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"The bloke who just interrupted my Great British breakfast asking me what I thought before telling me what he thought, I just wanted to eat in peace!" Continental breakfast will be banned next | |||
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"The bloke who just interrupted my Great British breakfast asking me what I thought before telling me what he thought, I just wanted to eat in peace! Continental breakfast will be banned next" I'll vote for that ! Full English all the way  | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? " Why does anyone care what they think? | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? " because they are the credit agency people use when they are lending from country to country.... or from huge financial institution to country... equifax for the super duper duper rich.... and if i was going to lend a country billions....i think i'd like to know if i am going to get that money back, and what rate of interest i am getting back.... they said it just got riskier.... don't you agree... because thats what most economists said... | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others......" I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? because they are the credit agency people use when they are lending from country to country.... or from huge financial institution to country... equifax for the super duper duper rich.... and if i was going to lend a country billions....i think i'd like to know if i am going to get that money back, and what rate of interest i am getting back.... they said it just got riskier.... don't you agree... because thats what most economists said... " But doesn't 2008 already prove they aren't competent at doing that? | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram "Lefty fascists? Seriously? I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this. | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved."  smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this."On a separate note, Courtney could you use your charms on whoever is the next President and put in a good word for us to get a kick ass trade deal? | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram "Us lefties can be described as many things, fascist isn't one of them. | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had. "Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever"Realy? if you go to wales I think most say that maggie was the worst! it's all sujective  | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? because they are the credit agency people use when they are lending from country to country.... or from huge financial institution to country... equifax for the super duper duper rich.... and if i was going to lend a country billions....i think i'd like to know if i am going to get that money back, and what rate of interest i am getting back.... they said it just got riskier.... don't you agree... because thats what most economists said... But doesn't 2008 already prove they aren't competent at doing that? " . Oh no they were competent, they were just crooked as well. Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever
Realy? if you go to wales I think most say that maggie was the worst! it's all sujective "Depends if you are being objective or not. A more objective view would be that she didn't do a whole lot for Wales because she thought they were a backwards lot dragging on the rest of the UK. She was clearly successful in other areas. It's hard to see exactly what Dave would claim as his big successes. He's had one popular policy (calling benefits at the national average wage). Other than that, very very average. | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? because they are the credit agency people use when they are lending from country to country.... or from huge financial institution to country... equifax for the super duper duper rich.... and if i was going to lend a country billions....i think i'd like to know if i am going to get that money back, and what rate of interest i am getting back.... they said it just got riskier.... don't you agree... because thats what most economists said... But doesn't 2008 already prove they aren't competent at doing that? . Oh no they were competent, they were just crooked as well. " The net result was their analysis was dog shite and can't be trusted. Does a leopard change its spots? | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved." that they are so surprised by the decision is maybe understandable but it sort of says they don't know what is going on and how people feel within the then 28 members, someone is not telling it how it is or it's heads in the sand maybe.. the possibility of arrogance and so what we are for their benefit is one that would be a bigger concern.. | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds!" Who, what, when, how? | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
On a separate note, Courtney could you use your charms on whoever is the next President and put in a good word for us to get a kick ass trade deal? "The US will work out a deal commiserate with your standing in the world outside the EU. Bring lube. | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever". Scotland isn't going anywhere, there just making noise for a better deal on the Barnett formula, just like Wales and northern Ireland are doing, it's a ten year run to get membership in the EU, none of them could make 3 years alone!. Besides I've already told you, we won't leave the EU! | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?" . Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
On a separate note, Courtney could you use your charms on whoever is the next President and put in a good word for us to get a kick ass trade deal?
The US will work out a deal commiserate with your standing in the world outside the EU. Bring lube."Not sure if we'll have any left once we're done negotiating with China  | |||
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" The US will work out a deal commiserate with your standing in the world outside the EU. Bring lube." when you try to warn then Trumps version of a great deal is "great deal for america"... he just got a better chance of that now then he would have gotten dealing with a bloc..... | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?. Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause" So who did what? | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
On a separate note, Courtney could you use your charms on whoever is the next President and put in a good word for us to get a kick ass trade deal? "Im getting worried our local has run out of kronenbourg will we be able to have any more? | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? because they are the credit agency people use when they are lending from country to country.... or from huge financial institution to country... equifax for the super duper duper rich.... and if i was going to lend a country billions....i think i'd like to know if i am going to get that money back, and what rate of interest i am getting back.... they said it just got riskier.... don't you agree... because thats what most economists said... But doesn't 2008 already prove they aren't competent at doing that? . Oh no they were competent, they were just crooked as well. The net result was their analysis was dog shite and can't be trusted. Does a leopard change its spots? " . No I'm with you, I don't listen to anything they say, and I'm pretty sure traders don't either otherwise they wouldn't have all bought US treasury bonds after they lost their triple a rating!. Oh wait no that was the EU central bank returning the favour!. Cut to the picture of the trader with his head in his hands.... Oh the calamity | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? because they are the credit agency people use when they are lending from country to country.... or from huge financial institution to country... equifax for the super duper duper rich.... and if i was going to lend a country billions....i think i'd like to know if i am going to get that money back, and what rate of interest i am getting back.... they said it just got riskier.... don't you agree... because thats what most economists said... But doesn't 2008 already prove they