FabSwingers.com forum: The Official EU Referendum Thread

By *ezebel OP Woman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Ladies and Gentleman - the day is finally upon us...

In anticipation of a 1001 threads that will pop up during the course of the day we are going to keep all the referendum posts on the one thread....no doubt followed by Part 2...Part 3...

Thank ya kindly and Happy Voting!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooooh you're so organised

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Jez, ruining my queue

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By *ezebel OP Woman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Jez, ruining my queue

Be quiet or Ill stand behind you and poke you with my voting pencil

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By *ezebel OP Woman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Ooooh you're so organised

It doesnt happen very often

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give a voice and encouragement to all the poor of Europe today, vote OUT

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Is there a referendum??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ladies and Gentleman - the day is finally upon us...

In anticipation of a 1001 threads that will pop up during the course of the day we are going to keep all the referendum posts on the one thread....no doubt followed by Part 2...Part 3...

Thank ya kindly and Happy Voting!"

Can you close all other referendum threads please, then we can just have fabbing and humping in the Lounge

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I don't care what you're voting, the main thing is to vote today.... go on.... Do it now.

OK, do it after that coffee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So. In, Out or shake it all about?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

still not decided I will have to decide old school way eanie meanie my me toe or sumthing like that. I need help with eanie meanie does anyone now how it goes probly

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

Cast my vote an hour ago.. now to see what tomorrow morning brings!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"still not decided I will have to decide old school way eanie meanie my me toe or sumthing like that. I need help with eanie meanie does anyone now how it goes probly "

Which, eanie menie minie no, catch a tiger by its two, if it bites let it go, eanie menie minie mo

I'm off to vote once I've done the school run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Calling in to the polling station tonight, before judo.

As ever, I won't be revealing which way I've voted

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

All done as soon as it opened.

Off to Bournemouth for a weekend of debouchery. (With any luck)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will not have the chance to vote until around 7:30pm as working all day then have to visit dad in hospital and then off to vote before going home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm still a little undecided....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A vote to remain is a vote for the future. Isolationism is a trait of the past and has no place in a modern world.

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By *lex_the_CATCouple
over a year ago

Chester

"A vote to remain is a vote for the future. Isolationism is a trait of the past and has no place in a modern world."

First post in awhile so please be kind. .. But I do not understand the logic in your argument. Surely voting to say in a club of 27 countries is not Isolating than being a free country that can make its our deals with the whole of the rest of the world plus the EU ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just voted. Not many people around so hope the turn out is strong. This one's important!

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm relieved that our press rules mean there can be no campaign reporting today. It's just you and you vote now.

Whichever way you vote just do it. Don't bully others and remember that we have the right to vote as we see fit and for that to be counted and declared.

It's just the beginning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A vote to remain is a vote for the future. Isolationism is a trait of the past and has no place in a modern world.

'More'isolating, yes of course it is

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Voted by post about two weeks ago

Before we had to listen to all the garbage from both sides

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

I was going to vote but it's raining and I don't want to get wet getting in the car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll vote when I take the dog for a walk this evening.

At the general election she sat and growled at the party activists outside!

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World

So..... what we voting for, does anybody know?

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I'm currently in Madrid, so don't be too hasty with the closing of borders please.

I sent my postal vote back two weeks ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So..... what we voting for, does anybody know?

I think the truth is nobody bloody knows what we are voting for! They all think they know.....

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By *ilthyjackcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Voted.

Remain.

If you're still undecided then I urge you to vote remain. We can, as a nation, vote to leave at any time. Once we've left it won't be easy to get back in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's your democratic right to vote.....or not.

This will have a bearing on how I vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a remainer..... dont dance with the devil aka brexit.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

If you have already voted , good on you, I have and I am not discussing it any more, move along nothing to see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a remainer..... dont dance with the devil aka brexit."

We have been dancing with the EU devil for 20 years and our feet are bruised by the encounter.

I actually preferred the EEC minxy I asked to join and dance with ...

So Vote Leave and lets celebrate our Independence on the 24th

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've voted ...

And my lips are sealed as to who I voted for...

That's nobody's business but mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Off to vote shortly. How about a turnout sweepstake? I reckon it'll be pretty high for this one, so I'm going for 75%.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Off to vote shortly. How about a turnout sweepstake? I reckon it'll be pretty high for this one, so I'm going for 75%."

72%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

69%

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"69%

Surprise surprise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs P is voting the opposite way to me.

So I said to her we both won't bother as we'll cancel each other out. Then I sneaked out and voted.

We're one up

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By *ezebel OP Woman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Mrs P is voting the opposite way to me.

So I said to her we both won't bother as we'll cancel each other out. Then I sneaked out and voted.

We're one up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just voted, wasn't asked for any ID, had no registration form, only had to give name and address which they took on trust, had to use a pencil and my neighbour voted for everyone in her house

not the most rigorous governance I've ever seen and potentially liable to challenge I suspect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I voted out

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By *ezebel OP Woman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Just voted, wasn't asked for any ID, had no registration form, only had to give name and address which they took on trust, had to use a pencil and my neighbour voted for everyone in her house

not the most rigorous governance I've ever seen and potentially liable to challenge I suspect."

