooter... | |||
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"Holding someone down and shooting them in that position is indefensible. Spouting about previous brandishing of a gun does nobollogunt justify it. Pulling a gun from a dead man's pocket doesn't justify it. If the police have someone restrained then they should be cuffed and arrested. Once again, appalled to see some of the comments on here.
Lord knows what nobollogunt is, my tablet invented it, but I may use it again.
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line the lets kill someone before they kill themselves mentality...what a load of bollocks
Nope. Not like that at all. A lot of intelligence pointed to this kid having a bomb, he was on the train which had a fair few passengers on it. He was told to raise his hands, instead he reached for the backpack. One officer rushed him and held him with the backpack between them, he was shot in the head, the other officer then took the back pack and ran out of the tube station to give it to bomb disposal. That's ballsy "nope..they are humans killing another human..end of..ps i hate institutionalized men who feel that an arrogant and entitled attitude is heroic..so i will stop the argument/ discussion here..justify the killing as you like..have a wonderful day and i hope to god you never go and live there and have to deal with their attitudes yourself against you or members of your community x | |||
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Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line "Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person? I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?  | |||
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"What's corruption got to do with it? The problem is with gun ownership laws. There was footage of a civilian walking around Dallas with an M16 quite legally at or around the time the police were being murdered! it is the one dallas PD were asking people to look for since he was initially mistaken as a suspect.... 1) it was an ar15 (same type used in the orlando shooting.. and totally legal) 2) texas is a state were open carry is fully legal..... 3) as soon as he know he was a potential suspect he handed it over to police.... and then actually helped then out afterwards by volunteer to help with traffic duty whilst the police were dealing with the actual shooter..." I was quite shocked the first time I went to Texas seeing guns so openly carried. It was even more shocking to see a sign at the reception desk of a restaurant asking patrons to 'holster their weapons' on the premises. | |||
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"anyone who has spent extended amounts of time in the USA knows their, absolute power, breeds absolute power culture.. no healthcare system, specifically mental health care is a great excuse for the 'authorities to act now and ask questions later.. the system is shocking..you are a criminal in waiting..dont have the money for a $15 dollar ticket, thats ok, you dont pay you are fined with another $250 for non payment..not being able to pay this off you are then under a warrant, still dont pay it off then you have a criminal record. its not all florida villas and housed communities over there..thats what you see for your disneyland holiday brochure..the average american has a small wooden structured house, peeling paintwork, in a yard surrounded by chain link fence, in which sits a rusty car and one barking dog. i have experienced the system and how it treats others over there including the fringe communities...no one should feel they are being watched as they walk down the street to go get a coffee, yet this is the surveillance atmosphere they live in. the last person you want to ask for help in america, is an american policeman..there is no trust and that no trust has been and is being bred into the culture for the corrupt systems benefit.. land of the free,,,my arse "Very sad people can't trust the police afterall they are supposed to serve and protect not murder.I do think when police ask you to do something you should be compliant but when u are being Co operative and they shoot for no reason its just abuse of power and bullying. | |||
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Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member? "If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is  | |||
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Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is "of course it depends on who's paying him to say what..right? oh and his brainwashed thought process and what he believes to be right and his own values and ethics...so its subjective..filled with same biases as mine | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line the lets kill someone before they kill themselves mentality...what a load of bollocks "I think the mentality was more let's stop this guy killing loads of innocent people... I'm sure you would be screaming the loudest if they had hesitated and a member of your family had been killed. It was a mistake but the police on the tube didn't do anything wrong... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is of course it depends on who's paying him to say what..right? oh and his brainwashed thought process and what he believes to be right and his own values and ethics...so its subjective..filled with same biases as mine "Considering how many people looked into every second of what happened on that fateful day, I don't think it's subjective... I think that even if you were given every detail of what happened on that day, you would say that it was falsified or vital evidence was with held from you... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is of course it depends on who's paying him to say what..right? oh and his brainwashed thought process and what he believes to be right and his own values and ethics...so its subjective..filled with same biases as mine
Considering how many people looked into every second of what happened on that fateful day, I don't think it's subjective...
I think that even if you were given every detail of what happened on that day, you would say that it was falsified or vital evidence was with held from you..."perception is the only reality and everyones reality and perceptions are veiled by their version of what it should look like and the scripts they live according to that reality construct..so its subjective..imo.. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters! Surely that makes you corrupt as Blair sent us into Iraq... Why on Earth does it make me corrupt! Blair was sucking up to his Yanky friend Bush - didn't give a jot about the evidence - one corrupt power trip. The lady posting on here is absolutely spot on - live there and see the real "American dream" - it's the most obnoxious system on planet Earth - based on money, money, money, greed and erm.... did I mention..... money." You said it's corrupt top to bottom, that means that it is corrupt at every level... We supported the USA, led by a leader voted in by a percentage of the country. So surely that means we are also corrupt from top to bottom as we had a corrupt leader... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is of course it depends on who's paying him to say what..right? oh and his brainwashed thought process and what he believes to be right and his own values and ethics...so its subjective..filled with same biases as mine
Considering how many people looked into every second of what happened on that fateful day, I don't think it's subjective...
