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Its the Nicola Sturgeon Show ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Forgive the rant but .....

Is it just me or is anyone else getting slightly tired of the airtime given to a woman who seeks to exploit every situation for her benefit? Not every Scot voted for the SNP at the last General or Scottish elections. Over a million Scots voted for 'Leave' in the Referendum. It wasn't an area vote it was a numerical UK vote. And yet she now says:

"We will seek to enter into immediate discussions with the EU institutions and other EU member states to explore all possible options to protect Scotland's place in the EU."

What place is that? The people of Scotland voted to be in the UK. She lost that vote. But just like the EU she so loves she thinks the Scottish people need to be allowed / told to vote correctly.

Who the hell does she think she is? She represents about 8% (5 Mn) of the UK population and leads a country that is subsidised to the tune of £15 Bn last year from the English she seeks to revile and abuse. And yet we see her popping up at every opportunity.

Anyone else agree its time for Nicola to just be quiet?

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By *ewels74Woman
over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

Thank you your saying constantly what's in my head a lot,im scared as hell of the future really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive the rant but .....

Is it just me or is anyone else getting slightly tired of the airtime given to a woman who seeks to exploit every situation for her benefit? Not every Scot voted for the SNP at the last General or Scottish elections. Over a million Scots voted for 'Leave' in the Referendum. It wasn't an area vote it was a numerical UK vote. And yet she now says:

"We will seek to enter into immediate discussions with the EU institutions and other EU member states to explore all possible options to protect Scotland's place in the EU."

What place is that? The people of Scotland voted to be in the UK. She lost that vote. But just like the EU she so loves she thinks the Scottish people need to be allowed / told to vote correctly.

Who the hell does she think she is? She represents about 8% (5 Mn) of the UK population and leads a country that is subsidised to the tune of £15 Bn last year from the English she seeks to revile and abuse. And yet we see her popping up at every opportunity.

Anyone else agree its time for Nicola to just be quiet?"

a) You want her to be quiet because you disagree with her?

d) She's the First Minister of Scotland - I'd expect her to speak out.

c) I have seen absolutely no revile or abuse from her.

d) I think it's unlikely that the Scots will want another referendum, nor vote leave if they do.....but hey, what the hell do I know these days?

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Thank you your saying constantly what's in my head a lot,im scared as hell of the future really"

Your not the only one!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She should protect the interests of the Scottish, whether that be in the UK or in the EU. She is correct that there has been a material change since the Scottish referendum. It should be up to the Scottish people to decide what they want now, and it's her job to protect those interests.

People who supported the EU referendum should be applauding her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me. I just don't know what the bloody hell she is hoping to achieve. I think she probably just needs a good sex session or 2. Might calm her down a bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Democracy in action. Fight for what you think is right!

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

She's the leader of Scotland reflecting the will of the Scottish people on the EU result. Whether that means another independence vote time and the oil price will tell.

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By *ancyDrewWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Why are you so worried about Sturgeon. She is a leader of a UK party. Maybe you are just embarrassed that English party leaders are so wet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive the rant but .....

Is it just me or is anyone else getting slightly tired of the airtime given to a woman who seeks to exploit every situation for her benefit? Not every Scot voted for the SNP at the last General or Scottish elections. Over a million Scots voted for 'Leave' in the Referendum. It wasn't an area vote it was a numerical UK vote. And yet she now says:

"We will seek to enter into immediate discussions with the EU institutions and other EU member states to explore all possible options to protect Scotland's place in the EU."

What place is that? The people of Scotland voted to be in the UK. She lost that vote. But just like the EU she so loves she thinks the Scottish people need to be allowed / told to vote correctly.

Who the hell does she think she is? She represents about 8% (5 Mn) of the UK population and leads a country that is subsidised to the tune of £15 Bn last year from the English she seeks to revile and abuse. And yet we see her popping up at every opportunity.

Anyone else agree its time for Nicola to just be quiet?"

Agree she is scared and most Scots do not want independence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She should protect the interests of the Scottish, whether that be in the UK or in the EU. She is correct that there has been a material change since the Scottish referendum. It should be up to the Scottish people to decide what they want now, and it's her job to protect those interests.

