FabSwingers.com forum: Roy Hodgson football genius

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Huge pressure, he gambled, he won. Very pleased for him.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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To be fair, he had to do something. As a striker sometimes you can play all day and not score no matter how good you are. It's just a good job that he made the changes at half time rather than waiting til the last 20 or so mins

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would agree were it not for the fact that he started with Sterling ....

I just don't understand why we didn't start the first game with Vardy ....

Anyway , alls well that ends well .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Taking the 2 players off, and replacing them the 2 players every football fan wanted onn doesn't make him a genius........I said at half time get Kane and Sterling off and Sturridge and Vardy on......I should be england manager!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should never have started Sterling or Kane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh how fickle football fans are

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I would say playing a winger (Sterling) as a striker was probably the exact opposite of genius.

To be fair he saw his folly and changed it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm amazed none of you got the job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Small margins, that goal in the last couple of minutes could be the difference between Roy having a £4m a year job or being unemployed.

For us to have 4 points after two games is probably at worst a fair reflection of our performances against the sides we've played. Should win the group from here which means we meet a team in second round that came 3rd in their group so should be into the quarter finals now for sure. Doubt we will make the semis though

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Taking the 2 players off, and replacing them the 2 players every football fan wanted onn doesn't make him a genius........I said at half time get Kane and Sterling off and Sturridge and Vardy on......I should be england manager!!!"

Along with everyone in the world except for Roy Hodgson it seems.

Man finally does the obvious and is proclaimed genius!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woy is a lucky man to be "coaching.." this level of squad players which he has at his disposal imo..how can Rashford, Alli,Sterling,Dier etc be inspired by a 70 year old guy on the touch line? , his level if coaching is Fulham etc, not the national team

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leave Roy alone it could be a lot worse , imagine if Mikki Maraschino was in charge

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Woy is a lucky man to be "coaching.." this level of squad players which he has at his disposal imo..how can Rashford, Alli,Sterling,Dier etc be inspired by a 70 year old guy on the touch line? , his level if coaching is Fulham etc, not the national team "

Because he's not Swedish or Italian

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

He seems to have the squad unified, playing well and showing a lot of spirit, easy to criticise when things go badly but for now let's get behind him

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

He seems to have the squad unified, playing well and showing a lot of spirit, easy to criticise when things go badly but for now let's get behind him

I'd love to but you just get the feeling he's throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He seems to have the squad unified, playing well and showing a lot of spirit, easy to criticise when things go badly but for now let's get behind him

I'd love to but you just get the feeling he's throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks"
and what does Ray Lewington do?

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

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we beat a ok Welsh team, here we go again

, we will win it now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stirling has been terible in the 2 games england have played he should be on the plane back home. i've no idea how he managed to get in the team in the first place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not to piss on anyone's fire

But they only beat Wales. Calm the fuck down

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"stirling has been terible in the 2 games england have played he should be on the plane back home. i've no idea how he managed to get in the team in the first place

Because, Hodgdon is stupidly loyal and seems to overlook whether a player is in form, or not.

On this basis alone, Townsend should be in the squad instead of him.

Hodgson's a numpty and hasn't got a clue.

He got lucky today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"stirling has been terible in the 2 games england have played he should be on the plane back home. i've no idea how he managed to get in the team in the first place

Because, Hodgdon is stupidly loyal and seems to overlook whether a player is in form, or not.

On this basis alone, Townsend should be in the squad instead of him.

Hodgson's a numpty and hasn't got a clue.

He got lucky today. "

I agree re Townsend, I appreciate loyalty but still I don't understand why we don't pick in form players rather than relying on old faithfuls.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shows the naivety of the guy, instead of being proactive and unleashing Vardy and Sturridge on Wales from the start. He goes with type. When we come up against the bigger teams, no disrespect to the Welsh, he is going to come undone, lets face it neither Wales or Russia were an attacking threat.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"Leave Roy alone it could be a lot worse , imagine if Mikki Maraschino was in charge

Just think how good they'd look though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Leave Roy alone it could be a lot worse , imagine if Mikki Maraschino was in charge

Just think how good they'd look though "
Yeah good point our football hooligans wouldn't look half as frightening wearing Hot Pink

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"stirling has been terible in the 2 games england have played he should be on the plane back home. i've no idea how he managed to get in the team in the first place

Because, Hodgdon is stupidly loyal and seems to overlook whether a player is in form, or not.

