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"17m vote out 16m vote in 13m don't vote Yes, I know it's the same story with all elections but did those 13m have an opinion? If so did they not vote because they thought (like the bookies) it was a foregone conclusion for 'remain' to win? If they didn't have an opinion, fair enough, but if they did and didn't exercise it what are they thinking today? Chances are the split of the 13m would be roughly the same as the 33m who did vote, but in a simple 'yes/no' vote it makes you wonder what it might have been. " . It thought I heard it was a 70%+ ish turnout | |||
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"17m vote out 16m vote in 13m don't vote Yes, I know it's the same story with all elections but did those 13m have an opinion? If so did they not vote because they thought (like the bookies) it was a foregone conclusion for 'remain' to win? If they didn't have an opinion, fair enough, but if they did and didn't exercise it what are they thinking today? Chances are the split of the 13m would be roughly the same as the 33m who did vote, but in a simple 'yes/no' vote it makes you wonder what it might have been. " Example ? Husband am out wife am in Are we going to vote ? whats the point | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long" Was just coming to say the same thing. But you know - fuck the experts...  | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long Was just coming to say the same thing. But you know - fuck the experts... "People feeling sorry for bankers losing their jobs? The mind boggles  | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long" that's fine, if they really want to, others will move here. Markets are rising already | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long Was just coming to say the same thing. But you know - fuck the experts...
People feeling sorry for bankers losing their jobs? The mind boggles "those positions being moved may not all be the speculating risk taker types, could be admin etc also.. and 2000 members of a major finance company will have a knock on effect to the local economy and the treasury.. | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long Was just coming to say the same thing. But you know - fuck the experts...
People feeling sorry for bankers losing their jobs? The mind boggles
those positions being moved may not all be the speculating risk taker types, could be admin etc also..
and 2000 members of a major finance company will have a knock on effect to the local economy and the treasury..
"EU has confirmed agreement to protect London financial markets ceases to exist. Happy days Frankfurt. | |||
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" Just have to get rid of Osborne now, a true snake in the grass" agree on Osborne but i think he's dog dirt also so just a matter of when, slimy Boris now there's another one to watch.. | |||
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"that's fine, if they really want to, others will move here. Markets are rising already " Err, yeah, but to nothing like the levels they started the day at. You can't fall 10%, rise back 5% and then just claim that 5% is all good. | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark." Shag please tone down the optimism  | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark." Please dont say that kronenbourg costs enough its £4.60 a pint here | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark. Shag please tone down the optimism "Fantastic | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark." Guess you didn't listen to the Bank of England this morning then, it was an excellent speech. | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark. Please dont say that kronenbourg costs enough its £4.60 a pint here " Yeah, bit expensive that. | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark. Guess you didn't listen to the Bank of England this morning then, it was an excellent speech. " I missed it, but I checked the bbc's market site, its all red. | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark. Shag please tone down the optimism "lol yes, lots of optimism | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . " Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap  | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark. Please dont say that kronenbourg costs enough its £4.60 a pint here Yeah, bit expensive that." Bloody is what if they refuse to supply?I will have to leave here and live in my place in Spain and drink san miguel but then i'll be an imigrant i could get deported | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap "perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote"She is a Tory now | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now "that's not nice, she has UK interests at heart I see Allan Sugar is being racist too | |||
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"17m vote out 16m vote in 13m don't vote Yes, I know it's the same story with all elections but did those 13m have an opinion? If so did they not vote because they thought (like the bookies) it was a foregone conclusion for 'remain' to win? If they didn't have an opinion, fair enough, but if they did and didn't exercise it what are they thinking today? Chances are the split of the 13m would be roughly the same as the 33m who did vote, but in a simple 'yes/no' vote it makes you wonder what it might have been. Example ? Husband am out wife am in Are we going to vote ? whats the point " That's fair enough logic. I wasn't saying that it would have a massive swing one way or the other, just wondering what the thoughts were of those who didn't and if they might have made a significant difference (in either direction). | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark. Please dont say that kronenbourg costs enough its £4.60 a pint here Yeah, bit expensive that. Bloody is what if they refuse to supply?I will have to leave here and live in my place in Spain and drink san miguel but then i'll be an imigrant i could get deported " Yes lets hope not or drink it in spain, although spain is a nice country and warm, good place to live in  | |||
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" Yes lets hope not or drink it in spain, although spain is a nice country and warm, good place to live in "great place to work, I may head back to cadiz for some work | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now "So are you saying that none of the 17.6m leave voters were labour voters when nearly all traditional labour heartlands did infact vote labour? | |||
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"Bloody is what if they refuse to supply?" Not a chance. This result is going to bring Europe's businesses and the EU political class into direct conflict. If they try to stop businesses selling to one of their biggest markets then they will become even more unpopular. The head of the German CBI says that tariffs would be a catastrophe for German business. The Italian PM today said he wants trade to continue as it is with no changes. Profits and jobs vs EU ideology - only one winner there. Today is the beginning of the end for the Brussels bureaucracy. Good riddance. | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long Was just coming to say the same thing. But you know - fuck the experts...
People feeling sorry for bankers losing their jobs? The mind boggles "It won't be just the bankers, ordinary jobs will be lost | |||
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" Yes lets hope not or drink it in spain, although spain is a nice country and warm, good place to live in
great place to work, I may head back to cadiz for some work"That is good and as well, we will move to El campello in a years or so time, they got a nice resort there and beach too. | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now
So are you saying that none of the 17.6m leave voters were labour voters when nearly all traditional labour heartlands did infact vote labour?"I have made the point elsewhere that Corbyn's time is up due to his lack of charisma in the campaign he failed to engage his own voters sufficiently to win the day. She ignored party policy and betrayed her collegues. Simple choice join the Tory party or stand down. | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now
So are you saying that none of the 17.6m leave voters were labour voters when nearly all traditional labour heartlands did infact vote labour?
I have made the point elsewhere that Corbyn's time is up due to his lack of charisma in the campaign he failed to engage his own voters sufficiently to win the day.
She ignored party policy and betrayed her collegues. Simple choice join the Tory party or stand down."It would appear that Gisela Stuart was more in tune with the traditional Labour voters than Corbyn. So she would make a good leader of the party. | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now
So are you saying that none of the 17.6m leave voters were labour voters when nearly all traditional labour heartlands did infact vote labour?
