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"Daughter and I went to visit her friend who has just given birth a couple of weeks back. Gorgeous little baba. While we were chatting she received a text message from her midwife saying she needed to test the baby again as the Cystic fibrosis blood result was 'inconclusive' and could she call back to arrange a convenient time ASAP to retest. I saw his mummy visibly pale and panic. What an utterly stupid midwife to leave such a message on a mobile. Some things are best said face to face with a little reassurance to new parents, of how these tests can give such a result. It hung around in the air while we were there with intermittent reassuring noises from me and my daughter but I was also worried. Pah!" That's a very cold way of letting her know she needed more tests, hope everything worked out | |||
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"Dear God that's awful,hope the baby is fine.Are they carriers of the cf gene? This will become more and more common alas.Midwives and health visitors used to be experienced nurses who went on to specialise.Now u can qualify straight as them,i remember my health visitor student asking if my baby always made that noise when he fed.She had clearly never seen someone breastfeed!Now i am a breast feeding counsellor,so ignored her but if i had been a first time mum i could have worried i was doing something wrong." One of my soothing noises was 'Im sure you'd have found out by now if you were both carriers of the CF gene' but in my heart I thought highly unlikely. Sometimes its a pain in the arse being old and experienced in life. Should know results by end of week. | |||
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"Maybe the midwife thought that the patients already on her list needed seeing as a matter of importance, but that the message needed passing but she/he wasn't able to make a visit in good time. NHS staff are pretty busy these days and have to prioritise." I totally agree re leaving a message - my daughter is a medic in nhs and I see her time scales first hand.. but midwife could have rang and said can you give me a ring to make an appointment without going into detail of why till they had the opportunity to speak. No new parents would ignore a midwife call would they? | |||
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"Dear God that's awful,hope the baby is fine.Are they carriers of the cf gene? This will become more and more common alas.Midwives and health visitors used to be experienced nurses who went on to specialise.Now u can qualify straight as them,i remember my health visitor student asking if my baby always made that noise when he fed.She had clearly never seen someone breastfeed!Now i am a breast feeding counsellor,so ignored her but if i had been a first time mum i could have worried i was doing something wrong. One of my soothing noises was 'Im sure you'd have found out by now if you were both carriers of the CF gene' but in my heart I thought highly unlikely. Sometimes its a pain in the arse being old and experienced in life. Should know results by end of week. " Usually carriers will know and have been for genetic counselling.i have a genetic disorder and it is a well planned pathway.It's possible they didnt consider it real untill the text came though.We all believe our babies are perfect. | |||
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"I feel sure that if a midwife, or any other medic for that matter, uses SMS as a means of communication with a patient; that medic will have the patient's explicit permission to use that method. The problem with texting is that it's not a guaranteed or immediate sender to recipient technology - which is why it can't (or at least ought not to) be used for emergency building evacuation etc." A new young mum says sms me with frightening news - yes Im sure the midwife had explicit instructions to do that. The point of my post is the content of the message not the receiving of it. At a time when this young mum can only hear cystic fibrosis on top of all of the million and one other things she is sensitive to after giving birth. A little tact from the professionals is all I was advocating. | |||
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"I feel sure that if a midwife, or any other medic for that matter, uses SMS as a means of communication with a patient; that medic will have the patient's explicit permission to use that method. The problem with texting is that it's not a guaranteed or immediate sender to recipient technology - which is why it can't (or at least ought not to) be used for emergency building evacuation etc. A new young mum says sms me with frightening news - yes Im sure the midwife had explicit instructions to do that. The point of my post is the content of the message not the receiving of it. At a time when this young mum can only hear cystic fibrosis on top of all of the million and one other things she is sensitive to after giving birth. A little tact from the professionals is all I was advocating." No, the question that would have been asked would have been 'if we need to contact you quickly can we .........' and SMS would have been one of the methods. There's always a tension between sensitivity and urgency. | |||
