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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

God. forbid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"God. forbid."

You like a full stop

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"God. forbid.

You like a full stop "

Period.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins"

Lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you mean Scotland?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you mean Scotland?"

EU. referendum.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum. "

referenda

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

The one last week was the second referendum, if and when we hold another it will be third

The rules about a referendum is that they are only valid at that point in time and at the question asked, hence the considered _iew of the British public in 1975 can be overruled now and any referendum at any point in the future would overule this one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins"

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum. "

I see yes, yeah we have to live with the consequences the brexitors made, now on the news they inter_iew few leavers saying they almost regretting the vote as they thought it would be a remain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it hasn't. Some jump ties have started a petition. It will not happen.

One of the problems with EU is lack of democracy. Eire and Netherlands both had referenda on treaty.....voted no! EU told them...that's the wrong answer, please do it again!

We voted. We chose. Live with it. As for those who didn't vite....they chose to do so. They chose to give up any right to comment!

That's democracy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No it hasn't. Some jump ties have started a petition. It will not happen.

One of the problems with EU is lack of democracy. Eire and Netherlands both had referenda on treaty.....voted no! EU told them...that's the wrong answer, please do it again!

We voted. We chose. Live with it. As for those who didn't vite....they chose to do so. They chose to give up any right to comment!

That's democracy!"

Thoroughly agreed. As I said in a VERY similar thread earlier... This is democracy. We state our preference by way of vote & the majority wins. Democracy is what makes us rational.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors."

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

We need a national game of Rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat. "

Nooooo at least make everyone fight it out, the leave side would have the advantage though.

Whichever side was the winner wouldn't have to listen to the other side whinging then.

Now what to do with the none-voters....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat.

Nooooo at least make everyone fight it out, the leave side would have the advantage though.

Whichever side was the winner wouldn't have to listen to the other side whinging then.

Now what to do with the none-voters...."

Errr that sounds less like 'trial by combat' and more like 'civil war'!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum. "

why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat.

Nooooo at least make everyone fight it out, the leave side would have the advantage though.

Whichever side was the winner wouldn't have to listen to the other side whinging then.

Now what to do with the none-voters....

Errr that sounds less like 'trial by combat' and more like 'civil war'! "

Let's not get hung up on the technicalities now....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum. I see yes, yeah we have to live with the consequences the brexitors made, now on the news they inter_iew few leavers saying they almost regretting the vote as they thought it would be a remain."

Oh nice. Do lets just have the one sided 'facts' shall we?

Listen up: I don't care if people didn't understand, put the X in the wrong box or were just pissed at the time. What is done is done. And whatever faults you lay at the 'Leave' side I bet they are just the same as on the 'Remain side'. Its just that people like you can't take the democratic decision of the British people and go trawling for supposed 'facts'.

Suck it up Sweetcheeks... its DONE. we are OUT...

(And Thank God we are too)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum.

why"

Yes as scotland want to be in the eu you know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat. "

trials by combat have been outlawed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Lol."

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-25/police-investigate-vermin-notes-aimed-at-polish-community/

Lol.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum. I see yes, yeah we have to live with the consequences the brexitors made, now on the news they inter_iew few leavers saying they almost regretting the vote as they thought it would be a remain."

Who is the "we" you speak of? I was under the impression that you are off to Spain first chance you get?

You were leaving this country whatever the outcome of the referendum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat. trials by combat have been outlawed "

And yet you offered to go one on one with someone on Monday did you not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Fuck it, just let Cameron and farage have a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Put Cameron and Farage in trial by combat. trials by combat have been outlawed

And yet you offered to go one on one with someone on Monday did you not? "

that was more a duel than a trial by combat

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy. "

Those that chose not to vote do not count. Simples

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By *lttattoocoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Lol.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-25/police-investigate-vermin-notes-aimed-at-polish-community/

Lol."

Why is that funny?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy.

Those that chose not to vote do not count. Simples "

Absolutely right, those that didn't vote exercised their democratic right not to, to overturn an electoral decision on that basis would destroy our constitution.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

The result does mean that Scotland faces another referendum. First one didn't go the way Alex Salmond wanted and he resigned.

EU vote didn't go the way David Cameron's wanted and he is resigning.

Hope Nicola fancies her chances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The result does mean that Scotland faces another referendum. First one didn't go the way Alex Salmond wanted and he resigned.

EU vote didn't go the way David Cameron's wanted and he is resigning.

Hope Nicola fancies her chances."

Ruth is good too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal."

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Lol.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-25/police-investigate-vermin-notes-aimed-at-polish-community/

Lol.

Why is that funny?"

By BaldandWellEndowed72 OP Find posts by BaldandWellEndowed72 Man

8 hours ago

You are there. I am here.

I am not ashamed to admit this. The 2 main reasons why I voted to "leave" was because of the infestation of immigrants coming into the, United. Kingdom.

Which frankly is getting out of hand and secondly because of my patronism of the country I love.

Which is the, United. Kingdom. not Europe. or the (EU).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy. "
Only 28% voted for the government That's life

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By *ark_uk_1968Man
over a year ago

chertsey


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process. "

Wish there was a like button on here. Very well said

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"God. forbid.

You like a full stop "

Oh that's a vast improvement on his past efforts.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

That krankie-faced Sturgeon just wants to be Prime Minister of Scotland. First minister sounds like a made-up post.

We should keep having referenda until the scots and the londoners get the result they want.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy. "

Personally I'd say no, not really, which is why I have a bit of sympathy for those calling for a rerun. However a bit of sympathy is not the same as support. In some previous referenda there has been a requirement that for change a simple majority is not sufficient and a minimum number of the electorate (normally around 45%) was also required. If those had been the rules for this referendum I would have supported them. But they weren't and we can't change the goal posts now after the result. The battle has been fought and lost. However much we may dislike and regret it Britain's future is now outside the EU, we have to accept that, but we can still fight for an open, inclusive, tolerant Britain outside the EU. After all some who voted Leave believe that is what they were voting for to. There not all 'little Englanders', xenophobes and racists.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

Wish there was a like button on here. Very well said "

I don't believe there will be a second referendum on this issue and I don't believe there should be either. That being said, I also don't believe we should have had this referendum. I believe that referendum seldom actually solve an issue one way or another.