I think that even if you were given every detail of what happened on that day, you would say that it was falsified or vital evidence was with held from you...perception is the only reality and everyones reality and perceptions are veiled by their version of what it should look like and the scripts they live according to that reality construct..so its subjective..imo.."The reason I don't think it's subjective is thither it was examined from both sides. The police and IPCC who are notoriously anti-police... The results are the nearest you will get to the truth. It can't be subjective from both sides... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters! Surely that makes you corrupt as Blair sent us into Iraq... Why on Earth does it make me corrupt! Blair was sucking up to his Yanky friend Bush - didn't give a jot about the evidence - one corrupt power trip. The lady posting on here is absolutely spot on - live there and see the real "American dream" - it's the most obnoxious system on planet Earth - based on money, money, money, greed and erm.... did I mention..... money. You said it's corrupt top to bottom, that means that it is corrupt at every level... We supported the USA, led by a leader voted in by a percentage of the country. So surely that means we are also corrupt from top to bottom as we had a corrupt leader..." the system id run by the same people..do your research..yes all the systems are now corrupt..defending one against the other is bullshit..cos its all bullshit..because absolute power breeds absolute power..here at least.. keep debate high in the spectrum of the symptoms and not the cause and then you can dominate..oh easily distracted humans you are so blind to the waters that run beneath these stories you are so not seeing the structure of how things work..but thats ok.,.,they dont want you to | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Haven't you sussed out yet - America (and those countries that aspire to be like it) is basically corrupt from top to bottom - its endemic in their culture. They will lie about anything and everything so long as it advances the American way and supremacy. Just look at Iraq for starters! Surely that makes you corrupt as Blair sent us into Iraq... Why on Earth does it make me corrupt! Blair was sucking up to his Yanky friend Bush - didn't give a jot about the evidence - one corrupt power trip. The lady posting on here is absolutely spot on - live there and see the real "American dream" - it's the most obnoxious system on planet Earth - based on money, money, money, greed and erm.... did I mention..... money. You said it's corrupt top to bottom, that means that it is corrupt at every level... We supported the USA, led by a leader voted in by a percentage of the country. So surely that means we are also corrupt from top to bottom as we had a corrupt leader..." I`m not getting dragged in any further - I don't think you really understand the point - and that's not being disrespectful honest - power corrupts the majority of human beings - very few can get in positions of power AND maintain integrity - only such people are truly great leaders. The USA is abominable - not the only place but let's stop believing "the American dream" please - surely you can see deeper than the hype and mass media etc. ? | |||
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"I don't believe in the American dream but people make sweeping statements and then don't like it if you point out that that statement then includes themselves or the people they are defending... If you say all police are corrupt, all politicians are corrupt, you are making sweeping statements. So if someone says all blacks are criminals and all Muslims are terrorists, they have used your argument and boundaries, leaving you unable to refute their allegations even though they are a complete fabrication..." no you are right i am saying all politicians and authority figures are corrupt..the legalese state was introduced after the common law, as a central money generating and storing facility..so all legalese is set up in this false system..therefore it is corrupt.. judges policy men (policemen)and bailiffs. are all still sworn in under common law and yet pertain to uphold legalese liabilities which is in itself unlawful.. you really need to look into the freedom movement..otherwise you are slaves to a falsely introduced and maintained system that benefits those who are corporation and monetarily based...that isn't natural law..that is slavery ..you are only a commodity in the legalese system, you are not a democratic sovereign being..your birth certificate is your permission to be used as a commodity for legalese purposes and the same system runs in america.. for that common law (law of the people) you have to look at moorish law...i rest my case.. if you want power i suggest you look at whom holds power over your life and if you so wish, claim it back..if not carry on and enjoy the reality you have come to be entrenched in...that's' how it is..no judgement..it just, 'is what it is'.. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is "Unless JCDM was guilty, the end result was an innocent man was killed, with no one taking responsibility for that. It takes bigger balls to subdue a suspect, than empty a magazine into him. #justsaying! | |||