They gave one person multiple ballot papers?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

In or out?, I voted the same as my tummy button

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Just voted, wasn't asked for any ID, had no registration form, only had to give name and address which they took on trust, had to use a pencil and my neighbour voted for everyone in her house

not the most rigorous governance I've ever seen and potentially liable to challenge I suspect."

You've never needed to take your polling card to vote, the neighbour could have been proxy voting but I think there's a limit on how many proxies you can act as

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Done our's this morning. Let's see what happens. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm working away, can't vote, can someone who isn't voting go and vote "leave" for me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm working away, can't vote, can someone who isn't voting go and vote "leave" for me?"

I could get one of the kids pretend to be you??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm working away, can't vote, can someone who isn't voting go and vote "leave" for me?

I could get one of the kids pretend to be you??"

They could stand on each other's shoulders?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Is something happening?

I've got a festival to amuse!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is something happening?

I've got a festival to amuse!

Fuck those townie cunts.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Is something happening?

I've got a festival to amuse!

Fuck those townie cunts."

I know, right? Here's me dressed in white linen and a Panama... and there's all these unwashed oiks letting the side down.

I need a cigar.

ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not going to say which way I'm voting as its a private matter but I can't believe we have such an important decision to make in our life times. Looking around at work I wouldn't in my wildest dreams trust any of them to make this decision

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to remain, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Voted.

Remain.

If you're still undecided then I urge you to vote remain. We can, as a nation, vote to leave at any time. Once we've left it won't be easy to get back in."

Factually inaccurate, as we cannot vote to leave at any time. This is our opportunity to vote leave. We won't get another in our lifetime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm working away, can't vote, can someone who isn't voting go and vote "leave" for me?

I could get one of the kids pretend to be you??"

Never mind the future of our country I just voted for your gorgeous bum ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you..."

As have I for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Voting done came home and fucked Mr S hard and cum for Britain....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to remain, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Voting done came home and fucked Mr S hard and cum for Britain....

What a true patriot, I'm going to nominate you for a gong!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Voting done came home and fucked Mr S hard and cum for Britain....

What a true patriot, I'm going to nominate you for a gong!!

"
. Lol why thank you very much. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to remain, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

You keep making a spelling mistake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

You keep making a spelling mistake

I'm not giving in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to remain, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

You keep making a spelling mistake

I'm not giving in

I admire your spirit, but your spelling is terrible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going to call it early, I'm predicting a more than 55% vote in favour of Remain.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Going to call it early, I'm predicting a more than 55% vote in favour of Remain."

So you are predicting in line with the bookies and latest polls then?

You'll put Mystic Meg out of a job!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Is there a referendum??

Yeah, it's about who you want to win Euro 2016.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

You keep making a spelling mistake

I'm not giving in

I admire your spirit, but your spelling is terrible

My spelling is great, yours is awful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to remain, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

You keep making a spelling mistake

I'm not giving in

I admire your spirit, but your spelling is terrible

My spelling is great, yours is awful

It starts with an L, not an R

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget, those voting to leave, the polling stations open on Friday 24th June

Corrected it for you...

As have I for you

Re-corrected for you

You keep making a spelling mistake

I'm not giving in

I admire your spirit, but your spelling is terrible

My spelling is great, yours is awful

It starts with an L, not an R

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going to call it early, I'm predicting a more than 55% vote in favour of Remain.

So you are predicting in line with the bookies and latest polls then?

You'll put Mystic Meg out of a job!

Would that be the same Bookies who gave Leicester City no hope and the Polls who failed to predict a Tory General election win?

In truth its all too close to call and to be honest it depends if Labour can turn out 60% of their vote to Remain...

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

"Going to call it early, I'm predicting a more than 55% vote in favour of Remain.

So you are predicting in line with the bookies and latest polls then?

You'll put Mystic Meg out of a job!

Would that be the same Bookies who gave Leicester City no hope and the Polls who failed to predict a Tory General election win?

In truth its all too close to call and to be honest it depends if Labour can turn out 60% of their vote to Remain..."

I'm going for it being even closer than that I recon 51% leave 49 remain ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it."

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case"

If its a close vote will the tories go down the Norway route to deal with the EU ..i predict they will

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Going to call it early, I'm predicting a more than 55% vote in favour of Remain.

So you are predicting in line with the bookies and latest polls then?

You'll put Mystic Meg out of a job!

Would that be the same Bookies who gave Leicester City no hope and the Polls who failed to predict a Tory General election win?

In truth its all too close to call and to be honest it depends if Labour can turn out 60% of their vote to Remain..."

I think a good proportion of the traditional Labour working class will vote Leave today.

