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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's a clever politician, no more, no less.

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By *1sexypairCouple
over a year ago

Retford


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

No just another living politician

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By *aucy tiggerWoman
over a year ago

Back where I belong

Wonder if he's on here and what hos username is xx

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Surely UKIP should now disband, their job is done

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

as you asked, why do you think there is a comparison between the 2..?

i don't by the way..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's spent 25 years on his cause so you have to admire him for that. And as for those who prefer to be ruled from Brussels...have a nice day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely UKIP should now disband, their job is done"

Exactly, he'll be a Tory soon

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By *ws101Man
over a year ago

mansfield

Why would ukpid disband? Thats a silly thing to say. The work has only just begun. Boarders still open.. still free trade with the eu and free movement. Single midned people thinking that a sect is only for one thing is the reason they didnt get more seats. I love nige with all my heart. But hell no to him being a pm. Hes just a pre-couser to a better life for brittan. Not the final product

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By *ws101Man
over a year ago

mansfield

Ukip*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why would ukpid disband? Thats a silly thing to say. The work has only just begun. Boarders still open.. still free trade with the eu and free movement. Single midned people thinking that a sect is only for one thing is the reason they didnt get more seats. I love nige with all my heart. But hell no to him being a pm. Hes just a pre-couser to a better life for brittan. Not the final product"

They won't disband, they will disintegrate because they won't be able to blame all our problems on the EU anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."
Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why would ukpid disband? Thats a silly thing to say. The work has only just begun. Boarders still open.. still free trade with the eu and free movement. Single midned people thinking that a sect is only for one thing is the reason they didnt get more seats. I love nige with all my heart. But hell no to him being a pm. Hes just a pre-couser to a better life for brittan. Not the final product"
Is a pre couser someone who lives near Liverpool but not quite in it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige."

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary! "

How so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How so?"

You really need to be explain why an objective look at Nige's career would deem him a success? On today or all days??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol he is a joke, he can be a stand up comedian instead.

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By *ws101Man
over a year ago

mansfield


"Why would ukpid disband? Thats a silly thing to say. The work has only just begun. Boarders still open.. still free trade with the eu and free movement. Single midned people thinking that a sect is only for one thing is the reason they didnt get more seats. I love nige with all my heart. But hell no to him being a pm. Hes just a pre-couser to a better life for brittan. Not the final product

They won't disband, they will disintegrate because they won't be able to blame all our problems on the EU anymore "

How exactly will that happen tho? Greens and purple together? Just because we voted out dont mean its all gonna change over night. We have work to do. And tories can fook off as the stank cameron left behing will linger in the public eyes. Now more that ever we need a more inteligent farage as the public have clearly voted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely UKIP should now disband, their job is done

Exactly, he'll be a Tory soon"

Well he's calling for a Brexit (hate that term, I'm just quoting) government. So that could well be a possibility that he could defect and become a Tory.

Will have to win a bi-election or possibly a seat in a general election.

As a former trader might be well positioned for Chancellor!!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Is that like Churchill?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having met the man in person with no TV cameras around or sound recording equipment I have to say that I found him very straight fwd and exactly what you see on the TV, it is not an act that he puts on, he is the exact same person off camera in person. Weather I agree or dissagree with his political views I must say that I found him an exactly what it says on the tin kind of bloke and it was a pleasure to be in his company

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How so?

You really need to be explain why an objective look at Nige's career would deem him a success? On today or all days?? "

So his success is to cause mayhem and confusion for most of Europe. He leads a party that is full of dubious intent and he has no real policies that stand up to rigorous testing. Maybe he is a success in you eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

Lmao. Best joke of this century.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lol he is a joke, he can be a stand up comedian instead."
!

Yeah, I bet Cameron's laughing his head off right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why would ukpid disband? Thats a silly thing to say. The work has only just begun. Boarders still open.. still free trade with the eu and free movement. Single midned people thinking that a sect is only for one thing is the reason they didnt get more seats. I love nige with all my heart. But hell no to him being a pm. Hes just a pre-couser to a better life for brittan. Not the final product

They won't disband, they will disintegrate because they won't be able to blame all our problems on the EU anymore

How exactly will that happen tho? Greens and purple together? Just because we voted out dont mean its all gonna change over night. We have work to do. And tories can fook off as the stank cameron left behing will linger in the public eyes. Now more that ever we need a more inteligent farage as the public have clearly voted."

I know what you are saying but he's been a protest movement and no longer has anything to protest against! I'm not talking about an overnight thing, but he did well - he won - bravo but he needs a completely different set of skills going forward so can he adapt?

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By *lttattoocoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"He's spent 25 years on his cause so you have to admire him for that. And as for those who prefer to be ruled from Brussels...have a nice day."