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"I don't believe in the American dream but people make sweeping statements and then don't like it if you point out that that statement then includes themselves or the people they are defending... If you say all police are corrupt, all politicians are corrupt, you are making sweeping statements. So if someone says all blacks are criminals and all Muslims are terrorists, they have used your argument and boundaries, leaving you unable to refute their allegations even though they are a complete fabrication... no you are right i am saying all politicians and authority figures are corrupt..the legalese state was introduced after the common law, as a central money generating and storing facility..so all legalese is set up in this false system..therefore it is corrupt.. judges policy men (policemen)and bailiffs. are all still sworn in under common law and yet pertain to uphold legalese liabilities which is in itself unlawful.. you really need to look into the freedom movement..otherwise you are slaves to a falsely introduced and maintained system that benefits those who are corporation and monetarily based...that isn't natural law..that is slavery ..you are only a commodity in the legalese system, you are not a democratic sovereign being..your birth certificate is your permission to be used as a commodity for legalese purposes and the same system runs in america.. for that common law (law of the people) you have to look at moorish law...i rest my case.. if you want power i suggest you look at whom holds power over your life and if you so wish, claim it back..if not carry on and enjoy the reality you have come to be entrenched in...that's' how it is..no judgement..it just, 'is what it is'.." In theory you may be correct but in reality unless you live in a yurt and make your own clothes from plants and the wool you harvest from your sheep, you are as much a part of the system as everyone else... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
If I knew the facts of the situation like I do then I would find it hard to be as black and white as the fab army that seem to know everything. I mean my information only came from the investigating officer so not sure how legit it is
Unless JCDM was guilty, the end result was an innocent man was killed, with no one taking responsibility for that.
It takes bigger balls to subdue a suspect, than empty a magazine into him. #justsaying!
"Really, so if you were told that man over there has a bomb and is going to blow up that train full of innocent people, you would give him a hug and prey for the best... Interesting conversation with yourself, looking down as they pull your body parts out out of dead and dying women and children. #justsaying! | |||
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"I don't believe in the American dream but people make sweeping statements and then don't like it if you point out that that statement then includes themselves or the people they are defending... If you say all police are corrupt, all politicians are corrupt, you are making sweeping statements. So if someone says all blacks are criminals and all Muslims are terrorists, they have used your argument and boundaries, leaving you unable to refute their allegations even though they are a complete fabrication... no you are right i am saying all politicians and authority figures are corrupt..the legalese state was introduced after the common law, as a central money generating and storing facility..so all legalese is set up in this false system..therefore it is corrupt.. judges policy men (policemen)and bailiffs. are all still sworn in under common law and yet pertain to uphold legalese liabilities which is in itself unlawful.. you really need to look into the freedom movement..otherwise you are slaves to a falsely introduced and maintained system that benefits those who are corporation and monetarily based...that isn't natural law..that is slavery ..you are only a commodity in the legalese system, you are not a democratic sovereign being..your birth certificate is your permission to be used as a commodity for legalese purposes and the same system runs in america.. for that common law (law of the people) you have to look at moorish law...i rest my case.. if you want power i suggest you look at whom holds power over your life and if you so wish, claim it back..if not carry on and enjoy the reality you have come to be entrenched in...that's' how it is..no judgement..it just, 'is what it is'.. In theory you may be correct but in reality unless you live in a yurt and make your own clothes from plants and the wool you harvest from your sheep, you are as much a part of the system as everyone else..." thats about right..my lifestyle is my reality..i have no issues into dipping into the system, i know its there and using their rules for my own freedom..but at least i know what i am doing and have the choice and that makes me not a good sheep or a great feeder of the commodity mentality or system..i starve it..i don't readily feed it my attention or resources...or worse imo, ignorant or in denial, of its existence. | |||
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"I don't believe in the American dream but people make sweeping statements and then don't like it if you point out that that statement then includes themselves or the people they are defending... If you say all police are corrupt, all politicians are corrupt, you are making sweeping statements. So if someone says all blacks are criminals and all Muslims are terrorists, they have used your argument and boundaries, leaving you unable to refute their allegations even though they are a complete fabrication... no you are right i am saying all politicians and authority figures are corrupt..the legalese state was introduced after the common law, as a central money generating and storing facility..so all legalese is set up in this false system..therefore it is corrupt.. judges policy men (policemen)and bailiffs. are all still sworn in under common law and yet pertain to uphold legalese liabilities which is in itself unlawful.. you really need to look into the freedom movement..otherwise you are slaves to a falsely introduced and maintained system that benefits those who are corporation and monetarily based...that isn't natural law..that is slavery ..you are only a commodity in the legalese system, you are not a