I got back home from work early, just been down to the polling station to place my Leave vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

If its a close vote will the tories go down the Norway route to deal with the EU ..i predict they will"

I think we will get our own kind of deal but who knows. Norway has a higher standard of living and lower working hours etc than the UK, so....anybody's guess

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Never seen the polling station so busy

Well apart from the once in a generation Scottish one

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By *ezebel OP Woman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Never seen the polling station so busy

Well apart from the once in a generation Scottish one

Probably be even busier next time you have the once in a generation Scottish one

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Never seen the polling station so busy

Well apart from the once in a generation Scottish one

Probably be even busier next time you have the once in a generation Scottish one

Exactly

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London

"I think we will get our own kind of deal but who knows. Norway has a higher standard of living and lower working hours etc than the UK, so....anybody's guess"

Last year, Norway imported 8 billion euros worth of goods from Germany. We imported 90 billion (and exported 38 billion). We are way more important to European manufacturers than Norway (huge market 65 million pop, 5th largest economy), giving us far more leverage than Norway or Switzerland.

As the head of the German equivalent of the CBI said only this week, imposing tariffs on trade with Britain would be a catastrophe for German manufacturers. If we vote Leave - as I hope we will - it will bring European business and the continent's political class into sharp conflict, from which their will only be one winner. Profit/Jobs vs politics - a simple choice.

If we vote leave, then it's the beginning of the end for the Brussels bureaucracy. Please let it be so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case"

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does the out vote mean leaving Europe in person as well as politically so that Ireland gets back Ireland and Spain gets Gibraltar ?? Just a thought for the "returns team" as a possible plan as there aren't any other plans for when Brexit Day is over...

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

"Does the out vote mean leaving Europe in person as well as politically so that Ireland gets back Ireland and Spain gets Gibraltar ?? Just a thought for the "returns team" as a possible plan as there aren't any other plans for when Brexit Day is over...

xx"

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

xx"

No, but my French friends asked that if there is a Brexit, could we please take Brittany

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By *ilderMan
over a year ago

dublin

Remain is the only rational response I would have assumed, i hope the majority in the UK agree with me or very dark days ahead for all indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you lay back and think of England....or Europe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you lay back and think of England....or Europe?

Neither, I think of sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The England squad are not allowed to vote today as they are unable to put a cross in the box

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

My brain says leave, but my heart says leave, probably vote leave i think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said to someone today , whatever the outcome it's a democratic vote so even if its not the way you voted, you have to get on with it.

First time I've ever queued at my polling station so looks like a good turn out.

Sarah

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

I'm in xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't care what you're voting, the main thing is to vote today.... go on.... Do it now.

OK, do it after that coffee

How about after work?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the uk should be divided up 50/50. Those who remain get west uk, leave get east. We then move.. V signing each other as we swap over. Removal companies will be busy.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"I think we will get our own kind of deal but who knows. Norway has a higher standard of living and lower working hours etc than the UK, so....anybody's guess

If we vote leave, then it's the beginning of the end for the Brussels bureaucracy. Please let it be so. "

Chicken tax mate chicken tax

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going to call it early, I'm predicting a more than 55% vote in favour of Remain.

So you are predicting in line with the bookies and latest polls then?

You'll put Mystic Meg out of a job!

Would that be the same Bookies who gave Leicester City no hope and the Polls who failed to predict a Tory General election win?

In truth its all too close to call and to be honest it depends if Labour can turn out 60% of their vote to Remain...

I think a good proportion of the traditional Labour working class will vote Leave today.

I got back home from work early, just been down to the polling station to place my Leave vote. "
don't know about that. Lots of traditional labour voters here are voting out.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

A woman has bet £100k on remain with expected winnings of £40k plus stake. Totally bonkers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

A woman has bet £100k on remain with expected winnings of £40k plus stake. Totally bonkers

She got pretty good odds relative to what's being offered now

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

A woman has bet £100k on remain with expected winnings of £40k plus stake. Totally bonkers

She got pretty good odds relative to what's being offered now

odds have been cut?

or shortened or whatever its called?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

A woman has bet £100k on remain with expected winnings of £40k plus stake. Totally bonkers

She got pretty good odds relative to what's being offered now

odds have been cut?

or shortened or whatever its called?"

Remain current 1/5 so if you had £100k to bet you could win £20k.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm starting to believe that the Remain camps fears of plagues of locusts and eternal darkness and damnation might be true, it is pitch black here, thunder and lightening and almost apocalyptic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm starting to believe that the Remain camps fears of plagues of locusts and eternal darkness and damnation might be true, it is pitch black here, thunder and lightening and almost apocalyptic

god is on the northern leavers side

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

A woman has bet £100k on remain with expected winnings of £40k plus stake. Totally bonkers

She got pretty good odds relative to what's being offered now

odds have been cut?

or shortened or whatever its called?

Remain current 1/5 so if you had £100k to bet you could win £20k."

thanks, interesting..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm starting to believe that the Remain camps fears of plagues of locusts and eternal darkness and damnation might be true, it is pitch black here, thunder and lightening and almost apocalyptic

god is on the northern leavers side

wasn't on mine when i walked the dog earlier, got bloody drenched..

oops i'm not a leaver..

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Any of Fab's Leavers who took a pen along with them to vote, out of fear that MI5 are planning to rub out their pencil crosses?