aren't competent at doing that? . Oh no they were competent, they were just crooked as well. The net result was their analysis was dog shite and can't be trusted. Does a leopard change its spots? . No I'm with you, I don't listen to anything they say, and I'm pretty sure traders don't either otherwise they wouldn't have all bought US treasury bonds after they lost their triple a rating!. Oh wait no that was the EU central bank returning the favour!. Cut to the picture of the trader with his head in his hands.... Oh the calamity" I'm so bored of hearing how "the markets" reacted to the news. When will people realise the markets are dominated by speculators not investors. They weren't making a statement about Brexit, they were reflecting the fact they got their prediction wrong. | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this."Fuck me all I've heard is "Well you've just got to roll your selves up and get on with it" and "Britain made it through he Blitz this is nothing in comparison" oh and "lets pull together and stand United as a Union." Britain is not the same nation as it was in the 1940's, that was a day and age passed, as for rolling my sleeves up, I've basically been told that I will loose my career in 6-18 months times so yeah, I'll be rolling my sleeves up to find a job for my own interest. As for the Union, we're not United anymore. Scotland and London made it clear they feel as though their future was in the EU. Most young people felt as though the EU was a big part of their future. We are now well and truly in broken Britain. | |||
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"Corbyn has to go. Total lack of impact on the issue of a generation. Does anyone remember any contribution he made to the debate ?" I remember him hating the EU for his whole career, being a man of principle who would never back something he didn't believe in. Then he came on stage, mumbled something about workers rights and fucked off. He didn't have the balls to back leave like he wanted to. | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?. Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause So who did what? " . How did the bookies get it so wrong?. The answer is they didn't! The fix was in from the start, betting manipulations, voting manipulations, every institution under the sun predicting Armageddon, every world leader predicting Armageddon.... I take my hat off to the great British public.... we've always been eccentric, even 40 years of EU membership couldn't kick that out of us | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
Fuck me all I've heard is "Well you've just got to roll your selves up and get on with it" and "Britain made it through he Blitz this is nothing in comparison" oh and "lets pull together and stand United as a Union."
Britain is not the same nation as it was in the 1940's, that was a day and age passed, as for rolling my sleeves up, I've basically been told that I will loose my career in 6-18 months times so yeah, I'll be rolling my sleeves up to find a job for my own interest. As for the Union, we're not United anymore. Scotland and London made it clear they feel as though their future was in the EU. Most young people felt as though the EU was a big part of their future.
We are now well and truly in broken Britain."What's your career unistudent? | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
Fuck me all I've heard is "Well you've just got to roll your selves up and get on with it" and "Britain made it through he Blitz this is nothing in comparison" oh and "lets pull together and stand United as a Union."
Britain is not the same nation as it was in the 1940's, that was a day and age passed, as for rolling my sleeves up, I've basically been told that I will loose my career in 6-18 months times so yeah, I'll be rolling my sleeves up to find a job for my own interest. As for the Union, we're not United anymore. Scotland and London made it clear they feel as though their future was in the EU. Most young people felt as though the EU was a big part of their future.
We are now well and truly in broken Britain."Well sorry but I voted remain and we do have to roll our sleeves up and get on with it. Most of us don't know what will happen now, don't be a victim. | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
On a separate note, Courtney could you use your charms on whoever is the next President and put in a good word for us to get a kick ass trade deal?
The US will work out a deal commiserate with your standing in the world outside the EU. Bring lube.
Not sure if we'll have any left once we're done negotiating with China "
Don't forget India. They got a whole three centuries of pissed-offness to take out on us too. That's gonna be one angry ass-fuck - and they'll have us begging for more  | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?. Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause So who did what? . How did the bookies get it so wrong?. The answer is they didn't! The fix was in from the start, betting manipulations, voting manipulations, every institution under the sun predicting Armageddon, every world leader predicting Armageddon.... I take my hat off to the great British public.... we've always been eccentric, even 40 years of EU membership couldn't kick that out of us" It wasn't a fix, they made loads of money from it. Their job is to balance bets not make predictions for us. | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever.
Scotland isn't going anywhere, there just making noise for a better deal on the Barnett formula, just like Wales and northern Ireland are doing, it's a ten year run to get membership in the EU, none of them could make 3 years alone!.
Besides I've already told you, we won't leave the EU!"did you see Daniel Hannan on newsnight? | |||
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"Corbyn has to go. Total lack of impact on the issue of a generation. Does anyone remember any contribution he made to the debate ? I remember him hating the EU for his whole career, being a man of principle who would never back something he didn't believe in. Then he came on stage, mumbled something about workers rights and fucked off. He didn't have the balls to back leave like he wanted to. " Aye - this. A total lack of leadership and charisma. | |||
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"I understaqnd the french now want the border moved to the uk and that passport checks can be done " Pity you don't read what the French government said yesterday; The Anglo French border arrangement ( UK border staff in France and vice- versa) will not change . | |||
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"Corbyn has to go. Total lack of impact on the issue of a generation. Does anyone remember any contribution he made to the debate ? I remember him hating the EU for his whole career, being a man of principle who would never back something he didn't believe in. Then he came on stage, mumbled something about workers rights and fucked off. He didn't have the balls to back leave like he wanted to. Aye - this. A total lack of leadership and charisma." Ironically he missed a huge trick to boost his popularity. The North voted to leave and if he'd had the grapefruits to campaign for what he believed in then his stock would have risen. | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?. Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause So who did what? . How did the bookies get it so wrong?. The answer is they didn't! The fix was in from the start, betting manipulations, voting manipulations, every institution under the sun predicting Armageddon, every world leader predicting Armageddon.... I take my hat off to the great British public.... we've always been eccentric, even 40 years of EU membership couldn't kick that out of us It wasn't a fix, they made loads of money from it. Their job is to balance bets not make predictions for us. " . But I watched the betting thread very carefully..... Everybody on it was using the odds as a prediction, predictions have a habit of influencing votes!. The money "rigged" the referendum to the point where they think it's in the bag!. What we saw was the market realising there'd been thrown out by lemmings .... The anarchist in me just had to titter | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever.