I have made the point elsewhere that Corbyn's time is up due to his lack of charisma in the campaign he failed to engage his own voters sufficiently to win the day.
She ignored party policy and betrayed her collegues. Simple choice join the Tory party or stand down.
It would appear that Gisela Stuart was more in tune with the traditional Labour voters than Corbyn.
So she would make a good leader of the party."Not only would she make a good Leader, she would make a good PM . . oh, and well said _urvymama for post above  | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now
So are you saying that none of the 17.6m leave voters were labour voters when nearly all traditional labour heartlands did infact vote labour?
I have made the point elsewhere that Corbyn's time is up due to his lack of charisma in the campaign he failed to engage his own voters sufficiently to win the day.
She ignored party policy and betrayed her collegues. Simple choice join the Tory party or stand down.
It would appear that Gisela Stuart was more in tune with the traditional Labour voters than Corbyn.
So she would make a good leader of the party.
Not only would she make a good Leader, she would make a good PM
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oh, and well said _urvymama for post above "She will make a great tory peer. Spat on her own party | |||
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"Will Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM . thats our way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . . Betrayed everyone should be deselected asap
perhaps in the eyes of the remain voters, but they were also in the vast minority who lost the vote
She is a Tory now
So are you saying that none of the 17.6m leave voters were labour voters when nearly all traditional labour heartlands did infact vote labour?
I have made the point elsewhere that Corbyn's time is up due to his lack of charisma in the campaign he failed to engage his own voters sufficiently to win the day.
She ignored party policy and betrayed her collegues. Simple choice join the Tory party or stand down.
It would appear that Gisela Stuart was more in tune with the traditional Labour voters than Corbyn.
So she would make a good leader of the party.
Not only would she make a good Leader, she would make a good PM
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oh, and well said _urvymama for post above
She will make a great tory peer. Spat on her own party "Again how did she spit on her own party when 1. Official party policy was mps were free to make their own choice and 2. More labour voters voted leave than remain | |||
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"You play a blinder when you don't lose "Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win. Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it. This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do.  | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! " I'm amazed that you think it's ok for the British public to cause a recession 48% didn't want this I'd give my right ear that if we knew then what we know now it would be very different | |||
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"You play a blinder when you don't lose
Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win.
Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it.
This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do."I get the thinking just I am not convinced he had any plan. Unfortunately I think this opens up Labour to more problems defending it's core vote. Without an effective labour party you get an unbalanced democracy. | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I'm amazed that you think it's ok for the British public to cause a recession 48% didn't want this I'd give my right ear that if we knew then what we know now it would be very different " I don't doubt We would have had a recession either way most of my life weve lived in a state of recession anyway and that was under EU rule | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long" On the good old unbiased BBC the bank are denying they are about to move anyone anywhere: "There will be at least a period of two years before an actual exit takes place, so there will be time to implement any changes required to adjust our business to the new environment. " http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120 | |||
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"You play a blinder when you don't lose
Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win.
Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it.
This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do."I'd this the "new politics"? Isn't he a man of principle? No he's a coward like the rest of his commy bastard friends. If you cared about the working man you'd put him out his misery and put Dan Jarvis in charge. | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I'm amazed that you think it's ok for the British public to cause a recession 48% didn't want this I'd give my right ear that if we knew then what we know now it would be very different " You'll be forever known as Van Gogh. | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long" I'm available to hold the door so it doesn't hit them in the ass on the way out. They'll probably just move to Scotland anyway, it'll be back in the EU soon | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I'm amazed that you think it's ok for the British public to cause a recession 48% didn't want this I'd give my right ear that if we knew then what we know now it would be very different I don't doubt We would have had a recession either way most of my life weve lived in a state of recession anyway and that was under EU rule " How many recessions have we been through whilst being in the EU ? | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! " Best post on here. XXX | |||
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"I'm tired of reading and hearing calls to keep a stiff upper lip, because it's going to get better. It won't. Even after things level out, the losses will have been massive. I'm also concerned that so many people voted on an ill informed basis. Believing that a leave vote will be tantamount to waving a magic wand over the UK's resource issues. That suddenly, there'll be places on the council housing register, jobs for the young'uns, and overall a greater sense of "Britishness", whatever the hell that it. Also, the remainers who voted on the basis that we can make the UK "great" again are deluded, because that term makes little sense and is totally irrelevant in 2016." I'm concerned that the majority of voters are being insulted with terms such as stupid , ignorant and ill informed. The bike spouting from the remainers because they didn't get what they want is truly sickening. Accept what the majority want, it's called democracy. Something that the EU know little of and perhaps why the were democratically voted out. | |||
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"I'm tired of reading and hearing calls to keep a stiff upper lip, because it's going to get better. It won't. Even after things level out, the losses will have been massive. I'm also concerned that so many people voted on an ill informed basis. Believing that a leave vote will be tantamount to waving a magic wand over the UK's resource issues. That suddenly, there'll be places on the council housing register, jobs for the young'uns, and overall a greater sense of "Britishness", whatever the hell that it. Also, the remainers who voted on the basis that we can make the UK "great" again are deluded, because that term makes little sense and is totally irrelevant in 2016. I'm concerned that the majority of voters are being insulted with terms such as stupid , ignorant and ill informed. The bike spouting from the remainers because they didn't get what they want is truly sickening. Accept what the majority want, it's called democracy. Something that the EU know little of and perhaps why the were democratically voted out. " Bile not bike. | |||
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"I'm tired of reading and hearing calls to keep a stiff upper lip, because it's going to get better. It won't. Even after things level out, the losses will have been massive. I'm also concerned that so many people voted on an ill informed basis. Believing that a leave vote will be tantamount to waving a magic wand over the UK's resource issues. That suddenly, there'll be places on the council housing register, jobs for the young'uns, and overall a greater sense of "Britishness", whatever the hell that it. Also, the remainers who voted on the basis that we can make the UK "great" again are deluded, because that term makes little sense and is totally irrelevant in 2016." No political alliance is permanent, they come and go, always have, always will. It's not like the EU was cut down in its prime. There were basically 52% of voters who hated it and want to leave and 48% who hated it and wanted it to be something it hadn't been for a long time. | |||