I just saw a video on Twitter where a Leaver was hanging around outside her local polling station all day, handing out pens just in case Leave voters forgot to bring one!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm starting to believe that the Remain camps fears of plagues of locusts and eternal darkness and damnation might be true, it is pitch black here, thunder and lightening and almost apocalyptic

god is on the northern leavers side

wasn't on mine when i walked the dog earlier, got bloody drenched..

oops i'm not a leaver.."

beautiful day up here, lovely day for a stroll to the polling booths

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Any of Fab's Leavers who took a pen along with them to vote, out of fear that MI5 are planning to rub out their pencil crosses?

I just saw a video on Twitter where a Leaver was hanging around outside her local polling station all day, handing out pens just in case Leave voters forgot to bring one!

I always bring a pen with me.

I don't know why as I live in a very safe Labour seat so regardless of who I vote for they always win anyway.

I have a little right-wing-crazy in me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Done ours in pen, and most people we Know personally that has been to vote also took Pens.

now all we have to encounter is biased vote counters when the ballot boxes get opened.

Makes you wonder in any election how many papers get misread & wrongly counted after all we are only human...,

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm starting to believe that the Remain camps fears of plagues of locusts and eternal darkness and damnation might be true, it is pitch black here, thunder and lightening and almost apocalyptic

god is on the northern leavers side

wasn't on mine when i walked the dog earlier, got bloody drenched..

oops i'm not a leaver..

beautiful day up here, lovely day for a stroll to the polling booths

we've had your weather for a change, except its warm (ish) rain ..

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By *rank n BettyCouple
over a year ago

Not meeting

Just cast my vote lets hope its the outcome i want(him)

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Any of Fab's Leavers who took a pen along with them to vote, out of fear that MI5 are planning to rub out their pencil crosses?

I just saw a video on Twitter where a Leaver was hanging around outside her local polling station all day, handing out pens just in case Leave voters forgot to bring one!

I always bring a pen with me.

I don't know why as I live in a very safe Labour seat so regardless of who I vote for they always win anyway.

I have a little right-wing-crazy in me.

As I said in another thread, if the forces of darkness are that desperate to ruin your vote, they'll spoil your ballot paper by turning your X into a cock and balls with a pen.

Or maybe the person doing the count will eat your vote!

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Done ours in pen, and most people we Know personally that has been to vote also took Pens.

now all we have to encounter is biased vote counters when the ballot boxes get opened.

Makes you wonder in any election how many papers get misread & wrongly counted after all we are only human..., "

You should have taken a spray can with you and marked your vote in graffiti, it's the only way to be sure.

By the way, how do you know the person doing the count isn't biased in favour of your choice?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Done ours in pen, and most people we Know personally that has been to vote also took Pens.

now all we have to encounter is biased vote counters when the ballot boxes get opened.

Makes you wonder in any election how many papers get misread & wrongly counted after all we are only human..., "

I hope that is a joke comment;

I have been involved in vote counting before. One thing above all else in UK elections is that the vote counting is completely and utterly scrupulous.

Vote count staff would simply not , ever, do such a thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Det Ins Reginald Stylo of the South Essex Stationery Theft Taskforce said: ‘We understand why a high-number of centre-right and far-right nutjobs are concerned that their vote in pencil will be altered when the polls open, but that doesn’t excuse the act of stealing a pen or twenty because they object to paying 12p for a knock-off biro in Wilko’s. If you are thinking about stealing a pen from Argos for the referendum, please consider voting by smearing the grease from a Pepperami all over your forehead and then headbutting the box marked ‘Leave’ on the voting forms – members of St John’s Ambulance will be standing by at polling stations to treat any cases of concussion and severe blood loss.’

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just voted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy.."
....We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Voted.

Remain.

If you're still undecided then I urge you to vote remain. We can, as a nation, vote to leave at any time. Once we've left it won't be easy to get back in.

Factually inaccurate, as we cannot vote to leave at any time. This is our opportunity to vote leave. We won't get another in our lifetime. "

Also, inaccurate. The U.K. can leave the EU at any time. Granted we as a country might not get to 'vote' to leave, but isn't that what we elect our government to do?

A vote in means power will remain in our hands, for now. It may not be perfect, it may not be correct. But if it's not correct, we can always leave. It we leave and it's the wrong decision, we can't just re-join.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Done ours in pen, and most people we Know personally that has been to vote also took Pens.

now all we have to encounter is biased vote counters when the ballot boxes get opened.

Makes you wonder in any election how many papers get misread & wrongly counted after all we are only human..., "

Is that the leavers getting their fix/conspiracy whinnying in early?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

Not as far as I know; 90% of my former colleagues; ( serving or retired) say they are going for remain. ( they understand what cooperation means).

You you can't say how " the army" is voting, as they haven't been polled as a group.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Done ours in pen, and most people we Know personally that has been to vote also took Pens.

now all we have to encounter is biased vote counters when the ballot boxes get opened.

Makes you wonder in any election how many papers get misread & wrongly counted after all we are only human...,

Is that the leavers getting their fix/conspiracy whinnying in early?"

tin foil hat time..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

Not as far as I know; 90% of my former colleagues; ( serving or retired) say they are going for remain. ( they understand what cooperation means).

You you can't say how " the army" is voting, as they haven't been polled as a group."
.......Forces magazine..90pc out.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

We both voted this morning to remain.

Many of my family and work mates are also voting remain.