Is that ukip I smell you wearing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How so?

You really need to be explain why an objective look at Nige's career would deem him a success? On today or all days??

So his success is to cause mayhem and confusion for most of Europe. He leads a party that is full of dubious intent and he has no real policies that stand up to rigorous testing. Maybe he is a success in you eyes."

I didn't vote UKIP or leave. But it's democracy with all its warts. Your problem with him is that his success has come through an agenda you don't like, that's not objective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How so?

You really need to be explain why an objective look at Nige's career would deem him a success? On today or all days??

So his success is to cause mayhem and confusion for most of Europe. He leads a party that is full of dubious intent and he has no real policies that stand up to rigorous testing. Maybe he is a success in you eyes.

I didn't vote UKIP or leave. But it's democracy with all its warts. Your problem with him is that his success has come through an agenda you don't like, that's not objective. "

Indeedy,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lol he is a joke, he can be a stand up comedian instead.!

Yeah, I bet Cameron's laughing his head off right now.

"
Yes, he is regretting what he did now lol.

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By *ilthyjackcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wonder if he's on here and what hos username is xx"

Menage a ferage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man. "

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave.

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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Is that like Churchill? "

We'll fight them on the beaches...ohh hang on the tides comming in and its a bit parky...we'll give em a nasty Chineese Burn instead.

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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

Boris might give him a nice little job in Trade and Industry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Farage appeals to a certain section of the electorate. Thankfully that section is relatively small.

He's far too divisive to every gain serious office.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Is that like Churchill?

We'll fight them on the beaches...ohh hang on the tides comming in and its a bit parky...we'll give em a nasty Chineese Burn instead."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How so?

You really need to be explain why an objective look at Nige's career would deem him a success? On today or all days??

So his success is to cause mayhem and confusion for most of Europe. He leads a party that is full of dubious intent and he has no real policies that stand up to rigorous testing. Maybe he is a success in you eyes.

I didn't vote UKIP or leave. But it's democracy with all its warts. Your problem with him is that his success has come through an agenda you don't like, that's not objective. "
I have no issue with the democratic process its just life. I was responding to the OP in so far I think that Nige and his cohorts are divisive and devoid of any long term planning strategy. Not Churchillian in my view. There is also something of the night about him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

"

Caveat Emptor.

I don't know why us tax payers have to fund a national education system if it produces people too thick to question the claims of politicans.

We've made our collective decision and there was bullshit on both sides like every political debate since the dawn of time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. "
Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How so?

You really need to be explain why an objective look at Nige's career would deem him a success? On today or all days??

So his success is to cause mayhem and confusion for most of Europe. He leads a party that is full of dubious intent and he has no real policies that stand up to rigorous testing. Maybe he is a success in you eyes.

I didn't vote UKIP or leave. But it's democracy with all its warts. Your problem with him is that his success has come through an agenda you don't like, that's not objective. I have no issue with the democratic process its just life. I was responding to the OP in so far I think that Nige and his cohorts are divisive and devoid of any long term planning strategy. Not Churchillian in my view. There is also something of the night about him.

"

I wouldn't put him up there with Churchill but I'm not going to deny him credit as a politician just because I don't agree with him on anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Farage appeals to a certain section of the electorate. Thankfully that section is relatively small....

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Yes, a tiny minority of 17,400,000.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go."

So it makes him a 'bitch' / 'puppet' is what you are saying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last night may have been a victory for Farage but it's absolutely vital that it isn't seen as Farage's victory.

Fortunately, there are many who voted leave who think he's dreadful too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

churchill was racist too so i guess it's a possibility he could become the new churchill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He has effectively fired David Cameron.....not bad for someone the BBC has treat with disrespect for the last 2 years.

What ever you think of him ....he has made history.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Farage appeals to a certain section of the electorate. Thankfully that section is relatively small....

Yes, a tiny minority of 17,400,000."

Seriously?

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley


"lol he is a joke, he can be a stand up comedian instead.!

Yeah, I bet Cameron's laughing his head off right now.

Yes, he is regretting what he did now lol."

His pension will still be more than I earn in a lifetime!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Farage appeals to a certain section of the electorate. Thankfully that section is relatively small....

Yes, a tiny minority of 17,400,000."

Didn't realise they all voted to leave purely because of him. Wow, that is impressive!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go.

So it makes him a 'bitch' / 'puppet' is what you are saying? "
I m saying exactly what I am saying!

et legit intellegat !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go.

So it makes him a 'bitch' / 'puppet' is what you are saying? I m saying exactly what I am saying!

et legit intellegat !!"

