FabSwingers.com forum: Nicola Sturgeon

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

On Andrew Marr......"Independence for Scotland is not my starting point"...... Did anyone else see her nose grow?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This woman is a complete $#@#

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Hilary Benn on now seems to be feathering his own nest. Saw that coming months ago.

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By *ewels74Woman
over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

To put it lightly I rarely get annoyed,but everytime she speaks I seem to want to tear her hair out or something and im not that type of person,I hate her literally hate her with a passion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone should get (really) pissed and fuck her. Calm her down a bit. Not sure if Scots drink enough to make her attractive though.

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

I think she was william wallace in a previous life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think she was william wallace in a previous life"

Does that mean we can hang, draw and quarter her ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show. "

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote. "

Yep I do wonder sometimes, but the Scots voted to remain in the UK that was in the EU. I'm actually a Scot living down south and I'd rather we stayed in the UK.

It may all come full circle. Interesting times.

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

I like her. She stands up for the country with conviction. There are so few who do that.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

"Someone should get (really) pissed and fuck her. Calm her down a bit. Not sure if Scots drink enough to make her attractive though. "

Funny how men and some women hate females who are in the public eye for having responsible jobs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't like her BUT she is allowed her views and to fight for what she sees as right!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think she was william wallace in a previous life"

William Wallace was a clever and brave man...she is neither.

Just one little question she should be answering to all in Scotland

"Who the fuck will pay the bills?"

After independence there will be no more money from the South (England/Wales and NI) and the EU is bankrupt...

Russia ?? China ?? ha ha ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I kind of hope the Scots go. Alot of defence work that could have been placed south of the border is going to Scotland for obviously political economic reasons. If they leave it can all come south again. Or even go to Wales, kick start St Athan again for instance.

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By *evilleCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

Wish some idiots on here understood the Scottish situation before they spout utter pish on here !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I kind of hope the Scots go. Alot of defence work that could have been placed south of the border is going to Scotland for obviously political economic reasons. If they leave it can all come south again. Or even go to Wales, kick start St Athan again for instance."

No body has asked her that yet, it would all have to move south and yes Wales would be the place for it to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it me or does she remind you of Dolores Umbridge out of the Harry Potter films....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wish some idiots on here understood the Scottish situation before they spout utter pish on here !!!!!

Some of us do actually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bastard!!....Thought she was dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone should get (really) pissed and fuck her. Calm her down a bit. Not sure if Scots drink enough to make her attractive though. "

Got to agree with this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wish some idiots on here understood the Scottish situation before they spout utter pish on here !!!!!

I would not wish for Scotland to split but it's perfectly obvious thats's what the SNP are and will allways be working towards regaardless of what has happened with the EU vote.

Even if it the UK had voted to stay the SNP would have still been working towards Leaving the UK and becoming Independannt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Her husband looks like Matt Lucas.

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

To hear her speak you would think Scotland was a huge global force,they are not and they are part of the UK who voted leave. Accept it. She even says she will call for a referendum, but only when she knows she will win. An independent Scotland would struggle to survive, that why they voted against independence only a couple of years ago

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She needs to join the FAB....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like her. She stands up for the country with conviction. There are so few who do that. "

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, Yorkshire has a higher population.

Scots get EU funding AND funding from England, as the English funding to the EU is going, the money from EU will massively reduce. The money from England will totally stop. They'd have to start paying for prescriptions and university places...their taxes would skyrocket, they would not qualify for any international loans, they could not live within their means and they would go bust within weeks.

The Scots are a proud people, very patriotic. She calls on this aspect of Scottish pride to make it look like it's an us vs them scenario, but the reality is, she's just another politician trying to increase her own power base. What difference between her and Westminster (many PM's have been Scottish or Scots related)....they all piss out of the same pot. You can tell they're lying whenever their lips are moving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not that they'd qualify to enter the EU anyway, as they won't.

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

But your entire country did not vote one way did not vote one way did it. Are you saying that because a few small but important part of the UK wants to stay in Europe, the 17 million plus of us who want to leave should be ignored? Sorry but it was a fair democratic process and the result must stand

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

"Not that they'd qualify to enter the EU anyway, as they won't."

Done well in Euro 2016 though haven't they! Oh no they failed to qualify for that too lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm one of the scots that voted no in the last ref for independence, but am seriously considering yes if there's a second one. I would rather have Nicola than Boris Johnson, that would definitely be the lunatics taking over the asylum.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

But the ENTIRE country didn't bloody vote one way did they? Sick to death of people presuming we all voted the same we didn't so get over it.

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London - till 25th

As for another indyref.

The UK digs it self into a hole, along comes the SNP and proposes that Scotland digs itself a deeper hole.

Except to piss off the rUK, why would the EU give an iScotland an accelerated "special" status?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for another indyref.

The UK digs it self into a hole, along comes the SNP and proposes that Scotland digs itself a deeper hole.

Except to piss off the rUK, why would the EU give an iScotland an accelerated "special" status?"

Quite simply , it wouldn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On Andrew Marr......"Independence for Scotland is not my starting point"...... Did anyone else see her nose grow?"

And that's why there's such a north south divide in the UK, it's a different political world up here. People down south don't get it, same as we don't get racism and exclusion. Each to their own and I don't hold the majority of England's view against them. It's not her starting point. It's her end game, but not her starting point. To be fair to her, she's the only 'leader' in the UK right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She has just been live on, Sky. News.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would let the Scots go. They get free this and that while us in England don't. Could they survive by them selves who knows. But Nicola sturgeon seems to think they can. Let them get on with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She is trusted by the majority of ppl to do what is best for scotland and that is what she is doing, oh and its our oil and whisky industry that are keeping westminster in their triple A rating so maybe it will be england who will go bust ,saor alba

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not that they'd qualify to enter the EU anyway, as they won't.

Done well in Euro 2016 though haven't they! Oh no they failed to qualify for that too lol"

No we didnt but at least we dont cause trouble in every country we go too we are welcomed not hated like the english hooligans are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

But the ENTIRE country didn't bloody vote one way did they? Sick to death of people presuming we all voted the same we didn't so get over it. "

Exactly

62% voted Remain... Turnout was shit in Scotland so if people actually bothered to vote it could've been higher or more likely lower. Sturgeon needs to get a grip and focus on running our country, instead of wasting time going after Indy2, vile vile creature.