Scotland isn't going anywhere, there just making noise for a better deal on the Barnett formula, just like Wales and northern Ireland are doing, it's a ten year run to get membership in the EU, none of them could make 3 years alone!.
Besides I've already told you, we won't leave the EU!
did you see Daniel Hannan on newsnight?
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had. "Wow, Blair aside, I'm agreeing with Joe. I'm going for a pint for a rethink. | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever.
Scotland isn't going anywhere, there just making noise for a better deal on the Barnett formula, just like Wales and northern Ireland are doing, it's a ten year run to get membership in the EU, none of them could make 3 years alone!.
Besides I've already told you, we won't leave the EU!
did you see Daniel Hannan on newsnight?
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
Fuck me all I've heard is "Well you've just got to roll your selves up and get on with it" and "Britain made it through he Blitz this is nothing in comparison" oh and "lets pull together and stand United as a Union."
Britain is not the same nation as it was in the 1940's, that was a day and age passed, as for rolling my sleeves up, I've basically been told that I will loose my career in 6-18 months times so yeah, I'll be rolling my sleeves up to find a job for my own interest. As for the Union, we're not United anymore. Scotland and London made it clear they feel as though their future was in the EU. Most young people felt as though the EU was a big part of their future.
We are now well and truly in broken Britain."i voted to remain and i think the vote says many things which in the fullness of time will come to light but we are where we are, we may be in a parlous state or we may be about to enter a new era in this countries history.. we are not broken.. and we of both sides need to get on with it, its as simple as that.. | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others......" Fuck others .time for uk to be the uk In voting out we did nothing wrong ..nothing our ancestors didn't do...England wont be ruled | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever.
Scotland isn't going anywhere, there just making noise for a better deal on the Barnett formula, just like Wales and northern Ireland are doing, it's a ten year run to get membership in the EU, none of them could make 3 years alone!.
Besides I've already told you, we won't leave the EU!
did you see Daniel Hannan on newsnight?
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No, I've tried to stay away from the TV, Ive just have been tuning into five live,i always feel you get a better sense of perspective from the radio"if you can catch it on the I player, it was interesting. Had Efan Davis pulling his not much hair out.. | |||
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"I'm still in party mode, dressed to kill, at the noisiest mud bath imaginable. I'll worry about this shit middle of next week. Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Yes, he was very very average until this point and when Scotland leaves the UK then he'll be fighting it out with Chamberlain for worst PMs ever.
Scotland isn't going anywhere, there just making noise for a better deal on the Barnett formula, just like Wales and northern Ireland are doing, it's a ten year run to get membership in the EU, none of them could make 3 years alone!.
Besides I've already told you, we won't leave the EU!
did you see Daniel Hannan on newsnight?
What did he say?"basically that the immigration wasn't a huge issue and they the leave lot may be happy with a certain number if its linked to a deal with the EU.. i need to look at it again tbh, it had the interviewer a bit perplexed.. | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?. Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause So who did what? . How did the bookies get it so wrong?. The answer is they didn't! The fix was in from the start, betting manipulations, voting manipulations, every institution under the sun predicting Armageddon, every world leader predicting Armageddon.... I take my hat off to the great British public.... we've always been eccentric, even 40 years of EU membership couldn't kick that out of us It wasn't a fix, they made loads of money from it. Their job is to balance bets not make predictions for us. . But I watched the betting thread very carefully..... Everybody on it was using the odds as a prediction, predictions have a habit of influencing votes!. The money "rigged" the referendum to the point where they think it's in the bag!. What we saw was the market realising there'd been thrown out by lemmings .... The anarchist in me just had to titter "Yes I was on the aforementioned thread. The bottom line was we didn't interpret the odds correctly. We were biased, we looked and saw what we wanted to see and didn't think about biases. | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving "At last someone nails the truth. We left the EU because of how they have inexorably created this unelected monstrosity that invades every part of our lives and when people here said 'Oi hang on ...' they dismissed us as irrelevant. Even though we are the second / third biggest nett contributor. As my late mum once told a copper 'Its the likes of us pay your bloody wages!'. As a lifelong Tory I am utterly ashamed of how Cameron ran the 'Remain' campaign and why I am proud to say I volunteered and campaigned for Vote Leave. The more 'fear' he threw at the British people the more I saw people saying 'f**k off' and turning to 'Leave'. Obama was a massive boost for us. Cameron should never have gone on bended knees to Brussels for scraps because he looked stupid coming back with crumbs. He should never have entered the debate and stood back neutral as PM. He would not now have to resign and we would not now have that extra and unnecessary uncertainty. And it is the political as much as the economic uncertainty that Moodys and their mates are feeding off. The British people have spoken very clearly. It was a lesson in how democracy should work. It is now up to the Government and those with influence like the Bank of England to steer us through these troubled waters. | |||
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" Did you not see the big money on betfair manipulating the remain odds! Who, what, when, how?. Deep pocket individuals, the type who can afford to lose 80 million for a cause So who did what? . How did the bookies get it so wrong?. The answer is they didn't! The fix was in from the start, betting manipulations, voting manipulations, every institution under the sun predicting Armageddon, every world leader predicting Armageddon.... I take my hat off to the great British public.... we've always been eccentric, even 40 years of EU membership couldn't kick that out of us It wasn't a fix, they made loads of money from it. Their job is to balance bets not make predictions for us. . But I watched the betting thread very carefully..... Everybody on it was using the odds as a prediction, predictions have a habit of influencing votes!. The money "rigged" the referendum to the point where they think it's in the bag!. What we saw was the market realising there'd been thrown out by lemmings .... The anarchist in me just had to titter
Yes I was on the aforementioned thread. The bottom line was we didn't interpret the odds correctly. We were biased, we looked and saw what we wanted to see and didn't think about biases. ". I guess we all have a habit of seeing what we want to see!. Thing is, if Dave had just come back from the EU with the temporary limiting of immigration, (he wouldn't have had to have fight for it, it's been a rule in the EU for ages). All this would be history.... Kinda makes you wonder why he didn't? | |||
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"The very sensible Paul Kruger in the NYT with advice to his American readers: "Calm down about the short-run macroeconomics; grieve for Europe, but you should have been doing that already; worry about Britain"" . Paul Kruger is a government shrill, always has been! | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram
Lefty fascists? Seriously?
