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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIA

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIA"
dont .clean it and blank it off lots of walk throughs on line will drive better and use less fuel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIAdont .clean it and blank it off lots of walk throughs on line will drive better and use less fuel "

This

Remove the DPF and remap whilst your at it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thanks for replying. I've been advised it needs replacing. Should I get a second opinion then?

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

The second opinion will be the same as it am easy moneymaker for them cost of the part + labour .when they can be easily cleaned with a little effort and blanked off will change your cars performance & economy

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The second opinion will be the same as it am easy moneymaker for them cost of the part + labour .when they can be easily cleaned with a little effort and blanked off will change your cars performance & economy "

OK so I know nothing about cars. I've got a fault light come up on the dash and that's what they've recommended. Should I say I only want it cleaned then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The second opinion will be the same as it am easy moneymaker for them cost of the part + labour .when they can be easily cleaned with a little effort and blanked off will change your cars performance & economy "

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough


"How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIAdont .clean it and blank it off lots of walk throughs on line will drive better and use less fuel "

It's a messy job cleaning it but that's what wearing old clothes are for... but very satisfying when done. I cleaned the one on my X-Type 2.0D and had it blanked and remapped. No black smoke unless I'm giving it an "Italian tune-up"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIAdont .clean it and blank it off lots of walk throughs on line will drive better and use less fuel

It's a messy job cleaning it but that's what wearing old clothes are for... but very satisfying when done. I cleaned the one on my X-Type 2.0D and had it blanked and remapped. No black smoke unless I'm giving it an "Italian tune-up" "

Without being sexist I'm female and haven't a clue!

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By *hy-totCouple
over a year ago

Skellow


"How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIAdont .clean it and blank it off lots of walk throughs on line will drive better and use less fuel

It's a messy job cleaning it but that's what wearing old clothes are for... but very satisfying when done. I cleaned the one on my X-Type 2.0D and had it blanked and remapped. No black smoke unless I'm giving it an "Italian tune-up"

Without being sexist I'm female and haven't a clue!

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regards the EGR valve this stands for exhaust gas recirculate it can be removed and cleaned with brake cleaner how ever cheaper option put in a bucket off cheap coca cola leave over night then rince off with fuel ie diesel or petrol then replace problem solved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some egr valves are electrically operated. If it's an internal electrical fault then cleaning it won't help

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?"

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's blocked up.....isn't that the same as blanking it off...?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol"

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough


"If it's blocked up.....isn't that the same as blanking it off...?"

Not quite but the advice I was given was that if you clean the egr and inspect the jubilee clips for the intercooler hose for corrosion and splitting you are eliminating any possible problems before going down the route of an expenaive replacement. If it is more modern electronic controlled egr then replacement is probably likely. Mine is an older vacuum one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light"

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On an entirely separate note OP, that's a spectacular profile pic!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?"

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"On an entirely separate note OP, that's a spectacular profile pic!"

Lol why thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys."

No they don't! There's something you could try. No guarantees though. Go to halfords, buy a bottle of millers diesel treatment. Wearing a glove, put all of it into your tank. Fill with shell super diesel.Drive 200 motorway Miles. In 4th gear. (or 5th if you have 6 gears).

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys."

If you can give it a blast for a good half hour along a local dual carriageway / motorway that could give your dpf a chance to recirculate. You are correct, dielels don't like short joutnies were they can't clear the crap out of their lungs

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys.

No they don't! There's something you could try. No guarantees though. Go to halfords, buy a bottle of millers diesel treatment. Wearing a glove, put all of it into your tank. Fill with shell super diesel.Drive 200 motorway Miles. In 4th gear. (or 5th if you have 6 gears)."

OK it might help me if I elaborate a little. I took it to garage because the engine failure light came on. It has trouble starting from cold and they've diagnosed the egr valve needs replacing, he said it was linked to an issue with the air flow meter.

Does this sound legit?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys.

If you can give it a blast for a good half hour along a local dual carriageway / motorway that could give your dpf a chance to recirculate. You are correct, dielels don't like short joutnies were they can't clear the crap out of their lungs"

I'll be doing a 300 mile trip next weekend so hopefully that might help

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys.

No they don't! There's something you could try. No guarantees though. Go to halfords, buy a bottle of millers diesel treatment. Wearing a glove, put all of it into your tank. Fill with shell super diesel.Drive 200 motorway Miles. In 4th gear. (or 5th if you have 6 gears).

OK it might help me if I elaborate a little. I took it to garage because the engine failure light came on. It has trouble starting from cold and they've diagnosed the egr valve needs replacing, he said it was linked to an issue with the air flow meter.

Does this sound legit?