The country voted No in 2014... Now who's not being listened to..

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By *arker66Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

But the ENTIRE country didn't bloody vote one way did they? Sick to death of people presuming we all voted the same we didn't so get over it.

Exactly

The country voted No in 2014... Now who's not being listened to.. "

Very true

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By *KMaxMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Someone should get (really) pissed and fuck her. Calm her down a bit. Not sure if Scots drink enough to make her attractive though.

Funny how men and some women hate females who are in the public eye for having responsible jobs"

Amen to that!

I loathed everything Thatcher stood for, but it had fuck all to do with her being a woman.

As for Nichola Sturgeon, I like her. Talks sensibly and honestly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She is trusted by the majority of ppl to do what is best for scotland and that is what she is doing, oh and its our oil and whisky industry that are keeping westminster in their triple A rating so maybe it will be england who will go bust ,saor alba"

You wouldn't get all the oil only a certain percentage as England would still have a claim as our coast line is on the north sea.

I hope you get independence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would let the Scots go. They get free this and that while us in England don't. Could they survive by them selves who knows. But Nicola sturgeon seems to think they can. Let them get on with it "

Again, you've clearly no idea how it works. The U.K. Gov 'could' give you free services too, they choose not to. We don't get any 'extra' - those things come out of our pocket money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On Andrew Marr......"Independence for Scotland is not my starting point"...... Did anyone else see her nose grow?

Certainly a far better option than Johnson! !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If this is what Scotland vote for then so be it who are we to stand in their way.

Thing is that wouldn't Scotland need to apply for eu membership just like any other country and that could take yrs???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shes cute i wouldn't kick her out 9f bed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

But the ENTIRE country didn't bloody vote one way did they? Sick to death of people presuming we all voted the same we didn't so get over it.

Exactly

The country voted No in 2014... Now who's not being listened to.. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I voted yes in indyref and leave for brexit, not as a tactic for a indyref2 but because I really dislike the EU. For the people arguing scotland voted no well that's true I can understand how's you may feel but keep in mind if scotland doesn't want indy then the result will be no again so no need to panic.

As for a few other comments on here scotland does not get English money, what happens is scotland makes money it goes to Westminster then we get a share back. There seems to be this train of thought that money raised in Scotland is British money, any money given to scotland is English money???? If you actually read over the raw economic data you will find scotland is actually I'm better financial state that England per head.

Also as for the EU, well unfortunately for me some countries the most recent Belgium have insisted scotland remains in the EU and junker or what ever his name is has gave assurances over Scotlands eu status.

Scotland was touted to supply up to 25% of the EU's energy needs not to mention the great importance of scottish waters.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

But the ENTIRE country didn't bloody vote one way did they? Sick to death of people presuming we all voted the same we didn't so get over it.

Exactly

The country voted No in 2014... Now who's not being listened to.. "

It's a good PR stunt for her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Shes cute i wouldn't kick her out 9f bed "

Did see her walking down the high street in Edinburgh a few years ago and she had cracking legs! Not Ma cup of tea but credit where it's due.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I voted yes in indyref and leave for brexit, not as a tactic for a indyref2 but because I really dislike the EU. For the people arguing scotland voted no well that's true I can understand how's you may feel but keep in mind if scotland doesn't want indy then the result will be no again so no need to panic.

Scotland was touted to supply up to 25% of the EU's energy needs not to mention the great importance of scottish waters.

Correct.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone should get (really) pissed and fuck her. Calm her down a bit. Not sure if Scots drink enough to make her attractive though.

WOW

What an odious human you are. Rape the woman to shut her up. You disgust me. "
I don't think he meant it in the way you may have perceived it

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Used to loathe her but since last general election I've viewed her as one of our better politicians.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am I missing something?. She wants independence from the UK only to give up that independence to EU.

Or, more likely, not quite independent from either but enough so that Scotland get the best of both without the beurocracy and extortionate membership fees?.

Would she like a cherry for the top of that icing on top of the cake?.

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I think she was william wallace in a previous life"

You never see her and wee Jimmy crankie in the same room......just saying!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think she was william wallace in a previous life

Does that mean we can hang, draw and quarter her ?

Please do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BBC reporting that Nicola Sturgeon is saying that Scotland could block EU exit by using veto

I did only read a breaking news clip but seems a strange statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"BBC reporting that Nicola Sturgeon is saying that Scotland could block EU exit by using veto

I did only read a breaking news clip but seems a strange statement"

Aparently there needs to be consensus from the devolved parliaments to activate article eh...is it 10 I can't remember. As there needs to be a transfer of powers from Westminster to Edinburgh for a scottish referendum then I'm pretty sure it will be a straight forward exchange.

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By *hil153Man
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Trouble with Scotland and Sturgeon is that they want independance and be in EU ..BUT still want the pound the NHS and the British army .. if they want out then go .. but dont expect to keep all the goodies the come with beig in Uk .. if ure out ure out .. its not a pick and mix shop @!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trouble with Scotland and Sturgeon is that they want independance and be in EU ..BUT still want the pound the NHS and the British army .. if they want out then go .. but dont expect to keep all the goodies the come with beig in Uk .. if ure out ure out .. its not a pick and mix shop @!"

The nhs is scotland has nothing to do with the nhs in England, army wise no scotland wanted a scottish defence force not the British army and yes to the pound as it belongs to all the home nations not just England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi, I wish she would concentrate on running the country rather than bumping her gums about another referendum, what's more important at this point in time?

I'm not a separatist but voted for the SNP as they were the only show in town, starting to think it was the wrong move. Jim

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

What about the Scots that voted to leave don't they matter then, not all Scots voted to remain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

What about the Scots that voted to leave don't they matter then, not all Scots voted to remain."

Unfortunately I have to agree with this. Scotland voted to be part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU. Can't argue one point and dismiss the other.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the ironic thing now is that for all you guys now slag off nicola... it looks she is actually the only person who actually had a plan for what happens next post brexit...

leave doesn't have a scooby what to do.... start the clock now, don't start the clock!

labour are in the midst of a coup...

tories are in a blue on blue leadership war

cameron wiping his hands of the situation....