I don't understand why people talk about their fellow countrymen like this. The leave side spouts ideals like "making the most of it" and "coming together" and a "United front". What absolute bull shit with comments like this.
On a separate note, Courtney could you use your charms on whoever is the next President and put in a good word for us to get a kick ass trade deal? "we already have a trade deal with the USA. We even charge them 7.5% more for their exports here than they charge us. Monday morning we should say 'OK USA. You charge us 2.5% so we will charge you 2.5% and not the 10% the EU tells us to.' There you go. Trade deal sorted in one phone call. | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving
At last someone nails the truth. We left the EU because of how they have inexorably created this unelected monstrosity that invades every part of our lives and when people here said 'Oi hang on ...' they dismissed us as irrelevant. Even though we are the second / third biggest nett contributor. As my late mum once told a copper 'Its the likes of us pay your bloody wages!'.
As a lifelong Tory I am utterly ashamed of how Cameron ran the 'Remain' campaign and why I am proud to say I volunteered and campaigned for Vote Leave. The more 'fear' he threw at the British people the more I saw people saying 'f**k off' and turning to 'Leave'. Obama was a massive boost for us.
Cameron should never have gone on bended knees to Brussels for scraps because he looked stupid coming back with crumbs. He should never have entered the debate and stood back neutral as PM. He would not now have to resign and we would not now have that extra and unnecessary uncertainty. And it is the political as much as the economic uncertainty that Moodys and their mates are feeding off.
The British people have spoken very clearly. It was a lesson in how democracy should work. It is now up to the Government and those with influence like the Bank of England to steer us through these troubled waters. "Good points, the whole leave vote is one big "fuck off" so my anger is directed towards those who pushed those people past their limits. In my opinion the EU has more potential than going alone, but it clearly wasn't fulfilling it's potential and hadn't been for a long time. The complete lack of humility from other EU prime ministers suggests to me that I was wrong to believe they could be reformed. | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving "Exactly ?????? | |||
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" The complete lack of humility from other EU prime ministers suggests to me that I was wrong to believe they could be reformed. " Absolutely. I am sad we had to go down this road but when people who think freely and have democracy on their side are ignored and pusshed around ..... When we Brits talk of 'EU Reform' we mean something completely different to what Juncker and all the rest understand by that term. To us it is less regulation and uncontrolled migration (to take two) but to them its MORE regulation, unification and federalist conforming. And more migration. S to us its the complete opposite. And you only have to read what Merkel said today. She used the word 'unification' twice. Says it all. | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving "Exactly | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. Yes you missed the mayor of London 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? " | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit ." well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... | |||
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"and as for juncke.... he works in the best interests of the EU........ the UK decided to leave the EU i would be putting on as much pressure as possible because that helps the EU position..... I know people in the UK like to think the decision is all about the UK, but that decision has consequences for others...... I hope Juncker does realise he is working in the best interests of the people of the EU. I have heard nothing so far that acknowledges that there is deep unrest amongst the people in many countries. He, like many others refused to believe that the UK might actually vote to leave, which is why he gave so little to Cameron in the pre referendum negotiations. For European stability I hope the EU recognises the huge implications of this vote, looks outside of its Ivory Tower and looks at ways in which the current structures can be improved. smashed it out the park. If he'd looked after the interests of the people of the EU then we wouldn't be leaving
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Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit .". If you take time to read, funnily enough the eastern block countries are all very sympathetic and want big EU changes..... Where as France Spain and to some extent Germany are playing hardball!. Forget about German ministers they say all sorts of batshit crazy stuff, read between Merkels lines! When she says jump the EU says how high | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? There is already a warning from Standard and Poors that our AAA status will change. No matter what we feel about these companies their ratings are the same as the credit check you go through to borrow money. The simple fact is that serving our huge debts becomes more expensive, so that money that was going to the NHS may be heading elsewhere.. The US debt is larger and they got downgraded to double AA and they still sold all they're treasury bonds" We had our rating downgraded some years ago and it had little effect. Basically the Ratings Agency are saying what everyone else already knows. Its a risky time but people make money out of risk and always have. We call them banksters where I live ... | |||
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"The leftie fascists have well and truly thrown the toys out the pram "You are ignorant. Appalingly so. 'Lefties' are the opposite of fascists. Welcome to being screwed over by the Right(vastly more so). Fascists are politically RIGHT wing by the way. | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? There is already a warning from Standard and Poors that our AAA status will change. No matter what we feel about these companies their ratings are the same as the credit check you go through to borrow money. The simple fact is that serving our huge debts becomes more expensive, so that money that was going to the NHS may be heading elsewhere.. The US debt is larger and they got downgraded to double AA and they still sold all they're treasury bonds We had our rating downgraded some years ago and it had little effect. Basically the Ratings Agency are saying what everyone else already knows. Its a risky time but people make money out of risk and always have. We call them banksters where I live ..." Yeah. Farage was one of those wasn't he? Well. Speculator. He's SO anti establishment/ elite. | |||
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"Europe is sinking, we are just the first rat! There will be others. All we have done is made the seats in the European Parliament slightly uncomfortable. " And metaphorically fucked ourselves up the arse. Then again, some people like that I know. | |||