"
Hi. My warning light came on and the garage told me that it was quite an exoensive job to replace . That said they would just disconnect the warning light . To date I have have had no problems .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why clean it if you're blanking it off?

That was the advice given on one of the Jaguar forums as not every type of EGR valve will accept a full blank, some need one with a hole in it or the orange EML lights up. Plus it is a rite of passage into the dirty hand brigade lol

This is the fault I have - engine failure orange light

Do you ever do long fast journeys?

If I'm honest no. I know diesels don't like short journeys.

No they don't! There's something you could try. No guarantees though. Go to halfords, buy a bottle of millers diesel treatment. Wearing a glove, put all of it into your tank. Fill with shell super diesel.Drive 200 motorway Miles. In 4th gear. (or 5th if you have 6 gears).

OK it might help me if I elaborate a little. I took it to garage because the engine failure light came on. It has trouble starting from cold and they've diagnosed the egr valve needs replacing, he said it was linked to an issue with the air flow meter.

Does this sound legit?

Hi. My warning light came on and the garage told me that it was quite an exoensive job to replace . That said they would just disconnect the warning light . To date I have have had no problems . "

Hi pat. But that doesn't solve my problem of it not starting from cold. I'd rather get it fixed properly, but I don't want to be ripped off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'll prob find the egr valve fairly bloocked with a horrible oily black sludge reducing airflow which might be contributing to your start issue.

Sorry not overly familiar with fiats.

A decent clean out can work wonders.

Many egr deletes are available if you wish to persue that route x

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

See how it is after the 300 mile run.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You'll prob find the egr valve fairly bloocked with a horrible oily black sludge reducing airflow which might be contributing to your start issue.

Sorry not overly familiar with fiats.

A decent clean out can work wonders.

Many egr deletes are available if you wish to persue that route x"

It does smoke like a trooper from cold so yes!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You'll prob find the egr valve fairly bloocked with a horrible oily black sludge reducing airflow which might be contributing to your start issue.

Sorry not overly familiar with fiats.

A decent clean out can work wonders.

Many egr deletes are available if you wish to persue that route x"

Egr deletes? What's that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You'll prob find the egr valve fairly bloocked with a horrible oily black sludge reducing airflow which might be contributing to your start issue.

Sorry not overly familiar with fiats.

A decent clean out can work wonders.

Many egr deletes are available if you wish to persue that route x

Egr deletes? What's that?"

Bits you fit instead of the egr valve.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"You'll prob find the egr valve fairly bloocked with a horrible oily black sludge reducing airflow which might be contributing to your start issue.

Sorry not overly familiar with fiats.

A decent clean out can work wonders.

Many egr deletes are available if you wish to persue that route x

Egr deletes? What's that?"
its a reprogramme of your ecu basicley deletes the input from your ecu sensor to the ecu stops it sending warnings etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How much should I expect to pay to have this replaced at the garage? Fiat multijet. Registered 2006.

TIAdont .clean it and blank it off lots of walk throughs on line will drive better and use less fuel

It's a messy job cleaning it but that's what wearing old clothes are for... but very satisfying when done. I cleaned the one on my X-Type 2.0D and had it blanked and remapped. No black smoke unless I'm giving it an "Italian tune-up"

Without being sexist I'm female and haven't a clue!

"

You remove it then you might have emission issues at MOT

Half the work is removing it so might as well just replace it.

I am sure that remapping it will ba almost as expensive as the part anyways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously guys, this woman has asked a pretty specific question and no one has even come close to answering it for her.

Replacing an egr can vary from car to car, some can be removed in 10 minutes, others takes hours. A reasonable garage should be charging between £50-75 per hour labour, so as you can see it's difficult to estimate a cost unless give actually done the job before.

I'd Google egr replacement times and this should point you in a rough direction, and eBay for a rough cost of a new one.

If it's a fairly straightforward job id expect around £200-300 but this is a loose estimate!

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By *illyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Interesting read on diffence of opinions.

Everyone's put about it being blocked. As a rule they normally but not always stick open due to carbon build up. This allows the exhaust gas to recirculate around the engine causing ...poor starting ..power loss and sometimes just a warning light.

It affects the air mass meter as it allows gas to pass through the egr unmetered.which means the air mass has an incorrect reading. Again as others have said clean it or blank it off but no point doing both. If you blank it it will still show a fault as it's not working as it was designed to do.

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By *illyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Good answer.. Yes cost depends on vehicle.. And garage ..make some phone calls and get some quotes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know about the fiat but on my VW transporter the EGR is part of the engine cooling system.....gases are expelled at 1600 deg and recirculated at 1200 deg... If you intend to keep the vehicle, don't blank it off you don't know what damage you are doing by not cooling the engine properly...

