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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Who do you send the card to? I asked my mum, she didn't know

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Speak to the school.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was surprised that non of my daughters class came out with Fathers Day cards too..

Quite sad if its a policy, children adore their parents (most of the time)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"

My kids dad isn't can't speak for anybody else

Seems a little odd though of course not all kids will have a dad but not all kids will have a mum either so it's just as insensitive for those kids as the ones with no dad

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.

This is from Wikipedia:

"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."

It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.

Later people started to also honour their own mothers.

Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.

Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?

Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sobbed one year at my boys school, they used to have a Mother's Day service at the church for the kids and mums, one little boy stood up and said 'my mummy is in heaven' after that and lots of parents crying later, they never had one again and never did anything again for mums, which I agree with as it's clear by that statement that not every child still had a mother for various reasons

G x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.

This is from Wikipedia:

"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."

It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.

Later people started to also honour their own mothers.

Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.

Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?

Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. "

Well you learn something new every day. Thanks.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.

This is from Wikipedia:

"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."

It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.

Later people started to also honour their own mothers.

Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.

Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?

Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools.

Well you learn something new every day. Thanks."

You're welcome. Unfortunately, I am now old enough to remember it being referred to as mothering sunday.

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"

my youngests primary school did mothers and fathers day lunch this year. i nwent along for the mum bit and my eldest son went along for her fathers day lunch..my kids though, do me a card on fathers day and my dad.. my youngest and i have had the talk that all families are different and be thankful for who you have around you, now..things change, but doesnt mean to say you arent loved, just because they cant find a way to spend time physically with you, doesnt mean you arent thought about or part of them always

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.

This is from Wikipedia:

"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."

It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.

Later people started to also honour their own mothers.

Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.

Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?

Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. "

Exactly...Father's Day is a recent, meaningless, commercial invention!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I sobbed one year at my boys school, they used to have a Mother's Day service at the church for the kids and mums, one little boy stood up and said 'my mummy is in heaven' after that and lots of parents crying later, they never had one again and never did anything again for mums, which I agree with as it's clear by that statement that not every child still had a mother for various reasons

G x"

Life sucks!

But I think it unfair everyone should suffer because of one. Four of us went off on maternity leave. My son died so the others were banned from coming in with their babies. I felt awful for them and annoyed with my boss who took that decision on my behalf when I found out, but they didn't bring their babies in as they felt uncomfortable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"

My daughter's Saturday club made fathers day cards today, her father is dead, she made a "Happy Family Day" card. I thought it was a jolly good idea, it would work for mothers day as some kids don't have a mother XXX

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

As I pointed out earlier, mothers day was meant as a religious holiday for people returning to their 'mother ' church.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Clintons and Asda will be full of cards/socks/worlds best dad mugs and other assorted tat if it's that important to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"

That's quite sad to hear they still do this.

When my kids were at primary they used to make me cards on Mother's Day.

I went to a Mother's Day service at the village church and all the mums went up to be given a little bunch of flowers. They all nudged me and got me to go up too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got two cards from my boys from school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I sobbed one year at my boys school, they used to have a Mother's Day service at the church for the kids and mums, one little boy stood up and said 'my mummy is in heaven' after that and lots of parents crying later, they never had one again and never did anything again for mums, which I agree with as it's clear by that statement that not every child still had a mother for various reasons

G x

Life sucks!

But I think it unfair everyone should suffer because of one. Four of us went off on maternity leave. My son died so the others were banned from coming in with their babies. I felt awful for them and annoyed with my boss who took that decision on my behalf when I found out, but they didn't bring their babies in as they felt uncomfortable.

"

A close friend of mine lost her husband recently. She has four school age kids. I think not making a card on Mothers/Father's Day isn't suffering. Losing a parent when you're only a kid is suffering.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yeah that goes without saying, it must be an awful thing for a child to go through. My point is that mothers and fathers should be treated equally that's all, one isn't more important than the other. Now that the religious origin to Mother's Day has been hi-lighted it makes more sense as my kids go to a catholic school.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.

This is from Wikipedia:

"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."

It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.

Later people started to also honour their own mothers.

Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.

Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?

Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. "

I had no idea of the origin, I assumed it was another Hallmark holiday.

Thanks

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

My two year old stepson proudly presented me with his card he had made at playschool..I was really moved

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain"

What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.