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"Moody's have downgraded us from stable to negative. That's great for inspiring confidence in the market. Why do they only quote them? Why does anyone care what they think? There is already a warning from Standard and Poors that our AAA status will change. No matter what we feel about these companies their ratings are the same as the credit check you go through to borrow money. The simple fact is that serving our huge debts becomes more expensive, so that money that was going to the NHS may be heading elsewhere.. The US debt is larger and they got downgraded to double AA and they still sold all they're treasury bonds We had our rating downgraded some years ago and it had little effect. Basically the Ratings Agency are saying what everyone else already knows. Its a risky time but people make money out of risk and always have. We call them banksters where I live ..." They all make money out of it, sitting around a table discussing who they are going to downgrade this week and then all buy shares and then when they downgrade the next country they seel thos and buy the next ones. Hey presto it's just business nothing personal | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so...." People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .." never been and no intentions of | |||
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"Europe is sinking, we are just the first rat! There will be others. All we have done is made the seats in the European Parliament slightly uncomfortable. And metaphorically fucked ourselves up the arse. Then again, some people like that I know." One of the reasons stay lost was because their campaign was so negative. Their focus was on discrediting the leave argument, calling them racist ect. No where did I hear what was positive about staying in. All you have said is to perpetuate the scaremongering. Why have we shafted ourselves? People are scared of the unknown. Give it a week or two the markets will stabilise. I for one, am looking forward. | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. never been and no intentions of" | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .." with 33% unemployment there I don't think there will be a great rush any time soon | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. with 33% unemployment there I don't think there will be a great rush any time soon "Strange that we had only been here a couple of months both got jobs neither of us were looking for work work found us .....just shows you numbers dont always tell the full story | |||
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Strange that we had only been here a couple of months both got jobs neither of us were looking for work work found us .....just shows you numbers dont always tell the full story "they aren't my numbers. and working illegaly doesn't really count | |||
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" Yeah. Farage was one of those wasn't he? Well. Speculator. He's SO anti establishment/ elite. " Actually he was a metals trader. He bought and sold metals that industry needed. He was a supplier. Yes he took risks ('speculated') on a future price but that takes a certain skill and knowledge of an industry. He used private money and what he did didn't affect the general public. The banksters to whom I was referring Do affect the general public and our well being. But then you knew that but felt the need to have a pop at Farage.... | |||
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"Europe is sinking, we are just the first rat! There will be others. All we have done is made the seats in the European Parliament slightly uncomfortable. And metaphorically fucked ourselves up the arse. Then again, some people like that I know. One of the reasons stay lost was because their campaign was so negative. Their focus was on discrediting the leave argument, calling them racist ect. No where did I hear what was positive about staying in. All you have said is to perpetuate the scaremongering. Why have we shafted ourselves? People are scared of the unknown. Give it a week or two the markets will stabilise. I for one, am looking forward. " Back of the net .... | |||
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" Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had. "Even he couldn't rival Thatcher (she de-industrialised our country and destroyed workers rights) or Blair who compounded it all and kowtowed to the US and the EU and took us in to wars. Although at the time it was what the people wanted and although I didn't like either of them I had to accept their democratic decision unlike the crowd of screaming luvvies (Rowlings, Geldof et al) who obviously don't believe in democracy. | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? " My friend Tom Stanger lost his job last week on fears that Brexit would happen. Now 3,000 of his colleagues are being made redundant. Welcome to Independence Day #2. Having fun yet? | |||
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"Brexit - A Dummies Guide. Frexit - to find friends more aligned to your values. Parexit - telling your parents you won't be having Sunday lunch with them this week because you're very disappointed with their choices (but you understand the age-related myopia). Paralexit - to get incoherently d*unk on hearing you've been denied entry to your favourite club. Fixit - the fleeting hope we can somehow get ourselves out of this shit. Fuckxit - what is currently happening to our economy. Bolloxit - any sane person's view of what just happened. Forgetxit - what I'll be doing later after getting Paralexit." Canarexit - turning a blind eye to 33% unemployment. A Brexit will help the whole of Europe in the long run | |||
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"I understaqnd the french now want the border moved to the uk and that passport checks can be done here. Simple answer is the checks are done on bording the ferry or the tunnel if you're names not on the list don't let them travel. or just send them back on the next ferry as they surely must have a return ticket if they don't live here. ?" If they are in the back of a wagon they have no tickets. With checks removed from France that could be the case? Although as soon as referendum was announced this was a scare story that was quashed by the French Foreign minister....he said border checks would remain the same. | |||
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"Brexit - A Dummies Guide. Frexit - to find friends more aligned to your values. Parexit - telling your parents you won't be having Sunday lunch with them this week because you're very disappointed with their choices (but you understand the age-related myopia). Paralexit - to get incoherently d*unk on hearing you've been denied entry to your favourite club. Fixit - the fleeting hope we can somehow get ourselves out of this shit. Fuckxit - what is currently happening to our economy. Bolloxit - any sane person's view of what just happened. Forgetxit - what I'll be doing later after getting Paralexit." | |||
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" Although for my tuppence-worth, I think Cameron will go down in history as one of the worst PMs the country has ever had.