I know lots of people do blank them and they will tell you they have no problems but it's there for a reason and not just one as I have shown above....all it takes is for you to be unlucky and it maybe a new engine you are needing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you do get a new egr valve, you're looking at around £250-£300 for a genuine part, or around £100 for an aftermarket one. Plus labour and vat

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By *hite SnakeMan
over a year ago

leeds

The egr valve is there for emissions control. The emissions it controls (NOx) are not part of the mot so blanking it will not cause a mot failure. It is not part of the cooling system the gas temperature does lower going through it but only as a result of the process not as a cooling measure.

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By *5happycoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tooting / dept 23 France

just wanted to thank you all, have learned something new today

x

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By *rbusyhandsMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

This is what always happens it seems when asking car questions everyone knowledgeable suggests doing it yourself as its so easy. Why doesn't a kind hearted soul offer to do it for her if its soo easy. And if its not easy then why suggest it without checking how comfortable/handy she is first.

If not keep the advice to what the other guy said.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I appreciate all the responses I've had. Will be ringing various garages monday to get several quotes

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Without being sexist I'm female and haven't a clue!

"

But there are clues now, speak to a mechanic like you know what's going on

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Reading all the replies it's not clear if a faulty egr valve would cause the car to struggle to start when cold. Is this correct?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Reading all the replies it's not clear if a faulty egr valve would cause the car to struggle to start when cold. Is this correct?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have experience of non starting due to faulty/broken egr valves

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have experience of non starting due to faulty/broken egr valves"

Great, thank you!

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Reading all the replies it's not clear if a faulty egr valve would cause the car to struggle to start when cold. Is this correct?"

What the EGR valve actually does, is direct exhaust gases into the air intake of the engine. It is designed to do this when traveling at at speed when the engine is hot. The reason for doing it is to reduce the combustion temperature in the engine which effects (chemically) the production of undesirable gasses in the exhaust.

If the valve is open when starting the engine, that would reduce the amount of oxygen available for combustion. Making it harder to start and also making it run rough whilst cold.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well explained, thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Reading all the replies it's not clear if a faulty egr valve would cause the car to struggle to start when cold. Is this correct?

What the EGR valve actually does, is direct exhaust gases into the air intake of the engine. It is designed to do this when traveling at at speed when the engine is hot. The reason for doing it is to reduce the combustion temperature in the engine which effects (chemically) the production of undesirable gasses in the exhaust.

If the valve is open when starting the engine, that would reduce the amount of oxygen available for combustion. Making it harder to start and also making it run rough whilst cold.

Cal"

Thank you cal. That would explain the problems I've been having. I'll make the necessary calls. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and sent pms.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Reading all the replies it's not clear if a faulty egr valve would cause the car to struggle to start when cold. Is this correct?

What the EGR valve actually does, is direct exhaust gases into the air intake of the engine. It is designed to do this when traveling at at speed when the engine is hot. The reason for doing it is to reduce the combustion temperature in the engine which effects (chemically) the production of undesirable gasses in the exhaust.

If the valve is open when starting the engine, that would reduce the amount of oxygen available for combustion. Making it harder to start and also making it run rough whilst cold.

Cal

Thank you cal. That would explain the problems I've been having. I'll make the necessary calls. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and sent pms. "

Hope you get sorted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As has been said above garages will recommend you replace this item

Don't

You probably know someone in your family or friends who are reasonably competent with a couple of tools and a rag

Offer them a cup of tea and a biscuit (and maybe 20 quid)

It's messy but I'd recommend some standard paint thinners a couple of old toothbrushes and a wad of rags and within the hour your egr valve will be spotless

Grease it with some gold grease (brake anti squeal grease etc it's got loads of names)

Reassemble and reconnect your battery hopefully your engine management light should be out if not chances are it will reset once your engine management senses its working again all will be well

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As has been said above garages will recommend you replace this item

Don't

You probably know someone in your family or friends who are reasonably competent with a couple of tools and a rag

Offer them a cup of tea and a biscuit (and maybe 20 quid)

It's messy but I'd recommend some standard paint thinners a couple of old toothbrushes and a wad of rags and within the hour your egr valve will be spotless

Grease it with some gold grease (brake anti squeal grease etc it's got loads of names)

Reassemble and reconnect your battery hopefully your engine management light should be out if not chances are it will reset once your engine management senses its working again all will be well "

Unfortunately I haven't got anyone that can do it for me unless you're offering lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would have been happy to offer to do it for you but I'm in the north and your in the south

Honestly it's really simple to do there must be someone around you maybe a neighbour

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