I do understand. There are also implications to what you are saying that I also understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go.

So it makes him a 'bitch' / 'puppet' is what you are saying? I m saying exactly what I am saying!

et legit intellegat !!

I do understand. There are also implications to what you are saying that I also understand. "
Sorry you have lost me now!

Factus sum sicut homo simplicis intent!

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Last night may have been a victory for Farage but it's absolutely vital that it isn't seen as Farage's victory.

Fortunately, there are many who voted leave who think he's dreadful too "

Sorry but it is his victory, like him or loathe him he has spent many years campaigning for something he believes passionately for,without him there would not have been this vote,his party has some lunatics in it but he has defied all the hate and crap thrown at him, while I wouldnt agree with everything he says I have enormous respect for his bloody minded determination to win for his cause, this day is down to him getting the UK the chance to change our history and the majority agreed with him, agree with the result or not we should all be proud of the UK today,democracy has won, I wonder if the rest of europe's citizens are going to get the chance we had

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Well Churchill did say:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Suspect that, deep down, the odious charlatan Farage actually feels similarily.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go.

So it makes him a 'bitch' / 'puppet' is what you are saying? I m saying exactly what I am saying!

et legit intellegat !!

I do understand. There are also implications to what you are saying that I also understand. Sorry you have lost me now!

Factus sum sicut homo simplicis intent!"

If Dave did what you said then that makes him a 'bitch' by implication whether you want to explicitly use the term yourself or not. Look up the definition of 'bitch' in the dictionary of gangsta rap if you are still confused.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Well Churchill did say:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Suspect that, deep down, the odious charlatan Farage actually feels similarily."

I love the irony of those that call him a racist and bigot cant mention him without being a bigot themselves.pot kettle and black come to mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. Dave was told to put the question before the country by the Old Etonians that make up the 1922 committee and it was part of the last Tory manifesto. It was probably the chairman of that committee who told Dave he had to go.

So it makes him a 'bitch' / 'puppet' is what you are saying? I m saying exactly what I am saying!

et legit intellegat !!

I do understand. There are also implications to what you are saying that I also understand. Sorry you have lost me now!

Factus sum sicut homo simplicis intent!

If Dave did what you said then that makes him a 'bitch' by implication whether you want to explicitly use the term yourself or not. Look up the definition of 'bitch' in the dictionary of gangsta rap if you are still confused. "

No not confused in the slightest. The Tory party has a number of factions the strongest of which is the 1922 committee whose make up resembles a whos who of relics from the past who still believe we should never have given up the empire. They are like the god fathers of the right. All major policy decisions are run by them. It was in the last Tory Party that a referendum on EU membership would take place in the life of the parliament. So if that makes Dave a bitch (Gangam Style) then he is.

Still does not make me think Nige is a success and if a victory is being claimed then I would argue its of a pyrrhic nature.

On that note I am going et bibere cervisiam , et ridebit in nobis sanus !

Enjoy you evening!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well Churchill did say:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Suspect that, deep down, the odious charlatan Farage actually feels similarily.

I love the irony of those that call him a racist and bigot cant mention him without being a bigot themselves.pot kettle and black come to mind"
I am sure there is logic in that statement...........hidden deep in the meaning!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow.

Just wow.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Wow.

Just wow."

I know he's great isn't he...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

You mean the insurance company nodding dog mascot?

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By *ilkchocolate87Man
over a year ago

sw london

He is a peasant that cons the fickle. There will always be Room for people like him in politics

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Caveat Emptor.

I don't know why us tax payers have to fund a national education system if it produces people too thick to question the claims of politicans.

We've made our collective decision and there was bullshit on both sides like every political debate since the dawn of time. "

I didn't believe him. I rarely believe politicians.

Point is some people voted on the basis of lies.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man. "

He'll fit right into Boris's cabinet then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Caveat Emptor.

I don't know why us tax payers have to fund a national education system if it produces people too thick to question the claims of politicans.

We've made our collective decision and there was bullshit on both sides like every political debate since the dawn of time.

I didn't believe him. I rarely believe politicians.

Point is some people voted on the basis of lies. "

There's no cure for stupidity I'm afraid.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....

You mean the insurance company nodding dog mascot? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No - I don't think he's a Churchill in any form. Churchill brought the country together at a time of war! - for the moment at least - Farage has successfully campaigned for a referendum that has caused a split between the young and the old, Scotland and Ireland from England and Wales - and London from the rest of England. Scotland are already calling for another referendum to enable them to leave the UK and join Europe! In my opinion he's therefore the opposite of Churchill!