Even he couldn't rival Thatcher (she de-industrialised our country and destroyed workers rights) or Blair who compounded it all and kowtowed to the US and the EU and took us in to wars.
Although at the time it was what the people wanted and although I didn't like either of them I had to accept their democratic decision unlike the crowd of screaming luvvies (Rowlings, Geldof et al) who obviously don't believe in democracy."Let's not forget it's still Gay Pride. Fly this flag people. It's the only one we can be genuinely proud of right now. | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. with 33% unemployment there I don't think there will be a great rush any time soon
Strange that we had only been here a couple of months both got jobs neither of us were looking for work work found us .....just shows you numbers dont always tell the full story
they aren't my numbers.
and working illegaly doesn't really count "Working on contract not illegal pay tax ..unlike some who hold residencia to pay less property tax here and banking charges and then dont live here ..and who shouldn't get access to nhs services in the UK due to living in Spain but defraud the system | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. with 33% unemployment there I don't think there will be a great rush any time soon
Strange that we had only been here a couple of months both got jobs neither of us were looking for work work found us .....just shows you numbers dont always tell the full story
they aren't my numbers.
and working illegaly doesn't really count
Working on contract not illegal pay tax ..unlike some who hold residencia to pay less property tax here and banking charges and then dont live here ..and who shouldn't get access to nhs services in the UK due to living in Spain but defraud the system "to work more than 3 months you need a Residencia | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. with 33% unemployment there I don't think there will be a great rush any time soon
Strange that we had only been here a couple of months both got jobs neither of us were looking for work work found us .....just shows you numbers dont always tell the full story
they aren't my numbers.
and working illegaly doesn't really count
Working on contract not illegal pay tax ..unlike some who hold residencia to pay less property tax here and banking charges and then dont live here ..and who shouldn't get access to nhs services in the UK due to living in Spain but defraud the system
to work more than 3 months you need a Residencia"So you cheat the system claiming to live here when you don't and defraud the UK system with health care over there ... | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... People like you are one of the many reasons we left the UK on the plus side maybe it will reduce the number of arsehole Brits who come here either on holiday or to settle .. with 33% unemployment there I don't think there will be a great rush any time soon
Strange that we had only been here a couple of months both got jobs neither of us were looking for work work found us .....just shows you numbers dont always tell the full story
they aren't my numbers.
and working illegaly doesn't really count
Working on contract not illegal pay tax ..unlike some who hold residencia to pay less property tax here and banking charges and then dont live here ..and who shouldn't get access to nhs services in the UK due to living in Spain but defraud the system
to work more than 3 months you need a Residencia
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. " A good period of stagnation for UK business..before we see what mood the EU in ... | |||
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" My friend Tom Stanger lost his job last week on fears that Brexit would happen. Now 3,000 of his colleagues are being made redundant. Welcome to Independence Day #2. Having fun yet? " Is that in Gran Canaria or in the UK? What sort of company sacks 3,000 people within 24 hours of a referendum? A source or two might help ...?? | |||
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"Australia is taking Britain's lead and quitting the AU; they are going to become Stralia." Please have a care for and be gentle with the Aussies at this very sad time. After all they have suffered a great loss. They have just been whitewashed by the English Rugby team 3 - 0. | |||
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" Don't forget India. They got a whole three centuries of pissed-offness to take out on us too. That's gonna be one angry ass-fuck - and they'll have us begging for more " " The US will work out a deal commiserate with your standing in the world outside the EU. Bring lube. " " Not sure if we'll have any left once we're done negotiating with China " 3 random quotes which all seem to show people think we do not already trade with India, the USA or China. Or wherever. Or that somehow if we did it all stops as of this morning. We already have Bilateral Trade Agreements with every country with whom we trade. We especially have preferential trade terms better than our EU 'partners' with the 53 Commonwealth countries. Like Canada. The simple fact is that because we are in the EU we have to charge at least a 10% import tariff from non-EU countries. In most cases we are charged less to export to them. Unless its India (one of the largest consumers of whisky) where they stitch us for some 117% duties on our Scotch whisky because of how the EU treats them. Does the fragrant Nicola Sturgeon realise her beloved EU is quietly shafting the Scotch whisky industry? Bottom line is we can only improve all our trade deals with countries that already buy or goods. We should do that like next week and reduce our import tariffs and send a positive message to the rest of the world. Offer India a 2.5% deal both ways and see the exports of whisky rise. Lets not forget the 'EU Single Market' is not about Free Trade. It is a protection based Customs Union for the internal benefit of 28 .. sorry .. 27 countries. We are now free to do what we are best at. Global Trade. | |||
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" Don't forget India. They got a whole three centuries of pissed-offness to take out on us too. That's gonna be one angry ass-fuck - and they'll have us begging for more The US will work out a deal commiserate with your standing in the world outside the EU. Bring lube. Not sure if we'll have any left once we're done negotiating with China 3 random quotes which all seem to show people think we do not already trade with India, the USA or China. Or wherever. Or that somehow if we did it all stops as of this morning. We already have Bilateral Trade Agreements with every country with whom we trade. We especially have preferential trade terms better than our EU 'partners' with the 53 Commonwealth countries. Like Canada. The simple fact is that because we are in the EU we have to charge at least a 10% import tariff from non-EU countries. In most cases we are charged less to export to them. Unless its India (one of the largest consumers of whisky) where they stitch us for some 117% duties on our Scotch whisky because of how the EU treats them. Does the fragrant Nicola Sturgeon realise her beloved EU is quietly shafting the Scotch whisky industry? Bottom line is we can only improve all our trade deals with countries that already buy or goods. We should do that like next week and reduce our import tariffs and send a positive message to the rest of the world. Offer India a 2.5% deal both ways and see the exports of whisky rise. Lets not forget the 'EU Single Market' is not about Free Trade. It is a protection based Customs Union for the internal benefit of 28 .. sorry .. 27 countries. We are now free to do what we are best at. Global Trade. " And whose going to cover the loss of revenue to the British government ..ohh I know higher taxes | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so...." buts that the whole (fucking) point.... the UK certainly aren't looking out for the other 27 by a)leaving and b)dragging it out....... the other 27 have to look out for the other 27!! why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... buts that the whole (fucking) point.... the UK certainly aren't looking out for the other 27 by a)leaving and b)dragging it out....... the other 27 have to look out for the other 27!! why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? " It won't be 27 for long, others will see the light and leave now too. | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... buts that the whole (fucking) point.... the UK certainly aren't looking out for the other 27 by a)leaving and b)dragging it out....... the other 27 have to look out for the other 27!! why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? It won't be 27 for long, others will see the light and leave now too. " Not when they see how the UK is treated they wont | |||