However when we do have them I always vote for what I believe to the right and best thing. So, if there was a second referendum, I would still vote to remain as I still believe that Britain would be better of in the EU than it will be outside of the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

Wish there was a like button on here. Very well said

I don't believe there will be a second referendum on this issue and I don't believe there should be either. That being said, I also don't believe we should have had this referendum. I believe that referendum seldom actually solve an issue one way or another.

However when we do have them I always vote for what I believe to the right and best thing. So, if there was a second referendum, I would still vote to remain as I still believe that Britain would be better of in the EU than it will be outside of the EU."

First paragraph agree, second disagree.

Bottom line is that there are some values that if you don't subscribe to them you need to get the f out of Britain. One of them is respect for democracy. I'd rather keep our values than sell out just to get my own way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing is not exercising your right to vote.

Very different from all the FOREIGNERS in the UK working, paying taxes, having families who had NO RIGHT to contribute to such important decision.

Was that their choice? Those are probably most of the votes you will find amongst the 2.6 million signatures in this new petition!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process. "

I think there's a lot of people thinking that after seeing how bitter and ridiculously panicked the remain campaign have become...and if they all start to riot...they need rounding up and exporting...

fucking absurd initial reaction...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

I think there's a lot of people thinking that after seeing how bitter and ridiculously panicked the remain campaign have become...and if they all start to riot...they need rounding up and exporting...

fucking absurd initial reaction... "

Unlike what happened after the Scottish referendum?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

NEWS BREAKING!!!!

apparently we weren't future proof in the EU either..

NEWS BREAKING!!!!

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Won't happen, what's done is done!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"NEWS BREAKING!!!!

apparently we weren't future proof in the EU either..

NEWS BREAKING!!!!"

Eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"God. forbid."
actually healing a would with the EU has been forefront. 2nd ref, if you don't read the tabloids, is merely an option. Planning underway to ensure it can happen. Nothing more. Don't read the hype.

B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"NEWS BREAKING!!!!

apparently we weren't future proof in the EU either..

NEWS BREAKING!!!!

Eh?"

So immigrants infest this country?

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By *KMaxMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Do you mean Scotland?"

I don't know about that, but I think he means mooted.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

I think you need to be a Citizen to vote

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"One thing is not exercising your right to vote.

Very different from all the FOREIGNERS in the UK working, paying taxes, having families who had NO RIGHT to contribute to such important decision.

Was that their choice? Those are probably most of the votes you will find amongst the 2.6 million signatures in this new petition!! "

Nope were British citizens and on petition ..would like to see one when an out deal has been agreed so we can actually vote on what we are getting and not bullshit and lies ..

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

A petition for one as Been launched but there's already a petition it content it and it's gaining just as much weight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing is not exercising your right to vote.

Very different from all the FOREIGNERS in the UK working, paying taxes, having families who had NO RIGHT to contribute to such important decision.

Was that their choice? Those are probably most of the votes you will find amongst the 2.6 million signatures in this new petition!!

Nope were British citizens and on petition ..would like to see one when an out deal has been agreed so we can actually vote on what we are getting and not bullshit and lies .."

Arguably, if people weren't sure: happy they should have spoiled ballot or voted remain until they were told?

B

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

Wish there was a like button on here. Very well said

I don't believe there will be a second referendum on this issue and I don't believe there should be either. That being said, I also don't believe we should have had this referendum. I believe that referendum seldom actually solve an issue one way or another.

However when we do have them I always vote for what I believe to the right and best thing. So, if there was a second referendum, I would still vote to remain as I still believe that Britain would be better of in the EU than it will be outside of the EU.

First paragraph agree, second disagree.

Bottom line is that there are some values that if you don't subscribe to them you need to get the f out of Britain. One of them is respect for democracy. I'd rather keep our values than sell out just to get my own way. "

Actually the main advantage of living in a democracy is that you don't have to accept anything, just to agree to abide by the law of the land. If another referendum was called, even if I didn't agree with it being called - as I did not agree to this one being called either, I would still exercise my democratic right under law to vote for what I believed to be right and best.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"A petition for one as Been launched but there's already a petition it content it and it's gaining just as much weight "

* Counter it

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy. "
If people cannot be bothered to vote , why worry about them ?. It would probably make no difference to the result anyway .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

Wish there was a like button on here. Very well said

I don't believe there will be a second referendum on this issue and I don't believe there should be either. That being said, I also don't believe we should have had this referendum. I believe that referendum seldom actually solve an issue one way or another.

However when we do have them I always vote for what I believe to the right and best thing. So, if there was a second referendum, I would still vote to remain as I still believe that Britain would be better of in the EU than it will be outside of the EU.

First paragraph agree, second disagree.

Bottom line is that there are some values that if you don't subscribe to them you need to get the f out of Britain. One of them is respect for democracy. I'd rather keep our values than sell out just to get my own way.

Actually the main advantage of living in a democracy is that you don't have to accept anything, just to agree to abide by the law of the land. If another referendum was called, even if I didn't agree with it being called - as I did not agree to this one being called either, I would still exercise my democratic right under law to vote for what I believed to be right and best. "

You can't be forced to accept values no, that's why we call people 'sell outs' when they turn against values

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

It's "mooted" not "muted". Just saying. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I assume all the people thinking this petition thing can guarantee every one of those 2 million signatories are the same people who were eligible to vote IN that Referendum they are so bitter about?

No didn't think so. This Petition is looking like an extension of 'Social media' like Facebook and Twatter.

Can I start a petition to ban petitions ..??