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote. "

I agree. Hopefully Nicola Sturgeon will accept the decision this time if we vote to remain in the UK!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the ironic thing now is that for all you guys now slag off nicola... it looks she is actually the only person who actually had a plan for what happens next post brexit...

leave doesn't have a scooby what to do.... start the clock now, don't start the clock!

labour are in the midst of a coup...

tories are in a blue on blue leadership war

cameron wiping his hands of the situation...."

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

BAE is a UK company. Not all the defence work has been given to Scotland. Faslane is in Scotland so we will always be strategic in terms of defence.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

Are you referring to the EU vote or the Scottish vote for independence? We voted to remain with the UK but Nicila Sturgeon wants another referendum. So much for the 'not in a lifetime' claim.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it me or does she remind you of Dolores Umbridge out of the Harry Potter films...."
the crankies.. The woman who dressed as a schoolboy

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London - till 25th

Why should the EU disrespect the democratic vote of the UK? (I voted remain btw).

It annoys me that the remain side are aping some of the failed YES camp by pushing for a 2nd ref.

This disrespects the "settled will of the people", to quote Mr Salmond.

Now should there be another General Election and parties supporting Remain win a votw in the majority of both votes and seats, would that supercede the Referendum result?

As for the push for indy2

They define part of the reason as the "little england"/"foreign muck" yet somehow miss its bastard twin in "little scotland"/"english thieves(tories)" narrative.

And still there is no answers to the questions on which indy1 foundered. Europe, Currency, lender of last resort and the basic functions of government.

There were times in the indy ref that some of the worse aspects of the Scottish psyche were laid bare.

As a greek friend said "What is it about the Scots that it's always someone elses fault?"

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

As a greek friend said "What is it about the Scots that it's always someone elses fault?""

I always said the scots like to blame westminster as much as people in england like to blame brussels for their woes........

it nicola can use it as a bargining chip to get more for the people she represents... good for her

for example...if you think it was really in the UK's interest to envoke article 50 straight away... they would have done it yesterday!!!

why do you think leave now say wait.... because its in their best interest!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"the ironic thing now is that for all you guys now slag off nicola... it looks she is actually the only person who actually had a plan for what happens next post brexit...

leave doesn't have a scooby what to do.... start the clock now, don't start the clock!

labour are in the midst of a coup...

tories are in a blue on blue leadership war

cameron wiping his hands of the situation...."

During the run-up to the referendum, there weren't plans for what was to happen once it was completed. So the brexit lot said anything that sounded good, but there was no Tory policy for what they were saying that would have enabled it to happen.

I think the referendum was largely the wrong one, at the wrong time. We seem to be good at charging forth, without the necessary plans for what happens later - think attacks/'regime change' etc we've made in other countries etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like her, and would love to, but I do not get why the Scots do not want to be part of the United Kingdom, and run by an elected Parliament, but prefer to be part of the European Union and run by an unelected foreign elite. It is plain old anti-English racism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm strangely attracted to her!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like her, and would love to, but I do not get why the Scots do not want to be part of the United Kingdom, and run by an elected Parliament, but prefer to be part of the European Union and run by an unelected foreign elite. It is plain old anti-English racism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Scots have always disliked the uk (England) so if they want to go then they should go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It isn't. Parts of Northern England voted remain.I would say that Scotland has much more of a social conscience. Nicola Sturgeon even demonstrated this by addressing the immigrant population of Scotland and telling them they were welcome here and thanking them for the positive economic contributions they have made. "
That's not the point I was trying to make. It's the need for Scotland to disconnect with the UK but to slavishly follow the EU. The UK is democratic and the EU isn't....it makes for odd bed fellows (no pun intended!).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It isn't. Parts of Northern England voted remain.I would say that Scotland has much more of a social conscience. Nicola Sturgeon even demonstrated this by addressing the immigrant population of Scotland and telling them they were welcome here and thanking them for the positive economic contributions they have made. That's not the point I was trying to make. It's the need for Scotland to disconnect with the UK but to slavishly follow the EU. The UK is democratic and the EU isn't....it makes for odd bed fellows (no pun intended!).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It isn't. Parts of Northern England voted remain.I would say that Scotland has much more of a social conscience. Nicola Sturgeon even demonstrated this by addressing the immigrant population of Scotland and telling them they were welcome here and thanking them for the positive economic contributions they have made. That's not the point I was trying to make. It's the need for Scotland to disconnect with the UK but to slavishly follow the EU. The UK is democratic and the EU isn't....it makes for odd bed fellows (no pun intended!).

Sorry but the UK is no more a democracy than Saudi Arabia. Hardly anyone in Scotland voted Tory. I sincerely think alignment with Eire and Northern Ireland is the way forward. Leave England and Wales to it's "Democracy". "
We must agree to disagree. The comparison with Saudi Arabia is very unfair though. Good luck with the Irish idea, the UDF and Protestant para-military's would really go for that.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"I think she was william wallace in a previous life

You never see her and wee Jimmy crankie in the same room......just saying!!"

Fan dabi dozi.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"On Andrew Marr......"Independence for Scotland is not my starting point"...... Did anyone else see her nose grow?"

Think she has realised that the UK govt does not need to enact the referendum outcome.

She has probably also been told that her constant chirruping about independence is only driving the Farage divisions deeper and been told to shtum it up.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Leaving the EU could turn out to be very good for Scotland. Scotland can now reclaim it's fishing rights in the north Sea back from the EU. Only Scottish (or uk) fishing boats can fish there, EU fishing boats will be excluded. Scottish fishing industry could boom outside of the EU. I've not heard a peep out of Nicola Sturgeon about that.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

The entire country of Scotland did not vote one way about 2/3 voted remain and 1/3 voted leave.

62% remain and 38 % leave.

She is an opportunist politician and will take any chance she thinks there is to try to gain independence for Scotland.

However the Scots are not stupid, as with the Labour vote in the north of England enough voted leave to produce the result wanted.

Sturgeon knows that and she knows a second referendum could ruin her chance of victory for a lifetime as the Scots would leave in droves if the next referendum showed the majority wanted to stay in the UK

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Leaving the EU could turn out to be very good for Scotland. Scotland can now reclaim it's fishing rights in the north Sea back from the EU. Only Scottish (or uk) fishing boats can fish there, EU fishing boats will be excluded. Scottish fishing industry could boom outside of the EU. I've not heard a peep out of Nicola Sturgeon about that. "

Probably because she knows the raft of legislation that goes with Brexit.