Going forward - I think whoever becomes PM (please God not Boris!) will, rightly or wrongly, distance themselves from Farage and his party as fast as they can.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"

Going forward - I think whoever becomes PM (please God not Boris!) will, rightly or wrongly, distance themselves from Farage and his party as fast as they can. "

Why would they do that?

We've now seen that UKIP is the natural home for most voters in England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a fan , nor would I vote for him , but he sticks to his guns and fought tooth and nail for what he believed in x for that he at least has my respect x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It seems the bitter losers need reminding that far from causing a split he's actually pulled together over half of the UK population and been a pivotal point of giving them exactly what they wanted .

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"It seems the bitter losers need reminding that far from causing a split he's actually pulled together over half of the UK population and been a pivotal point of giving them exactly what they wanted ."

Extra money for the NHS apparently

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"It seems the bitter losers need reminding that far from causing a split he's actually pulled together over half of the UK population and been a pivotal point of giving them exactly what they wanted ."

Pulled together half the UK population?

How so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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over a year ago


"It seems the bitter losers need reminding that far from causing a split he's actually pulled together over half of the UK population and been a pivotal point of giving them exactly what they wanted ."

Dividing the country" is a laughable concept, look at the electoral map of the last 2 general elections. Nobody has united the country with a good old landslide victory since Tony

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Going forward - I think whoever becomes PM (please God not Boris!) will, rightly or wrongly, distance themselves from Farage and his party as fast as they can.

Why would they do that?

We've now seen that UKIP is the natural home for most voters in England. "

I think it's the natural home for older voters - and perhaps those in deprived areas in the north. I've been watching the results and the political fallout all day!

The analysis of voting habits, as well as highlighting the gap between the young and the old - also highlighted that areas with a high percentage of well educated (ie degree level) residents also voted to remain in the EU - hence its divided the classes as well as the generations and England & Wales v Scotland & Ireland.

Of course I could be wrong - all anyone can do now is guess what will happen - but I really do believe that those who come in to power will try to extricate themselves from him - as his party is still viewed by many as a racist extremist party - whether they agreed with him on leaving Europe or not!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Failed to get elected 7 times to Westminster , only job he is guarantee was one he gets in with proportional voting system (I.e a donkey would win) in Europe where he has been paid 3.75M + 2M expenses plus 30k a year for his germam wife

Man of the people

Look up his eu voting record on fishing also

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They won.. Fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a fan , nor would I vote for him , but he sticks to his guns and fought tooth and nail for what he believed in x for that he at least has my respect x"

Agreed! I don't like either of them particularly - but I believe that Farage fought for what he genuinely believes in, whereas Boris fought to further his political career!

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

the next hitler maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They won.. Fact"

Well thanks for your well thought out input

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a fan , nor would I vote for him , but he sticks to his guns and fought tooth and nail for what he believed in x for that he at least has my respect x

Agreed! I don't like either of them particularly - but I believe that Farage fought for what he genuinely believes in, whereas Boris fought to further his political career! "

If he becomes prime minister I'm emigrating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They won.. Fact"

Indeed by the thanks of the older and pensioner votes

Young people voted remain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well talk of divisions seems a bit stupid unless anybody advocates individual countries of the UK or whatever having their own votes then it has to be a winner takes all.

So it the case that more people believe we should be out than in end of story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So do we change the vote to be be by individual counties in subdivisions by age groups..

Eventually we'll the right result

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Older and wiser x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Going forward - I think whoever becomes PM (please God not Boris!) will, rightly or wrongly, distance themselves from Farage and his party as fast as they can.

Why would they do that?

We've now seen that UKIP is the natural home for most voters in England.

I think it's the natural home for older voters - and perhaps those in deprived areas in the north. I've been watching the results and the political fallout all day!

The analysis of voting habits, as well as highlighting the gap between the young and the old - also highlighted that areas with a high percentage of well educated (ie degree level) residents also voted to remain in the EU - hence its divided the classes as well as the generations and England & Wales v Scotland & Ireland.

Of course I could be wrong - all anyone can do now is guess what will happen - but I really do believe that those who come in to power will try to extricate themselves from him - as his party is still viewed by many as a racist extremist party - whether they agreed with him on leaving Europe or not! "

Yeah but you have to challenge the cause and effect.

The economic benefits of the EU were not well distributed. Young, well educated people move to the areas what have the benefits (i.e south east) but we can't all live in London. Successive governments have neglected the north, Labour wanted to put them all on benefits to shut them up and Conservatives just offered a lot of rhetoric about a 'northern powerhouse' with no substance behind it.

I believe they voted out because the benefits of the EU weren't reaching the North as they should be so the obviously didn't vote to retain something they can't see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

You mean the one on the car insurance advert obviously.....nah, don't think so, the current mutt is far to charismatic lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah and if the remain camp had actually spent more time putting their case to the people of britain instead of spending most of their precious air time attacking Boris Johnson they might actually have won x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

Nope. He is an eejit buffoon. He is not the reason people voted to leave.