democratic sovereign being..your birth certificate is your permission to be used as a commodity for legalese purposes and the same system runs in america.. for that common law (law of the people) you have to look at moorish law...i rest my case.. if you want power i suggest you look at whom holds power over your life and if you so wish, claim it back..if not carry on and enjoy the reality you have come to be entrenched in...that's' how it is..no judgement..it just, 'is what it is'.. In theory you may be correct but in reality unless you live in a yurt and make your own clothes from plants and the wool you harvest from your sheep, you are as much a part of the system as everyone else... thats about right..my lifestyle is my reality..i have no issues into dipping into the system, i know its there and using their rules for my own freedom..but at least i know what i am doing and have the choice and that makes me not a good sheep or a great feeder of the commodity mentality or system..i starve it..i don't readily feed it my attention or resources...or worse imo, ignorant or in denial, of its existence. " Excuse my if I am being stupid but inot short... You take and use but hide behind a moral high ground? | |||
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"I don't believe in the American dream but people make sweeping statements and then don't like it if you point out that that statement then includes themselves or the people they are defending... If you say all police are corrupt, all politicians are corrupt, you are making sweeping statements. So if someone says all blacks are criminals and all Muslims are terrorists, they have used your argument and boundaries, leaving you unable to refute their allegations even though they are a complete fabrication... no you are right i am saying all politicians and authority figures are corrupt..the legalese state was introduced after the common law, as a central money generating and storing facility..so all legalese is set up in this false system..therefore it is corrupt.. judges policy men (policemen)and bailiffs. are all still sworn in under common law and yet pertain to uphold legalese liabilities which is in itself unlawful.. you really need to look into the freedom movement..otherwise you are slaves to a falsely introduced and maintained system that benefits those who are corporation and monetarily based...that isn't natural law..that is slavery ..you are only a commodity in the legalese system, you are not a democratic sovereign being..your birth certificate is your permission to be used as a commodity for legalese purposes and the same system runs in america.. for that common law (law of the people) you have to look at moorish law...i rest my case.. if you want power i suggest you look at whom holds power over your life and if you so wish, claim it back..if not carry on and enjoy the reality you have come to be entrenched in...that's' how it is..no judgement..it just, 'is what it is'.. In theory you may be correct but in reality unless you live in a yurt and make your own clothes from plants and the wool you harvest from your sheep, you are as much a part of the system as everyone else... thats about right..my lifestyle is my reality..i have no issues into dipping into the system, i know its there and using their rules for my own freedom..but at least i know what i am doing and have the choice and that makes me not a good sheep or a great feeder of the commodity mentality or system..i starve it..i don't readily feed it my attention or resources...or worse imo, ignorant or in denial, of its existence. Excuse my if I am being stupid but inot short... You take and use but hide behind a moral high ground?" not at all..i am not moral..so have no high ground..i merely offer information to those on here that will want to go look for themselves..if you dont, then thats fine too..no need to get defensive i am saying that knowledge is power and i made it my business to have sovereign power and knowledge myself..i wont lie..humans frustrate me..they arent curious enough, in my view...but no morality doesn't come into it...i am definitely amoral especially when it comes to dodging societal constructs and of course peer approval.. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? 1) open carry is legal in louisiana... 2) in the alton sterling case... the gun was in his pocket.... but go back to (1)... also... he was actually being held down by two policemen... and his hands were being held behind his back..... 3) also in the other case... he actually told them he had a concealed weapon in his pocket (again concealed carryis legal in minnesota) they told him to remove it... he went to comply, they shot him... when the govenor of minnesota has to balls to admit if it had been a white driver in that same situation, he'd still be alive, you know there is an issue.... 4) those two incidents were before what happened in dallas... louisana happened tuesday night... minnesota happened wednesday night... the reason we know about both of those is they had mobile phone cameras and the incidents were posted on social media... these incidents go back... tamir rice, eric garner, oscar grant, laquan mcdonald, sandra bland, and the list goes on and and... people would have a greater respect for police if they just admitted some of there own were bad.... most police people are brilliant I absolutely agree, but they never acknowledge the bad apples...." You cannot say the police involved were guilty until full investigations complete and reports issued, if they are guilty they will face court and law. The trouble is, far too many, yourself included want your own justice and we know what happens when this starts - it has already happened with 11 white officers shot. . You openly admit he had a gun, which we suspect from the video shot was in his right pocket we openly saw