People who supported the EU referendum should be applauding her."

But out of the UK she would never get back in the EU

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"Why are you so worried about Sturgeon. She is a leader of a UK party. Maybe you are just embarrassed that English party leaders are so wet."

Corbyn is a huge embarrassment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I want to know how much bloody hairspray she uses

That Barnet looks as stiff as concrete

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She should protect the interests of the Scottish, whether that be in the UK or in the EU. She is correct that there has been a material change since the Scottish referendum. It should be up to the Scottish people to decide what they want now, and it's her job to protect those interests.

People who supported the EU referendum should be applauding her.

But out of the UK she would never get back in the EU"

All she has to do is think positively and all international law will fall by the wayside.

Apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was lead to believe that the Scots knew there would be a future EU referendum when they voted to remain in the UK?

Thus meaning they were agreeing to the process...

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I think Scotland have a right to try again for independence after all what they voted to stay with has changed significantly in the last week, however, if I was Scotland I might want to wait a bit to see how things go over the next couple of years. There is a lot of unrest with the whole European project within Europe now and Scotland may just find itself leaving the Union just in time to join Europe as it fragments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She should protect the interests of the Scottish, whether that be in the UK or in the EU. She is correct that there has been a material change since the Scottish referendum. It should be up to the Scottish people to decide what they want now, and it's her job to protect those interests.

People who supported the EU referendum should be applauding her.

But out of the UK she would never get back in the EU"

She should get the chance to discuss that with the EU, then. I don't make these decisions and neither do you. And so I think she is doing what she has to do, and I don't begrudge her the job she has, whatever way it goes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nicola. Sturgeon. was a "swinger" in her youth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no great follower of politics or Nicola sturgeon and don't believe in using Google to try make myself appear to know what I'm talking about but....

Would an independent Scotland be accepted into the EU?

Could they survive on their own, e.g price of oil is still quite low at $47 and won't last forever.

Would Scottish people want to accept the Euro as their currency?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why are you so worried about Sturgeon. She is a leader of a UK party. Maybe you are just embarrassed that English party leaders are so wet.

Corbyn is a huge embarrassment "

and now he comes out with needs for restrictions on immigration . Bit late Jez.

wonder when people will start calling him a little Englander racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see Scotland going soon

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"I'm no great follower of politics or Nicola sturgeon and don't believe in using Google to try make myself appear to know what I'm talking about but....

Would an independent Scotland be accepted into the EU?

Could they survive on their own, e.g price of oil is still quite low at $47 and won't last forever.

Would Scottish people want to accept the Euro as their currency? "

No we couldn't and there have been hundreds of job loses up here since the oil has crashed. The price of property has decreased by at least 10% so yeah she really knows what is best for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She's a little Krankie

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I find her gloating unbecoming and naked ambition alarming.

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By *ancyDrewWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

The reality of the situation is that Sturgeon is finding out what the options are. Like the Brexit, it clearly isn't happening overnight. If she - or any other leader of Scotland wasn't doing this, then I think we could criticise her.

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

It is her job to do and say these things ...lets not forget the name of her party independence is what it stands for and the scottish people put her and the snp into government ..yes alot of scots would prefer to remain part of the Uk and dont want another referendum ..but a big part of the better together argument was to guarantee our eu membership we had to vote to stay withing the uk ..how did that work out for us ...for another indy ref to go ahead Nicola has a duty to speak to the Eu and come back to the scottish people with assurances from the Eu that an independant scotland would be more than welcome within the EU..without that assurance ..there will be no referendum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't fault her logic and the SNP were elected on their manifesto promises which included another referendum in the event of a substantial change, including the UK voting out of the EU.

Personally? I don't want Scotland to go and I find Ms Fish a bit irksome (though I can't fault her as a politician).

On the whole, I don't think anyone in the UK has much appetite left for yet another referendum.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

She says she wants the chance to be part of a larger country union with legislation by faceless officials based in a country miles away .... hold on ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe all the ballot papers should have been put together in one big pot and counted from there so that nobody knew where the votes had come from, other than that they were from citizens of the UK

save a bit of arguing

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


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Corbyn is a huge embarrassment

and now he comes out with needs for restrictions on immigration . Bit late Jez.