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"I feel sure that if a midwife, or any other medic for that matter, uses SMS as a means of communication with a patient; that medic will have the patient's explicit permission to use that method. The problem with texting is that it's not a guaranteed or immediate sender to recipient technology - which is why it can't (or at least ought not to) be used for emergency building evacuation etc. A new young mum says sms me with frightening news - yes Im sure the midwife had explicit instructions to do that. The point of my post is the content of the message not the receiving of it. At a time when this young mum can only hear cystic fibrosis on top of all of the million and one other things she is sensitive to after giving birth. A little tact from the professionals is all I was advocating. No, the question that would have been asked would have been 'if we need to contact you quickly can we .........' and SMS would have been one of the methods. There's always a tension between sensitivity and urgency. " I can only see your point to a certain extent. There shouldn't be a lack of sensitivity due to urgency, in my opinion. She had the time to sms her.... the content should not have been as explicit and so alarming at that stage. It could have conveyed the message without the panic it instilled. I wish you had seen the look on this young mothers face as she tried to phone the midwife back to get more facts..... sensitive news should be delivered verbally and not by an sms message which may have been picked up much later in the day when the midwife service was closed perhaps? I don't want health care to deteriorate to leaving sms messages... does anyone else? My instinct was to ring the midwife and say what a chump I felt she was. Cos she was. | |||
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"I feel sure that if a midwife, or any other medic for that matter, uses SMS as a means of communication with a patient; that medic will have the patient's explicit permission to use that method. The problem with texting is that it's not a guaranteed or immediate sender to recipient technology - which is why it can't (or at least ought not to) be used for emergency building evacuation etc. A new young mum says sms me with frightening news - yes Im sure the midwife had explicit instructions to do that. The point of my post is the content of the message not the receiving of it. At a time when this young mum can only hear cystic fibrosis on top of all of the million and one other things she is sensitive to after giving birth. A little tact from the professionals is all I was advocating. No, the question that would have been asked would have been 'if we need to contact you quickly can we .........' and SMS would have been one of the methods. There's always a tension between sensitivity and urgency. " Sorry but thats still not right. No one would surely expect what could be bad news or potentially bad news in a text, nor should any nurse think that is acceptable. What happened to their bed side manner FFS. | |||
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"I have regular blood test for anaemia. My surgery sends me a letter to come in for the results. They won't even give me the results over the phone, and the result is always the same: still anaemic keep taking the iron! " It must depend on area... as I am also quite seriously anemic.. they only actually ring me if its worse than before.. I think that while it was perhaps shocking, that its the system, not the midwife... they are so short staffed.. and I think most feel they can not give new and expecting mums the time they need.. I looked at training to be a midwife..and was actually detered by a midwife as she said simply its no longer the job she signed up for.. Katie. x | |||
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"Just after my C section my midwife who was with me throughout came into the room and announced my mother was outside but couldnt come in because your only allowed 2 people on delivery suite (my grandma and grandad were there) I was so thrilled because my mum lives 5 hour drive from me and i said to my grandma that although i loved her being there for my daughters birth it should have been my mum with me really... my grandparents said they would leave so my mum came in and see me... midwife vanishes.. then returns and says 'oh your not the Kimberly who just had a still birth are you? How fucking stupid could she be, she helped deliver my daughter, but the worry i had over the next few nights i could hardly sleep " Horrific!!! and one poster put off a career in midwifery by a jaded midwife - tactlesness in this profession seems a tad high!! | |||
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"Horrific!!! and one poster put off a career in midwifery by a jaded midwife - tactlesness in this profession seems a tad high!!" I think its a bit harsh to judge all midwives on the basis of two or three incidents. | |||
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"............I looked at training to be a midwife..and was actually detered by a midwife as she said simply its no longer the job she signed up for.. Katie. x" I'm sorry if something put you off your chosen career, particularly this one. A cousin runs a midwife led unit in a smallish north of England town and has done for many years. It's impossible to walk down the street with her without being stopped time after time by grateful mums (and dads). Many of the kids she's delivered over the years are now mums themselves. It's probably not the job she signed up for all those years ago but she says it's still the best job in the world. | |||
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"My doctor told me over the phone that I'd probably had a miscarriage and to get myself to hospital. To have it confirmed and get rid of any residue." Poor you xxx But you had the signs I'm assuming and he was giving sound medical advice - we can all take it face to face, so to speak. Texts with medical test results and/or problems - no thank you. | |||
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"I got left a voicemail on my day off telling me a client who i had been looking after in his home for about 3 months murdered his wife and their cat 5 years before ... they forgot to tell me " Bet you stopped taking your cat with you on jobs after that! | |||
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"I didn't know I was pregnant. I'd put it down to jet lag lol" Then my mind is boggling... Iv'e had jet lag and I've had a miscarriage the difference in symptoms well to be honest... vastly different!! Typical you!! xxxxx | |||
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"I got left a voicemail on my day off telling me a client who i had been looking after in his home for about 3 months murdered his wife and their cat 5 years before ... they forgot to tell me Bet you stopped taking your cat with you on jobs after that! " lol it was a well publicised cased round here Jane.. the man in question is dead now though. was just a big shock when i then added 2 and 2 together. | |||