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. " yes there will be uncertainty but we were the 5th biggest economy before Thursday's vote and we may drop a place or 2 but there will still be money to made for those who invest in business, that will continue.. i voted to stay but we are where we are as that's democracy and we collectively will make it work, stoical bunch some of us Brits.. | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... buts that the whole (fucking) point.... the UK certainly aren't looking out for the other 27 by a)leaving and b)dragging it out....... the other 27 have to look out for the other 27!! why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? It won't be 27 for long, others will see the light and leave now too. Not when they see how the UK is treated they wont " don't other countries have a say on how the UK is treated? Thought the EU was supposed to be democratic according to Remainers? | |||
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. yes there will be uncertainty but we were the 5th biggest economy before Thursday's vote and we may drop a place or 2 but there will still be money to made for those who invest in business, that will continue.. i voted to stay but we are where we are as that's democracy and we collectively will make it work, stoical bunch some of us Brits.. " we won't drop, we were the 5th biggest before we even joined | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... buts that the whole (fucking) point.... the UK certainly aren't looking out for the other 27 by a)leaving and b)dragging it out....... the other 27 have to look out for the other 27!! why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? " a) Why should we have voted to 'Remain' for the benefit of the other 27? b) Why should we move at the pace the other 27 want because it suits them? The EU have had 20+ years to get it right. They failed. They had a last chance in February to give us a 'sweetheart deal' as you call it. They failed. They totally failed to see and recognise their 2nd largest contributor's people were mightily pissed of with the way the EU works (or in reality doesn't). So we voted 'Leave' after a long campaign and well run referendum that produced a very clear decision with over 70% of the electorate taking part. Not sure why we owe the EU anything at all but if they want to screw a country that has a £61 Bn a year trade deficit with them then that is their choice. But from experience we can assume the political egos in Brussels will be as stupid as they were in February and piss us off even more. If they try to offer us a 'Turkey' deal as the Germans are touting now then we may just as well say 'OK fine we are gone as of today' and refer it all to the WTO in which we can now resume our seat. Can I remind you of the WTO position? " Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members." https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/fact2_e.htm So OK no 'sweetheart deals' as that is illegal under WTO rules but those same rules can guarantee no victimisation or hardship from the EU. And lets be real here. German industry has already said that excess tariffs are unnecessary and basically stupid. We will do a deal equal to both sides as we have now even if it means a small tariff. The difference will be we do not have the excess political baggage, migration and costs we had to endure. | |||
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" Hope the remaining 27 remaining EU members .give the UK people what they deserve !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack shit . well thank you for your kind and supportive thoughts. Oh wait .... you already left the UK for 'better things'. So actually your opinion means 'Jack Shit'. Ever thought that if they do dish the shit to us some may splatter over the British ex pats in Europe? I do hope so.... buts that the whole (fucking) point.... the UK certainly aren't looking out for the other 27 by a)leaving and b)dragging it out....... the other 27 have to look out for the other 27!! why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? It won't be 27 for long, others will see the light and leave now too. " I think Brussels will make life very hard for Britain leaving so as to put other countries off the idea of doing the same! Only time will tell I suppose. | |||
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" why do you think the other 27 are going to give you a sweetheart deal? It won't be 27 for long, others will see the light and leave now too. Not when they see how the UK is treated they wont " don't other countries have a say on how the UK is treated? Thought the EU was supposed to be democratic according to Remainers? " Back of the net ... again. | |||
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. yes there will be uncertainty but we were the 5th biggest economy before Thursday's vote and we may drop a place or 2 but there will still be money to made for those who invest in business, that will continue.. i voted to stay but we are where we are as that's democracy and we collectively will make it work, stoical bunch some of us Brits.. we won't drop, we were the 5th biggest before we even joined" yes i said we were, still are i think but its early days and even if we don't drop we may well wobble a bit.. | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). " ditto, the petition to not have another referendum and get on with it needs to get a shift on if it wants to be heard.. | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). ditto, the petition to not have another referendum and get on with it needs to get a shift on if it wants to be heard.." To be honest people that sign petitions are fruitcakes anyway and need to get a life | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). " Another thread running on that topic on the forum now. | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). Another thread running on that topic on the forum now. " I'm not joining it. There's nothing sensible anyone could say to convince me there's two rational sides to the arguement so stay here and rip on politicians with us | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? " 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. " For a normal human being, if your partner comes up to you and says that they prefer being single than being with you, you'd wonder if you weren't a bit of a shit partner to be with. They'd assume they didn't controlled you well enough. | |||
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. yes there will be uncertainty but we were the 5th biggest economy before Thursday's vote and we may drop a place or 2 but there will still be money to made for those who invest in business, that will continue.. i voted to stay but we are where we are as that's democracy and we collectively will make it work, stoical bunch some of us Brits.. " You were 5th biggest economy while in the EU yet that wasn't deemed good enough so I can't see how dropping 2 places will make life any better. There will always be people who make money, even when times are terrible. The problem is the distribution of money is generally worse and the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. " But that is only 3 of the 5 EU Presidents .,.. err .. now what ARE their names ... hang on ..  | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. But that is only 3 of the 5 EU Presidents .,.. err .. now what ARE their names ... hang on .. "Must admit I don't know the names of the other two.   | |||
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. But that is only 3 of the 5 EU Presidents .,.. err .. now what ARE their names ... hang on ..