"

FFS dont blame me for that as well

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Maybe all the ballot papers should have been put together in one big pot and counted from there so that nobody knew where the votes had come from, other than that they were from citizens of the UK

save a bit of arguing"

I agree.

The votes was for every individual in the UK and should be counted as such.

All I've seen last 24 hours is statistics of age groups,locations etc.

Anonymous voting should be exactly that anonymous.

All that needed to be said was 17 milllion voted out, 16 million voted to remain.

Leave it at that... It would stop all this bickering and people turning on each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Corbyn is a huge embarrassment

and now he comes out with needs for restrictions on immigration . Bit late Jez.

FFS dont blame me for that as well

"

oops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe all the ballot papers should have been put together in one big pot and counted from there so that nobody knew where the votes had come from, other than that they were from citizens of the UK

save a bit of arguing

I agree.

The votes was for every individual in the UK and should be counted as such.

All I've seen last 24 hours is statistics of age groups,locations etc.

Anonymous voting should be exactly that anonymous.

All that needed to be said was 17 milllion voted out, 16 million voted to remain.

Leave it at that... It would stop all this bickering and people turning on each other."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe all the ballot papers should have been put together in one big pot and counted from there so that nobody knew where the votes had come from, other than that they were from citizens of the UK

save a bit of arguing"

You just made the point I was trying to make but in a better way.

We should never have known where the votes came form. I mean should we have had our ages on our ballot?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scotland wouldn't be rejoining the EU it would be staying in the EU. As per greenland precident -

Greenland, as a part of Denmark was part of the EU until 1982 when they voted to leave although still being a part of Denmark which remained in the EU. This set a precedent that one part if a sovereign nation can remain in the EU despite another part being separate.

Also regards being a number game and not regional.

Every single region in scotland voted to stay.

Every single one.

The referendum was won with a promise that turned out to be a lie, and the threat of not being able to stay in the Eu.

Both now changed, time for a vote.

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By *andyfloss7Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

we do were out of the eu so lets just get on with it

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"I was lead to believe that the Scots knew there would be a future EU referendum when they voted to remain in the UK?

Thus meaning they were agreeing to the process..."

No the EU referendum was not on the table during the Scottish referendum. Scotland voted to remain part of the uk and a major part of what Scots voted for was the Uk which was part of the EU. That has been taken away now despite Scotland clearly voting twice to remain as part of the EU. Once in their independence vote and secondly last week in thr EU vote. They are being ignored and are rightly furious.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

well it did say explicitly in the snp manifesto that if there was a substantive change ie scotland voting to stay in by a large margin, but the uk voting out in any EU referendum (and bless them because that was the actual example they used!) that would be cause for another referendum on independence....

the conservatives honoured their manifesto promise... i would hope the snp honoured theirs

and i find it quite ironic that in these heady days of new found democracy... he is trying to stifle others from having theirs... and telling people he doesn't agree with to "pipe down".....

so it only be democracy on those subjects you agree with OP?

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Why are you so worried about Sturgeon. She is a leader of a UK party. Maybe you are just embarrassed that English party leaders are so wet.

Corbyn is a huge embarrassment

and now he comes out with needs for restrictions on immigration . Bit late Jez.

wonder when people will start calling him a little Englander racist"

He has been saying that for a while. You just didn't listen.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"well it did say explicitly in the snp manifesto that if there was a substantive change ie scotland voting to stay in by a large margin, but the uk voting out in any EU referendum (and bless them because that was the actual example they used!) that would be cause for another referendum on independence....

the conservatives honoured their manifesto promise... i would hope the snp honoured theirs

and i find it quite ironic that in these heady days of new found democracy... he is trying to stifle others from having theirs... and telling people he doesn't agree with to "pipe down".....

so it only be democracy on those subjects you agree with OP?"

That's how democracy works. If it is in your favour it is democratic otherwise it is a fix.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Scotland wouldn't be rejoining the EU it would be staying in the EU. As per greenland precident -

Greenland, as a part of Denmark was part of the EU until 1982 when they voted to leave although still being a part of Denmark which remained in the EU. This set a precedent that one part if a sovereign nation can remain in the EU despite another part being separate.