Nita

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We both voted this morning to remain.

Many of my family and work mates are also voting remain.

Nita"

so they say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd registered early enough to vote but had not got the card through my door.So went more in hope that my name was on the register.It was thank god so am pretty chuffed at the moment.So if you have not been delivered a card still go down to your voting BOOTH.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd registered early enough to vote but had not got the card through my door.So went more in hope that my name was on the register.It was thank god so am pretty chuffed at the moment.So if you have not been delivered a card still go down to your voting BOOTH."

unless you want to remain

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

Not as far as I know; 90% of my former colleagues; ( serving or retired) say they are going for remain. ( they understand what cooperation means).

You you can't say how " the army" is voting, as they haven't been polled as a group........Forces magazine..90pc out."

Forces magazine ... Yep right; bit like The ARRSE website....NAFC. Full of comments by blokes who once knew someone in the Army, and thus think they were in the SAS .

Anyway, anyone who knows the Army, knows they always take the piss out of any survey or questionnaire .

Anyway, " the Army's" opinion is of no interest or significance .

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"We both voted this morning to remain.

Many of my family and work mates are also voting remain.

Nita"

Jeremy Corbyn says he is voting Remain, I'd bet he voted Leave in the privacy of the polling booth given his history with the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

Not as far as I know; 90% of my former colleagues; ( serving or retired) say they are going for remain. ( they understand what cooperation means).

You you can't say how " the army" is voting, as they haven't been polled as a group........Forces magazine..90pc out.

Forces magazine ... Yep right; bit like The ARRSE website....NAFC. Full of comments by blokes who once knew someone in the Army, and thus think they were in the SAS .

Anyway, anyone who knows the Army, knows they always take the piss out of any survey or questionnaire .

Anyway, " the Army's" opinion is of no interest or significance ."
...Come on now....just accept it....the british army are voting out..now go and play with your toy soldier's...ex-army my arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

Not as far as I know; 90% of my former colleagues; ( serving or retired) say they are going for remain. ( they understand what cooperation means).

You you can't say how " the army" is voting, as they haven't been polled as a group........Forces magazine..90pc out.

Forces magazine ... Yep right; bit like The ARRSE website....NAFC. Full of comments by blokes who once knew someone in the Army, and thus think they were in the SAS .

Anyway, anyone who knows the Army, knows they always take the piss out of any survey or questionnaire .

Anyway, " the Army's" opinion is of no interest or significance ....Come on now....just accept it....the british army are voting out..now go and play with your toy soldier's...ex-army my arse."

Didn't realise that because I'm ex army I have to vote a particular way.

Squaddies are individuals with their own minds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

If its a close vote will the tories go down the Norway route to deal with the EU ..i predict they will"

Well I will grant you have been consistent in banging on about Norway. I am not sure why you keep maintaining the UK, which has an entirely different, bigger and more diverse economic profile than Norway, will adopt that model.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

Not as far as I know; 90% of my former colleagues; ( serving or retired) say they are going for remain. ( they understand what cooperation means).

You you can't say how " the army" is voting, as they haven't been polled as a group........Forces magazine..90pc out.

Forces magazine ... Yep right; bit like The ARRSE website....NAFC. Full of comments by blokes who once knew someone in the Army, and thus think they were in the SAS .

Anyway, anyone who knows the Army, knows they always take the piss out of any survey or questionnaire .

Anyway, " the Army's" opinion is of no interest or significance ....Come on now....just accept it....the british army are voting out..now go and play with your toy soldier's...ex-army my arse.

Didn't realise that because I'm ex army I have to vote a particular way.

Squaddies are individuals with their own minds."

My thoughts exactly

, the armed forces can't direct their personnel to vote in any particular way. The poll in the magazine may, or may not be, representative. But surely there is no need for childish insults.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

A high and a solemn responsibility rests upon us

Some here, and on other sites, have talked about leaving the EU as being an act of patriotism to save the freedoms that our fathers and grandfathers fought and died for and that we are giving it all up by taking our rightful place in the EU and the community of Europe. I disagree. Our fathers and grandfathers fought for not only the freedom of the British people but the freedom of the whole of Europe and the world. This is what being in the EU and the community of Europe is all about. We cannot be safe or truly free if Europe is not safe and truly free. That was the lesson learnt between 1914 and 1945, is the reason why the EEC/EU was set up and we leave and destroy it at our own peril.

This is what we learnt and what Winston Churchill expressed in his speech to the Congress of Europe, in the Hague, on May 7 1948.

This is a précis of what he said:

We shall only save ourselves from the perils which draw near by forgetting the hatreds of the past, by letting national rancour and revenge die, by progressively effacing frontiers and barriers which aggravate and congeal our divisions, and by rejoicing together in that glorious treasure of literature, of romance, of ethics, of thought and toleration belonging to all, which is the true inheritance of Europe, the expression of its genius and honour, but which by our quarrels, our follies, by our fearful wars and the cruel and awful deeds that spring from war and tyrants, we almost cast away.