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By *ervy_pendulatersCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"It's "mooted" not "muted". Just saying. X"

Beat us to it! It's one of those misquoted terms that drives us both nuts.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

Should people who work in Norway and pay our taxes be able to vote in Norway

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

I see things getting uglier by the end of the summer.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I see things getting uglier by the end of the summer."

Me too, unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see things getting uglier by the end of the summer.

Me too, unfortunately."

Jeez that's depressing, it's ugly now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see things getting uglier by the end of the summer.

Me too, unfortunately.

Jeez that's depressing, it's ugly now "

If you're referring to Marina Wheeler replacing Sam Cameron in number 10 then I think that's a bit harsh.

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them

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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago

Chester

I foresee doom and gloo..... oh wait, I have no qualifications in the world of international finance and I'm not a psychic. I therefore am unable to predict the future. Nobody else can either. Maybe we should just hope that things work out and try to heal the deep divide in our nation. What if we'd stayed in and the whole rotten edifice had gone tilt? It might have happened.... Nobody knows!!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Mooted, not muted I assume op.

A referendum with a stated minimum of the population voting is reasonable to consider.

And for definite plans to be laid open for each option, following counting.

Won't happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was watching sky news earlier and they showed pictures of david cameron, he haven't brushed his hair and he looked tired and lost. I think what he have done is finally realising what a huge mistake he did by doing this referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let it happen i say....best out of 3 wins

Lol.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-25/police-investigate-vermin-notes-aimed-at-polish-community/

Lol.

Why is that funny?

By BaldandWellEndowed72 OP Find posts by BaldandWellEndowed72 Man

8 hours ago

You are there. I am here.

I am not ashamed to admit this. The 2 main reasons why I voted to "leave" was because of the infestation of immigrants coming into the, United. Kingdom.

Which frankly is getting out of hand and secondly because of my patronism of the country I love.

Which is the, United. Kingdom. not Europe. or the (EU)."

Infestation...wow people are vermin and cockroaches now for you, did you parents fight against a man once who thaugh anyone without blonde hair and blue eyes was vermin...wow hitler won afterall.

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By *egionaireMan
over a year ago

ramsey

Hi your right Hitler did

win and we were being ruled by his daughter Angela Merkel with her puppets junker and Frances Francious allond

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just seen a petition for a battle of Hastings rematch since some people aren't happy with the outcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just seen a petition for a battle of Hastings rematch since some people aren't happy with the outcome "

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"God. forbid."

Instead of going though the process all over again, they should have just spend their effort in working to being successful in whatever situation (ie Japan post nuclear bombing) rather than continually arguing, debating and whining.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them"

Ooh, can you please tell me where Islam is ? I quite fancy going there on my holidays.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them

Ooh, can you please tell me where Islam is ? I quite fancy going there on my holidays. "

You made me spluttered my coffee..!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That krankie-faced Sturgeon just wants to be Prime Minister of Scotland. First minister sounds like a made-up post.

We should keep having referenda until the scots and the londoners get the result they want."

Lol! Yes. Perhaps with proven Remainers doing all the vote counting and getting paid large sums of money by the EU?

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By *anbraunMan
over a year ago

London


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them"

Please tell me you're on a wind up!?!?

So many levels I don't know where to start

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them"

I don't think that will happen, apparantly asylum trumps eu free movement, as a few of my afghan collegues took great joy in telling my lithuinian collegue it's time to pack his bags, on friday morning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

5000 NI supporters have signed a petition demanding a re-run of the game against Wales!

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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago

denton

football team got beat by a fluke goal, have to have a rematch, result is a result, we have to live with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always thought that it should have been sorted with Dave and Boris playing rock , paper , scissors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a farce, what morons vote and think that others will bail them out from their decision.

We voted out, end of story, if we have another referendum it'll just make a mockery of the whole process and show that the voting population of Britain are idiots.

We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wouldn't it be more prudent to get on with actually running the country now than faffing around with another referendum?

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By *KMaxMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"I always thought that it should have been sorted with Dave and Boris playing rock , paper , scissors."

Or Russian roulette.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wouldn't it be more prudent to get on with actually running the country now than faffing around with another referendum?"

All the bickering is just making us look incredibly incompetent.......

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA


"We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it."

When both sides come out with all the BS they have done and lied and twisted statistics to support their _iewpoint then i dont think the electorate are to blame. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they have behaved and i am not surprised that by some voters being confused. But i agree we need to move on

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy. "

They didn't moan when the tories were voted in with less.

I voted remain, in/out it doesn't make much difference to me in the grand scheme of things. I truly hope those that voted out get the utopian world they were promised.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process. "

I would too.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I see things getting uglier by the end of the summer."

Optimist!

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it.

When both sides come out with all the BS they have done and lied and twisted statistics to support their _iewpoint then i dont think the electorate are to blame. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they have behaved and i am not surprised that by some voters being confused. But i agree we need to move on "

Its the politicians that are to blame for talking crap but also the media who do the same and just show what they want to, this has forced the politicians into the sound byte and when you hear some of the things both sides were meant to have said you have to wonder if some voters have ears or can understand english

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it.

When both sides come out with all the BS they have done and lied and twisted statistics to support their _iewpoint then i dont think the electorate are to blame. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they have behaved and i am not surprised that by some voters being confused. But i agree we need to move on

Its the politicians that are to blame for talking crap but also the media who do the same and just show what they want to, this has forced the politicians into the sound byte and when you hear some of the things both sides were meant to have said you have to wonder if some voters have ears or can understand english"

I think the saddest/funniest thing I've read is the people of Cornwall voted out even though as one of the poorest areas in the country and ignored by Westminster received over £10bn from the EU over the last decade. They qualify for £60m from the EU annually.

How stupid then must you be to then say can we still have the £60m then start crying when told voting out means you no longer qualify.

Both sides set out their campaign in plain English. The people voted based on their own fears/aspirations etc. Brits abroad too lazy to vote crying now their European dream retirement not so rosy, those voting out "for a laugh" should get over themselves.