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"I'm tired of reading and hearing calls to keep a stiff upper lip, because it's going to get better. It won't. Even after things level out, the losses will have been massive. I'm also concerned that so many people voted on an ill informed basis. Believing that a leave vote will be tantamount to waving a magic wand over the UK's resource issues. That suddenly, there'll be places on the council housing register, jobs for the young'uns, and overall a greater sense of "Britishness", whatever the hell that it. Also, the remainers who voted on the basis that we can make the UK "great" again are deluded, because that term makes little sense and is totally irrelevant in 2016. I'm concerned that the majority of voters are being insulted with terms such as stupid , ignorant and ill informed. The bike spouting from the remainers because they didn't get what they want is truly sickening. Accept what the majority want, it's called democracy. Something that the EU know little of and perhaps why the were democratically voted out. " Or lied to. Appears already NHS is not guaranteed the EU funds promised. Next it's the farmer's to be disappointed ? | |||
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"A contact I have within HSBC believes the £ will sit around $1.13 for a good while and that we are looking at inflation rates of around 4%. The Euro rate is expected to be around 1.1 With the £140bn that dropped off the FTSE this morning plus the £250bn assigned by the Bank of England (which is our money) we are almost £400bn down in a day. In EU net cost terms that's 50 years of EU membership at the current rate. So.....yeah. Good job us "Except that: $1.13? The £ dropped after the spivs realised their profit gamble hadn't paid off. It fell to $1.33 and last time I looked it was about $1.39. Inflation has actually been too low and needs to be around 2%. Any sources why it will be higher? The FTSE 100 index began the day by falling more than 8% then regained some ground to stand 2.5% lower. A loss that would have barely merited a comment a week ago. It is still way above the 6,000 mark. Care to recalculate that £140 Bn figure? In fact it is the European Bourses that have been hit worse with losses of nearly 10%. And that £250 Bn is a stand by fund. It has not been spent and likely will not be. So it is not a cost. You forget this is how the spivs work. they sell at a high price, talk the price down, buy back at the lower price and make their profits to buy their Porsches ... The people selling the £ on 'shorts' end up owning the same £ they sold 12 hours earlier but bank the $ profit in between. I am sure you didn't mean to mislead us but I do think you ought to sack your contact at HSBC.... | |||
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"The markets are down, the prices will slowly go up on food, soon it is like ww2 in germany were one bread cost 10,000 mark." *whistles* "The chickens are half price at lidl ....but im keeping it under me hat " | |||
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"I'm tired of reading and hearing calls to keep a stiff upper lip, because it's going to get better. It won't. Even after things level out, the losses will have been massive. I'm also concerned that so many people voted on an ill informed basis. Believing that a leave vote will be tantamount to waving a magic wand over the UK's resource issues. That suddenly, there'll be places on the council housing register, jobs for the young'uns, and overall a greater sense of "Britishness", whatever the hell that it. Also, the remainers who voted on the basis that we can make the UK "great" again are deluded, because that term makes little sense and is totally irrelevant in 2016. I'm concerned that the majority of voters are being insulted with terms such as stupid , ignorant and ill informed. The bike spouting from the remainers because they didn't get what they want is truly sickening. Accept what the majority want, it's called democracy. Something that the EU know little of and perhaps why the were democratically voted out. Or lied to. Appears already NHS is not guaranteed the EU funds promised. Next it's the farmer's to be disappointed ? " Yawn. We heard that excuse after the Scottish vote. Caveat Emptor! If it doesn't turn out well then we can all relocate to Scotland which will no doubt be holding another referendum where it will leave and join the EU itself. | |||
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"Does this mean instead of walking about being paid to look like a farmer, farmers may actually have to farm now. " that made me chuckle.. will we also see in the years of austerity still forecast, a reduction in benefits to perfectly capable young 'indigenous' people who will replace the young people of the continent who have exhibited a good work ethic in picking the fresh produce on our farms.. | |||
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"Morgan Stanley already moving ahead with its plan to move 2000 jobs from London to Dublin or Frankfurt. Didnt take them long Was just coming to say the same thing. But you know - fuck the experts...
People feeling sorry for bankers losing their jobs? The mind boggles
It won't be just the bankers, ordinary jobs will be lost"What like the 10,000 at Ford's Southampton when they moved Transits to Turkey? Or the 20,000 when Peugeot shut 206 production at Ryton? Or the thousands when Dagenham was shut down and cars went to Germany? This country has been losing jobs thanks to the EU for decades. There is no such thing as 'job security' any more. So now if its a few spivs I really don't mind ... | |||
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Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win.
Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it.
This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do.
I get the thinking just I am not convinced he had any plan. Unfortunately I think this opens up Labour to more problems defending it's core vote. Without an effective labour party you get an unbalanced democracy."We have an unbalanced democracy now in my view. The Labour party has been drifting to the right since the 80's and with the revision of clause 4 in the mid 90's it changed from being the party of the working class to being the watered down Red Tories of Blairs New Labour. I think Corbyn is continually firefighting his own parliamentary party which is now dominated by red tories. "I'd this the "new politics"? Isn't he a man of principle? No he's a coward like the rest of his commy bastard friends. If you cared about the working man you'd put him out his misery and put Dan Jarvis in charge. " I think he is a man of principle. I also think he is a highly intelligent man who is picking fights he can win and letting his political enemies win pyrrhic victories while he saves his energy and ammunition for use when he can win and make it count. | |||
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" I get the thinking just I am not convinced he had any plan. Unfortunately I think this opens up Labour to more problems defending it's core vote. Without an effective labour party you get an unbalanced democracy. We have an unbalanced democracy now in my view. The Labour party has been drifting to the right since the 80's and with the revision of clause 4 in the mid 90's it changed from being the party of the working class to being the watered down Red Tories of Blairs New Labour. I think Corbyn is continually firefighting his own parliamentary party which is now dominated by red tories. I'd this the "new politics"? Isn't he a man of principle? No he's a coward like the rest of his commy bastard friends. If you cared about the working man you'd put him out his misery and put Dan Jarvis in charge. I think he is a man of principle. I also think he is a highly intelligent man who is picking fights he can win and letting his political enemies win pyrrhic victories while he saves his energy and ammunition for use when he can win and make it count." No amount of evidence will convince someone blinded by ideology but nothing in the last 24 hours has worked in labour's favour. Not that I consider it a bad thing given the clusterfuck that it currently is. As I say, the quicker labour wakes up to political dynamite on its back bench and gets rid of those fart loving communists, the sooner we'll have a close general election. | |||
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Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win.
Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it.
This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do.
I get the thinking just I am not convinced he had any plan. Unfortunately I think this opens up Labour to more problems defending it's core vote. Without an effective labour party you get an unbalanced democracy.
We have an unbalanced democracy now in my view. The Labour party has been drifting to the right since the 80's and with the revision of clause 4 in the mid 90's it changed from being the party of the working class to being the watered down Red Tories of Blairs New Labour. I think Corbyn is continually firefighting his own parliamentary party which is now dominated by red tories.
I'd this the "new politics"? Isn't he a man of principle?
No he's a coward like the rest of his commy bastard friends. If you cared about the working man you'd put him out his misery and put Dan Jarvis in charge.
I think he is a man of principle.
I also think he is a highly intelligent man who is picking fights he can win and letting his political enemies win pyrrhic victories while he saves his energy and ammunition for use when he can win and make it count."He needs to starting winning the political battlefield. Other parties won't wait around and will be keen to take core seats. | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I'm amazed that you think it's ok for the British public to cause a recession 48% didn't want this I'd give my right ear that if we knew then what we know now it would be very different I don't doubt We would have had a recession either way most of my life weve lived in a state of recession anyway and that was under EU rule How many recessions have we been through whilst being in the EU ? " Seriously???? How many recessions have been made by the British public Oh just this economic disaster | |||
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"The FTSE is trading up on opening Monday... Can someone please explain the crash... oh yes it didn't happen!" An exit was predicted Monday. Friday it happened. Plus markets don't factor everything in - it's often whimsical. Anyone who lost money this morning did in fact fully lose that money. You need to view things in the longer term, not pick 2 data points that could just be outliers | |||
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"You play a blinder when you don't lose
Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win.
Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it.
This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do.
I get the thinking just I am not convinced he had any plan. Unfortunately I think this opens up Labour to more problems defending it's core vote. Without an effective labour party you get an unbalanced democracy.
We have an unbalanced democracy now in my view. The Labour party has been drifting to the right since the 80's and with the revision of clause 4 in the mid 90's it changed from being the party of the working class to being the watered down Red Tories of Blairs New Labour. I think Corbyn is continually firefighting his own parliamentary party which is now dominated by red tories.
I'd this the "new politics"? Isn't he a man of principle?
No he's a coward like the rest of his commy bastard friends. If you cared about the working man you'd put him out his misery and put Dan Jarvis in charge.
I think he is a man of principle.
I also think he is a highly intelligent man who is picking fights he can win and letting his political enemies win pyrrhic victories while he saves his energy and ammunition for use when he can win and make it count.
He needs to starting winning the political battlefield. Other parties won't wait around and will be keen to take core seats."He'll have to win a vote of no confidence first | |||
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"Democracy in action and isn't it beautiful? The people have turned out in massive numbers and cast their vote. What if? What if? What if? The people had a democratic voice and it was used. You would never have been given that option if Corbyn or Miliband were in power. Remember that we elect governments on far less of a % of a far lower turnout and the question was posed to the electorate who turned out in numbers. If people chose not to vote, there is no come back from them. If you voted and 'won', remember that there are more battles to fight and we need to be strong. If you voted and 'lost' then remember that it was 100% fair and democratic and that is how democracy works and we wouldn't be complaining if we'd have won by an even narrower margin. And everyone lets recall, we need to work together to strengthen our country. Onwards and upwards. " Someone talking sense? It will never catch on. Which country will be next? | |||
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"You play a blinder when you don't lose
Not if circumstances force you to play against the side you want to win.
Then the trick is to survive without being labelled a traitor or coward while playing such a small roll in the battle that all can see your heart is not in it.
This is what I think Corbyn has managed to do.
I get the thinking just I am not convinced he had any plan. Unfortunately I think this opens up Labour to more problems defending it's core vote. Without an effective labour party you get an unbalanced democracy.
We have an unbalanced democracy now in my view. The Labour party has been drifting to the right since the 80's and with the revision of clause 4 in the mid 90's it changed from being the party of the working class to being the watered down Red Tories of Blairs New Labour. I think Corbyn is continually firefighting his own parliamentary party which is now dominated by red tories.
I'd this the "new politics"? Isn't he a man of principle?
No he's a coward like the rest of his commy bastard friends. If you cared about the working man you'd put him out his misery and put Dan Jarvis in charge.
I think he is a man of principle.
I also think he is a highly intelligent man who is picking fights he can win and letting his political enemies win pyrrhic victories while he saves his energy and ammunition for use when he can win and make it count.
He needs to starting winning the political battlefield. Other parties won't wait around and will be keen to take core seats.