I am pretty sure that many potential Brexiters decided not to vote because of him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

As in sending the Army to deal with striking workers, caring little for the most needy in society; yes I think in those ways he could

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....

As in sending the Army to deal with striking workers, caring little for the most needy in society; yes I think in those ways he could

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"He's a vile, odious slug of a man.

So what does that make Cameron. Cameron gambled with the referendum in an attempt to kill of UKIP for the benefit of his party. Nice going Dave. "
Also to bring in a load of turks behind the british peoples backs a deal done by cameron and the EU signed and sealed litteraly Ian duncan smith spelt that out on the tv on wednesday saw a clip of his speech in Face**ok today he did,nt give a monkeys about it did cameron..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone remember Cameron invoking the spirit of churchill during the tv debate a few days ago? How we should remain and fight for britain in europe and not give up? Well now is a good a time as any to invoke that spirit and fight for britain and what does he go and do? Resign like a coward, what a joker x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think from chatting to people in the run up they made a huge miscalculation focusing so much on the message on the side of the bus.

A lot of people got bored of it and because neither has no real figures to deal with only fanciful projections it was never really probable either way.

While they wasted all that time they should instead have stopped spouting figures and concentrated on issues that average people did care about.. Immigration.. Laws and rights etc.

I mean does anyone really believe that the money gets sent to Brussels in a physical sense "every week" as Faisal Islam on sky news kept banging on to Michael gove about during the head to head interview.

Yes.. It gets taken through the channel tunnel every Monday morning in pound coins in a fleet of wheelbarrows..

Is that really an issue that deserves so much time at the expense of all others

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm not a fan , nor would I vote for him , but he sticks to his guns and fought tooth and nail for what he believed in x for that he at least has my respect x

Agreed! I don't like either of them particularly - but I believe that Farage fought for what he genuinely believes in, whereas Boris fought to further his political career!

If he becomes prime minister I'm emigrating "

Promise...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a fan , nor would I vote for him , but he sticks to his guns and fought tooth and nail for what he believed in x for that he at least has my respect x

Agreed! I don't like either of them particularly - but I believe that Farage fought for what he genuinely believes in, whereas Boris fought to further his political career!

If he becomes prime minister I'm emigrating

Promise..."

Yeah I'm not leaving fab though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not one for mincing my words but Farage is simply;

Deluded

Racist

Liar

Out of touch

Donald Trumps shadow

Baffoon

Has no policies and fucking clue

Yet people like him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not one for mincing my words but Farage is simply;

Deluded

Racist

Liar

Out of touch

Donald Trumps shadow

Baffoon

Has no policies and fucking clue

Yet people like him "

On what rational basis are you saying he's out of touch!!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why don't we just stop winding the other side up.

This type of rhetoric has already proved to be dangerous

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

This is interesting.

Another referendum? Haha

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

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By *ark074Man
over a year ago

nottingham

For better or worse he has become one of the most important political figures for decades. Inadvertently(or not) he has changed the course of this country's future history. We wouldn't have have had the referendum otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of people don't like him because he tells it how it is , he used to stand up for us in Brussels you've only got to look on you tube

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"A lot of people don't like him because he tells it how it is , he used to stand up for us in Brussels you've only got to look on you tube"

I'm still waiting on those 30 million Romanians he promised us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people love him. Strangely a lot of people also love Donald Trump.

Two of a kind if you ask me.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"A lot of people don't like him because he tells it how it is , he used to stand up for us in Brussels you've only got to look on you tube

I'm still waiting on those 30 million Romanians he promised us. "

He's got to wait for 10 million to be born

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Honesty and straightforwardness has no place in the 21st century, apparently.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"Honesty and straightforwardness has no place in the 21st century, apparently."

Nigel demonstrated that by saying extra funds for the NHS was a lie this morning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Honesty and straightforwardness has no place in the 21st century, apparently.

Nigel demonstrated that by saying extra funds for the NHS was a lie this morning. "

Headline: "Politician Lies" in other news, the sun continues to rise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personal opinion is i like him he seems pretty straighforward & Knowledgeable, watch youtube of when members of the EU have been trying to grill him he always 1 step ahead,

i think he will be (kind of) one of the best prime Minister's that never was.

i would like for him attend the meetings with the EU for the next few years as i think He would Get the Best deal For US rather than Us being walked over by the Eu

Would i Vote for UKIP in General Elections..., That all depends on the candidate and there policy's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't we just stop winding the other side up.