Upholding Brexit is not just about fishing rights and quotas, it means a re-writing of our whole constitutional laws. What is being tabled right now is if we actually proceed with Article 50 and the decision of the referendum outcome.

Fishing rights are the least of anyones problems. Our exit from the EU will mean 50 new trade agreements. There will be no rush for Article 50.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Edit to the above: Sturgeon probably doesn't know the raft of legislation But is is slowly dawning of the Brexit camp that there IS a raft of legislation now to be considered, changed and dealt with in the event of triggering Article 50 that they simply were/are not prepared for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote. "

She doesnt speak for me her or her nazi party

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote.

She doesnt speak for me her or her nazi party"

Nazi party?,,lol,,a pro immigration party Nazi,,,lol,,get a grip,,n learn to read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote.

She doesnt speak for me her or her nazi party

Nazi party?,,lol,,a pro immigration party Nazi,,,lol,,get a grip,,n learn to read"

I have a grip and i can read and its called an opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like her. She stands up for the country with conviction. There are so few who do that.

I agree

and look at the other options; how can anyone vote Labour with Kezia Dugdale running the show!!!!

at least snp do put Scotland's interests first, even although I detest some of their new laws being introduced

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

I like her.

Growing up in a unionist environment in Northern Ireland I was very much conditioned to believe that 'British' was right and anything else was wrong.

When I left for uni and spread my wings I saw that for the sectarian hogwash it is.

Sure oil prices are down, but we're not replenishing oil supplies, they'll go up again.

In the meantime if Scotland votes for independence, both it and the Republic of Ireland would be well placed to poach jobs from England, Wales and Northern Ireland from businesses and companies who want access to the single market.

There should be no clearer indication to the people of Scotland that their interests are very much at odds with the interests of England and Wales.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So if your entire country voted one way but weren't listened to.. you'd be fine with that??

Everyone who didn't vote conservative in the last election had to do that. Always has been the way. It is the form of democracy we have chosen as a country. And before anyone suggests PR.....we had a referendum on that and rejected it massively in favour of first past the post in parliamentary seats.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"And before anyone suggests PR.....we had a referendum on that and rejected it massively in favour of first past the post in parliamentary seats."

No we didn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chicago Mercantile Exchange close Friday 24th June 2016 North Sea Brent $48.41.

To make break even Brent has to be $51 in 2015/16 the Treasury put in Pounds Sterling 24 million to the oil industry a loss to the UK tax pocket.

So over to the Scottish viewers for their comments as North Sea oil income has gone "bust". It isn't $100 plus per barrel but $48.41 and with Iran coming online per 2017 the price of oil is predicted to fall to $28 per barrel.

At that price all North Sea oil rigs will be "mothballed" with a lose of approx. 35'000 jobs to North England and Scotland.

So - where where does the money come from ???

The signed Union Agreement passed off by the Scottish Parliament in 1707 one after Westminister allowed James VI to unite North and South under a) one crown b) to give Scotland access to the English markets without taxes c) to enable Glasgow traders to trade with all the English (British) colonies.

At the turn of the century Scotland was bankrupt and the laird were turning small farm holders away from their lands to enable even large sheep herds...

What Mde Sturgeon is suggesting is a "rape" of the country; furthermore to all our friends in the North

https://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/DE/StatischeSeiten/Breg/Europa/Artikel/2005-11-08-kriterien-beitrittskandidaten.html

that is the official website of the German government for the requirements for the qualification of membership to the EU (Pls excuse it is in German but certainly you all can read it)

IT points out clearly that the applying country must have a stable and productive industry base and to accept the Acquis communautaire [in short to become an Euro member and to accept all regulations and laws from Brussels).

I (m) am a proud member of a Scottish Clan; our family has served in the British army (and under Bonny Prince) for centuries. However we (the family) see from our multi culture upbringing (I served in the Swiss army and speak fluent 5 languages [so much for uneducated Northerns]), that Mrs N Sturgeon and Mr Salmon are lying to the Scottish people.

If Scotland wishes to go alone - then I believe the Welsh and English public will wish them luck and that they achieve. However on the other side of the coin I would then strongly suggest that if it does not work out for Scotland and they are "bust" within 2 years (The EU will not give money) then there is no return in the way the situation is at present.

Mrs Sturgeon has NOT the interest of the Scottish people in mind but only the interest of her very fanatic party and herself.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

The first criteria for an application to the EU is that you have to be a sovereign state. The definition of a sovereign state is that you have to be in ultimate control of your legislature, that there is no external overseer of your country and that your football team are good enough to qualify for the Euro's.

Wishful thinking on Nicola's part then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote.

She doesnt speak for me her or her nazi party

Nazi party?,,lol,,a pro immigration party Nazi,,,lol,,get a grip,,n learn to read

I have a grip and i can read and its called an opinion "

so in your opinion,,why is a party that wants immigration and wants to remain, a Nazi party,,please explain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of a democratic vote to me.

Scotland votes to remain....not the result she wanted, therefore wants another vote.

U.K. Votes to leave the eu...not the result she wanted...wants to block the vote and vote again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now is probably not the right time for the SNP to be agitating for another referendum. Let's see what comes from our renegotiation with the EU as the "United" Kingdom. Any sign of weakness in the union will only make that negotiation more difficult. If Scotland is not happy with the outcome then that maybe, and I stress maybe the time to review the current situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just to clarify the above- by remain I mean remain in the U.K. From the Scottish independence vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of a democratic vote to me.

Scotland votes to remain....not the result she wanted, therefore wants another vote.

U.K. Votes to leave the eu...not the result she wanted...wants to block the vote and vote again.

oh ffs get yer facts right,,yes she did want Scotland to remain,,and that's what Scotland overwhelmingly voted

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"And before anyone suggests PR.....we had a referendum on that and rejected it massively in favour of first past the post in parliamentary seats.

No we didn't. "

Think you will find we did!