from the video the person who was shot, continued to struggle and fight when he was being restrained, no one can tell from that video of he was trying to go for the gun. If he was so innocent why was he struggling and putting up a fight. . A number of gun attacks involving police officers and civilians have occurred in other parts of the US in the aftermath of the deaths in Minnesota and Louisiana. ?Early on Saturday in Houston, police shot dead a man they said had pointed a gun at officers. Reports said he was black, and police say he was shot a number of times ?In Tennessee, a black army veteran killed a woman and injured three other people, including a police officer, as he opened fire on a motorway on Thursday morning. After his arrest, Lakeem Keon Scott told investigators he was troubled by police violence against African-Americans ?In Missouri on Friday, a police officer was shot from behind after he walked back to his patrol car to check the driving status of a black man who he had stopped. Antonio Taylor, 31, was later arrested but the motive for the shooting is unknown ?In Georgia on Friday, an officer was shot after he responded to a call from a man who said his car had been broken into. Again, the motive is unknown . It is about time people "Backed the Blue" and showed respect to the Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nU0L-iGbMA Back the Blue and quit carrying guns. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? 1) open carry is legal in louisiana... 2) in the alton sterling case... the gun was in his pocket.... but go back to (1)... also... he was actually being held down by two policemen... and his hands were being held behind his back..... 3) also in the other case... he actually told them he had a concealed weapon in his pocket (again concealed carryis legal in minnesota) they told him to remove it... he went to comply, they shot him... when the govenor of minnesota has to balls to admit if it had been a white driver in that same situation, he'd still be alive, you know there is an issue.... 4) those two incidents were before what happened in dallas... louisana happened tuesday night... minnesota happened wednesday night... the reason we know about both of those is they had mobile phone cameras and the incidents were posted on social media... these incidents go back... tamir rice, eric garner, oscar grant, laquan mcdonald, sandra bland, and the list goes on and and... people would have a greater respect for police if they just admitted some of there own were bad.... most police people are brilliant I absolutely agree, but they never acknowledge the bad apples.... You cannot say the police involved were guilty until full investigations complete and reports issued, if they are guilty they will face court and law. The trouble is, far too many, yourself included want your own justice and we know what happens when this starts - it has already happened with 11 white officers shot. . You openly admit he had a gun, which we suspect from the video shot was in his right pocket we openly saw from the video the person who was shot, continued to struggle and fight when he was being restrained, no one can tell from that video of he was trying to go for the gun. If he was so innocent why was he struggling and putting up a fight. . A number of gun attacks involving police officers and civilians have occurred in other parts of the US in the aftermath of the deaths in Minnesota and Louisiana. ?Early on Saturday in Houston, police shot dead a man they said had pointed a gun at officers. Reports said he was black, and police say he was shot a number of times ?In Tennessee, a black army veteran killed a woman and injured three other people, including a police officer, as he opened fire on a motorway on Thursday morning. After his arrest, Lakeem Keon Scott told investigators he was troubled by police violence against African-Americans ?In Missouri on Friday, a police officer was shot from behind after he walked back to his patrol car to check the driving status of a black man who he had stopped. Antonio Taylor, 31, was later arrested but the motive for the shooting is unknown ?In Georgia on Friday, an officer was shot after he responded to a call from a man who said his car had been broken into. Again, the motive is unknown . It is about time people "Backed the Blue" and showed respect to the Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nU0L-iGbMA Back the Blue and quit carrying guns." wont and shant! having had an native american husband i have no respect for the amerocan police, their methods or their'integrity'..and you cant make me either.. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member? "Weird claims of inside knowledge aside. Look at it this way given the identification (which was majorly bungled) and the shooting are seperate teams. You're an armed officer you're shown a man passing through a station and sitting on a train. He has a bomb capable of destroying a tube car and everyonr inside it. You're told to run across that station with your colleges into that tube car and hold him and shoot him in the head before he can move his thumb to the button to activate it. And hope to all hell that theres not a dead mans switch etc You think that's easy? | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? 1) open carry is legal in louisiana... 2) in the alton sterling case... the gun was in his pocket.... but go back to (1)... also... he was actually being held down by two policemen... and his hands were being held behind his back..... 3) also in the other case... he actually told them he had a concealed weapon in his pocket (again concealed carryis legal in minnesota) they told him to remove it... he went to comply, they shot him... when the govenor of minnesota has to balls to admit if it had been a white driver in that same situation, he'd still be alive, you know there is an issue.... 