That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't really see my two beautiful kids that much due to what I do, but the ex wife is fantastic and let's me know how they are whenever she can get hold of me.

Came home on leave this weekend picked my kids up and plan to spend the hole weekend making them laugh & smile.

It's always moving to get cards and gifts for farthers day but to be honest it's me that feels honoured to have them in my life

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By *appyguy17Man
over a year ago

walthamstow


"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain

What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.

That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.

"

I wish you could explain that to my kids......it seems to pass them by.......a pint would do !

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain

What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.

That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.

"

Next it'll be grandparent's day being a big thing.

After that, Aunt's day, followed by Uncle's day.

Eventually, every other day will be a Hallmark day and people will go into debt to keep up with paying for them.

Or is that some dystopian nightmare I had?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they don't do mothers day or fathers day at my kids schools.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain

What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.

That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.

Next it'll be grandparent's day being a big thing.

After that, Aunt's day, followed by Uncle's day.

Eventually, every other day will be a Hallmark day and people will go into debt to keep up with paying for them.

Or is that some dystopian nightmare I had?"

I think Grandparent's Day is September. I remember seeing cards last year.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain

What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.

That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.

Next it'll be grandparent's day being a big thing.

After that, Aunt's day, followed by Uncle's day.

Eventually, every other day will be a Hallmark day and people will go into debt to keep up with paying for them.

Or is that some dystopian nightmare I had?

I think Grandparent's Day is September. I remember seeing cards last year.

"

Yep; they have started "grandparents' day" now.

Purely as a con by the card makers and purveyors of useless rubbish presents to make money.

It's rather daft, since grandparents are, by definition, already mothers and fathers, so are covered by the Mothers and Father's Days.

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By *iforfun999Man
over a year ago

Haverfordwest

Surely this is sexual discrimination? Take them to court.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

I was always pissed off that my children were involved in 'celebrating' such false, profit making days and now my grandchildren have the same with Valentine's Day.

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline


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Who do you send the card to? I asked my mum, she didn't know "

Just address it to the royal navy

Sorry that was a cheap shot but couldn't resist lol

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Yeah that goes without saying, it must be an awful thing for a child to go through. My point is that mothers and fathers should be treated equally that's all, one isn't more important than the other. Now that the religious origin to Mother's Day has been hi-lighted it makes more sense as my kids go to a catholic school. "

It has no religious origin. It was a day off for female servants to go and see their mothers.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Yeah that goes without saying, it must be an awful thing for a child to go through. My point is that mothers and fathers should be treated equally that's all, one isn't more important than the other. Now that the religious origin to Mother's Day has been hi-lighted it makes more sense as my kids go to a catholic school.

It has no religious origin. It was a day off for female servants to go and see their mothers. "

Actually, mothers day does have a religious origin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"

See what happened when a university tried to host an international mens day along with the international women's day...

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Mother's Day celebrations date back as far as the ancient Greeks where they would celebrate Rhea, the Mother of the Gods and Goddesses, every spring with festivals of worship. The Romans also celebrated a mother Goddess, Cybele, every March as far back as 250BC.

Mothering Sunday has been celebrated on the fourth Sunday in Lent, in the UK and Ireland, since the 16th century. The date varies in other parts of the world. Many countries follow the US and celebrate Mother's Day on the second Sunday in May, whilst other countries enjoy the day on March 8th which is International Women's Day.

HISTORY OF MOTHERING SUNDAY

Like many traditions and festivities, Mothering Sunday began with a religious purpose. Held on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter Sunday, it was a originally a day to honour and give thanks to the Virgin Mary, also known as Mother Mary. Such celebrations required people to visit their 'mother' church - the main church or cathedral in a family's area. The spread of Christianity throughout Europe in the 16th century increased the celebrations and firmly put Mothering Sunday on the calendar. It was believed to be essential for people to return to their home 'mother' church to make it a true family honoured occasion. The gatherings reunited families and gave children who worked as domestic servants, or as apprentices away from home (from as early as ten years old), the opportunity to have the day off to join their family and see their mother.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?

See what happened when a university tried to host an international mens day along with the international women's day... "

I've tried to celebrate International Men's Day here. No one wants to.

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