Also regards being a number game and not regional.

Every single region in scotland voted to stay.

Every single one.

The referendum was won with a promise that turned out to be a lie, and the threat of not being able to stay in the Eu.

Both now changed, time for a vote.

"

So why did over a million Scots vote to Leave? It was not a 'regional' or Constituency vote. It was a binary vote 'Remain' or 'Leave'. One vote would have carried the result.

Following your logic then We in east Anglia should have asked for a referendum when we had 13 years of Labour Governement we never voted for?

Sorry but you Scots KNEW there would be an EU Referendum when you voted on Independence and you voted to 'Remain'. That EU Refendum has now taken place. And the whole of the UK (which you voted to remain part of) has voted to leave the EU.

And can I gently point out you 1.7 Mn Scots voting to 'Remain' were outvoted by a ratio of 10 to one by the UK 'Leave' side which included a million Scots. By any measure that is a very sound margin of defeat.

But by all means jog off into the North Sea on your own if you truly believe you can survive without the £15 Bn a year we English give you ....

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Scotland wouldn't be rejoining the EU it would be staying in the EU. As per greenland precident -

Greenland, as a part of Denmark was part of the EU until 1982 when they voted to leave although still being a part of Denmark which remained in the EU. This set a precedent that one part if a sovereign nation can remain in the EU despite another part being separate.

Also regards being a number game and not regional.

Every single region in scotland voted to stay.

Every single one.

The referendum was won with a promise that turned out to be a lie, and the threat of not being able to stay in the Eu.

Both now changed, time for a vote.

So why did over a million Scots vote to Leave? It was not a 'regional' or Constituency vote. It was a binary vote 'Remain' or 'Leave'. One vote would have carried the result.

Following your logic then We in east Anglia should have asked for a referendum when we had 13 years of Labour Governement we never voted for?

Sorry but you Scots KNEW there would be an EU Referendum when you voted on Independence and you voted to 'Remain'. That EU Refendum has now taken place. And the whole of the UK (which you voted to remain part of) has voted to leave the EU.

And can I gently point out you 1.7 Mn Scots voting to 'Remain' were outvoted by a ratio of 10 to one by the UK 'Leave' side which included a million Scots. By any measure that is a very sound margin of defeat.

But by all means jog off into the North Sea on your own if you truly believe you can survive without the £15 Bn a year we English give you ...."

The EU referendum was not known about when Scotland voted.

Therefore you are wrong to say they voted knowing it was coming. The opposite. Scotland was sold the UK on the basis that it was the best chance to stay in the EU.

Please stop spreading lies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually.. Nicola sturgeon:p aunty lived close by us when i was a kid and she was a pain as a kid too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive the rant but .....

Is it just me or is anyone else getting slightly tired of the airtime given to a woman who seeks to exploit every situation for her benefit? Not every Scot voted for the SNP at the last General or Scottish elections. Over a million Scots voted for 'Leave' in the Referendum. It wasn't an area vote it was a numerical UK vote. And yet she now says:

"We will seek to enter into immediate discussions with the EU institutions and other EU member states to explore all possible options to protect Scotland's place in the EU."

What place is that? The people of Scotland voted to be in the UK. She lost that vote. But just like the EU she so loves she thinks the Scottish people need to be allowed / told to vote correctly.

Who the hell does she think she is? She represents about 8% (5 Mn) of the UK population and leads a country that is subsidised to the tune of £15 Bn last year from the English she seeks to revile and abuse. And yet we see her popping up at every opportunity.

Anyone else agree its time for Nicola to just be quiet?"

NO!,,Most scots voted snp,most voted remain

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"well it did say explicitly in the snp manifesto that if there was a substantive change ie scotland voting to stay in by a large margin, but the uk voting out in any EU referendum (and bless them because that was the actual example they used!) that would be cause for another referendum on independence....

the conservatives honoured their manifesto promise... i would hope the snp honoured theirs

and i find it quite ironic that in these heady days of new found democracy... he is trying to stifle others from having theirs... and telling people he doesn't agree with to "pipe down".....

so it only be democracy on those subjects you agree with OP?"