4) those two incidents were before what happened in dallas... louisana happened tuesday night... minnesota happened wednesday night... the reason we know about both of those is they had mobile phone cameras and the incidents were posted on social media... these incidents go back... tamir rice, eric garner, oscar grant, laquan mcdonald, sandra bland, and the list goes on and and... people would have a greater respect for police if they just admitted some of there own were bad.... most police people are brilliant I absolutely agree, but they never acknowledge the bad apples.... You cannot say the police involved were guilty until full investigations complete and reports issued, if they are guilty they will face court and law. The trouble is, far too many, yourself included want your own justice and we know what happens when this starts - it has already happened with 11 white officers shot. . You openly admit he had a gun, which we suspect from the video shot was in his right pocket we openly saw from the video the person who was shot, continued to struggle and fight when he was being restrained, no one can tell from that video of he was trying to go for the gun. If he was so innocent why was he struggling and putting up a fight. . A number of gun attacks involving police officers and civilians have occurred in other parts of the US in the aftermath of the deaths in Minnesota and Louisiana. ?Early on Saturday in Houston, police shot dead a man they said had pointed a gun at officers. Reports said he was black, and police say he was shot a number of times ?In Tennessee, a black army veteran killed a woman and injured three other people, including a police officer, as he opened fire on a motorway on Thursday morning. After his arrest, Lakeem Keon Scott told investigators he was troubled by police violence against African-Americans ?In Missouri on Friday, a police officer was shot from behind after he walked back to his patrol car to check the driving status of a black man who he had stopped. Antonio Taylor, 31, was later arrested but the motive for the shooting is unknown ?In Georgia on Friday, an officer was shot after he responded to a call from a man who said his car had been broken into. Again, the motive is unknown . It is about time people "Backed the Blue" and showed respect to the Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nU0L-iGbMA Back the Blue and quit carrying guns.wont and shant! having had an native american husband i have no respect for the amerocan police, their methods or their'integrity'..and you cant make me either.. "Bit bigoted to group them all as one isnt it? | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? 1) open carry is legal in louisiana... 2) in the alton sterling case... the gun was in his pocket.... but go back to (1)... also... he was actually being held down by two policemen... and his hands were being held behind his back..... 3) also in the other case... he actually told them he had a concealed weapon in his pocket (again concealed carryis legal in minnesota) they told him to remove it... he went to comply, they shot him... when the govenor of minnesota has to balls to admit if it had been a white driver in that same situation, he'd still be alive, you know there is an issue.... 4) those two incidents were before what happened in dallas... louisana happened tuesday night... minnesota happened wednesday night... the reason we know about both of those is they had mobile phone cameras and the incidents were posted on social media... these incidents go back... tamir rice, eric garner, oscar grant, laquan mcdonald, sandra bland, and the list goes on and and... people would have a greater respect for police if they just admitted some of there own were bad.... most police people are brilliant I absolutely agree, but they never acknowledge the bad apples.... You cannot say the police involved were guilty until full investigations complete and reports issued, if they are guilty they will face court and law. The trouble is, far too many, yourself included want your own justice and we know what happens when this starts - it has already happened with 11 white officers shot. . You openly admit he had a gun, which we suspect from the video shot was in his right pocket we openly saw from the video the person who was shot, continued to struggle and fight when he was being restrained, no one can tell from that video of he was trying to go for the gun. If he was so innocent why was he struggling and putting up a fight. . A number of gun attacks involving police officers and civilians have occurred in other parts of the US in the aftermath of the deaths in Minnesota and Louisiana. ?Early on Saturday in Houston, police shot dead a man they said had pointed a gun at officers. Reports said he was black, and police say he was shot a number of times ?In Tennessee, a black army veteran killed a woman and injured three other people, including a police officer, as he opened fire on a motorway on Thursday morning. After his arrest, Lakeem Keon Scott told investigators he was troubled by police violence against African-Americans ?In Missouri on Friday, a police officer was shot from behind after he walked back to his patrol car to check the driving status of a black man who he had stopped. Antonio Taylor, 31, was later arrested but the motive for the shooting is unknown ?In Georgia on Friday, an officer was shot after he responded to a call from a man who said his car had been broken into. Again, the motive is unknown . It is about time people "Backed the Blue" and showed respect to the Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nU0L-iGbMA Back the Blue and quit carrying guns.wont and shant! having had an native american husband i have no respect for the amerocan police, their methods or their'integrity'..and you cant make me either..