We all have to make it work and that's the challenge.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The price of Cornish pasties will increase

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"The price of Cornish pasties will increase "

We're all on a diet, so they're doomed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it.

When both sides come out with all the BS they have done and lied and twisted statistics to support their _iewpoint then i dont think the electorate are to blame. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they have behaved and i am not surprised that by some voters being confused. But i agree we need to move on

Its the politicians that are to blame for talking crap but also the media who do the same and just show what they want to, this has forced the politicians into the sound byte and when you hear some of the things both sides were meant to have said you have to wonder if some voters have ears or can understand english

I think the saddest/funniest thing I've read is the people of Cornwall voted out even though as one of the poorest areas in the country and ignored by Westminster received over £10bn from the EU over the last decade. They qualify for £60m from the EU annually.

How stupid then must you be to then say can we still have the £60m then start crying when told voting out means you no longer qualify.

Both sides set out their campaign in plain English. The people voted based on their own fears/aspirations etc. Brits abroad too lazy to vote crying now their European dream retirement not so rosy, those voting out "for a laugh" should get over themselves.

We all have to make it work and that's the challenge. "

Well said, let's work together and make it beneficial, it's going to be hard and tough but if we focus in the long run it'll be better.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

If anyone wants to look at what it really means, this Italian journalist does all the number crunching. It is not all doom and gloom for the UK and is a much more serious problem for the EU.

We will lose 1% of our GDP by leaving but stand to gain 10% growth in our GDP by being free from EU restrictions.

This is what the country needs to concentrate on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them"

Ohh wow, is that what you think the vote was about?

That quote is both sad and scary at the same time...

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

If anyone wants to look at what it really means, this Italian journalist does all the number crunching. It is not all doom and gloom for the UK and is a much more serious problem for the EU.

We will lose 1% of our GDP by leaving but stand to gain 10% growth in our GDP by being free from EU restrictions.

This is what the country needs to concentrate on. "

I have heard much about EU restrictions

Not aware of many that actually impact gdp though

I am aware of safety standards employee rights and product quality standards that should always exist ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

If anyone wants to look at what it really means, this Italian journalist does all the number crunching. It is not all doom and gloom for the UK and is a much more serious problem for the EU.

We will lose 1% of our GDP by leaving but stand to gain 10% growth in our GDP by being free from EU restrictions.

This is what the country needs to concentrate on. "

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By *omersetfun15Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them

Ohh wow, is that what you think the vote was about?

That quote is both sad and scary at the same time..."

Thats got to be a joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Suck it up on move on , 10millions didn't vote either ,

Sooner we move on the better for everyone and regain and lead the other 5 countries out of Europe

53% of France want a vote to leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just read that the guy who started the petition is a right wing nut and was convinced that Remain was going to win so he started it before the result was in. Even as a remain voter i was very against a 2nd vote as that would be undemocratic but would be a sweet irony now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it ever happened then this country is down the pan very quickly, markets would drop like a brick , investors will think twice before coming here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it ever happened then this country is down the pan very quickly, markets would drop like a brick , investors will think twice before coming here.

"

You mean like it is now??

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies "

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

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By *igertigerCouple (MM)
over a year ago

nr Letterkenny

time for a general election me thinks!!!

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over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years. "

You know full well that is all bollocks. It's what 'could' happen not what will happen and it's all very unlikely. There is also no markets we can't trade with unless you want us to get in bed with say Russia?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"time for a general election me thinks!!!"

Why would you like Charlie Haughy and Ben Dunne back?

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Wiggles is polish and is actually disgusted that the petition site sent her a copy to sign (as she has signed other petitions in past for autistic rights)

The very idea that as a non citizen, with no vote, that she can sign a petition and it be taken seriously to void a majority vote by those who had such rites makes no sence.

If there is a second referendum, I personally will never vote again in any uk election as it will prove that uk democracy is a sham.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"wouldn't it be more prudent to get on with actually running the country now than faffing around with another referendum?

All the bickering is just making us look incredibly incompetent......."

this..

what with some of the (accept its a minority ) nastier rhetoric during the campaign and now this i wouldn't be surprised if our neighbours in Europe may be looking at us and thinking what we are up to..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it.

When both sides come out with all the BS they have done and lied and twisted statistics to support their _iewpoint then i dont think the electorate are to blame. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they have behaved and i am not surprised that by some voters being confused. But i agree we need to move on

Its the politicians that are to blame for talking crap but also the media who do the same and just show what they want to, this has forced the politicians into the sound byte and when you hear some of the things both sides were meant to have said you have to wonder if some voters have ears or can understand english

I think the saddest/funniest thing I've read is the people of Cornwall voted out even though as one of the poorest areas in the country and ignored by Westminster received over £10bn from the EU over the last decade. They qualify for £60m from the EU annually.

How stupid then must you be to then say can we still have the £60m then start crying when told voting out means you no longer qualify.

Both sides set out their campaign in plain English. The people voted based on their own fears/aspirations etc. Brits abroad too lazy to vote crying now their European dream retirement not so rosy, those voting out "for a laugh" should get over themselves.

We all have to make it work and that's the challenge. "

this..

said when UKIP did well in Wales and now the vote that if they think Westminster (blue or 'red') will make up the funding now not coming from the EU then they are in for a shock..

disclaimer, before being called an unpatriotic whinger this is not sour grapes. Fully accepting of the decision, its time to come back together and make this work for us..

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them

Ohh wow, is that what you think the vote was about?

That quote is both sad and scary at the same time..."