No. All through these discussions I have sided with democracy. Indeed I am saying that we have had the democratic will of the UK population made clear. It is to leave the EU. That is it. End of.

My point was that this woman gets undue air time given the size of the country of which she is First Minister. She seizes every opportunity, no matter how damaging that may be, to peddle the independence argument. An argument she and her SNP have lost by a big margin. She is, coincidentally, doing exactly what the EU does when a referendum goes against it. It demands another referendum.

The Scottish people knew, and had known for some time, there would be an EU Referendum when they voted to remain part of the UK. Whether they assumed too much isn't the point. That is the simple fact. THEY had a referendum, she lost and didn't like it. WE have now had that EU referendum, she lost and didn't like it. So now seeks to make mischief at a critical time for the UK which includes Scotland regardless of what damage that will cause her own people.

Please don't confuse democracy with naked and corrupt political ambition ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Please don't confuse democracy with naked and corrupt political ambition ...."

*Cough* Nigel Boris

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" The EU referendum was not known about when Scotland voted.

Therefore you are wrong to say they voted knowing it was coming. The opposite. Scotland was sold the UK on the basis that it was the best chance to stay in the EU.

Please stop spreading lies. "

Before you call people liars make damn sure they do not have the facts to prove YOUR statements are .. err... misleading.

January 2013:

Cameron announces there will be a referendum on EU membership by the end of 2017 if the Tories win the General election in May 2015.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33141819

It remained a large part of the pre-election discussions and debate until that General Election. In which the Scots took part if I recall. Oh yes. TheSNP were only the 5th highest popular vote but still got 56 MPs.... Hmmmm

21st March 2013:

The SNP announce there will be a referendum on Scottish Independence in September 2014.

So the Scots knew (or should have known) for some 18 months before they voted. And oddly enough Nicola never asked for another referendum when the EU Referendum Law was made known in the Queens Speech in May 2015 did she? She never cried 'foul' then did she? No she didn't because she knew every Scot DID know there would be an EU Referendum when they voted.

I love a good debate or even argument but I resent being called a liar ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nicola. Sturgeon. was a "swinger" in her youth."

A sentence containing barge pole springs to mind!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Please don't confuse democracy with naked and corrupt political ambition ....

*Cough* Nigel Boris "

Nigel Farage has been fighting against the EU for 25 years. He has endured extreme forms of abuse for his views. It know appears that 17.4 million people took the trouble to go out and vote in agreement with him. For all his faults (and he has many) he is the only man who can stand up and say this is what he has always campaigned for. he had ONE ambition and he has achieved it. Corrupt? Any facts?

As for Boris well he is nakedly ambitious but corrupt? And he was actually a very good Mayor for London.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" The EU referendum was not known about when Scotland voted.

Therefore you are wrong to say they voted knowing it was coming. The opposite. Scotland was sold the UK on the basis that it was the best chance to stay in the EU.

Please stop spreading lies.

Before you call people liars make damn sure they do not have the facts to prove YOUR statements are .. err... misleading.

January 2013:

Cameron announces there will be a referendum on EU membership by the end of 2017 if the Tories win the General election in May 2015.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33141819

It remained a large part of the pre-election discussions and debate until that General Election. In which the Scots took part if I recall. Oh yes. TheSNP were only the 5th highest popular vote but still got 56 MPs.... Hmmmm

21st March 2013:

The SNP announce there will be a referendum on Scottish Independence in September 2014.

So the Scots knew (or should have known) for some 18 months before they voted. And oddly enough Nicola never asked for another referendum when the EU Referendum Law was made known in the Queens Speech in May 2015 did she? She never cried 'foul' then did she? No she didn't because she knew every Scot DID know there would be an EU Referendum when they voted.

I love a good debate or even argument but I resent being called a liar ...."

"touché!"

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


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My point was that this woman gets undue air time given the size of the country of which she is First Minister. "

Seriously!!!! so scotland doesnt matter in your opinion it should shut up and put up because its only a fraction the size of englandshire ..and you wonder why alot of scots want to end the union

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool


" The EU referendum was not known about when Scotland voted.

Therefore you are wrong to say they voted knowing it was coming. The opposite. Scotland was sold the UK on the basis that it was the best chance to stay in the EU.