On this basis alone, Townsend should be in the squad instead of him.

Hodgson's a numpty and hasn't got a clue.

He got lucky today.

I agree re Townsend, I appreciate loyalty but still I don't understand why we don't pick in form players rather than relying on old faithfuls. "

And to think he's payed millions to make these decisions.

He absolutely should be picking players who are on form and full of confidence, i.e. Vardy, Drinkwater, Townsend... and not someone like Sterling who's had a poor season and is low on confidence.

Hodgson's mentality is fundamentally flawed, anyway. He's a pragmatist and worries more about the opposition rather than concentrating on playing to our strengths. He sets the team up not to lose, rather than to try to win the game.

It's proven time and time again that sticking with the same old players doesn't work. Remember the obsession with trying to get Lampard & Gerrard to play together, and constantly playing players out of position to accommodate and shoehorn others in. It never worked.

We never learn.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"stirling has been terible in the 2 games england have played he should be on the plane back home. i've no idea how he managed to get in the team in the first place

This. Raheem Sterling is rubbish, should be on the subs bench for the rest of the tournament now. Rashford played better in 20 minutes than Sterling did the whole of the Russia game and the whole first half against Wales.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sterling is that bad I have just loaned him out to Port Vale on ps4 2016

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Sterling is that bad I have just loaned him out to Port Vale on ps4 2016

I heard he is for sale for a going rate of 1p on fantasy football league now.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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Sterling has NO END PRODUCT. Never has done and this part of his game hasn't changed or improved since he first came on the scene. Proves he's not putting the hours of practice in, to improve this part of his game.

The hunger just isn't there anymore for these modern day footballers. He's earning over 100K a week, so he's probably not that bothered about improving as a player.

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By *ong legs n LingeireWoman
over a year ago

it up to me neck. :-)

"Huge pressure, he gambled, he won. Very pleased for him."

Genius? Seriously? Nah!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

that is all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those that say he should have played X, Y or Z, how do we know how well or fit they are after a long hard season.

What is apparent to me is Roy is a good manager of the resources he has and that no doubt we will get as far as possible under his stewardship.

I personally think he has done a fantastic job. He obviously is a football man through and through.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not to piss on anyone's fire

But they only beat Wales. Calm the fuck down"

In that game Wales = Bale + 9 defenders & a goalkeeper.

England had 70% possession and Wales only managed 2 shots on goal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Interesting to read some of the comments, Roy has picked the youngest squad in the tournament, the side has played pretty well in 2 games, he has made changes at the right time and has appeared to be willing to take risks. Will be interesting to see if he sticks with Hart in goal who has been at fault for both goals conceded, but judging from how the squad seems to be enjoying themselves, with competition for places in all areas and most importantly getting results I would say that so far he is doing ok. Fair to say the opposition hasn't been up to much and there is a long way to go, but so far I have been impressed.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Not wanting to sound down on Roy but Slutsky and Coleman aren't exactly tactical geniuses, if we come up against del Bosque/Conte/Low I think his (not the squads) shortcomings will be shown up

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Not wanting to sound down on Roy but Slutsky and Coleman aren't exactly tactical geniuses, if we come up against del Bosque/Conte/Low I think his (not the squads) shortcomings will be shown up"

He did beat Germany in the build up to the tournament. I know it was only a friendly but England played very well that day.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"Interesting to read some of the comments, Roy has picked the youngest squad in the tournament, the side has played pretty well in 2 games, he has made changes at the right time and has appeared to be willing to take risks. Will be interesting to see if he sticks with Hart in goal who has been at fault for both goals conceded, but judging from how the squad seems to be enjoying themselves, with competition for places in all areas and most importantly getting results I would say that so far he is doing ok. Fair to say the opposition hasn't been up to much and there is a long way to go, but so far I have been impressed."