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! I take it you are referring partly to the death of Alton Sterling? The same Alton Sterling who was brandishing a gun to the point a member of the public called the police - 911. Was he carrying a gun - YES; was it loaded? - the investigation has still to release this as well as the type of gun, although they are normally carried loaded with safety on. 1; we do not know what took place at the incident, we do not know if Alton Sterling was trying to reach the gun he was reported to be brandishing earlier 2; An investigation on this incident as well as other shooting incidents are taking place, and no one can say whether this shooting or others were right or wrong until we know the outcome of the investigation. 3; If you carry a gun and do not obey the instructions of Police you need to realise you may be shot 4; Police in USA are on high alert right now due to an African American specifically targeting White Police Officers shooting 11 and killing 5. If you are carrying a gun at this time you should no exactly as instructed by police officers when confronted. I think OP; its best you wait until full investigations are completed and reports released before you accuse these Police officers. Would you rather a police officer on your side or a guy with a gun? 1) open carry is legal in louisiana... 2) in the alton sterling case... the gun was in his pocket.... but go back to (1)... also... he was actually being held down by two policemen... and his hands were being held behind his back..... 3) also in the other case... he actually told them he had a concealed weapon in his pocket (again concealed carryis legal in minnesota) they told him to remove it... he went to comply, they shot him... when the govenor of minnesota has to balls to admit if it had been a white driver in that same situation, he'd still be alive, you know there is an issue.... 4) those two incidents were before what happened in dallas... louisana happened tuesday night... minnesota happened wednesday night... the reason we know about both of those is they had mobile phone cameras and the incidents were posted on social media... these incidents go back... tamir rice, eric garner, oscar grant, laquan mcdonald, sandra bland, and the list goes on and and... people would have a greater respect for police if they just admitted some of there own were bad.... most police people are brilliant I absolutely agree, but they never acknowledge the bad apples.... You cannot say the police involved were guilty until full investigations complete and reports issued, if they are guilty they will face court and law. The trouble is, far too many, yourself included want your own justice and we know what happens when this starts - it has already happened with 11 white officers shot. . You openly admit he had a gun, which we suspect from the video shot was in his right pocket we openly saw from the video the person who was shot, continued to struggle and fight when he was being restrained, no one can tell from that video of he was trying to go for the gun. If he was so innocent why was he struggling and putting up a fight. . A number of gun attacks involving police officers and civilians have occurred in other parts of the US in the aftermath of the deaths in Minnesota and Louisiana. ?Early on Saturday in Houston, police shot dead a man they said had pointed a gun at officers. Reports said he was black, and police say he was shot a number of times ?In Tennessee, a black army veteran killed a woman and injured three other people, including a police officer, as he opened fire on a motorway on Thursday morning. After his arrest, Lakeem Keon Scott told investigators he was troubled by police violence against African-Americans ?In Missouri on Friday, a police officer was shot from behind after he walked back to his patrol car to check the driving status of a black man who he had stopped. Antonio Taylor, 31, was later arrested but the motive for the shooting is unknown ?In Georgia on Friday, an officer was shot after he responded to a call from a man who said his car had been broken into. Again, the motive is unknown . It is about time people "Backed the Blue" and showed respect to the Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nU0L-iGbMA Back the Blue and quit carrying guns.wont and shant! having had an native american husband i have no respect for the amerocan police, their methods or their'integrity'..and you cant make me either..
Bit bigoted to group them all as one isnt it? yeah totally..i own it..ive experienced their bigotry first hand many times all over the US...its my experience. i lived there i saw it in the areas and communities i was in..and?"Nothing, glad you can accept your a biased bigot on the subject. Well done shows a decent level of self awareness | |||
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" 1;wont and shant! having had an native american husband i have no respect for the amerocan police, their methods or their'integrity'..and you cant make me either.. 2; i own it..ive experienced their bigotry first hand many times all over the US...its my experience. i lived there i saw it in the areas and communities i was in..and? 1; You already have and you will; you now live in the UK so you will abide by UK law and that means you cannot carry a gun 2; You say you experience bigotry all over the U.S., where did you stay, and for how long? give examples remember you need to show and earn respect, I suspect from your posts you do neither" im not after your respect..i couldnt care less what you think of me..or what you do about it..as for conforming to justifying my experience because otherwise you dont believe me..why should i?..you're full of the game and i just wont play..im not under your game controls..hahahaha very funny though..nice try | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
Weird claims of inside knowledge aside.
Look at it this way given the identification (which was majorly bungled) and the shooting are seperate teams.
You're an armed officer you're shown a man passing through a station and sitting on a train.
He has a bomb capable of destroying a tube car and everyonr inside it.
You're told to run across that station with your colleges into that tube car and hold him and shoot him in the head before he can move his thumb to the button to activate it.
And hope to all hell that theres not a dead mans switch etc
You think that's easy?
"That's the job you've signed up for. Being and armed officer is voluntary, and you know the dangers. 'Some' sign up for the adrenaline rush of the danger. The intel was wrong, and many others were put in danger because of incompetence. Had there been a bomb and it had gone off, we would have questioned why he was ever allowed to get onto a tube carriage if the police knew he had a bomb. If the intel was correct, he would have been taken out much earlier, or the factory would have been raided and the right people would have been caught or killed. Instead of questioning that, we're on a forum talking about how much bollocks it takes. So ok, yeah... big balls. | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
Weird claims of inside knowledge aside.