It's what *some* people feel/believe as witnessed on these very same forums over the last few days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years. "

I never seen any lies from the remain campaign on the level of the leave..... Don't forget the 2 key men in the campaign, Johnson and Farage... History of lying. They kept harping on about putting money into the NHS, yet both of them have heavily campaigned to privatise it. As for GDP, that's speculation as leading economists have said the opposite.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

I never seen any lies from the remain campaign on the level of the leave..... Don't forget the 2 key men in the campaign, Johnson and Farage... History of lying. They kept harping on about putting money into the NHS, yet both of them have heavily campaigned to privatise it. As for GDP, that's speculation as leading economists have said the opposite. "

Conveniently forgetting the hidden man of Politics George Osborne threatening an emergency budget and to take away pensions if they voted to leave. Why have you ignored the figures I provided that show a much rosier future for the UK outside the EU?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies "

It was obviously untrue but people chose to believe it, so whatever happens tough titty, we just need to try and make this work.

I voted remain but don't think it should be rerun.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them

Ohh wow, is that what you think the vote was about?

That quote is both sad and scary at the same time...

It's what *some* people feel/believe as witnessed on these very same forums over the last few days."

agree that there are some people who will have brought the spin that an out vote would mean this but looking at the origin of this quote the poster is not in the UK, in the past he has come across as having a bit of an Irish nationalist leaning and i respect that _iew..

what he isn't is stupid enough to actually believe what he has posted as he has come across as well read and not lacking in intelligence in the past, he's either being ironic in that there were some and still are who may think his post is a possibility or he's on a plain old wind up..

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over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

I never seen any lies from the remain campaign on the level of the leave..... Don't forget the 2 key men in the campaign, Johnson and Farage... History of lying. They kept harping on about putting money into the NHS, yet both of them have heavily campaigned to privatise it. As for GDP, that's speculation as leading economists have said the opposite.

Conveniently forgetting the hidden man of Politics George Osborne threatening an emergency budget and to take away pensions if they voted to leave. Why have you ignored the figures I provided that show a much rosier future for the UK outside the EU?"

Pensions are going anyways thanks to successive failure of governments from both sides. By the time I get to retirement age it will be gone and no matter on or out that is going to happen. Be naive to think otherwise.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"time for a general election me thinks!!!"

And how would that help? The country is tearing itself apart as it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

I never seen any lies from the remain campaign on the level of the leave..... Don't forget the 2 key men in the campaign, Johnson and Farage... History of lying. They kept harping on about putting money into the NHS, yet both of them have heavily campaigned to privatise it. As for GDP, that's speculation as leading economists have said the opposite.

Conveniently forgetting the hidden man of Politics George Osborne threatening an emergency budget and to take away pensions if they voted to leave. Why have you ignored the figures I provided that show a much rosier future for the UK outside the EU?"

Why have you ignored my point that it's not true the figures you quoted. It's all hear say and maybe and unless you are the one writing the trade agreements you have no idea what the actual out come is going to be, no one does.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

I never seen any lies from the remain campaign on the level of the leave..... Don't forget the 2 key men in the campaign, Johnson and Farage... History of lying. They kept harping on about putting money into the NHS, yet both of them have heavily campaigned to privatise it. As for GDP, that's speculation as leading economists have said the opposite.

Conveniently forgetting the hidden man of Politics George Osborne threatening an emergency budget and to take away pensions if they voted to leave. Why have you ignored the figures I provided that show a much rosier future for the UK outside the EU?

Pensions are going anyways thanks to successive failure of governments from both sides. By the time I get to retirement age it will be gone and no matter on or out that is going to happen. Be naive to think otherwise. "

and you are basing your argument to remain on that?

The mind boggles

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over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

I never seen any lies from the remain campaign on the level of the leave..... Don't forget the 2 key men in the campaign, Johnson and Farage... History of lying. They kept harping on about putting money into the NHS, yet both of them have heavily campaigned to privatise it. As for GDP, that's speculation as leading economists have said the opposite.

Conveniently forgetting the hidden man of Politics George Osborne threatening an emergency budget and to take away pensions if they voted to leave. Why have you ignored the figures I provided that show a much rosier future for the UK outside the EU?

Pensions are going anyways thanks to successive failure of governments from both sides. By the time I get to retirement age it will be gone and no matter on or out that is going to happen. Be naive to think otherwise. and you are basing your argument to remain on that?

The mind boggles"

No that has nothing to do with my decision. We were dammed if we do and dammed if we don't on that front. I based it on actual experts and research.

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By *luemelonMan
over a year ago

Stourbridge


"Prof John Curtice said:

"How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

I think it's 2m now bit that's still only 12.5% of the people who voted to remain! Personally if there was another vote I would change my vote to leave out of respect for the democratic process.

I think there's a lot of people thinking that after seeing how bitter and ridiculously panicked the remain campaign have become...and if they all start to riot...they need rounding up and exporting...

fucking absurd initial reaction... "

Actually the most absurd initial reaction came from the leave campaign who started saying we could take as long as we liked to get the negotiations right before even starting the official process of leaving. Haven't seen anyone shit themselves so fast after winning a vote since Nick Clegg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are out end of, perhaps people in future will value their votes more and actually get clued up on the election/campaign before wasting it.

When both sides come out with all the BS they have done and lied and twisted statistics to support their _iewpoint then i dont think the electorate are to blame. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they have behaved and i am not surprised that by some voters being confused. But i agree we need to move on

Its the politicians that are to blame for talking crap but also the media who do the same and just show what they want to, this has forced the politicians into the sound byte and when you hear some of the things both sides were meant to have said you have to wonder if some voters have ears or can understand english

I think the saddest/funniest thing I've read is the people of Cornwall voted out even though as one of the poorest areas in the country and ignored by Westminster received over £10bn from the EU over the last decade. They qualify for £60m from the EU annually.

How stupid then must you be to then say can we still have the £60m then start crying when told voting out means you no longer qualify.

Both sides set out their campaign in plain English. The people voted based on their own fears/aspirations etc. Brits abroad too lazy to vote crying now their European dream retirement not so rosy, those voting out "for a laugh" should get over themselves.