In the first game he brings on Milner to try and shut up shop. That cost us the win. He didn't play to our strengths and we paid the price. What he should have done is, bring on an offensive player and aimed to finish them off with a second goal, whilst we were ahead. We're not strong enough defensively to be trying to hold onto a one goal lead.

In the Wales game his hand was forced. He had no choice but to put Sturridge & Vardy on, after going a goal behind. We should be more annoyed that he started the same team again against Wales. He just doesn't learn from his mistakes.

He's had two years to prepare for these games and still doesn't know/put out his best team.

He's reactive, rather than proactive. The man is clueless.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Not wanting to sound down on Roy but Slutsky and Coleman aren't exactly tactical geniuses, if we come up against del Bosque/Conte/Low I think his (not the squads) shortcomings will be shown up

He did beat Germany in the build up to the tournament. I know it was only a friendly but England played very well that day."

Who was it that scored the winning goal against Germany?

It was Vardy, who he left on the bench against Russia and only brought him on against Wales because we were 1-0 down. Vardy should be in the starting line up. It should be obvious to Roy but it appears it's not.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Not wanting to sound down on Roy but Slutsky and Coleman aren't exactly tactical geniuses, if we come up against del Bosque/Conte/Low I think his (not the squads) shortcomings will be shown up

He did beat Germany in the build up to the tournament. I know it was only a friendly but England played very well that day.

Who was it that scored the winning goal against Germany?

Fully agree

I still can't understand why he took an extra striker then leaves three on the bench while playing an out of form winger as a striker.

Hodgson seems to prefer square pegs in a round holes, like using your main striker to take corners.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't see why everyone's slating him right after we've won a game. This is the best team we've had in years. Great mix of youth and experience. The energy is great for once.

Some things never change I guess.

Tut tut.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't see why everyone's slating him right after we've won a game. This is the best team we've had in years. Great mix of youth and experience. The energy is great for once.

Some things never change I guess.

Tut tut."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Huge pressure, he gambled, he won. Very pleased for him."

He wasn't much of a genius in first game was he. Disrupted midfield and decided best way to prevent an equaliser at 1-0 is to defend defend defend.....

The real best way to prevent an equaliser when you are so on top...is to score at least one more....!

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"Not wanting to sound down on Roy but Slutsky and Coleman aren't exactly tactical geniuses, if we come up against del Bosque/Conte/Low I think his (not the squads) shortcomings will be shown up

He did beat Germany in the build up to the tournament. I know it was only a friendly but England played very well that day.

Who was it that scored the winning goal against Germany?

Exactly, it's a real concern.

Wales are a very average team, albeit, with great team camaraderie, but, with just one great player. They were there for the taking yesterday.

To not start the game with two strikers up front against them, is pretty much unforgivable.

If it had been England taking the 1-0 lead, instead of Wales... he'd have been bringing on Milner in the 78th minute, as per...

He obviously realised the error of his ways by putting Rooney on corner duties, instead of Kane, so, perhaps all is not lost?

On a separate note, good as Kane is, he's shattered, and needs taking out of the team, at the moment (along with Sterling, who's been really, really poor). Give him a break/rest. If, we progress he can come back in, later in the tournament.

We need to start Vardy & Sturridge up front against Slovakia on Monday.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"Huge pressure, he gambled, he won. Very pleased for him.

He wasn't much of a genius in first game was he. Disrupted midfield and decided best way to prevent an equaliser at 1-0 is to defend defend defend.....

The real best way to prevent an equaliser when you are so on top...is to score at least one more....!"

Absolutely. (applauds)

It's almost as if trying to get a second goal and go 2-0 up, isn't even in Hodgson's thinking

Madness.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Massive mistake from Roy tonight. Should have started the same team that finished against Wales. What was Roy thinking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Massive mistake from Roy tonight. Should have started the same team that finished against Wales. What was Roy thinking?

If hes a tactical genius...then im Einstein

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Massive mistake from Roy tonight. Should have started the same team that finished against Wales. What was Roy thinking?

Allegedly, he wanted to rest some players.

It didn't work out.

I don't think the "genius" tag works any more.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

In defense of Roy those Slovakians did play with 18 men behind the ball, the knockout phase where playing for a draw isn't an option with be a fairer representation

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