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. But that is only 3 of the 5 EU Presidents .,.. err .. now what ARE their names ... hang on ..
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"The result is what is it and there are bunch of worms coming out of the woodwork who should frankly get straight back in it. 1) Jean Claude Juncker - someone who makes Sepp Blatter look straight can get lost straight away. Having achieved absolutely nothing in his role and generally bring an unhelpful toss pot, he needs to keep his stones to himself. 2) Moodys - remember those people we bailed out in 2008. The ones who at best missed the looming financial crisis and at worst were complicit in it. They've now got opinions that matter again - apparently. 3) David Cameron - Dave you got us into this mess because you hoped it would kill off UKIP and provide more Tory majorities for the future. Thanks for gambling the country when the EU was in the worst condition it's ever been. Now sail off into the sunset where you can be remembered as the guy who broke up the union. Did I miss anyone? 4. Martin Schultz from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. 5. Donald Tusk from the EU - Arrogant and add same points you made about Jean Claude Juncker. " 6. George Osborne - The soon to be the ex Chancellor who threatened and lied and made an arse of himself. 7. Nicola Sturgeon - the overly broadcast SNP leader and Mischief Maker in Chief. | |||
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. yes there will be uncertainty but we were the 5th biggest economy before Thursday's vote and we may drop a place or 2 but there will still be money to made for those who invest in business, that will continue.. i voted to stay but we are where we are as that's democracy and we collectively will make it work, stoical bunch some of us Brits.. You were 5th biggest economy while in the EU yet that wasn't deemed good enough so I can't see how dropping 2 places will make life any better. There will always be people who make money, even when times are terrible. The problem is the distribution of money is generally worse and the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. " last paragraph has been the case for centuries, sadly.. | |||
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" You were 5th biggest economy while in the EU yet that wasn't deemed good enough so I can't see how dropping 2 places will make life any better. There will always be people who make money, even when times are terrible. The problem is the distribution of money is generally worse and the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. " Like that wasn't gonna happen if we stayed | |||
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" You were 5th biggest economy while in the EU yet that wasn't deemed good enough so I can't see how dropping 2 places will make life any better. There will always be people who make money, even when times are terrible. The problem is the distribution of money is generally worse and the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. Like that wasn't gonna happen if we stayed" Mere hiccup en route to the new world order | |||
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"Juncker is spot on in what he said. Britain voted to leave so that's what they should do, and do it asap. I've no idea why Cameron is waiting until October. Get the finger out lads. As for Moody's, here's their take on it and you can argue with it. I can't imagine any firms/businesses will still looking to invest in Britain. They might not all pull out straight away but they'll certainly sit on their hands and wait and see how everything goes. yes there will be uncertainty but we were the 5th biggest economy before Thursday's vote and we may drop a place or 2 but there will still be money to made for those who invest in business, that will continue.. i voted to stay but we are where we are as that's democracy and we collectively will make it work, stoical bunch some of us Brits.. You were 5th biggest economy while in the EU yet that wasn't deemed good enough so I can't see how dropping 2 places will make life any better. There will always be people who make money, even when times are terrible. The problem is the distribution of money is generally worse and the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. last paragraph has been the case for centuries, sadly.. " Only in the relative sense. In absolute terms the great unwashed have never had it so good. | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). " Thoroughly agreed. This is democracy. We state our preference by way of vote. The majority wins. Democracy is what makes us rational. Would they rather a dictatorship or just a full on totalitarian state as opposed to democracy? | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). Thoroughly agreed. This is democracy. We state our preference by way of vote. The majority wins. Democracy is what makes us rational. Would they rather a dictatorship or just a full on totalitarian state as opposed to democracy?" We could always have trial by combat if people want? Just need a democratic referendum to decide whether to adopt it.... | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). Thoroughly agreed. This is democracy. We state our preference by way of vote. The majority wins. Democracy is what makes us rational. Would they rather a dictatorship or just a full on totalitarian state as opposed to democracy? We could always have trial by combat if people want? Just need a democratic referendum to decide whether to adopt it.... " | |||
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"Ok to answer my own question - yes I did miss a 4th group: "people signing a petition for another referendum" Go do one. What a mockery of a democracy that would be (from a remain voter). Thoroughly agreed. This is democracy. We state our preference by way of vote. The majority wins. Democracy is what makes us rational. Would they rather a dictatorship or just a full on totalitarian state as opposed to democracy? We could always have trial by combat if people want? Just need a democratic referendum to decide whether to adopt it.... " bring it on, the people of Stoke voted to leave 3 to 1
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