Look at it this way given the identification (which was majorly bungled) and the shooting are seperate teams.
You're an armed officer you're shown a man passing through a station and sitting on a train.
He has a bomb capable of destroying a tube car and everyonr inside it.
You're told to run across that station with your colleges into that tube car and hold him and shoot him in the head before he can move his thumb to the button to activate it.
And hope to all hell that theres not a dead mans switch etc
You think that's easy?
That's the job you've signed up for.
Being and armed officer is voluntary, and you know the dangers. 'Some' sign up for the adrenaline rush of the danger.
The intel was wrong, and many others were put in danger because of incompetence. Had there been a bomb and it had gone off, we would have questioned why he was ever allowed to get onto a tube carriage if the police knew he had a bomb.
If the intel was correct, he would have been taken out much earlier, or the factory would have been raided and the right people would have been caught or killed.
Instead of questioning that, we're on a forum talking about how much bollocks it takes. So ok, yeah... big balls.
"I think that is a very nieve point of view but it's alway easy to criticise people doing a difficult or dangerous when you are sitting behind a keyboard... It is a job that needs doing, thankfully there are people who stand up and do jobs like that... | |||
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"So I'm sure you are all aware of the two murders that took place recently and it saddens me that these cops are abusing their power like this.when will these killings stop?These cops need to be held accountable and why is evidence always tampered with?No justice here for the poor victims and their families! Ah yes! Its not like the police here could get away with shooting an unarmed coloured man 8 times in the chest for jumping an underground turnstile.
Slight differnce given one was mistakenly identified by an intelligence team the people pulling the trigger had no information beyond "that's him, hes got a bomb".
You gotta admit theres a certain level of balls required to run up and point blank head shot somone that as far as you know has a suicide bomb on them
I know one of the senior officers on that case. He's seen the footage from the tube plus knows every detail of what happened. He obviously can't divulge too much however he said "them coppers had massive fucking balls"
I know more about it than I wish to repeat but fuck it was an a perfect display of putting your balls on the line
Massive fucking balls for killing an innocent person?
I wonder if you would feel that way if that person had been your child or another close family member?
Weird claims of inside knowledge aside.
Look at it this way given the identification (which was majorly bungled) and the shooting are seperate teams.
You're an armed officer you're shown a man passing through a station and sitting on a train.
He has a bomb capable of destroying a tube car and everyonr inside it.
You're told to run across that station with your colleges into that tube car and hold him and shoot him in the head before he can move his thumb to the button to activate it.
And hope to all hell that theres not a dead mans switch etc
You think that's easy?
That's the job you've signed up for.
Being and armed officer is voluntary, and you know the dangers. 'Some' sign up for the adrenaline rush of the danger.
The intel was wrong, and many others were put in danger because of incompetence. Had there been a bomb and it had gone off, we would have questioned why he was ever allowed to get onto a tube carriage if the police knew he had a bomb.
If the intel was correct, he would have been taken out much earlier, or the factory would have been raided and the right people would have been caught or killed.
Instead of questioning that, we're on a forum talking about how much bollocks it takes. So ok, yeah... big balls.
I think that is a very nieve point of view but it's alway easy to criticise people doing a difficult or dangerous when you are sitting behind a keyboard...
It is a job that needs doing, thankfully there are people who stand up and do jobs like that..."I'm far from 'naive' and I'm not criticising the people doing the job. I respect them for the job that they do, but I'm also aware that the job carries responsibilities, and therefore questions have to be answered/addressed when something goes wrong. We live in a policed state, not a police state! With regards to my earlier statement, unless you've read the inquest in full (which I doubt you have), you'll find you are the one who is naive. | |||
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"I don't see how I am being nieve. The armed officers did a good job. Tragically they were mis-informed but they did a good job. As far as they were concerned he had a bomb and was going to kill innocent people. As regards to raiding bomb factories and early arrests, that is a lot more complicated than it sounds." Look up the meaning of the word. And it's spelt 'naive'! Then read the inquest instead of hearsay. | |||
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"I don't see how I am being nieve. The armed officers did a good job. Tragically they were mis-informed but they did a good job. As far as they were concerned he had a bomb and was going to kill innocent people. As regards to raiding bomb factories and early arrests, that is a lot more complicated than it sounds. Look up the meaning of the word. And it's spelt 'naive'! Then read the inquest instead of hearsay." I do apologise about my spelling, as someone who is dyslexic, I often use spell check but sometimes it fails me. I can assure you that I have far more than hearsay. If the guys at the scene had any doubts about the validity of the information they would not have been able to defend their actions. | |||
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