Please stop spreading lies.

Before you call people liars make damn sure they do not have the facts to prove YOUR statements are .. err... misleading.

January 2013:

Cameron announces there will be a referendum on EU membership by the end of 2017 if the Tories win the General election in May 2015.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33141819

It remained a large part of the pre-election discussions and debate until that General Election. In which the Scots took part if I recall. Oh yes. TheSNP were only the 5th highest popular vote but still got 56 MPs.... Hmmmm

21st March 2013:

The SNP announce there will be a referendum on Scottish Independence in September 2014.

So the Scots knew (or should have known) for some 18 months before they voted. And oddly enough Nicola never asked for another referendum when the EU Referendum Law was made known in the Queens Speech in May 2015 did she? She never cried 'foul' then did she? No she didn't because she knew every Scot DID know there would be an EU Referendum when they voted.

I love a good debate or even argument but I resent being called a liar ...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone know Ruth Davidson's stance on this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nicola. Sturgeon. was a "swinger" in her youth."

Sorry.... am i the only one to notice this comment?

I gotta ask the question if no one else will. How do you know?? And do I want proof? Possibly not, actually.

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich


"Forgive the rant but .....

Is it just me or is anyone else getting slightly tired of the airtime given to a woman who seeks to exploit every situation for her benefit? Not every Scot voted for the SNP at the last General or Scottish elections. Over a million Scots voted for 'Leave' in the Referendum. It wasn't an area vote it was a numerical UK vote. And yet she now says:

"We will seek to enter into immediate discussions with the EU institutions and other EU member states to explore all possible options to protect Scotland's place in the EU."

What place is that? The people of Scotland voted to be in the UK. She lost that vote. But just like the EU she so loves she thinks the Scottish people need to be allowed / told to vote correctly.

Who the hell does she think she is? She represents about 8% (5 Mn) of the UK population and leads a country that is subsidised to the tune of £15 Bn last year from the English she seeks to revile and abuse. And yet we see her popping up at every opportunity.

Anyone else agree its time for Nicola to just be quiet?"

I blame the Scots - if more voted to remain - we would still be in the EU...

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


"Anyone know Ruth Davidson's stance on this?"

What i can make out is she doesnt support another indy ref but at the same time she doesnt want dragged out of europe ...the scottish parliament is going to be an interesting place over the next few weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A woman that knows what she wants

A rare thing indeed

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By *urreyfun38Couple
over a year ago

croydon

If Scotland wants independance then let them vote but what happens if they got this independance.

And good luck if they do vote to leave

Will Europe welcome them back or into europe.

Spain would, I believe almost cetainly veto their membership.

Sometimes just be careful what you wish for as it has a way of bitting you.

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


"If Scotland wants independance then let them vote but what happens if they got this independance.

And good luck if they do vote to leave

Will Europe welcome them back or into europe.

Spain would, I believe almost cetainly veto their membership.

Sometimes just be careful what you wish for as it has a way of bitting you."

A vote wont come unless guaratees are forthcoming from the european union on scotlands continued inclusion ..will be interesting to see what comes out of these talks

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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My point was that this woman gets undue air time given the size of the country of which she is First Minister.

Seriously!!!! so scotland doesnt matter in your opinion it should shut up and put up because its only a fraction the size of englandshire ..and you wonder why alot of scots want to end the union "

Please read what was actually written but let me clarify my point. I never said Scotland didn't matter. You just added that. You seem to have missed the word 'undue' by which I meant that she is given disproportionately more air time for her independence biased views than is reasonable. How often do we see the Welsh or Ulster elected leaders on prime time TV giving press conferences? Sinn Fein had about 3 minutes in an interview and we have heard nothing from the Welsh. Are they irrelevant?

As I said if the Scots want to jog off into the North Sea then please do and mind you take a compass. Personally I am getting rather hacked off with being lectured by Salmond and Sturgeon about how shit we English are to live with and yet these cretins were happy to take my English £15 Bn last year to fund the Wee Baubies denied to people like me. I would also like for the SNP MPs to keep their noses out of my business while my MP is denied access to Scottish affairs. Some hopes.

And trust me it isn't only you Scots that are now wondering why we keep the Union together...

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