We all have to make it work and that's the challenge.

this..

said when UKIP did well in Wales and now the vote that if they think Westminster (blue or 'red') will make up the funding now not coming from the EU then they are in for a shock..

disclaimer, before being called an unpatriotic whinger this is not sour grapes. Fully accepting of the decision, its time to come back together and make this work for us.. "

Yeah I was shocked by Wales and Cornwall too! Even the shires around London voted leave by a slight majority too, it was literally London, Scotland and N. Ireland v everyone else!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So my question is when we sending the Muslims back to Islam now we got our country back from them

Ohh wow, is that what you think the vote was about?

That quote is both sad and scary at the same time...

Thats got to be a joke "

I'm 90% sure it's a joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point some are making is that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually voted to leave the EU is that democratic enough for such a monumental decision. It's a valid question in a democracy. "

No it isn't! Those who chose not to vote abdicate their rights. They also have no right to comment. Forcing people to vote is as undemocratic as you can get. Those eligible to vote, who then chose to vote are the only ones with a say.

They voted out, wether we like it or not.

To everyone....suck it up and give over whinging!

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures


"No it hasn't. Some jump ties have started a petition. It will not happen.

One of the problems with EU is lack of democracy. Eire and Netherlands both had referenda on treaty.....voted no! EU told them...that's the wrong answer, please do it again!

We voted. We chose. Live with it. As for those who didn't vite....they chose to do so. They chose to give up any right to comment!

That's democracy!"

If we really cared about undemocratic institutions we'd have gotten rid of the house of lords and the queen years ago.

There are many and complex reasons why so many people voted out - but lack of democracy wasn't one of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies."
That is right, there should be another one as well as it is all based on lies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman went to a bar.

They all had to leave because the Englishman wanted to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.That is right, there should be another one as well as it is all based on lies."

Guys, the leave voters still have there fingers in there ears and the blindfold firmly on, until they actually lose there job or benefits ends they won't listen to reason, the leave lies are falling apart already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Yeah I was shocked by Wales and Cornwall too! Even the shires around London voted leave by a slight majority too, it was literally London, Scotland and N. Ireland v everyone else!! "

Well life is good in London and the power is there and all the money so why change when you are feeling good. And don't forget they just elected a full on Leftie who supported Remain. London was always going to vote Remain. In fact they didn't by as much as the 'experts' predicted.

As for Scotland well they are still in SNP La La Land where everything good comes from Holyrood and everything bad comes from Westminster. But as soon as the Scots themselves have to start paying the £15 Bn a year us English (that they revile so much) have been paying out for them the SNP bubble will burst. As of last month the SNP will have to balance the books and do so by taxes on the Scots people. what I think is utterly shameful is the speed at which Sturgeon sought to cause mischief and even more uncertainty, acted way above her authority and immediately raised the independence smokescreen to hide her failures in Government. And now she is threatening to block the democratic will of the people of the UK by refusing to pass the required legislation. She won't need a referendum we will kick them out. enough is enough.

And are we really surprised that the Republicans (like the SNP) are using this uncertainty for their stated aims of a united Ireland? Given the cash we put into Ulster I don't think the Irish will want to take it back.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"

An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman went to a bar.

They all had to leave because the Englishman wanted to go."

The Scotsman and the Irishman voted too.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

And ..... it's mooted not muted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman went to a bar.

They all had to leave because the Englishman wanted to go."

You forgot the Welshman and he wanted to leave as well...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.That is right, there should be another one as well as it is all based on lies.

Guys, the leave voters still have there fingers in there ears and the blindfold firmly on, until they actually lose there job or benefits ends they won't listen to reason, the leave lies are falling apart already "

If there is a 2nd one then I would not bother to vote so theres one that would be in you're favour.

I have had my say but it's up to the government now to eityher accept the will of the majority or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.That is right, there should be another one as well as it is all based on lies."

Can I suggest you move to anywhere else in the Eu because you clearly like the EU principles of democracy: have a referendum and then keep having them until you get the result you want. Ask the Irish, French, Danish and Dutch...

I had to endure 13 years of a Labour Government I never voted for. Indeed the whole of my region never voted for. Should we have had a rerun of those elections?

Suck it up Sweetcheeks and grow a pair. Its done. Move on. Nothing to see.

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures

Worth pointing out that the particular petition for a second referendum that has gained so many votes was started a month before the result came in

By a leave campaigner

He said if the the turnout was less than 75% and the winning side got less than 60% of the vote it should trigger a second vote.

He was probably parroting Nigel Fiasc....Fascis.... Farrage who made it clear that a 48-52 vote would be - in his words - "unfinished business"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

god help the UK (what will be left of it)and heres hoping we get to have a band playing rule Britannia as the ship sinks !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.That is right, there should be another one as well as it is all based on lies.

Can I suggest you move to anywhere else in the Eu because you clearly like the EU principles of democracy: have a referendum and then keep having them until you get the result you want. Ask the Irish, French, Danish and Dutch...

I had to endure 13 years of a Labour Government I never voted for. Indeed the whole of my region never voted for. Should we have had a rerun of those elections?

Suck it up Sweetcheeks and grow a pair. Its done. Move on. Nothing to see."

Yes I do like the eu and we will be moving in few years, you do know the leave don't got a plan for the uk? Come back in a years time and see if you think the same when uk is begin to come back and is on its knees, in the mean time we have to live with the consequences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

If anyone wants to look at what it really means, this Italian journalist does all the number crunching. It is not all doom and gloom for the UK and is a much more serious problem for the EU.

We will lose 1% of our GDP by leaving but stand to gain 10% growth in our GDP by being free from EU restrictions.

This is what the country needs to concentrate on. "

Not seen the article but I REALLY hope he's right! I voted to remain as I think it's better for future generations - but nothing would please me more than to be proved wrong!

I'm over the shock now - we all should be - now it's time to get on with it and make sure this country stays great - and that those immigrants legally here are made to feel welcome and included, not part of the problem! Xx

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years. "

Actually that's statistically incorrect. The EU has grown every year for the last 10 years. That growth has been between 0.1% and 0.6%. Agreed not great growth but still growth, unlike what you stated which was that it hadn't grown for 10 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.