Www.bbc.co.ukUK-politics-13297573. It took place on May 7 2011

Did you miss it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

snow ball rolling down the hill,getting bigger n bigger,,everything is pointing to a yes vote.

only a matter of time

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By *uyfromchiMan
over a year ago

CHICHESTER

"On Andrew Marr......"Independence for Scotland is not my starting point"...... Did anyone else see her nose grow?"
yes lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of a democratic vote to me.

Scotland votes to remain....not the result she wanted, therefore wants another vote.

U.K. Votes to leave the eu...not the result she wanted...wants to block the vote and vote again.

oh ffs get yer facts right,,yes she did want Scotland to remain,,and that's what Scotland overwhelmingly voted"

I knew somebody would need clarification

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By *44bertCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

"I think she was william wallace in a previous life

Does that mean we can hang, draw and quarter her ?

Please do

Really? You want to murder her?

Well you're quite the catch, I must say...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of a democratic vote to me.

Scotland votes to remain....not the result she wanted, therefore wants another vote.

U.K. Votes to leave the eu...not the result she wanted...wants to block the vote and vote again.

oh ffs get yer facts right,,yes she did want Scotland to remain,,and that's what Scotland overwhelmingly voted

I knew somebody would need clarification

yea ,,YOU

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"And before anyone suggests PR.....we had a referendum on that and rejected it massively in favour of first past the post in parliamentary seats.

No we didn't.

Think you will find we did!

Www.bbc.co.ukUK-politics-13297573. It took place on May 7 2011

Did you miss it?"

We have a vote on an alternative voting system.

We didn't have a vote on PR.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She doesn't quite seem to grasp the concept of a democratic vote to me.

Scotland votes to remain....not the result she wanted, therefore wants another vote.

U.K. Votes to leave the eu...not the result she wanted...wants to block the vote and vote again.

oh ffs get yer facts right,,yes she did want Scotland to remain,,and that's what Scotland overwhelmingly voted

I knew somebody would need clarification

yea ,,YOU

Go back, you'll see I put two posts up, the second clarifying I meant Scotland voted to remain with the U.K. In their independence vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish Nicola the best of british in her endevours

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"To put it lightly I rarely get annoyed,but everytime she speaks I seem to want to tear her hair out or something and im not that type of person,I hate her literally hate her with a passion"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

think shes great,,love her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why did we say we wanted the British army? We already have our own NHS, nowt to do with rUK and frankly mate, we created the pound. Read your history.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why did we say we wanted the British army? We already have our own NHS, nowt to do with rUK and frankly mate, we created the pound. Read your history.

Be "

*when

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Lets get a few things straight here.

1 - The pound sterling belongs to Scotland as much as it belongs to England.

2 - the NHS in Scotland is its own organisation and the Scottish government controls it.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Chicago Mercantile Exchange close Friday 24th June 2016 North Sea Brent $48.41.

To make break even Brent has to be $51 in 2015/16 the Treasury put in Pounds Sterling 24 million to the oil industry a loss to the UK tax pocket.

At that price all North Sea oil rigs will be "mothballed" with a lose of approx. 35'000 jobs to North England and Scotland.

So - where where does the money come from ???

At the turn of the century Scotland was bankrupt and the laird were turning small farm holders away from their lands to enable even large sheep herds...

What Mde Sturgeon is suggesting is a "rape" of the country; furthermore to all our friends in the North

https://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/DE/StatischeSeiten/Breg/Europa/Artikel/2005-11-08-kriterien-beitrittskandidaten.html

that is the official website of the German government for the requirements for the qualification of membership to the EU (Pls excuse it is in German but certainly you all can read it)

Mrs Sturgeon has NOT the interest of the Scottish people in mind but only the interest of her very fanatic party and herself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets get a few things straight here.

1 - The pound sterling belongs to Scotland as much as it belongs to England.

2 - the NHS in Scotland is its own organisation and the Scottish government controls it. "

To 1) Wrong

If Madame Sturgeon goes it alone and Scotland is independent, then they can not have the Pound Sterling as their currency. To join they EU they have to have their own currency, and their own Central Bank...

However until they are "alone" it is correct that they have the Pound Sterling but they way she (Sturgeon) is running it

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Some claim she is a very clever politician, well she is certainly opportunistic,but obviously not that bright, she said on friday that the leave vote would cause significant harm to the uk economy,cost many jobs and shrink GDP,she now says that she wants independence to keep the status quo in the single market and to keep the pound, what she forgets is that IF the UK economy bombs and the predictions of remain come to pass and the pound slumps 20/30% the income from oil will slump even further the cost of imports will rocket leading to a large rise in inflation,I bet her large fan base will love her for that. However as has been said she cant have the pound so will have to accept the euro if of course the spanish can be persuaded to not veto scotlands application to join the eu which they will do to stop independent demands from catalonia .

Would be ironic if they vote for indy2 apply to join the eu and itfoldsbefore they get in,creek,paddle and up come to mind. She is playing a very dangerous game with the lives of the scottish people,if she is as bright as some suggest she will wait to see what happens before going for a second ref

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just posted this on another Thread:

"I never seek to criticise the Scottish people. My beef is with that woman who is First Minister and her making mischief with everything at this critical time. In fact I have some sympathy for the Scots for when her policies start to hit their wallets. Or Sporrans or wherever.

Her hypocrisy is staggering. On the one hand she says the Scots voted to Remain (forgetting the 1 Million who actually voted to Leave) and that means the majority rules and yet on the other she ignores the 17.3 Million who gave a UK majority to Leave. One majority rules in Scotland but not in the UK. Unbelievable.

What she is REALLY engaged in is Project Smokescreen as she knows she cannot rely on us English to fund her deficits any more now she has full fiscal powers and has to balance the books. The £15 Bn she cost us in 2015 is worth some £3,000 for every man, woman and child in Scotland. That is going to hurt the poor and the weak first.

I know Scotland is a great place and that is why I am annoyed, angry even, at her antics. I respect the fact that the SNP are the elected Government. I respected their right to have a referendum which they held. What is totally wrong is to peddle the lie that the poor Scots never knew there was a possibility of the UK leaving the EU when they HAD that referendum. Or that they were assured a vote to stay in the UK was a guarantee of remaining in the EU. A total barefaced pack of lies by this woman. The Scots knew for 18 months before their referendum in Sept. 2014 there would be an EU referendum if the Tories won in May 2015.