He'll have to win a vote of no confidence first "Labour MP's need to see the car crash happening now to vote him out not admire the scenery as they go through the crash barriers  | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I'm amazed that you think it's ok for the British public to cause a recession 48% didn't want this I'd give my right ear that if we knew then what we know now it would be very different I don't doubt We would have had a recession either way most of my life weve lived in a state of recession anyway and that was under EU rule How many recessions have we been through whilst being in the EU ? " 4 - mid 70s, early 80s, early 90s and the most recent one the Great Recession that latest the best part of a decade in the 2000s | |||
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"And everyone lets recall, we need to work together to strengthen our country. Onwards and upwards. Work damn hard now we have made an idiot move "I think what a lot of the very vocal leavers seem to have forgotten in their gloating at the moment is there are 48% of people who will need to be brought along if this is now going to succeed I really tried to stay out of this as what is done is done and we will all have to face the consequences... But I do feel at times a tutorial in real world economics would be useful so you know what possible impact is coming Too late for sticking head in sand now | |||
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I've been saying the same all day "And you are right.... there are always winners and losers. That's just the way life is. | |||
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"I'm tired of reading and hearing calls to keep a stiff upper lip, because it's going to get better. It won't. Even after things level out, the losses will have been massive. I'm also concerned that so many people voted on an ill informed basis. Believing that a leave vote will be tantamount to waving a magic wand over the UK's resource issues. That suddenly, there'll be places on the council housing register, jobs for the young'uns, and overall a greater sense of "Britishness", whatever the hell that it. Also, the remainers who voted on the basis that we can make the UK "great" again are deluded, because that term makes little sense and is totally irrelevant in 2016. I'm concerned that the majority of voters are being insulted with terms such as stupid , ignorant and ill informed. The bike spouting from the remainers because they didn't get what they want is truly sickening. Accept what the majority want, it's called democracy. Something that the EU know little of and perhaps why the were democratically voted out. Or lied to. Appears already NHS is not guaranteed the EU funds promised. Next it's the farmer's to be disappointed ? " So Cameron was telling the truth when he warned of WWIII and famine ? | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right."Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either.. | |||
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"the Mayor of Calais wants the treaty renegotiated over the border check point in her gaff.. blatant political skullduggery.." This is absolutely obvious. It wasn't brought up in the campaigns as 'project fear' would have had anouther mark against it. But why Calais would harbour migrants when our border starts at Dover is silly. Once they are shipped to Dover they are our problem and it is highly unlikey we will be able to police the numbers. Either on the ports or potential boats across the channel that the French will no doubt no bother stopping. I also have my suspicions that if the economy does not settle within 2 years there will be an intellectual evacuation, either moving to Europe or English speaking countries. Professionals will have the financial means to move and qualifications for necessary visas (just to throw that one into the mix). There was an interesting talk about trade agreements were we only have enough civil servants to negotiate at most 2 trade agreements at any one time, a Brexit would mean countries outside of Europe that rely on the UK to trade with Europe i.e. India - UK - Germany, due to our power, will want a renegotiation. The discussion posed the question that a Brexit could potentially mean new trade agreements with 50-60 countries. Something we simply could not manage, and we would be be second best from. | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either.. "See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right."4 recessions we've survived during the rule of EU including the biggest of our time and they were supposed to protect us from them happening so what's one more in the grand scheme of things? | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made "Anymore stupid and insulting than the crass turkeys voting for Christmas comments | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either.. "You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive  | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made
Anymore stupid and insulting than the crass turkeys voting for Christmas comments "Not even close | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day "funny enough i said something in a similar vein earlier that gloating or 'told you so' from either side post the result will not assist the debate.. and i have also stated that it is what it is and we have to get on with it regardless of how we voted (i voted to remain).. raising valid points is not having a whinge or a moan as lets be honest this was always going to be a time of uncertainty if it went this way and there are many area's that no one yet knows just what the impact may well be and how long it will last.. reality is not sour grapes and for some the reality may be difficult, the truth is we don't yet know.. the result is a democratic one and to be respected by all of course.. | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made
Anymore stupid and insulting than the crass turkeys voting for Christmas comments
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made "Whats stupid is not respecting this countries democratic rights. People like you just want it their own way no matter what, which is nothing more than self centred and selfish. I have no respect for such people. | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made
Whats stupid is not respecting this countries democratic rights. People like you just want it their own way no matter what, which is nothing more than self centred and selfish. I have no respect for such people."On one thing I agree you lack of respect is clear to all | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive "Grow up, silly child | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
See... That's when it gets out of control when a stupid comment like that is made
Whats stupid is not respecting this countries democratic rights. People like you just want it their own way no matter what, which is nothing more than self centred and selfish. I have no respect for such people."Well with comments like yours the respect thing comes straight back at you | |||
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"the Mayor of Calais wants the treaty renegotiated over the border check point in her gaff.. blatant political skullduggery.. This is absolutely obvious. It wasn't brought up in the campaigns as 'project fear' would have had anouther mark against it. But why Calais would harbour migrants when our border starts at Dover is silly. Once they are shipped to Dover they are our problem and it is highly unlikey we will be able to police the numbers. Either on the ports or potential boats across the channel that the French will no doubt no bother stopping. I also have my suspicions that if the economy does not settle within 2 years there will be an intellectual evacuation, either moving to Europe or English speaking countries. Professionals will have the financial means to move and qualifications for necessary visas (just to throw that one into the mix). There was an interesting talk about trade agreements were we only have enough civil servants to negotiate at most 2 trade agreements at any one time, a Brexit would mean countries outside of Europe that rely on the UK to trade with Europe i.e. India - UK - Germany, due to our power, will want a renegotiation. The discussion posed the question that a Brexit could potentially mean new trade agreements with 50-60 countries. Something we simply could not manage, and we would be be second best from. " its another good job that in this time of austerity that we have not been cutting the Border force and immigration officials posts then.. oh wait.. | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive
Grow up, silly child"See..... Foolish That's quite singularly the most childish come back you could have said | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive
Grow up, silly child
See..... Foolish
That's quite singularly the most childish come back you could have said "Its called taking down to level that you might just understand | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive
Grow up, silly child"See..... Foolish That's quite singularly the most childish come back you could have said | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
4 recessions we've survived during the rule of EU including the biggest of our time and they were supposed to protect us from them happening so what's one more in the grand scheme of things? "a fair point. what is definite is the fact that the financial institutions always make the rules to make profit. within 4hours overnight there were zero parliamentary acts or buy outs/collapses but the money disappeared in the blink of an eye. that is the act of companies gambling with finance. oooh its definately remain buy buy. shit its not what i gambled, sell sell. | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive
Grow up, silly child
See..... Foolish
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"A contact I have within HSBC believes the £ will sit around $1.13 for a good while and that we are looking at inflation rates of around 4%. The Euro rate is expected to be around 1.1 With the £140bn that dropped off the FTSE this morning plus the £250bn assigned by the Bank of England (which is our money) we are almost £400bn down in a day. In EU net cost terms that's 50 years of EU membership at the current rate. So.....yeah. Good job us "was he one of the financial geniuses who were buying at 10pm last night because of what the last poll said? | |||
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"Bloody is what if they refuse to supply? Not a chance. This result is going to bring Europe's businesses and the EU political class into direct conflict. If they try to stop businesses selling to one of their biggest markets then they will become even more unpopular. The head of the German CBI says that tariffs would be a catastrophe for German business. The Italian PM today said he wants trade to continue as it is with no changes. Profits and jobs vs EU ideology - only one winner there. Today is the beginning of the end for the Brussels bureaucracy. Good riddance. " This and entirely agree. | |||
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I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive
Grow up, silly child
See..... Foolish
That's quite singularly the most childish come back you could have said "Maybe like most we're tired of the losing out brigade chanting from the same song sheet, you're like spoilt brats that won't accept what's been laid down and refuse to get on with it ...you just throw the potential threat of the UK collapsing around our knees about... This is why the strong voted out, we don't try to predict the future... we look towards shaping it... | |||
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"Hope no one loses there job as a DIRECT result of this
Already been told to expect redundancy in 6-18 months once the research project I'm working on is complete. After that I'm just a post grad with a sh*tload of debt looking for my next chance."Horizon and Erasmus might have been effectively canned but hey you can buy 100W lights bulbs to your hearts content (bad luck with the redundancy) | |||
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"Much sour grapes going around today. Out won, in lost. That's just the way it goes, grow up and get on with it...