This type of rhetoric has already proved to be dangerous"

I agree.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Honesty and straightforwardness has no place in the 21st century, apparently.

Nigel demonstrated that by saying extra funds for the NHS was a lie this morning. "

This ridiculous snippet is the only thing remainers are cleaning on to...

She even phrased the question wrong and misquoted the actually bus campaign which said we 'could' spend it on the NHS...so two bit hack looking for a scoop..

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"personal opinion is i like him he seems pretty straighforward & Knowledgeable, watch youtube of when members of the EU have been trying to grill him he always 1 step ahead,

i think he will be (kind of) one of the best prime Minister's that never was.

i would like for him attend the meetings with the EU for the next few years as i think He would Get the Best deal For US rather than Us being walked over by the Eu

Would i Vote for UKIP in General Elections..., That all depends on the candidate and there policy's "

Nigel attend a meeting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope you all get what you asked for.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I hope you all get what you asked for."

Thanks...very noble of you.

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By *hilltoofarMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

He deserves a knighthood far more than most of the stupid people in the honours list!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" "

This is what England has become.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

This is what England has become."

It is what we make of it now. Instead of bitching let's revive the commonwealth

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"

This is what England has become.

It is what we make of it now. Instead of bitching let's revive the commonwealth "

Won't happen. As an example India choose France's fighter over ours. The Commonwealth is an accident of history.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Do I like Nigel Farage? Yes.

Do I think he went a bit OTT in the referendum campaign? Yes.

However, no matter which way you voted you have to thank him for giving you the opportunity.

UKIP was a fringe party with very little support but his leadership pushed them into the mainstream, won the Euro election, and scared the pants off Cameron so much that he was forced to promise the referendum.

For that I would push him for a knighthood. Many others less worthy are now called Sir.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

This is what England has become.

It is what we make of it now. Instead of bitching let's revive the commonwealth

Won't happen. As an example India choose France's fighter over ours. The Commonwealth is an accident of history."

Maybe because it was cheaper with lower through life support costs and India rarely (if ever) pays a price premium for defence equipment and hence why it's got shit loads of Israeli and Russian stuff too.

Not sure that one was much of a conspiracy!

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"

This is what England has become.

It is what we make of it now. Instead of bitching let's revive the commonwealth

Won't happen. As an example India choose France's fighter over ours. The Commonwealth is an accident of history.

Maybe because it was cheaper with lower through life support costs and India rarely (if ever) pays a price premium for defence equipment and hence why it's got shit loads of Israeli and Russian stuff too.

Not sure that one was much of a conspiracy! "

Not a conspiracy just not a viable international organisation for trade

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By *hilltoofarMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

I seem to remember a certain Gordon Brown revealing what he thought of the average voter during the election before last! Usual thing...if you disagree with someone then pretend they are beneath you. That's what has cost the Remain campaign this referendum...treating the electorate as too thick to make up their own minds!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

This is what England has become.

It is what we make of it now. Instead of bitching let's revive the commonwealth

Won't happen. As an example India choose France's fighter over ours. The Commonwealth is an accident of history.

Maybe because it was cheaper with lower through life support costs and India rarely (if ever) pays a price premium for defence equipment and hence why it's got shit loads of Israeli and Russian stuff too.

Not sure that one was much of a conspiracy!

Not a conspiracy just not a viable international organisation for trade "

It's a tough market to crack but Canada, Australia and South Africa are more realistic. Honestly, if we could pull something out the bag with China that would be the jewel in the Crown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I seem to remember a certain Gordon Brown revealing what he thought of the average voter during the election before last! Usual thing...if you disagree with someone then pretend they are beneath you. That's what has cost the Remain campaign this referendum...treating the electorate as too thick to make up their own minds!"

The average voter is indeed a cretin. The skill of politics is communicating with cretins though. Everyone knows the rules when the campaigns started and one side did better than the other.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"I seem to remember a certain Gordon Brown revealing what he thought of the average voter during the election before last! Usual thing...if you disagree with someone then pretend they are beneath you. That's what has cost the Remain campaign this referendum...treating the electorate as too thick to make up their own minds!

The average voter is indeed a cretin. The skill of politics is communicating with cretins though. Everyone knows the rules when the campaigns started and one side did better than the other. "

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Do I like Nigel Farage? Yes.

Do I think he went a bit OTT in the referendum campaign? Yes.

However, no matter which way you voted you have to thank him for giving you the opportunity.

UKIP was a fringe party with very little support but his leadership pushed them into the mainstream, won the Euro election, and scared the pants off Cameron so much that he was forced to promise the referendum.

For that I would push him for a knighthood. Many others less worthy are now called Sir. "

If the Queen would push a sword through him, I could certainly get behind that.