And now she is getting way above her office by engaging directly with EU officials. Foreign Policy of the UK is handled by Westminster. It is not a devolved power.

And to cap it all she is threatening to block the passage of any Brexit legislation. Again showing her ignorance (or ability to lie) as the Scottish Parliament does not have that power. Personally if she carries on like this I think someone should tell her that we could repeal the Act of Union and set the Scots free...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't like to see Scotland go but as I said the last time, was it two years ago?.... If they choose to go and be independent I'm all for it, why are people so afraid of democratic choices?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate to annoy all you sturgeon haters, but she is Scotland's most voted for leader.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"hate to annoy all you sturgeon haters, but she is Scotland's most voted for leader."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chicago Mercantile Exchange close Friday 24th June 2016 North Sea Brent $48.41.

To make break even Brent has to be $51 in 2015/16 the Treasury put in Pounds Sterling 24 million to the oil industry a loss to the UK tax pocket.

At that price all North Sea oil rigs will be "mothballed" with a lose of approx. 35'000 jobs to North England and Scotland.

So - where where does the money come from ???

At the turn of the century Scotland was bankrupt and the laird were turning small farm holders away from their lands to enable even large sheep herds...

What Mde Sturgeon is suggesting is a "rape" of the country; furthermore to all our friends in the North

https://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/DE/StatischeSeiten/Breg/Europa/Artikel/2005-11-08-kriterien-beitrittskandidaten.html

that is the official website of the German government for the requirements for the qualification of membership to the EU (Pls excuse it is in German but certainly you all can read it)

Mrs Sturgeon has NOT the interest of the Scottish people in mind but only the interest of her very fanatic party and herself. "

Back of the net. Something else Scotland can't find ...

You missed out the £15 Bn Scotland cost the English in 2015. For all her BS Scotland is a busted flush with oil at anything less than $100 a barrel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chicago Mercantile Exchange close Friday 24th June 2016 North Sea Brent $48.41.

To make break even Brent has to be $51 in 2015/16 the Treasury put in Pounds Sterling 24 million to the oil industry a loss to the UK tax pocket.

At that price all North Sea oil rigs will be "mothballed" with a lose of approx. 35'000 jobs to North England and Scotland.

So - where where does the money come from ???

At the turn of the century Scotland was bankrupt and the laird were turning small farm holders away from their lands to enable even large sheep herds...

What Mde Sturgeon is suggesting is a "rape" of the country; furthermore to all our friends in the North

https://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/DE/StatischeSeiten/Breg/Europa/Artikel/2005-11-08-kriterien-beitrittskandidaten.html

that is the official website of the German government for the requirements for the qualification of membership to the EU (Pls excuse it is in German but certainly you all can read it)

Mrs Sturgeon has NOT the interest of the Scottish people in mind but only the interest of her very fanatic party and herself.

Back of the net. Something else Scotland can't find ...

You missed out the £15 Bn Scotland cost the English in 2015. For all her BS Scotland is a busted flush with oil at anything less than $100 a barrel."

why the hell does some onein Ipswich care what we doin scotland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"hate to annoy all you sturgeon haters, but she is Scotland's most voted for leader."

Yes she may be. But then until this year the English were paying the bills the SNP ran up. So everything good apparently came from the SNP and everything bad came from Westminster. SNP Socialist La LA Land...

This year its the Scots who will have to find an extra £3,000 for every man, woman and child. THEN see if she is so popular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"hate to annoy all you sturgeon haters, but she is Scotland's most voted for leader.

This year its the Scots who will have to find an extra £3,000 for every man, woman and child. THEN see if she is so popular."

oh who cares your in Ipswich you have no say in our matters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" why the hell does some onein Ipswich care what we doin scotland "

Quite simple really. What you do in Scotland has:

a) put up my taxes because we underwrite your deficit

b) elected a First Minister who thinks she is the UK Prime Minister

And apart from all that we English have had to put up with years of abuse and racist comments from the SNP and frankly we have had enough. You go pay your bills and I wouldn't care. While we pay those bills I care greatly ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not Scottish oil, never has been, firstly the UK sold off most of the oil field rights decades ago and secondly you cannot legally claim rights to a resource that was found under joint ownership..

Just like Yorkshire couldn't claim rights for coal, Wales couldn't claim for coal or slate, northern Ireland couldn't claim for gold and England can't lay claim for north sea gas!!.. They were found under joint ownership by the UK and benefited the UK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" why the hell does some onein Ipswich care what we doin scotland

Quite simple really. What you do in Scotland has:

a) put up my taxes because we underwrite your deficit

b) elected a First Minister who thinks she is the UK Prime Minister

lol,,utter nonsense.

if we,re that racist why do loads of English people living in Scotland VOTE SNP????

Oh and if scotlands such a burden why did the uk beg Scotland to stay?

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"On Andrew Marr......"Independence for Scotland is not my starting point"...... Did anyone else see her nose grow?

And during the canvassing for the failed Scottish I dependence vote, the Shetlands were quite amused at the "so far away from London" moan and remarking that Shetland is further away from Edinburgh than Edinburgh is from London!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She looks like one of the Krankies to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not Scottish oil, never has been, firstly the UK sold off most of the oil field rights decades ago and secondly you cannot legally claim rights to a resource that was found under joint ownership..

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London

"Is it me or does she remind you of Dolores Umbridge out of the Harry Potter films...."

Nah...she's either Little Jimmy Krankie or Rab C Nesbitt's son Wee Burney.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's wise to remember the UK is not a political union, were a country, the countries of England Scotland Wales and northern Ireland were amalgamated into one the united kingdom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hmmm,,i wonder why English folk get so annoyed,,lol,,weird

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over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal"
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I don't have any problem with that at all, I'm absolutely for democratic decisions

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over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal.

I don't have any problem with that at all, I'm absolutely for democratic decisions"

cool,,thats the way it should be,not stupid krankies comments and anti Scottish bullshit.

its our country ,the scots will decide not anyone in peru ,England or the moon

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over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal.

I don't have any problem with that at all, I'm absolutely for democratic decisions

cool,,thats the way it should be,not stupid krankies comments and anti Scottish bullshit.

its our country ,the scots will decide not anyone in peru ,England or the moon"
.