I've been saying the same all day
My prosperity is at risk so excuse my lack of enthusiasm. I won't be railroaded into a celebrations with UKIP and the extreme right.
Then I suggest you move to north korea, they don't like democracy there either..
You obviously don't like other people's free speech Feel free to be repetitive
Grow up, silly child
See..... Foolish
That's quite singularly the most childish come back you could have said
Maybe like most we're tired of the losing out brigade chanting from the same song sheet,
you're like spoilt brats that won't accept what's been laid down and refuse to get on with it ...you just throw the potential threat of the UK collapsing around our knees about...
This is why the strong voted out, we don't try to predict the future...
we look towards shaping it...
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! " Spot on | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! Spot on "Could not have put it better | |||
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Really?
Now lets just examine what you have said critically.
After the disaster that was the last labour general election results with their support hemorrhaging throughout the country and collapsing in Scotland due to the continued adherence to right wing Blairite policies the Labour party had a plebiscite of its members and supporters. They elected Corbyn as their leader and you think the way to recover lost political ground with Labour supporters is for Labour MP's who have been sniping at Corbyn since his election to stage a coup and replace him with someone whose policies have been rejected by the party and its supporters as a whole?
Now I have been told many times I don't have a crystal ball and cant tell the future, but I am willing to bet that if the Parliamentary Labour Party do as you suggest then come the next general election the bloodbath that was the 2015 GE will look mild and Labour will join the Lib Dem's in the political waste bin. "I thought Ed went leftwards ? Wasn't paying enough attention. Fine make the manifesto as you see fit. My concern is ineffective opposition is bad for democracy in the long run. Maybe my appetite for risk is not what it was | |||
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"I'm pretty good with pattern recognition, and I see a grim future. I'm an immigrant, and I agree in every way with the idea that there must be a much higher level of control at UK's borders. Actually I believe that the refugee wave in the past couple of years is what pushed many pro-leave voters to choose that. On the other hand, the long term consequences are terrible. UK is a major, if not the biggest commercial node for Europe, at the moment. Much of the "wasted" money is being made as a result of the trade agreements and laws with the EU, which now will disappear or at least be renegotiated. Large foreign companies operating here will soon relocate or downsize, due to the new, restricted business environment. The value of a currency is given by how much it circulates. Restricted economical conditions mean less money flow, less value. This is getting too long, lol, and it's too late for anything anyway." The majority of the out voter were older generation that originally voted in so ask yourself what good did it really do if former believers jumped ship at the first oppertunity | |||
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"talk about turkeys voting for Christmas !!" ....or may be it's just a bit of true democracy for a change. | |||
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"I'm pretty good with pattern recognition, and I see a grim future. I'm an immigrant, and I agree in every way with the idea that there must be a much higher level of control at UK's borders. Actually I believe that the refugee wave in the past couple of years is what pushed many pro-leave voters to choose that. On the other hand, the long term consequences are terrible. UK is a major, if not the biggest commercial node for Europe, at the moment. Much of the "wasted" money is being made as a result of the trade agreements and laws with the EU, which now will disappear or at least be renegotiated. Large foreign companies operating here will soon relocate or downsize, due to the new, restricted business environment. The value of a currency is given by how much it circulates. Restricted economical conditions mean less money flow, less value. This is getting too long, lol, and it's too late for anything anyway. The majority of the out voter were older generation that originally voted in so ask yourself what good did it really do if former believers jumped ship at the first oppertunity " Maastricht was more of a formality regarding something that existed for decades. This was a vote of fear without judgement. And bad things followed such decisions in the past. That old generation won't probably experience the effects of their vote, so they followed their impulses. The next generations, however, will feel the consequences of something they had no say in. All that's missing now is Trump winning and 2016 will truly be a cheerful year. | |||
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"I'm pretty good with pattern recognition, and I see a grim future. I'm an immigrant, and I agree in every way with the idea that there must be a much higher level of control at UK's borders. Actually I believe that the refugee wave in the past couple of years is what pushed many pro-leave voters to choose that. On the other hand, the long term consequences are terrible. UK is a major, if not the biggest commercial node for Europe, at the moment. Much of the "wasted" money is being made as a result of the trade agreements and laws with the EU, which now will disappear or at least be renegotiated. Large foreign companies operating here will soon relocate or downsize, due to the new, restricted business environment. The value of a currency is given by how much it circulates. Restricted economical conditions mean less money flow, less value. This is getting too long, lol, and it's too late for anything anyway. The majority of the out voter were older generation that originally voted in so ask yourself what good did it really do if former believers jumped ship at the first oppertunity Maastricht was more of a formality regarding something that existed for decades. This was a vote of fear without judgement. And bad things followed such decisions in the past. That old generation won't probably experience the effects of their vote, so they followed their impulses. The next generations, however, will feel the consequences of something they had no say in. All that's missing now is Trump winning and 2016 will truly be a cheerful year." If the vote result was to remain that decision still would impact on future generations that had no say in it. The simple fact is no one knows for certain what will come of this but there are plenty self righteous people that think they do To all of those with such crystal balls please oh get them out to give you the wining lotto numbers at least your prosperity is safe then | |||
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Really?
Now lets just examine what you have said critically.