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By *a petite madameWoman
over a year ago

London / Essex


"It seems the bitter losers need reminding that far from causing a split he's actually pulled together over half of the UK population and been a pivotal point of giving them exactly what they wanted .

Pulled together half the UK population?

How so?"

28% abstained so surely the reality would be that most are not in favour?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I see some similarities between Farage and Churchill, have certainly both been associated with some racist views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do I like Nigel Farage? Yes.

Do I think he went a bit OTT in the referendum campaign? Yes.

However, no matter which way you voted you have to thank him for giving you the opportunity.

UKIP was a fringe party with very little support but his leadership pushed them into the mainstream, won the Euro election, and scared the pants off Cameron so much that he was forced to promise the referendum.

For that I would push him for a knighthood. Many others less worthy are now called Sir.

If the Queen would push a sword through him, I could certainly get behind that."
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Do you think that's what the right wing groups indoctrinated thomas mair with?, do you think that would actually solve anything?.

Your angry, it didn't go the way you wanted it to, i understand that!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems the bitter losers need reminding that far from causing a split he's actually pulled together over half of the UK population and been a pivotal point of giving them exactly what they wanted .

Pulled together half the UK population?

How so?

28% abstained so surely the reality would be that most are not in favour? "

You can spin it either way, the 28% don't care enough to defend the EU or they don't want to leave. I expect most of them were too d*unk, high or engrossed in day time TV to give a shit about anyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill...."

no god help us if he ever gets in to power he's a deranged lunatic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

This is what England has become."

Sadly Lib,alot of areas of England have been feeling like this for years.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary! "

How many times has he stood for parliament again?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"I see some similarities between Farage and Churchill, have certainly both been associated with some racist views."

...and stink of fags

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How many times has he stood for parliament again?"

That's a very strange logic. He's a protest movement (i.e an outsider) you can't judge the success of a protest movement by the number of elections. If he'd won a lot he'd be the establishment and not the protest movement!!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Caveat Emptor.

I don't know why us tax payers have to fund a national education system if it produces people too thick to question the claims of politicans.

We've made our collective decision and there was bullshit on both sides like every political debate since the dawn of time. "

this may be true.... but if everyone knew it was a lie from the beginning and you have been telling anyone that would listen for the last 3 months.... least let the pretense of your "truth" last more than 10 hrs after people have voted...

least have the decency to think more of people than

thats a bit like having a front page splash on a story....... but having a 2 line retraction on page 7 when you finally admit you got it wrong........ which the mail, the express and the sun all had to do this week when they all linked an immigrant story to the eu referendum....

the thing is people DID question it time after time after time... and they lied to out faces every single time....

they lied.... they got busted and they still tried to double down on the lie.... they got busted again... and people on here still excuse the fact they lied by saying "well other people lied!!!!"

i never want to head one more complaint about a married man lying about their status, or a person lie about their age.. or sexuality... or about a picture looking different, or a picture being them at all!!! because what we all did is condone a big fat fucking lie because it helped our chance!!!

I said i wasn't going to get angry.. and its not you personally.... but call me frustrated as hell....

we are all now it this together so we have to try to make it work.... but to see people gloating over duping people isn't going to help the healing process...

a little less ha ha ha... and a lot more humility would have been the way to go today... but i didn't see much in order....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

the thing is people DID question it time after time after time... and they lied to out faces every single time....

they lied.... they got busted and they still tried to double down on the lie.... they got busted again... and people on here still excuse the fact they lied by saying "well other people lied!!!!"

i never want to head one more complaint about a married man lying about their status, or a person lie about their age.. or sexuality... or about a picture looking different, or a picture being them at all!!! because what we all did is condone a big fat fucking lie because it helped our chance!!!

I said i wasn't going to get angry.. and its not you personally.... but call me frustrated as hell....

we are all now it this together so we have to try to make it work.... but to see people gloating over duping people isn't going to help the healing process...

a little less ha ha ha... and a lot more humility would have been the way to go today... but i didn't see much in order...."
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everybody lies to promote what's good for them, Exxon lies and shreds their own documented scientific evidence that your lifestyle of driving and flying is gonna fucking kill us all, of course this lie was busted for thirty years and you obviously stopped flying and driving didn't you!!!! I mean you have haven't you!.

That's not a personal attack but frankly my heart was hardened years ago!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else think he could be our next Churchill....Do you mean the dog in the insurance commercials? Probably not the dog has more to him than Nige.

Today there is a significant body of evidence to the contrary!

How many times has he stood for parliament again?