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal"

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

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over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union "

if you 1st don't succeed try try again,,its gonna happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal.

I don't have any problem with that at all, I'm absolutely for democratic decisions

cool,,thats the way it should be,not stupid krankies comments and anti Scottish bullshit.

its our country ,the scots will decide not anyone in peru ,England or the moon.

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%"

no it is scotlands oil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal.

I don't have any problem with that at all, I'm absolutely for democratic decisions

cool,,thats the way it should be,not stupid krankies comments and anti Scottish bullshit.

its our country ,the scots will decide not anyone in peru ,England or the moon.

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil"

not that that matters anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil

not that that matters anyway"
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It doesn't matter at all, unless your pedaling bullshit to get somebody to vote the way you want, I think the remain camp(Nicola) were very consistent on that front

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union "

When the Union hadn't voted for Brexit.

Now the terms of being in the Union have changed completely.

The people of Scotland deserve to decide if they want to yield their wishes to the wishes of England and Wales.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil

not that that matters anyway.

It doesn't matter at all, unless your pedaling bullshit to get somebody to vote the way you want, I think the remain camp(Nicola) were very consistent on that front"

its scotlands oil,,see you in court

and to be honest,,its not for someone in Birmingham to spout about what the people of Scotland wish,,go tell the dutch or Brazilians what to do,,i mean why not,,lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

When the Union hadn't voted for Brexit.

Now the terms of being in the Union have changed completely.

The people of Scotland deserve to decide if they want to yield their wishes to the wishes of England and Wales. "

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

no it is scotlands oil"

It`s mainly under UK territorial waters and harvested by multi-national companies. Some pockets of oil may extend into International waters. Thank goodness we don`t get into arguments with other commodities like migratory fish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

if you 1st don't succeed try try again,,its gonna happen"

But a side did succeed the no campaign won. So no not everyone in scotland wants to leave the union and its about time people start respecting the outcome of a democratic vote

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no it is scotlands oil

no its in Scottish waters oh and under labour those sea borders where tampered with,if Scotland does win independence blair is in trouble,,it was unlawfull,and very few people know that story.

it will all come out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

if you 1st don't succeed try try again,,its gonna happen

But a side did succeed the no campaign won. So no not everyone in scotland wants to leave the union and its about time people start respecting the outcome of a democratic vote"

yes it did,,but the uk wants out of the eu,,Scotland does not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To hear her speak you would think Scotland was a huge global force,they are not and they are part of the UK who voted leave. Accept it. She even says she will call for a referendum, but only when she knows she will win. An independent Scotland would struggle to survive, that why they voted against independence only a couple of years ago "
actually even though most deny it fear and sectarianism played the biggest part on why Scotland voted no, I wish people south would stop taking it so personally. The 45% of us who want an independent Scotland don't want it to get away from all of you as a lot of you believe, we want independence to get away from your government, we don't pay for prescriptions but your government want to change that, your government want to privatise the NHS we don't want that, if we get independence we get full control over fuel, oil, gas & electricity prices because most of it comes from us & your government don't want that because they'd have to pay more than they are now, Scotland pays the most in tax of the 4 country's in the UK & considering there are more people in London than the whole of Scotland that's scary! Without us your government would be out of billions perhaps trillions a month.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

post after post from people living in England,,lol,,i just don't get it,,its not your country.

and we,re so useless and a burden,,why do you whinge about us leaving

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over a year ago

"To hear her speak you would think Scotland was a huge global force,they are not and they are part of the UK who voted leave. Accept it. She even says she will call for a referendum, but only when she knows she will win. An independent Scotland would struggle to survive, that why they voted against independence only a couple of years ago actually even though most deny it fear and sectarianism played the biggest part on why Scotland voted no, I wish people south would stop taking it so personally. The 45% of us who want an independent Scotland don't want it to get away from all of you as a lot of you believe, we want independence to get away from your government, we don't pay for prescriptions but your government want to change that, your government want to privatise the NHS we don't want that, if we get independence we get full control over fuel, oil, gas & electricity prices because most of it comes from us & your government don't want that because they'd have to pay more than they are now, Scotland pays the most in tax of the 4 country's in the UK & considering there are more people in London than the whole of Scotland that's scary! Without us your government would be out of billions perhaps trillions a month.

its weird innit,,they really do take it personally,,ffs,,I don't hate the English,,i just want the people living in Scotland to have control.

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By *ewels74Woman
over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

I've a general question in regards to something but

Can a Monarch have the right to take action away from a Government and dissolve it? (Hence the Queen taking the initiative and getting involved)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've a general question in regards to something but

Can a Monarch have the right to take action away from a Government and dissolve it? (Hence the Queen taking the initiative and getting involved)"

hopefully not,,infact,,no chance

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By *ewels74Woman
over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

Scottish government I mean just so Ms Sturgeon doesn't do anything

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"I've a general question in regards to something but

Can a Monarch have the right to take action away from a Government and dissolve it? (Hence the Queen taking the initiative and getting involved)"

Balmoral Castle would be torched.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish government I mean just so Ms Sturgeon doesn't do anything"

no any monarch doing that would lose their head very quickly

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By *ewels74Woman
over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

Mm just a thought had been in my head and felt the need to think out loud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

if you 1st don't succeed try try again,,its gonna happen

But a side did succeed the no campaign won. So no not everyone in scotland wants to leave the union and its about time people start respecting the outcome of a democratic vote

yes it did,,but the uk wants out of the eu,,Scotland does not.

Scotland is part of the uk they voted to stay

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

if you 1st don't succeed try try again,,its gonna happen

But a side did succeed the no campaign won. So no not everyone in scotland wants to leave the union and its about time people start respecting the outcome of a democratic vote

yes it did,,but the uk wants out of the eu,,Scotland does not.

Scotland is part of the uk they voted to stay "

I hate to break it to you but it's looking like a majority of Scottish voters feel very differently to you.

On the EU, and now also on the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union

if you 1st don't succeed try try again,,its gonna happen

But a side did succeed the no campaign won. So no not everyone in scotland wants to leave the union and its about time people start respecting the outcome of a democratic vote

yes it did,,but the uk wants out of the eu,,Scotland does not.