After the disaster that was the last labour general election results with their support hemorrhaging throughout the country and collapsing in Scotland due to the continued adherence to right wing Blairite policies the Labour party had a plebiscite of its members and supporters. They elected Corbyn as their leader and you think the way to recover lost political ground with Labour supporters is for Labour MP's who have been sniping at Corbyn since his election to stage a coup and replace him with someone whose policies have been rejected by the party and its supporters as a whole?
Now I have been told many times I don't have a crystal ball and cant tell the future, but I am willing to bet that if the Parliamentary Labour Party do as you suggest then come the next general election the bloodbath that was the 2015 GE will look mild and Labour will join the Lib Dem's in the political waste bin. "Tony Blair general election wins: 3 Corbyn general election wins: 0 | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! " I imagine it's easy to take this view if you ignore the reality, which is what defines the thinking of Leavers. You voted for £350M quid a week saving...big money, and a made up figure! The BOE have had to spend ten years worth of EU payments in one day to stop our national currency from collapsing. What a victory. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. This country is now split right down the middle. Their is a brave, confident and forward thinking half who now have to live with the spectacular mess you've made of our beautiful nation. God help us. | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I imagine it's easy to take this view if you ignore the reality, which is what defines the thinking of Leavers. You voted for £350M quid a week saving...big money, and a made up figure! The BOE have had to spend ten years worth of EU payments in one day to stop our national currency from collapsing. What a victory. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. This country is now split right down the middle. Their is a brave, confident and forward thinking half who now have to live with the spectacular mess you've made of our beautiful nation. God help us." And the braves first job is clearing up the spectacular mess it's become...do wave at us from the sidelines we love a little support | |||
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"And everyone lets recall, we need to work together to strengthen our country. Onwards and upwards. Work damn hard now we have made an idiot move
I think what a lot of the very vocal leavers seem to have forgotten in their gloating at the moment is there are 48% of people who will need to be brought along if this is now going to succeed
I really tried to stay out of this as what is done is done and we will all have to face the consequences... But I do feel at times a tutorial in real world economics would be useful so you know what possible impact is coming
Too late for sticking head in sand now "You lost. Debate over | |||
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"Whilst I'm very disappointed to see the outcome of the vote, and in no small part worried for the future, I'll be damned if I'm not up for the fight of keeping this country as an outward-looking tolerant and liberal nation which welcomes allcomers and has a decent welfare system. I think we've made a huge mistake, but there were many people who felt their voices weren't being heard, and we must not make that mistake again." | |||
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" Tony Blair general election wins: 3 Corbyn general election wins: 0 Which General election did Corbyn loose? I seem to remember Ed Milliband leading Labour at the last one and Brown the one before that." You've missed the point. You think Tony was too right wing but what he did won elections. Gordon went left and lost. Ed went further left and lost. Corbyn went so far left he ended up sitting next to Marx on the train journey there. But you think he's going to be successful! | |||
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"Whilst I'm very disappointed to see the outcome of the vote, and in no small part worried for the future, I'll be damned if I'm not up for the fight of keeping this country as an outward-looking tolerant and liberal nation which welcomes allcomers and has a decent welfare system. I think we've made a huge mistake, but there were many people who felt their voices weren't being heard, and we must not make that mistake again." too fucking right. | |||
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"I'm pretty good with pattern recognition, and I see a grim future. I'm an immigrant, and I agree in every way with the idea that there must be a much higher level of control at UK's borders. Actually I believe that the refugee wave in the past couple of years is what pushed many pro-leave voters to choose that. On the other hand, the long term consequences are terrible. UK is a major, if not the biggest commercial node for Europe, at the moment. Much of the "wasted" money is being made as a result of the trade agreements and laws with the EU, which now will disappear or at least be renegotiated. Large foreign companies operating here will soon relocate or downsize, due to the new, restricted business environment. The value of a currency is given by how much it circulates. Restricted economical conditions mean less money flow, less value. This is getting too long, lol, and it's too late for anything anyway. The majority of the out voter were older generation that originally voted in so ask yourself what good did it really do if former believers jumped ship at the first oppertunity Maastricht was more of a formality regarding something that existed for decades. This was a vote of fear without judgement. And bad things followed such decisions in the past. That old generation won't probably experience the effects of their vote, so they followed their impulses. The next generations, however, will feel the consequences of something they had no say in. All that's missing now is Trump winning and 2016 will truly be a cheerful year." the older generation look after and care for the young. Who do they go to when they need help, advice, care, wisdom, encouragement, shelter, money? Their parents/elders. It is their natural instinct. It was for the protection and sake of the young that they voted to leave | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I imagine it's easy to take this view if you ignore the reality, which is what defines the thinking of Leavers. You voted for £350M quid a week saving...big money, and a made up figure! The BOE have had to spend ten years worth of EU payments in one day to stop our national currency from collapsing. What a victory. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. This country is now split right down the middle. Their is a brave, confident and forward thinking half who now have to live with the spectacular mess you've made of our beautiful nation. God help us. And the braves first job is clearing up the spectacular mess it's become...do wave at us from the sidelines we love a little support " Yes, it will be down to us Remainers to actually do the work to clear up the smoking ruin you've left us. Leavers can carry on waving their Union Jack flags, the best contribution they'll likely be able to muster. | |||
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"Now more than ever this country needs balls of thunder...not miserable quitters.. " Yes, Leavers are miserable quitters by definition. That is precisely what you voted for. | |||
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"As a reply to shag on the last thread!. Poland is the new EU? Well they would be wouldn't they, they get shit loads of free money, who wouldn't be in favour of it, that's why Scotland is in favour of it as well, they get free free free and somebody else pays... Who wouldn't be in favour of that!. The day Scotland and Poland have to pay their own share, you'll see them go oh...errr , you mean we have to pay as well! ,I thought it was just the other lot!. . . Trading block, everybody pays the same fee, we all get the same benefit.... Evolve or die " This is my reply the-doors from referendum part 1. Yes, poland and the slavic countries have a tough rule against the islamination of the world, so by living there it would be like Europe as we know it and they dont give in like the rest of europe does and stand by their values and culture. I guess few countries get free money and you could say they are lucky as well on that point. | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I imagine it's easy to take this view if you ignore the reality, which is what defines the thinking of Leavers. You voted for £350M quid a week saving...big money, and a made up figure! The BOE have had to spend ten years worth of EU payments in one day to stop our national currency from collapsing. What a victory. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. This country is now split right down the middle. Their is a brave, confident and forward thinking half who now have to live with the spectacular mess you've made of our beautiful nation. God help us. And the braves first job is clearing up the spectacular mess it's become...do wave at us from the sidelines we love a little support Yes, it will be down to us Remainers to actually do the work to clear up the smoking ruin you've left us. Leavers can carry on waving their Union Jack flags, the best contribution they'll likely be able to muster. "Hmm I will hasten to disagree with that comment | |||