The Movement for European Unity must be a positive force, deriving its strength from our sense of common spiritual values. It is a dynamic expression of democratic faith based upon moral conceptions and inspired by a sense of mission. In the centre of our movement stands the idea of a Charter of Human Rights, guarded by freedom and sustained by law. It is impossible to separate economics and defence from the general political structure. Mutual aid in the economic field and joint military defence must inevitably be accompanied step by step with a parallel policy of closer political unity. It is said with truth that this involves some sacrifice or merger of national sovereignty. But it is also possible and not less agreeable to regard it as the gradual assumption by all the nations concerned of that larger sovereignty which can alone protect their diverse and distinctive customs and characteristics and their national traditions all of which under totalitarian systems would certainly be blotted out for ever.

Some time ago I stated that it was the proud mission of the victor nations ... to rebuild Europe from its ruins and make its light shine forth again upon the world. Thus for us and for all who share our civilisation and our desire for peace, there is only one duty and watchword: Persevere. That is the command which should rule. Persevere along all the main lines that have been made clear and imprinted upon us by the bitter experiences through which we have passed. Persevere towards those objectives which are lighted for us by all the wisdom and inspiration of the past.

A high and a solemn responsibility rests upon us here... ... If we allow ourselves to be rent and disordered by pettiness and small disputes, if we fail in clarity of _iew or courage in action, a priceless occasion may be cast away forever. But if we all pull together and pool the luck and the comradeship - and we shall need all the comradeship and not a little luck if we are to move together in this way - and firmly grasp the larger hopes of humanity, then it may be that we shall move into a happier sunlit age, when all the little children who are now growing up in this tormented world may find themselves not the victors nor the vanquished in the fleeting triumphs of one country over another, but the heirs of all the treasures of the past and the masters of all the science, the abundance and the glories of the future.

End précis

There is nothing patriotic in leaving the EU and the community of Europe and throwing away everything our fathers and grandfathers fought so hard to create. Don't under value what you have in the vain hope that some promised land of milk and honey exists in some isolationist future where Britain abandons its European friends and neighbours and paddles its own canoe of into the middle of the Atlantic. What happens in Europe will affect us whether we are in the EU or not. The only question is 'how much say do we want?'.

I'm voting remain for a better future for my self, my children, my country, Europe and the world.

VOTE REMAIN

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

so life has come down to being asked to back one side or the other in an argument between two right wing factions who are having a spat .... some fucking choice

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

You do realise, that the bad weather we have had and are still having, came from France (EU)...

Just saying...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Our fathers and grandfathers fought for not only the freedom of the British people but the freedom of the whole of Europe and the world. This is what being in the EU and the community of Europe is all about. We cannot be safe or truly free if Europe is not safe and truly free. That was the lesson learnt between 1914 and 1945, is the reason why the EEC/EU was set up and we leave and destroy it at our own peril. "

I haven't copied all of your post to save space but you confuse two issues to suit your preferred result. A choice of preference I support even if we differ.

Now when the UK was fighting for survival in 1940 after the rest of Europe had caved in to the German army we were only concerned with our survival. Patriotism played a huge part in that survival. Once that had been secured we fought on for European liberation. In short Europe owes it liberation and subsequent freedom to British patriotism, courage and determination aided by the USA. Without being rude we owe Europe nothing from WWII.

After WWII the military security of Europe has been maintained solely by NATO and in major part by the USA and the UK, the two biggest contributors in funding, manpower and influence. The EEC and the Eu have contributed absolutely nothing to the security of Europe. Where was 'Brussels' during the Cold War when it was British and US Forces based in Germany confronting Soviet aggression? The only time the EU has been charged with securing a part of Europe militarily was in the Balkans. And they screwed up big time by a total inability to make a decision other than Dutch 'peacekeepers' let the massacre at Srebrenica happen by walking away. It was NATO and in particular British Forces that brought stability and took on Serbian extremists.

Yes we all know the ECSC of 1951 was a great idea to use mutual trade to deter aggression between France and Germany. No one else .. just those two. The Treaty of Rome came in 1958 and that was basically a trade treaty as it created the EEC. Of course France was so grateful for us liberating their country that De Gaulle (who we sheltered, funded and equipped) kept saying 'Non!'. Until 1973.

The EU came into being 20 years later creating this horrendous political 'Union' that now dominates every facet of our lives . A domination we never asked for, needed or voted for. Given the disasters in Southern Europe entirely due to EU Policies and the Euro the Eu has now created the stresses and forces of division the ECSC was set up to stop 75 years ago.

Vote Leave and be rid of this monstrosity.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Don't be a tedious stick in the mud, vote LEAVE.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Funny how Nicolas Sturgeon thinks we are stronger together when it comes to the EU but not when it comes to the UK...

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Funny how Nicolas Sturgeon thinks we are stronger together when it comes to the EU but not when it comes to the UK..."

Because the two things aren't the same maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just put my X in the box, pressure off!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't copied all of your post to save space but you confuse two issues to suit your preferred result. A choice of preference I support even if we differ.

Vote Leave and be rid of this monstrosity."