Scotland is part of the uk they voted to stay "

who cares what you think,,its NOT your concern,,and you have NO say in Scottish matters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil

not that that matters anyway.

It doesn't matter at all, unless your pedaling bullshit to get somebody to vote the way you want, I think the remain camp(Nicola) were very consistent on that front

its scotlands oil,,see you in court

and to be honest,,its not for someone in Birmingham to spout about what the people of Scotland wish,,go tell the dutch or Brazilians what to do,,i mean why not,,lol"
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No but if you think for a minute about the implications internationally.... What that would be abdicating is that every single region in the world with natural resources would like to leave the country their part of, and have the resources for themselves, so it would be like south Sudan all over the world, with Alaska telling the US to do one, it's Alaskan oil, Texas, bits of Venezuela, regions of south Africa... It's exactly why international agreement would come down in favour of UKr and not Scotland!.

But like I say, I wish the Scots well with whatever they decide

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil

not that that matters anyway.

It doesn't matter at all, unless your pedaling bullshit to get somebody to vote the way you want, I think the remain camp(Nicola) were very consistent on that front

its scotlands oil,,see you in court

and to be honest,,its not for someone in Birmingham to spout about what the people of Scotland wish,,go tell the dutch or Brazilians what to do,,i mean why not,,lol.

But like I say, I wish the Scots well with whatever they decide"

well its really fucked us off you lot leaving the eu

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil

not that that matters anyway.

It doesn't matter at all, unless your pedaling bullshit to get somebody to vote the way you want, I think the remain camp(Nicola) were very consistent on that front

its scotlands oil,,see you in court

and to be honest,,its not for someone in Birmingham to spout about what the people of Scotland wish,,go tell the dutch or Brazilians what to do,,i mean why not,,lol.

But like I say, I wish the Scots well with whatever they decide

well its really fucked us off you lot leaving the eu"
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Again I can understand that, however there's no sovereign country as Scotland just like there's no England or Wales, were one, the UK, one currency, one central bank one government!.

We roll the dice as one, were not a political union of separate sovereign states

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can i say it aint pissed me off.. i voted to leave and voted to keep the union... just saying, not all us scots are anti english

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Again as I said, I personally wouldn't like to see Scotland go from the union, however the choice is there's.

It just annoys me when snp supporters refer to Scottish oil?.

It's not, it's UK oil and as such just like the UK debt youd receive a proportion of UK assets and UK debts based on your population size.... Probably somewhere Between 5 and 10%

no it is scotlands oil

not that that matters anyway.

It doesn't matter at all, unless your pedaling bullshit to get somebody to vote the way you want, I think the remain camp(Nicola) were very consistent on that front

its scotlands oil,,see you in court

and to be honest,,its not for someone in Birmingham to spout about what the people of Scotland wish,,go tell the dutch or Brazilians what to do,,i mean why not,,lol.

But like I say, I wish the Scots well with whatever they decide

well its really fucked us off you lot leaving the eu.

Again I can understand that, however there's no sovereign country as Scotland just like there's no England or Wales, were one, the UK, one currency, one central bank one government!.

We roll the dice as one, were not a political union of separate sovereign states "

Hahaha, roll the dice as England you mean.

It's not a union of equals.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

no it is scotlands oil

no its in Scottish waters oh and under labour those sea borders where tampered with,if Scotland does win independence blair is in trouble,,it was unlawfull,and very few people know that story.

it will all come out"

UK Territorial Waters go back a bloody sight further than Tony Blair! Probably several hundred years if the truth be told!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no it is scotlands oil

no its in Scottish waters oh and under labour those sea borders where tampered with,if Scotland does win independence blair is in trouble,,it was unlawfull,and very few people know that story.

it will all come out

UK Territorial Waters go back a bloody sight further than Tony Blair! Probably several hundred years if the truth be told!"

correct,,,and your point is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people up here just wanna have control of their own country,,just like the brexit people wanted to be free of Europe,,whats the big deal

Some people not all, remember 54% voted to remain in the union "

... and a million + voted to Leave the EU but they don't count apparently.

Ms Sturgeon use the 'majority rules' idea for Scotland but not for the UK. Hypocrisy beyond belief.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, she's standing by her country and she's the leader who hasn't resigned or had a vote of no confidence. Least they have options. We seem screwed at the moment. No one running the show.

Is she representing Scotland or herself? The Scots knew there would be an EU referendum and still voted to stay in the UK.

I think that with oil prices so low, another referendum in Scotland will return a Remain in UK vote. "
Most of the country did not want a fucking tory government,the decision was we did end up with one,we live with it ,Nicolas fucking fishface should respect the decision a year ago of the Scots ...no one else ...the fucking Scots..shut your mouth and dissapear ,its not the English peoples fault your a minority through your countrymen leaving to better themselves elsewhere...mainly England

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"To hear her speak you would think Scotland was a huge global force,they are not and they are part of the UK who voted leave. Accept it. She even says she will call for a referendum, but only when she knows she will win. An independent Scotland would struggle to survive, that why they voted against independence only a couple of years ago actually even though most deny it fear and sectarianism played the biggest part on why Scotland voted no, I wish people south would stop taking it so personally. The 45% of us who want an independent Scotland don't want it to get away from all of you as a lot of you believe, we want independence to get away from your government, we don't pay for prescriptions but your government want to change that, your government want to privatise the NHS we don't want that, if we get independence we get full control over fuel, oil, gas & electricity prices because most of it comes from us & your government don't want that because they'd have to pay more than they are now, Scotland pays the most in tax of the 4 country's in the UK & considering there are more people in London than the whole of Scotland that's scary! Without us your government would be out of billions perhaps trillions a month.

its weird innit,,they really do take it personally,,ffs,,I don't hate the English,,i just want the people living in Scotland to have control."

Strange thats what the people of the UK said about the eu,strange why do the scots want freedom from the uk where the politicians can be sacked but will give up sovereignty to 27 unelected eurocrats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"post after post from people living in England,,lol,,i just don't get it,,its not your country. "

let me help you 'get it'. It is OUR country. It is called the United Kingdom.

And as for us keeping our noses out of Scottish affairs well tell the SNP MPs to stop meddling in English affairs. 'get it'?

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