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"Whilst I'm very disappointed to see the outcome of the vote, and in no small part worried for the future, I'll be damned if I'm not up for the fight of keeping this country as an outward-looking tolerant and liberal nation which welcomes allcomers and has a decent welfare system. I think we've made a huge mistake, but there were many people who felt their voices weren't being heard, and we must not make that mistake again." Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment, how can we ever do that when we have half the country hanging around our necks like an albatross? If this referendum proves anything, it's that you cannot fight ignorance with facts, you can't fight fear with bravery, you cannot fight intolerance with respect. 'We' haven't made a huge mistake - we voted to remain. But we are doomed to live with those who saddled us with their mistake. | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I imagine it's easy to take this view if you ignore the reality, which is what defines the thinking of Leavers. You voted for £350M quid a week saving...big money, and a made up figure! The BOE have had to spend ten years worth of EU payments in one day to stop our national currency from collapsing. What a victory. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. This country is now split right down the middle. Their is a brave, confident and forward thinking half who now have to live with the spectacular mess you've made of our beautiful nation. God help us." First things first I didn't even vote I was undecided so happen to go with any outcome so no I didn't vote for the "catastrophe" we're "facing" | |||
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"Now more than ever this country needs balls of thunder...not miserable quitters.. Yes, Leavers are miserable quitters by definition. That is precisely what you voted for." How insulting you are because you didn't win reminds me of Cameron to be honest spitting the dummy being insulting. Get over it the majority of the U.K. Want a change and that's the desission that was made if you don't like it leave the country it's as simple as that. Mind you I'm sure even if you did that you would come across someone who didn't agree with your views and the circle would begin again. | |||
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"Whilst I'm very disappointed to see the outcome of the vote, and in no small part worried for the future, I'll be damned if I'm not up for the fight of keeping this country as an outward-looking tolerant and liberal nation which welcomes allcomers and has a decent welfare system. I think we've made a huge mistake, but there were many people who felt their voices weren't being heard, and we must not make that mistake again. Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment, how can we ever do that when we have half the country hanging around our necks like an albatross? If this referendum proves anything, it's that you cannot fight ignorance with facts, " It would have been nice if the Corbyn had tried though. The south west is the oldest part of the country and was always voting out, the south east was always voting in. The North held the balance and were crystal clear in their expression. | |||
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"Whilst I'm very disappointed to see the outcome of the vote, and in no small part worried for the future, I'll be damned if I'm not up for the fight of keeping this country as an outward-looking tolerant and liberal nation which welcomes allcomers and has a decent welfare system. I think we've made a huge mistake, but there were many people who felt their voices weren't being heard, and we must not make that mistake again. Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment, how can we ever do that when we have half the country hanging around our necks like an albatross? If this referendum proves anything, it's that you cannot fight ignorance with facts, you can't fight fear with bravery, you cannot fight intolerance with respect. 'We' haven't made a huge mistake - we voted to remain. But we are doomed to live with those who saddled us with their mistake." Why did the people who voted out make a mistake? The majority made well informed, consist decisions on what they felt was best, just as you did with your remain vote | |||
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"What happened to the British public?, when did the majority become a bunch of pansies? We survived without the EU before we'll do it again. This means a recession, well we've survived a few of those and we will do it again What's done is done, get over it and move forward the best way you can and bring out the fighting spirit we used to be known for. Regardless of the outcome someone was gonna be pissed off. To All the voters that wanted to remain if it's the gloom and doom situation you all think it's going to be time to join together now not bicker like little bitches about it, choose to show people you believe we're misguided a way forward And as for the pathetic "all the turkeys voting for Christmas" comments well some people like a goose at Christmas and it's perfectly acceptable to do so, maybe just maybe you think you've got a turkey and if you approach this with the right spirit there's a succulent goose waiting for you instead, but no no no lets all just be negative and butt hurt instead, grow a pair! I imagine it's easy to take this view if you ignore the reality, which is what defines the thinking of Leavers. You voted for £350M quid a week saving...big money, and a made up figure! The BOE have had to spend ten years worth of EU payments in one day to stop our national currency from collapsing. What a victory. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. This country is now split right down the middle. Their is a brave, confident and forward thinking half who now have to live with the spectacular mess you've made of our beautiful nation. God help us. First things first I didn't even vote I was undecided so happen to go with any outcome so no I didn't vote for the "catastrophe" we're "facing" " That's alright then! | |||
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No manufacturing industry to speak off and the financial centre is no longer protected. You could call yourselves the new Greece | |||
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"Whilst I'm very disappointed to see the outcome of the vote, and in no small part worried for the future, I'll be damned if I'm not up for the fight of keeping this country as an outward-looking tolerant and liberal nation which welcomes allcomers and has a decent welfare system. I think we've made a huge mistake, but there were many people who felt their voices weren't being heard, and we must not make that mistake again. Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment, how can we ever do that when we have half the country hanging around our necks like an albatross? If this referendum proves anything, it's that you cannot fight ignorance with facts, you can't fight fear with bravery, you cannot fight intolerance with respect. 'We' haven't made a huge mistake - we voted to remain. But we are doomed to live with those who saddled us with their mistake. Why did the people who voted out make a mistake? The majority made well informed, consist decisions on what they felt was best, just as you did with your remain vote "I'll certainly agree with you that they made consistent decisions on what they felt was best. As for well-informed...no. | |||
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" Why did the people who voted out make a mistake? The majority made well informed, consist decisions on what they felt was best, just as you did with your remain vote "Really? I've seen and heard plenty of people saying they voted out on the basis of the £350m figure which has been totally refuted. People thinking this will mean more money will go to the NHS, when it obviously won't. People thinking immigration will change, when that is totally up in the air. | |||
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