Pssst. Could you please stop stating fact and let EdWally and the Cracken make up there own dolally agendas. They may not be factually correct, but at least I know while I fundamentally disagree with everything they say, that I am still sane

Vote Leave

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

to be honest i only asked one mate and he was on the fence but veering toward leave..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

to be honest i only asked one mate and he was on the fence but veering toward leave.. "

I guess as a military man you'd lose your identity being part of the European Army.

Which makes me wonder, if the new European army did go to war, could the French surrender on our behalf?

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Funny how Nicolas Sturgeon thinks we are stronger together when it comes to the EU but not when it comes to the UK...

Because the two things aren't the same maybe? "

True Scotland couldn't survive without the support from the rest of the UK...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon. "

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

I haven't copied all of your post to save space but you confuse two issues to suit your preferred result. A choice of preference I support even if we differ.

Vote Leave and be rid of this monstrosity."

No! We need to persevere, not quit and abandon Europe to fall into a quagmire. In the end we can not separate ourselves from Europe and what happens in Europe. The best we can do is to try and steer it in the direction we want, which is a free democratic Europe governed under the rule of law. Europe, and the EU, needs Britain's input now more than ever before. We will achieve nothing but uncertainty, discord and bad feeling by walking away. The lessons from history should tell us such. Europe's peril is our peril. We cannot, never have and never will be able to insulate ourselves from it. To try to is the highest folly and leaves not only Europe but Britain in grave peril. We need to learn from the lessons of history, not constantly repeat them.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

to be honest i only asked one mate and he was on the fence but veering toward leave..

I guess as a military man you'd lose your identity being part of the European Army.

Which makes me wonder, if the new European army did go to war, could the French surrender on our behalf?

Ben i'm bloody 57 lol, i left the forces in 89..

not sure why anyone would think that working together with our closest neighbours is a bad thing from a global perspective..

we need mates with big hammers as we seem to have sold ours off..

not sure why anyone slags off the French, they nearly took over most of Europe under Napoleon and gave a lot in the first world war..

certainly when i was in no one messed with some of their elite guys..

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

I had to queue on the car park - never known the voting hall to be so busy

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Being cynical, if we stay I think we will be punished for daring to question the EU...

There is nothing stopping the EU from deciding not to honour the agreementsame they have made with Cameron and they have said we are getting all that we will ever get.

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

"Being cynical, if we stay I think we will be punished for daring to question the EU...

There is nothing stopping the EU from deciding not to honour the agreementsame they have made with Cameron and they have said we are getting all that we will ever get."

And if we leave we will be hammered by the ue to discourage other nations from leaving ..so in is a better deal ....

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Being cynical, if we stay I think we will be punished for daring to question the EU...

There is nothing stopping the EU from deciding not to honour the agreementsame they have made with Cameron and they have said we are getting all that we will ever get."

How would that benefit them?

I just saw this on Twitter, really made me laugh:

'VOTERS BEWARE! If they can rub out your pencil crosses, they can also tear up your polling card. Remember to take a PEN and a LAMINATOR.'

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

"Setting off in half an hour with a big group of ex-army pal's...the British army are voting out.

your not the British army, maybe a section or even a troop..

stay dry and enjoy......We have done our poll's...the vast majority of the british army are voting out.

to be honest i only asked one mate and he was on the fence but veering toward leave..

I guess as a military man you'd lose your identity being part of the European Army.

Which makes me wonder, if the new European army did go to war, could the French surrender on our behalf?

Ben i'm bloody 57 lol, i left the forces in 89..

not sure why anyone would think that working together with our closest neighbours is a bad thing from a global perspective..

we need mates with big hammers as we seem to have sold ours off..

not sure why anyone slags off the French, they nearly took over most of Europe under Napoleon and gave a lot in the first world war..

certainly when i was in no one messed with some of their elite guys.. "

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Staying in is more fun than pulling out too early

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Being cynical, if we stay I think we will be punished for daring to question the EU...

There is nothing stopping the EU from deciding not to honour the agreementsame they have made with Cameron and they have said we are getting all that we will ever get."

There is nothing either in law that says the government or parliament has to abide by the referendum result, but it will. There is international law that binds all organisations, including countries and international organizations, to agreements they have made but, in essence, you're correct, the EU could refuse to honor its commitments to Britain but it won't. All organisations require a minimum level of credibility and going back on agreements tends to very quickly backfire on those that do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

some may want to trigger a second referendum to be seperated from the uk. And be am independent country. The uk would be out and they join the eu.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Well we will find out soon enough...

From my point of _iew, it's better to get out before the EU crumbles as I think it eventually will...

Hope I am proved wrong...

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Staying in is more fun than pulling out too early

There aren't enough political swinging metaphors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

Step 1. Vote out to get the whole uk out

Step 2. Trigger 2nd scot. ref. To be independent

Step 3. Join eu

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

Step 1. Vote out to get the whole uk out

Step 2. Trigger 2nd scot. ref. To be independent

Step 3. Join eu "

You can't join the EU if a majority of your population has just declared on the books that they want out.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Jez, ruining my queue

Be quiet or Ill stand behind you and poke you with my voting pencil

The brutality of your penciled actions are bringing out the pencil support threads Jez.