That's a very strange logic. He's a protest movement (i.e an outsider) you can't judge the success of a protest movement by the number of elections. If he'd won a lot he'd be the establishment and not the protest movement!!"
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#Deindustrialization

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Immigration won't now be reduced according to the leave campaign. It will be controlled

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Immigration won't now be reduced according to the leave campaign. It will be controlled "

i just think it was ironic that everyone was crowing about the UK having the worlds 5th largest economy,... and after the vote today and the consequence..... we are now the 6th largest.... being overtaken by france..... who are in the EU......

all people can keep doing is keep making them live up to every promise they made during this for the next 3 years.... and if by any chance they don't live up to every claim they made...vote them out...

and that would be every tory AND labour mp who stood by those claims.... its not a party political issue... its a trusting politician issue for me now!

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

Perhaps Fab should have an option to include political allegiances then we would have a better idea of who to avoid. Top of my avoid list would be any one who considered Farage to be anything other than a self promoting,lying opportunistic low life, followed by jingoistic, xenophobic UKIP supporters.

There - I have nailed my colours to the mast so feel free to avoid me if you don't like my politics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps Fab should have an option to include political allegiances then we would have a better idea of who to avoid. Top of my avoid list would be any one who considered Farage to be anything other than a self promoting,lying opportunistic low life, followed by jingoistic, xenophobic UKIP supporters.

There - I have nailed my colours to the mast so feel free to avoid me if you don't like my politics."

I think your political views and summation of Nige and his cohorts are perfectly reasonable.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Perhaps Fab should have an option to include political allegiances then we would have a better idea of who to avoid. Top of my avoid list would be any one who considered Farage to be anything other than a self promoting,lying opportunistic low life, followed by jingoistic, xenophobic UKIP supporters.

There - I have nailed my colours to the mast so feel free to avoid me if you don't like my politics."

anyone who supports Mr Farage would want to avoid us anyway since he declared yesterday a victory for decent people they clearly consider us not to be.

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over a year ago


"Perhaps Fab should have an option to include political allegiances then we would have a better idea of who to avoid. Top of my avoid list would be any one who considered Farage to be anything other than a self promoting,lying opportunistic low life, followed by jingoistic, xenophobic UKIP supporters.

There - I have nailed my colours to the mast so feel free to avoid me if you don't like my politics.

anyone who supports Mr Farage would want to avoid us anyway since he declared yesterday a victory for decent people they clearly consider us not to be. "
But doesn't that sum up the idiot? Those wanting to remain are some how indecent............ooops this is FAB!!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Perhaps Fab should have an option to include political allegiances then we would have a better idea of who to avoid. Top of my avoid list would be any one who considered Farage to be anything other than a self promoting,lying opportunistic low life, followed by jingoistic, xenophobic UKIP supporters.

There - I have nailed my colours to the mast so feel free to avoid me if you don't like my politics.

anyone who supports Mr Farage would want to avoid us anyway since he declared yesterday a victory for decent people they clearly consider us not to be. But doesn't that sum up the idiot? Those wanting to remain are some how indecent............ooops this is FAB!!!"

I would rather not get drawn into a discussion on his merits or otherwise but it doesn't seem sensible to me to imply that 48% of voters aren't sensible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO SOLVE THIS!

Let's put Harry Hill in charge and "FIIIIIGHT"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Is that like Churchill? "

Churchill wasn't an angel, he had quite a few controversies throughout his career.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Promised £350m for NHS if we left EU. Backtracks post vote denying he said it.

Is that like Churchill?

Churchill wasn't an angel, he had quite a few controversies throughout his career."

He did indeed and he was a rubbish artist too

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Comparing Farage to Churchill is akin to comparing Jedward or the cheeky girls to the Stone's or Muse..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps Fab should have an option to include political allegiances then we would have a better idea of who to avoid. Top of my avoid list would be any one who considered Farage to be anything other than a self promoting,lying opportunistic low life, followed by jingoistic, xenophobic UKIP supporters.

There - I have nailed my colours to the mast so feel free to avoid me if you don't like my politics."

Interesting. But if such a filter existed then I don't think I'd actually meet anyone. I like to get to the sex before anything vaguely political comes out of their mouth to spoil it for me.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Say what you like about Farage but he sure knows how to back a winner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely anyone who walks away from the victory of battle is less of an asset than those prepared too fight-on through a defeat in a campaign with many battles to come .....

He knows his limitations.....

Style without substance ....

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

Jumped ship when he won,what was all that about?.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst


"Say what you like about Farage but he sure knows how to back a winner. "

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Breaking news on sky news Nigel Farage and Aaron Banks due to meet with Donald Trump on Saturday.

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

I respected Farage, until he bailed as soon as we voted leave. Talk about cowardly.

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