They announced less than 24 hours later that money they could save could back into the NHS and immigration can be controlled......since the vote they have now said the opposite...they swayed voters on lies

What about all the lies from the remain side, should we conveniently discount those because they don't fit your argument?

The fact is EU stand to lose much more than we do by us leaving. Our GDP will drop by 1% (but stand to gain 10% growth by being able to trade freely in markets previously denied to us by EU barriers) from leaving the EU which hasn't shown any growth in 10 years.

Actually that's statistically incorrect. The EU has grown every year for the last 10 years. That growth has been between 0.1% and 0.6%. Agreed not great growth but still growth, unlike what you stated which was that it hadn't grown for 10 years."

Are those figures factoring in inflation? Growth was negative for 2009, 2012 & 2013.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Sturgeon has now said she will refuse to let the UK leave the EU.... Really?

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

And she says that she has a right to call another independence vote, seeing as the majority of Scots voted to remain... ffs, get a grip you daft woman, you are not a big player on the world political stage, stop trying to act all that, you daft cow!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sturgeon has now said she will refuse to let the UK leave the EU.... Really?

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

And she says that she has a right to call another independence vote, seeing as the majority of Scots voted to remain... ffs, get a grip you daft woman, you are not a big player on the world political stage, stop trying to act all that, you daft cow! "

It's her job to be a daft cow and say stupid things - leave her alone

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By *rryTMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Sturgeon has now said she will refuse to let the UK leave the EU.... Really?

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

And she says that she has a right to call another independence vote, seeing as the majority of Scots voted to remain... ffs, get a grip you daft woman, you are not a big player on the world political stage, stop trying to act all that, you daft cow! "

It's not about being a big player it's about doing her job and looking after her people...who very clearly voted to stay

I don't blame her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Yeah I was shocked by Wales and Cornwall too! Even the shires around London voted leave by a slight majority too, it was literally London, Scotland and N. Ireland v everyone else!!

Well life is good in London and the power is there and all the money so why change when you are feeling good. And don't forget they just elected a full on Leftie who supported Remain. London was always going to vote Remain. In fact they didn't by as much as the 'experts' predicted.

As for Scotland well they are still in SNP La La Land where everything good comes from Holyrood and everything bad comes from Westminster. But as soon as the Scots themselves have to start paying the £15 Bn a year us English (that they revile so much) have been paying out for them the SNP bubble will burst. As of last month the SNP will have to balance the books and do so by taxes on the Scots people. what I think is utterly shameful is the speed at which Sturgeon sought to cause mischief and even more uncertainty, acted way above her authority and immediately raised the independence smokescreen to hide her failures in Government. And now she is threatening to block the democratic will of the people of the UK by refusing to pass the required legislation. She won't need a referendum we will kick them out. enough is enough.

And are we really surprised that the Republicans (like the SNP) are using this uncertainty for their stated aims of a united Ireland? Given the cash we put into Ulster I don't think the Irish will want to take it back."

lol now this post above does make you laugh

but to be fair, life can be good in London even although you may have to pay well over a £million for a 2 bedroom flat lol

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In Scotland half a million can get you a lovely five bedroom, 5 reception new villa with an acre of land and excellent _iews.

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With so much hatred you obviously have for the Scots and the way you say you will "kick us out" sure indicates you have a huge "chip on your shoulder"

I don't think you really mean life is great, as you are obviously upset about the Scots

learn to chill and enjoy life, be nice, be kind, in fact why not come up and visit Scotland, see what you are missing

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not a question whether the republic of Ireland want the North back to us again or not but a lot of the people living in the North don't want to be back with the Irish republic, they want to be part of the UK, to be part of English rule.....

...... so it's not a question of us just taking the North back, it's not as easy as that unfortunately....

..... while the North voted to stay in the EU, they are still part of the UK & as the majority of the UK voted to leave they too will unfortunately have to leave the EU too.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism."

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come "

Yes, scotland is the place to be in.

Wont be long till civil war will start in the uk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come Yes, scotland is the place to be in.

Wont be long till civil war will start in the uk."

Absolute rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sturgeon has now said she will refuse to let the UK leave the EU.... Really?

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

And she says that she has a right to call another independence vote, seeing as the majority of Scots voted to remain... ffs, get a grip you daft woman, you are not a big player on the world political stage, stop trying to act all that, you daft cow! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come Yes, scotland is the place to be in.

Wont be long till civil war will start in the uk.

Absolute rubbish "

What is?.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Civil war

It's still raining here, they won't riot if it's wet

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Civil war

It's still raining here, they won't riot if it's wet "

Pmsl

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"There should be a second referendum based merely on the fact that, two of the leave campaigns main issues have been lies.That is right, there should be another one as well as it is all based on lies.

Can I suggest you move to anywhere else in the Eu because you clearly like the EU principles of democracy: have a referendum and then keep having them until you get the result you want. Ask the Irish, French, Danish and Dutch...

I had to endure 13 years of a Labour Government I never voted for. Indeed the whole of my region never voted for. Should we have had a rerun of those elections?

Suck it up Sweetcheeks and grow a pair. Its done. Move on. Nothing to see.Yes I do like the eu and we will be moving in few years, you do know the leave don't got a plan for the uk? Come back in a years time and see if you think the same when uk is begin to come back and is on its knees, in the mean time we have to live with the consequences."

It is highly unlikely that the UK will be on its knees . Many businneses will be unaffected. Leaving will also helo businnesses .

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By *hatsthisMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Do you mean Scotland?

EU. referendum. I see yes, yeah we have to live with the consequences the brexitors made, now on the news they inter_iew few leavers saying they almost regretting the vote as they thought it would be a remain."

Sanity

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

I'm surprised Farage isn't calling for a 2nd referendum!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing is not exercising your right to vote.

Very different from all the FOREIGNERS in the UK working, paying taxes, having families who had NO RIGHT to contribute to such important decision.

Was that their choice? Those are probably most of the votes you will find amongst the 2.6 million signatures in this new petition!!