Now poke a little lower, no lower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

Step 1. Vote out to get the whole uk out

Step 2. Trigger 2nd scot. ref. To be independent

Step 3. Join eu

You can't join the EU if a majority of your population has just declared on the books that they want out. "
they would be voting out as uk citizens.. Not scots.? Anyway.. A hyperthetical scenario.. They'd be stuffed as they have no real economy to be accepted into the eu. They have been turned down for joining the euro.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

Step 1. Vote out to get the whole uk out

Step 2. Trigger 2nd scot. ref. To be independent

Step 3. Join eu "

Step 4. Spain block Scotland joining the EU which they said they would do during the Scottish referendum, because of the Catelonia issue of independence in Spain.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

Step 1. Vote out to get the whole uk out

Step 2. Trigger 2nd scot. ref. To be independent

Step 3. Join eu

Step 4. Spain block Scotland joining the EU which they said they would do during the Scottish referendum, because of the Catelonia issue of independence in Spain. "

Not only did they say they would do it. They will do it.

An independent Scotland or any other devolved country hasn't got a hope in hell of joining.

Certainly Spain and probably France, and maybe Germany will always block.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £ and FTSE 100 are up, as the city poll reaction is that we're staying in Europe.

Just got to find out where the voting is, so I can do it.

all that that tells you is that despite all the scare stories the traders aren't too worried about a Brexit. If they were they would have both been down and remained down weeks ago just in case

I think it tells you the markets are expecting a Remain vote, and if you put some money on your FTSE before today's close you might make some cash

A woman has bet £100k on remain with expected winnings of £40k plus stake. Totally bonkers

She got pretty good odds relative to what's being offered now

odds have been cut?

or shortened or whatever its called?

Remain current 1/5 so if you had £100k to bet you could win £20k.

thanks, interesting..

Down to 1/9 on bet365 with them putting the under/over on remain 54.5% of the vote

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By *rRuhbarbMan
over a year ago

London

Simply listen to an expert - https://youtu.be/USTypBKEd8Y

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By *rRuhbarbMan
over a year ago

London

They are worried but the are privately polling to get ahead of the hedge funds

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I've voted. That's all I will say.

Whatever is the result is the result.

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Bumbaclarrt

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

I haven't copied all of your post to save space but you confuse two issues to suit your preferred result. A choice of preference I support even if we differ.

Vote Leave and be rid of this monstrosity.

The trouble with that is the EU cannot be reformed. David Cameron's attempt at renegotiation highlighted that perfectly, the EU is fundamentally opposed to any kind of meaningful reform. At the heart of the EU project the unelected commissioners who hold all the power and run everything, they are unapologetic federalists. They don't want a free and democratic Europe, they want a federal superstate called the United States of Europe, with democracy in nation states watered down, national identity dissolved and a moving of power to a centralised government based in Brussels. You are kidding yourself and anyone else if you think it can be changed or will change. By leaving the EU and being successful outside of it Britain can be a beacon of hope to all those in the EU that want out but don't yet have a voice. The EU has been a complete and utter failure, as Andrea Leadsome said on the Wembley debate on BBC 1 on Tuesday, "the EU couldn't organise a takeaway on a Friday night". The Euro is a failure, Schengen is a failure as we have seen nation states erect their own border controls again, migration crisis failure, the EU interjection in the war in the Balkans, a failure. It seems to lurch from one failure to the next. Whatever the result of this referendum tonight, the EU will ultimately be a failure, it's just a matter of time before the whole thing collapses, I just hope the British public take the sensible option and we get out of this monstrosity before its too late.

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By *rRuhbarbMan
over a year ago

London

In a few years time people will wonder why the hell was the brexit campaign allowed to spread so much dis-information

To save the Anglo-Irish agreement and prevent a return to the troubles vote Remain

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"THE SCOTS could vote tactically .. If they want a second referendum to go independent.. They vote leave. If the uk leaves, that would trigger it according to sturgeon.

Why would they vote leave and then want to join the EU?

They're hoping England votes to leave and they vote to stay.

Joined up thinking please.

Step 1. Vote out to get the whole uk out

Step 2. Trigger 2nd scot. ref. To be independent

Step 3. Join eu "

Some may think that but the second referendum in Scotland strategy only really works if Scotland votes overwhelmingly to remain and the rest of the UK votes to leave. If Scotland also votes to leave or only narrowly votes to remain then there is little mandate for a second referendum.

Also, whilst a vote to leave does make a second Scottish referendum more likely I actually think, regardless of which way Scotland votes in this referendum, an independent Scotland in the EU with the rest of the UK outside the EU would actually increase the possible differences between England and Scotland and make all the arguments for Scotland remaining in the UK even stronger. There is no guarantee that Scotland would vote for independence and, in my opinion, would be less likely to.

All that being said the best way vote in this referendum, whether Scottish, English or anything else, is on whether you feel the UK should remain in the EU or not and nothing else. For me it's clear we are and I have voted Remain.

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By *tarlight7365Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

I haven't copied all of your post to save space but you confuse two issues to suit your preferred result. A choice of preference I support even if we differ.

Vote Leave and be rid of this monstrosity."

Very very well said and remembered, leave and give us back the GREAT in Great Britain that are farthers and for father earned all those years ago....

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