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"To my knowledge the medical profession are supposed to only give out such details speaking to the person not on an answer machine or text. They wont even leave anything on my answer machine and they know i live alone. I would check up on this one" What do you mean check up on this one? I told it as it unfolded during my visit - the baby has still had to have a retest, which makes me thankful the system of testing works. I was making a post about a tactless professional error of judgement and how others felt about it and perhaps have anecdotes of similar experiences - and yes other errors have happened - a lot it seems. I am not in a position to follow up on anything officially - simply not my place to do so, as I have already mentioned. | |||
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"To my knowledge the medical profession are supposed to only give out such details speaking to the person not on an answer machine or text. They wont even leave anything on my answer machine and they know i live alone. I would check up on this one" That may location specific. The STI clinic in Glasgow has my permission to text or leave voicemail and they've done so in the past. | |||
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"To my knowledge the medical profession are supposed to only give out such details speaking to the person not on an answer machine or text. They wont even leave anything on my answer machine and they know i live alone. I would check up on this one That may location specific. The STI clinic in Glasgow has my permission to text or leave voicemail and they've done so in the past." So you're cool to receive a text with the news of perhaps an HIV test coming back positive and the chances you get it on a Friday evening when the GP surgery is closed till Monday. You must have some nerves of steel there. | |||
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"To my knowledge the medical profession are supposed to only give out such details speaking to the person not on an answer machine or text. They wont even leave anything on my answer machine and they know i live alone. I would check up on this one That may location specific. The STI clinic in Glasgow has my permission to text or leave voicemail and they've done so in the past. So you're cool to receive a text with the news of perhaps an HIV test coming back positive and the chances you get it on a Friday evening when the GP surgery is closed till Monday. You must have some nerves of steel there." I don't know about nerves of steel but I'm certainly not the kind of person who gets into a flap about anything. On the matter of finding out you're HIV+ on a Friday and your GP being shut till Monday - so what? There's not a lot of difference saving 72 hours is going to make to the diagnosis, prognosis or treatment. | |||
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"To my knowledge the medical profession are supposed to only give out such details speaking to the person not on an answer machine or text. They wont even leave anything on my answer machine and they know i live alone. I would check up on this one That may location specific. The STI clinic in Glasgow has my permission to text or leave voicemail and they've done so in the past. So you're cool to receive a text with the news of perhaps an HIV test coming back positive and the chances you get it on a Friday evening when the GP surgery is closed till Monday. You must have some nerves of steel there. I don't know about nerves of steel but I'm certainly not the kind of person who gets into a flap about anything. On the matter of finding out you're HIV+ on a Friday and your GP being shut till Monday - so what? There's not a lot of difference saving 72 hours is going to make to the diagnosis, prognosis or treatment." Emotional support. But you apparently don't need it so it works for you. | |||
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"Blood tests open up a can of worms If you knew you had a 50/50 chance of passing on a horrific condition to your baby, what would you do? Thats the choice I had to make and it's worked out that I made the correct decision to not have children. Kills me that I was never a Mum, but in the circumstances was the right choice I hope you friends baby is ok xx" Absolutely thriving which is the main thing. | |||
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"Blood tests open up a can of worms If you knew you had a 50/50 chance of passing on a horrific condition to your baby, what would you do? Thats the choice I had to make and it's worked out that I made the correct decision to not have children. Kills me that I was never a Mum, but in the circumstances was the right choice I hope you friends baby is ok xx Absolutely thriving which is the main thing." Thats great | |||
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"To my knowledge the medical profession are supposed to only give out such details speaking to the person not on an answer machine or text. They wont even leave anything on my answer machine and they know i live alone. I would check up on this one What do you mean check up on this one? I told it as it unfolded during my visit - the baby has still had to have a retest, which makes me thankful the system of testing works. I was making a post about a tactless professional error of judgement and how others felt about it and perhaps have anecdotes of similar experiences - and yes other errors have happened - a lot it seems. I am not in a position to follow up on anything officially - simply not my place to do so, as I have already mentioned." Check up on whether they are supposed to leave messages like that via text messages, not check up on the tests | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/04/11 21:19:33]" Well thats fine then, maybe i should of said they check up on it. But its obviously been resolved | |||
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