Nope were British citizens and on petition ..would like to see one when an out deal has been agreed so we can actually vote on what we are getting and not bullshit and lies .."

This is my current issue, there is obviously no sodding contingency plan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come Yes, scotland is the place to be in.

Wont be long till civil war will start in the uk."

Please forgive my being blunt but your recent posts have been rather inane and ignorant. You seem to be trawling the t'internet for every morsel of news that proves you were right.

17.3 million people have voted in a majority for the UK to leave the EU. Thats it. Finish. There is nothing more to add... But I note you are leaving the UK soon anyway ... happy travels.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come Yes, scotland is the place to be in.

Wont be long till civil war will start in the uk.

Please forgive my being blunt but your recent posts have been rather inane and ignorant. You seem to be trawling the t'internet for every morsel of news that proves you were right.

17.3 million people have voted in a majority for the UK to leave the EU. Thats it. Finish. There is nothing more to add... But I note you are leaving the UK soon anyway ... happy travels."

yeah I agree hes usually quite a humorous poster but since the referendum result all ive seen him post is doom and gloom BS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because everyone believes in democracy until they dont get their own way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Latest sky news:

Attacks have started in london and in the Polish ctr in Hammersmith smeared with graffiti overnight. First attack in its 50 yr history.

Immigrants are being told to go home and sent hate mail as evidence mounts that post-Brexit racism has hit the streets of the UK.

If they don't stop uk will see less and less tourism.

Americans are still coming to Scotland, and now with the exchange rate falling, more will come Yes, scotland is the place to be in.

Wont be long till civil war will start in the uk.

Please forgive my being blunt but your recent posts have been rather inane and ignorant. You seem to be trawling the t'internet for every morsel of news that proves you were right.

17.3 million people have voted in a majority for the UK to leave the EU. Thats it. Finish. There is nothing more to add... But I note you are leaving the UK soon anyway ... happy travels.

yeah I agree hes usually quite a humorous poster but since the referendum result all ive seen him post is doom and gloom BS."

It was on the news and ofcourse if a brexitor is replying to a comment they will see it in another way tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i agree all you `remain` voters need to grow up and back this country and the majority of it who voted to exit.just cus it didn`t go your way.The 17 million people including myself who voted to exit did so to make things better.not to inconvenience your life.quit with the doom n gloom jeeeez

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"i agree all you `remain` voters need to grow up and back this country and the majority of it who voted to exit.just cus it didn`t go your way.The 17 million people including myself who voted to exit did so to make things better.not to inconvenience your life.quit with the doom n gloom jeeeez"

Then exit already, what you waiting for?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"i agree all you `remain` voters need to grow up and back this country and the majority of it who voted to exit.just cus it didn`t go your way.The 17 million people including myself who voted to exit did so to make things better.not to inconvenience your life.quit with the doom n gloom jeeeez"

no, I don't..... I haven't voiced any

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because everyone believes in democracy until they dont get their own way "
think it runs a bit deeper than that tbh

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It's an important issue and is like to say

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over a year ago


"i agree all you `remain` voters need to grow up and back this country and the majority of it who voted to exit.just cus it didn`t go your way.The 17 million people including myself who voted to exit did so to make things better.not to inconvenience your life.quit with the doom n gloom jeeeez"

Having a second referendum is bonkers , however the petition was originally set up by a member of the leave side before the referendum, also Farage is on record as saying if the vote to remain is close , he would push for another referendum. Both sides are wankers tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because everyone believes in democracy until they dont get their own way think it runs a bit deeper than that tbh "

But its the truth. Its no good saying we shouldnt have a vote after the fact whats done is done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" now this post above does make you laugh

but to be fair, life can be good in London even although you may have to pay well over a £million for a 2 bedroom flat lol

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In Scotland half a million can get you a lovely five bedroom, 5 reception new villa with an acre of land and excellent _iews.

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With so much hatred you obviously have for the Scots and the way you say you will "kick us out" sure indicates you have a huge "chip on your shoulder"

I don't think you really mean life is great, as you are obviously upset about the Scots

learn to chill and enjoy life, be nice, be kind, in fact why not come up and visit Scotland, see what you are missing "

Do please read my words again as I suspect you didn't quite understand my point. Did I criticise the Scottish people or Scotland? No I didn't. My beef is with that woman who is First Minister and her making mischief with everything at this critical time. In fact I inferred some sympathy for the Scots for when her policies start to hit their wallets. Or Sporrans or wherever.

Her hypocrisy is staggering. On the one hand she says the Scots voted to Remain (forgetting the 1 Million who actually voted to Leave) and that means the majority rules and yet on the other she ignores the 17.3 Million who gave a UK majority to leave. One majority rules in Scotland but not in the UK. Unbelievable.

What she is REALLY engaged in is Project Smokescreen as she knows she cannot rely on us English to fund her deficits any more now she has full fiscal powers and has to balance the books. That £15 Bn is worth some £3,000 for every man, woman and child in Scotland. That is going to hurt the poor and the weak first.

I know Scotland is a great place more than you know and that is also why I am annoyed, angry even, at her antics. I respect the fact that the SNP are the elected Government. I respected their right to have a referendum which they held. What is totally wrong is to peddle the lie that the poor Scots never knew there was a possibility of the UK leaving the EU when they HAD that referendum. Or that they were assured a vote to stay in the UK was a guarantee of remaining in the EU. A total barefaced pack of lies by this woman. The Scots knew for 18 months before their referendum in Sept. 2014 there would be an EU referendum if the Tories won in May 2015.

And now she is getting way above her office by engaging directly with EU officials. Foreign Policy of the UK is handled by Westminster. It is not a devolved power.

And to cap it all she is threatening to block the passage of any Brexit legislation. Again showing her ignorance (or ability to lie) as the Scottish Parliament does not have that power. Personally if she carries on like this I think someone should tell her that we could repeal the Act of Union and set the Scots free...

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